The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
With the case on, when charging it reaches 40 degrees. But otherwise it's... Ok I guess?
Summer is coming and he's going to be hot, using a Pixel in China.
Dovahpig said:
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
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Thank you!!!
Great, I had to test this. I have the Battery Guru, and I have set the temperature to 30 but it always prompts, even when I am using it for minimal work. Can you share some performance benchmarks, either with Battery Guru or Better Battery Stats? and the source on github?
Great i want to test
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
blackspp said:
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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Data to prove that the efficiency of G2 is poor? Sure, sir.
This shows Tensor G1, and Tensor G2 introduced an additional X1 core (2x X1 cores) and didn't improve the efficiency much apart from being slightly more efficient since it's based on 4nm.
So, long story short, G2 is somewhere between Exynos 2100 and 888 when it comes to efficiency and neither of these two mentioned is really efficient.
Pixel 4's SD855 is more efficient than both Pixel 6 and 7. lol
There is plenty of power measurement data and how the SOC behaves under load, feel free to research.
fenibook said:
The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
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mind posting the correction of values? at what temp it starts to throttle? is something else tweaked as well? im too lazy to look at the code myself lol
Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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No lag, stuttering or freezing. No issues with charging. Temperature stays lower than normally, for example while using chrome or other browser temperature used to spike up to 60-65° within few minutes but now it's down to 50-55°. I didn't notice any change in battery life.
innit said:
temperature used to spike up to 60-65
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How did you measure?
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Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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I'm also curious to know what performance gains or battery efficiencies Pixel phones have with their 'clean' software.
5 second delay in the camera app when changing from photo to video or changing from back camera to front...
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Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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@fenibook , can you add any conditions to the module so it's inactive when the phone is charging either reorh cable or wirelessly?
For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
Chrisnik said:
Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
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AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
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AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
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The brightness bar from quick panel works OK or gets stuck when you slide it?!
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So I finally decided to root my G Flex 2. I've been talking about disabling cores for a while. Thought it may help the thermal throttling issues. Once I rooted the device I downloaded "Multicore CPU" and started disabling cores in a couple different combos. I've finally settled on disabling cores 4 and 7. Since I disabled the two cores heat has not been an issue and cores 5 and 6 are running at 2ghz. Reduced lag, and benchmarks have shot up some. Personally enjoying the lagless environment. Figured I'd post my experience with this. I'm hoping overall battery life will be better as well. Won't know for a day or two though. Oh and it stays cool while charging and in use. It used to get really hot before.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
So here are results of disabling cores and thermal throttling or lack there of now.
I also want to note that my benchmark scores were lower than the note 4 after some updates until now
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So I finally decided to root my G Flex 2. I've been talking about disabling cores for a while. Thought it may help the thermal throttling issues. Once I rooted the device I downloaded "Multicore CPU" and started disabling cores in a couple different combos. I've finally settled on disabling cores 4 and 7. Since I disabled the two cores heat has not been an issue and cores 5 and 6 are running at 2ghz. Reduced lag, and benchmarks have shot up some. Personally enjoying the lagless environment. Figured I'd post my experience with this. I'm hoping overall battery life will be better as well. Won't know for a day or two though. Oh and it stays cool while charging and in use. It used to get really hot before.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
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My core 4 and 7 were already disabled but still very laggy... And it heats up really bad...
When do you get this overheating issues? My flex just gets warm using Chrome so i use the lg Browser now. And whats your Firmware? Still stuck in c with all Cores enabled
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When do you get this overheating issues? My flex just gets warm using Chrome so i use the lg Browser now. And whats your Firmware? Still stuck in c with all Cores enabled
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My software is 10e. It heats up during YouTube, Chrome and is warmer in general then my previous phones. And its still heavy laggy...
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My core 4 and 7 were already disabled but still very laggy... And it heats up really bad...
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4 and 7 are not active unless 5 and 6 are under heavy load I believe. I've just made it so they never turn on.
I'm also using software ls996zv5
It's the sprint model
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My software is 10e. It heats up during YouTube, Chrome and is warmer in general then my previous phones. And its still heavy laggy...
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Ok on YouTube mine gets a bit warm but not as hot as in Chrome (on normal sites, nothing fancy). Watched twitch in Full hd for an Hour yesterday without any heat...seems like some Apps are better optimised for the sd810 than others
Are we getting a sd808 by disabling 2 Cores?
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Ok on YouTube mine gets a bit warm but not as hot as in Chrome (on normal sites, nothing fancy). Watched twitch in Full hd for an Hour yesterday without any heat...seems like some Apps are better optimised for the sd810 than others
Are we getting a sd808 by disabling 2 Cores?
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It looks like SD810 is a peace of crap. The Flex 2 compared to my Oneplus One is like an Opel / Vauxhall Astra compared to an BMW X6.. Very disappointed..
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So here are results of disabling cores and thermal throttling or lack there of now.
I also want to note that my benchmark scores were lower than the note 4 after some updates until now
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Ok getting a lil bit off-topic here ...i am Happy with the Phone so far, way faster than my old razr i Think Updates will make this Baby Fly (even more)
So Keep us updated with your experiences as hexacore user i am very interested in the Battery life and Real Life Performance !
808 with better GPU lol
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It looks like SD810 is a peace of crap. The Flex 2 compared to my Oneplus One is like an Opel / Vauxhall Astra compared to an BMW X6.. Very disappointed..
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I am also coming from oneplus, I must say you are sadly right. Newer is not necessary better in this case.
I hope with some optimalization this can be a Ferrari.
I was already let down by LG a few years before, let's hope it is not the case now.
Ronee33 said:
I am also coming from oneplus, I must say you are sadly right. Newer is not necessary better in this case.
I hope with some optimalization this can be a Ferrari.
I was already let down by LG a few years before, let's hope it is not the case now.
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Hope that with android 5.1 everything will change for better.. :fingers-crossed:
I have the AT&T version of this phone and for me cores 4,5,6 and 7 are always on except when the cpu goes above 36C then cores 4 and 7 automatically get disabled. I'm also not experiencing any lag and it's actually very smooth and fast. It also doesn't get very hot unless I run Antutu benchmark like three times in a row. What kind of CPU temperatures are you guys seeing when your phone gets hot?
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I have the AT&T version of this phone and for me cores 4,5,6 and 7 are always on except when the cpu goes above 36C then cores 4 and 7 automatically get disabled. I'm also not experiencing any lag and it's actually very smooth and fast. It also doesn't get very hot unless I run Antutu benchmark like three times in a row. What kind of CPU temperatures are you guys seeing when your phone gets hot?
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I also have the at&t version. There isn't much lag, but it gets pretty hot. Where do I check CPU temp?
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I also have the at&t version. There isn't much lag, but it gets pretty hot. Where do I check CPU temp?
Sent from my LG-H950 using XDA Free mobile app
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You can download Cpu Temp from the play store or I also see it in kernel apps like Trickster MOD.
My galaxy S4 used to get warmer then this phone when watching Youtube or browsing in Chrome.
probaina said:
You can download Cpu Temp from the play store or I also see it in kernel apps like Trickster MOD.
My galaxy S4 used to get warmer then this phone when watching Youtube or browsing in Chrome.
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Runs at 44C after playing games for a few minutes.
Sent from my LG-H950 using XDA Free mobile app
The highest i've seen is 47C and it does make the phone feel warm but not any warmer than my Galaxy S4 used to get.
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The highest i've seen is 47C and it does make the phone feel warm but not any warmer than my Galaxy S4 used to get.
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My phone is around 40C when playing games or browsing the Web.
With another firmware wersion I was getting temperatures around 48C. That was Killin the battery in minutes.
This is what I deal with when all 4 cores are running
Hi,
Curretnly i'm on the G3 and i dont like it much.
Thinking on 1 of these:
Xiaomi Mi4C
Asus Zenphone 2
Now, I asking that in Mi 4C Thread bc's i thinking that there is some people that might had this.
What do you think?
Thanks!
It comes down to preference really as I dont really like phones bigger than 5" and xiaomi is quite established. Its got the right size, ir blaster and a good SOC which should get good rom support, cm12.1 already available
Where are you based? The Global version of the Zenphone 2 has band 20 which the Mi 4c doesn't have (may be able to be unlocked manually but I'm doubtful). The Zenphone also has expandable storage which the Mi 4c lacks - you may already be used to this and the larger form factor due to currently using the G3. That said, I've heard (but cannot personally verify) that the Zenphone has erratic battery life and performance in addition to being more expensive than the Mi 4c.
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
shabydog said:
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
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Well, my Mi4C had battery drain. Around 3%/hour on idle with WiFi and 4G all off, so when I woke up a third of my battery was already gone. I ended up fixing it by flashing the international ROM but after that, I've been getting 5 hours of SoT which is great. Can't comment on the battery of the Zenfone.
Regarding the battery problem:
Looks like it could different between your's to anyone else.
I read a review in a site in my country and the person who made the review praise the battery life.
Thanks!
My Mi4c has very good battery life. The same like the z1 compact i had. Other phones i had i charged sometimes more than 2 times a day.
The zenfone 2 has worse battery life, build quality and performance. If you don't mind the SD card and 5" screen then the Mi4C is your phone. Zenfone 3 could be very interesting when (should be kinda soonTM) it gets released though!
Thank you all!
Go for the Mi4C.
P.S: A newer model of Mi series also coming soon?
How abt Redmi note 3?
No battery issue with my Mi4C. Left it idle for most part of the day with cellular and Wi-Fi connected the whole time and managed 0.7% / hour idle time. I also have many apps installed (not facebook or any messaging apps though). It's rooted and greenified, running original stable Chinese Miui 7 Rom with some Chinese bloat apps removed. It's also scoring 52K on antutu 6.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
Having owned both phones i can say the Zen2 is a dud. The screen is dim, the speaker is weak, some apps drain crazy battery as they are using an ARM emulator to run on x86. It wobbles on the desk and the battery dies after your lunch break. The camera has low exposure that makes everything look darker than it is. The Mi4c just works like you expect a flagship to do.
leledumbo said:
Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
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I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
k3lcior said:
I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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RIP phone.
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RIP phone.
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Hahaha, worry not, it's been back to normal temp (30-50). The problem only happens if you play resource intensive games while charging.
My last phone Mi4i also reached ~90°C after playing with the thermal engine. The flashlight turned on in the pocket of my pants and burned for half an hour. I just noticed it because my leg got hotter and hotter luckily the phone wasnt damaged through this. Also, i think the CPU can handle these temperatures without being damaged, but i would worry about other phone components such as SD Card, battery or glued components
Sorry, my antutu 6 score for my Mi4c was 685xx, not 52k.
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mmmh i think xiaomi mi4c only for battery
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I can only confirm point 7 but it's not so noticable unless you are banging music at high volume.
No heat issues but then i'm not running Antutu over and over. No touch issues here but some people mentioned it. Laggy UI? First time hearing this lmao. It's butter smooth even on MIUI. I get 3 days of battery life with 10h SoT on average with 120Hz, i dont think it's bad.. plus i'm using navigation (GPS) and camera quite abit, you can probably get more than that easily. Never had any network or random shutdown issues (almost 20 days uptime, since last update of ArrowOS) probably some people with magisk / mods reported it.
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I would agree, although I'm not going so good SoT (but since I'm a light user I still get very good battery life).
Never forget that people report issues, not good experiences. If you look at each indvividual grievance, you'll never buy any phone anyway
"i'm not running Antutu over and over"
It's just one of ways to put your phone under load and immediately see/compare results.
Many smartphone reviewers do this test to see if phone will throttle.
Check this video:
I found video where we can see x3 pro from inside.
On the left is x3 NFC and on the right x3 Pro.
Very interesting decision for x3 pro.
There is copper tape, instead of metallic plate.
Plus, you see that thermal paste is only on memory (3x pro).
If they don't use paste and there is not enough pressure then heat will not be dissipated by pipe.
And here you can see how much they use thermal paste between tape and pipe.
3 small lines on CPU and a bit for memory.
Just look how much more contact surface is on x3 NFC.
Now i understand why x3 pro is so hot.
If your x3 pro is not hot, then you are lucky (there is enough pressure/paste).
If you are not lucky, then idk. It's faulty phone.
1. Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming, especially when on mobile data. I just bought a cheap cooler and everything is fine
2. I had problems on AncientOS only, now on Crdroid i dont have it
3. Games dont lag, ofc u cant play Genshin Impact maxed out, but overall the gaming experience is smooth. On Crdroid i have no problems with scrolling, but i also use Samsung Browser and Relay for Reddit, Chrome and Reddit app were laggy even on custom roms
4. Battery drain is a problem of MIUI, on custom roms i get 8-10h of screen time from 100-20%, but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
5. & 6. No problems
7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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but i feel like i should get more than 2-3h of gaming
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wait, only 2-3 hours of gaming and battery is empty?
"Yes, the phone gets really hot, but that is only while gaming"
I think we all will agree that it shouldn't be like this. Either Chipset is hotter than they expected and cooling solution used in older models can't handle it. In this case they had to slightly undervolt/downclock. Or they have huge % of faulty phones (cooling problem) and they simply close eyes on it.
But maybe it all goes by the plan. They know that chip will be hot, but it's fast and it's enough to get good sales.
Yes, its around that, but i mostly play CoD mobile and Wild Rift maxed out, so that might play into that.
I also agree that the cooling solution isn't that good to use this phone to the max and no update will ever fix it without a performance drop. Honestly this device would have been better suited with a SD855, the SD860 is too hot for the device, or at least the body of the phone didnt allow for a better cooling solution. But i guess they didnt want to have a 2 years old chip in a new phone, even if overall that would allow the phone to work faster for a longer period of time.
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7. Yes, the back of the phone vibrates while listening at max volume, which is to be expected with how loud the speakers are and i dont see how this is a problem. Did the people who complain about this ever hold a speaker? Even overhead headphones vibrate while listening at high volume.
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It's not normal. It's defect, same as cooling system.
Here you can see comparison with Redmi Note 10 Pro at max volume.
Being honest i really dont mind it, actually i enjoy it, the speakers feel powerful.
I feel many of the bugs described on first post and I find it a real shame what POCCO has done with this phone. Cheap phone? Yes! Powerfull? Yes! and... It works as expected? No!
On the other side, there are more than 10 different ROMs available for this phone and most of them are the same. Same bugs and same problems but with different skin.
I loved this phone but after see how it evolves, i feel like i did a bad investiment. Next time i will go for Realme.
new_member_2021 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy x3 Pro, but at first i want to know if all problems are already fixed.
I read a lot of comments about problems, but most of these comments are 3+ months old, so...
1) under load it gets very hot. Throttling...
Just by running Antutu benchmark few times, you see how score drops over 100K.
2) Touch issues
3) lags in games, Laggy UI, delay when scrolling
4) fast battery drain
5) network Issues, unstable data connection
6) unexpected shutdowns, screen freezes
7) back panel vibration when audio is playing
There are more, but these are most common.
I hope most of these problems come from their "amazing" MiUI, and can be fixed.
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I had some of the these issues when I was on miui and before unlocking BL. Phone gets warm during gaming which is perfectly normal and on par with other phones.
I sold my galaxy note 10+ for poco x3 pro, it was the best decision I made this year. Gaming got better with no throttling on custom rom, more fluid, better battery life, native google ui.
spikywits said:
better battery life
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how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 6-7 hours (14%/h). On poco x3 pro, around 4 hours (23%/h) But can you squeeze 6+ gameplay hours from x3 pro on lower settings?
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I haven't tested that long prolonged gameplays. My comment was against my previous phones - galaxy note 10+ and black shark 2 and it easily lasts for 2 days for my usage. But 4 hrs in 23%/h is still a good life, isn't it? don't get killed yourself playing for so long
new_member_2021 said:
how many hours you can play games, or watch videos?
For example, on Realme 8 you can play pubg 7+ hours. Of course settings will be lower, but can you squeeze 7 gameplay hours from x3 pro (even on lower settings)?
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Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
k3lcior said:
Pointless comparison, Realme 8 SoC is about twice slower. It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf will empty their fuel tanks first. Ofcourse Ferrari will but there is a reason for that. Not to mention 120 vs 60 Hz screen.
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Dude turn off this "protective" mode. I am not comparing, i am asking question.
I understand, you own this phone and it's most amazing thing you ever had.
"It's like comparing if Ferrari or Volkswagen Golf"
Reality is that there are more powerful phones on smaller batteries and they live way longer then poco x3 pro. For example poco F3 with 4520 mAh. Even if x3 pro has 5160 mAh, it's battery is empty at point where F3 has more then 20%. And both phones has 120Hz screens. Only difference is that F3 has amoled display.
k3lcior, i am asking question (it's not comparison): why F3 with smaller battery lives way longer? Is it because of amoled display? Is it because of chip which is hot as hell? or?
if we compare processors:
Snapdragon 870 vs Snapdragon 860: tests and benchmarks
We put Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 against Snapdragon 860 to find out which SoC is better. See performance comparison in benchmarks and games.
nanoreview.net
we see that "Efficiency of battery consumption" is the same, so problem shouldn't be in cpu.
so, amoled display does all magic?
I'm not defensive and no it's not most amazing thing i ever had. And yes you are not comparing, but you are asking to compare no?
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so, amoled display does all magic?
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It does save battery when there are blacks on the screen because they are not 'powered' on AMOLED screens on that large screen it can make large difference. There are also more small details which also can make some difference for example SD card slot, Poco F3 doesn't have one and Poco X3 Pro has one which has to be powered at all times.
Not to mention GSM signal, small signal difference can easily make several % battery life difference which can be easily manipulated hence why these comparisons are idiotic.
And btw. here is less than 40 min. difference in battery life from what i see.
Edit: Also UFS 3.1 in Poco F3 is more power efficient compared to UFS 3.0 in X3 Pro.
Question was, if on poco x3 pro you can squeeze out 6+ hours of pubg gameplay (even on low quality).
Everything else was just additional info.
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad. I am trying to understand if problem is software based, or hardware. If software, it can be fixed, if hardware, then you have powerful phone with bad battery life. If F3 and X3 Pro are both on the same soft, then seems that problem is hardware based (IPS screen).
I saw this test and F3 has 24% of battery when x3 pro dies:
new_member_2021 said:
Why i am asking? Many poco x3 pro owners wrote that battery life is bad.
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You will find people write this for every single phone there is on a planet. I already said what can make battery life difference between the 2 phones and it's not only screen, try reading again.
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try reading again.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
Actually I find your attitude toxic. You make some good points but you listen to nothing!
I could tell you that the phone is great, that your points are somehow valid but not really IRL. I'm afraid of your attack though.
Good luck with the phone.
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dude you are so toxic.. im out.
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Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.
pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat
malikin said:
pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat
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No case and no social Media Apps only WhatsApp...
Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!
Goku1992 said:
Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!
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EXYNOS hot - head
Griffin7296 said:
EXYNOS hot - head
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The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....
Goku1992 said:
The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....
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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere
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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere
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Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!
Goku1992 said:
Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!
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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!
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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!
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Okay mate then its fine. Hope someone can tell me if konabess is working on rooted s22u...
25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.
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Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.
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I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long
Tearm said:
I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long
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Thanks mate snapdragon? Do you have a custom kernel? S22 ultra? Sorry for the questions
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25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.
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Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...
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Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...
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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.
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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.
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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)
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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)
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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.
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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.
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Mate the Ambient temp. The cpu itself is 40-50 then... 25would be nice and cool...
One or more of your apps is using more power than they should. You're going to have to figure out which.
I haven't rooted or debloated. I have social media apps installed and running. I was at the Blue Angels airshow last weekend. Even being on a hot tarmac with no shade it was working fine shooting video and photos with no overheating or stuttering. It was around 31-32C in direct sunlight the whole time.
Ive already factory resetet the phone. There isnt app. Then u are using the amazing snapdragon 8 gen 2 prototyp s23u from Samsung. The 8gen 1 is a hothead. Its confirmed. 31-32°C cpu temp in direct sunlight is impossible. Even the battery is a bit hotter then....
Here an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/rn1ffg
And Millions more if you Google snapdragon 8 gen 1. So please stop now. Only wanted to tame it a bit cause optimzing isnt bad.
Code:
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* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about what this MOD does before flashing it
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, don't point fingers at me if something goes wrong
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Ladies and gentlemen,
A small modification for you with great and HOT results.
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
Keep in mind that SOC will throttle regardless of when it hits its own TjMax values so you don't need to worry about any "meltdown". lol
- Display won't switch to 60Hz anymore and neither will the maximal possible brightness be reduced as it is normally happening with stock throttling thresholds.
So far I'm using this on EvoX ROM but this should work basically on ANY ROM as the throttling is relying on the same file and as far as I managed to observe (amount of ROMs checked out) it's the same on those ROMs.
Pros:
- Throttling thresholds are drastically increased, meaning if you experienced any HIGH FPS drops during playing any "heavy" games, this will prevent that from happening to an extent and time.
- Any apps that rely on high processing power, will have more space and time to work without being affected by thermal throttling
Cons:
- Depending on your usage and what exactly you do on your phone, the device could get uncomfortably warm in your hands, and battery temperature will raise MORE than you got used to it since the SOC won't be throttled that fast as it does on the stock. Keep in mind that high battery temps are not healthy, and they will cause faster degradation. Degradation occurs anyways, the question is only how fast based on the temps the battery is being exposed to. Many OEMs allow such temps, so, Pixel 7 series with this mod isn't anything different compared to them.
- If you're a heavy "gamer" and play some games like Genshin, TOF, COD (at 120fps), etc... (you'll have a smoother experience (less FPS drops) based on slower/weaker throttling) but I recommend always using a Peltier cooler to keep that battery and the device as cool as possible (regardless if this phone or another).
Why did I create this mod?
I personally use an app called MotionCam Pro. It's basically a RAW video recording app that relies on HIGH processing power (it records RAW DNG frames) and it heats up the device pretty fast, well, Pixel 7 Pro hits the throttling threshold really fast and it's causing the recording to drop A LOT of frames to a point that the footage recorded is not "usable".
With this mod, I can now shoot RAW videos for longer periods with almost no dropped frames and under higher ambient temps. Yes, the phone warms up much more, but it does the JOB for me and that's all that matters to me anyway. I don't care if I'll need to replace my battery after 1 year instead of 2 years because I lost maybe 15-20% of the battery capacity (I upgrade my phones almost yearly).
Have fun frying eggs on your phone.
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy
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Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy
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Thanks for sharing this with us
JohnTheFarm3r said:
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
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Is it possible to change threshold around 41 Celsius? 55 Celsius is quite hard temp for me, but 39 is to low. I think best for me will be around 41 ~ 42. Thanks for reply
Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹
Sasaiber said:
Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹
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There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs
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There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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I have the temperature of the battery itself 27-35 in normal use on lte. Samsung s22 ultra Stays at 25 degrees(((
The hot battery issue was back in the Pixel 6 Pro. In summer, at 27 - 45 degrees when using social networks.
Pixel 7 pro is now - 31 degrees battery at 11 degrees room temperature .
I already have a custom kernel - does not help
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.
Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.
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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.
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So it does happen in idle then.
cant wait for pixel 8 pro with tensor G3 zuma manufactured in 3nm process
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Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.
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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.
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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.
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yes dropping frames when using android auto and want to record something is really annoying because phone get 40C while using android auto and you can miss good video while driving
I'm really interested in knowing how you use the MotionCam on Pixel 7 Pro. i tried it and edited the footage with the app itself and it turned out to be super noisy. Any tutorial would be awesome.
Also, do you know if it's possible for Pixel 7 Pro to get DC Dimming?
This is unfortunately not compatible with TD1A.220804.031 - causes phone to hang on G with progress bar
It seems a little counter intuitive, but my phone stays cooler in standby with this mod. I believe it is because it no longer throttles during longer tasks in the background, like photo or DropBox syncs. Of course it also heats up more while gaming, but the performance also doesn't degrade. Thanks for this OP!
@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!
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@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!
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You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.
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You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.
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Confirmed working with March update. Thank you.