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why not overclock the Xoom more?

just curious lol I love to push my devices to the limit!

I'm pretty sure a 50% increase in CPU speed on a dual core processor is more than enough for this guy. Why would you even need to go higher? You'll just end up breaking your device and come here complaining to the devs that it's their fault..
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I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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chrisharmful said:
I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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Exactly. Same here!

i think if it was totally safe motorola would have been the one to do it and brag that they have the fastest tablet in the market with a 1.5 - 2.0 Ghz Processor. if you want you device to last, leave it with the stock speed, this thing is pretty fast as is, and if you do have to overclock i think the max would be what others have said 1.5. there is no other benefit, and i doubt you will notice any difference. other then your battery lasting 2 hours and your web pages loading a second faster (not important), and maybe apps opening a little faster(won't notice) and then your device getting hot as other have said, which can bcome an issue with other things on the the motherboard becoming hot. and in the next few months you'll end up with a Motorola DOOM

Really bad performance

Hey everyone!
Sorry if I do or say something wrong or in a wrong place, as this is my first post here and I really need your help.
I have just received my Nexus 5. I was loving it so far, but I have recently noticed a weird problem - the youtube videos in HD were really choppy. That is when I have decided to get AnTuTu and test my device with it. 23k!? That is barely more than Galaxy Note 2. Something is definitely wrong with my device and I can't seem to find what. Please help!

I don't see a problem here.
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I don't see a problem here.
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Is it supposed to score that low? I may be missing something, but shouldn't it score higher than SGS3?
And what about the jerkiness of the videos on youtube?

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Is it supposed to score that low? I may be missing something, but shouldn't it score higher than SGS3?
And what about the jerkiness of the videos on youtube?
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mine score around 22k, and work awesome

I did 3 runs of Antutu.
Run #1 22k
Run #2 29k
Run #3 26k
Just ran it again after making sure every app was closed, 29k.
Hit your multi task button and swipe close every app then try it.
No idea why its random.

YouTube is buttery smooth here. I don't see how it's normal if it's choppy on one of the fastest CPU. I would try a factory reset.

Most people including me have noticed good performance in everyday usage, but poor results with benchmark such as Antutu.
My investigation involved monitoring soc (cpu) temperature and clock frequencies.
I observed that the standard kernel that comes with Kit Kat has thermal management that aggressively throttles CPU clock frequencies when the temperature exceeds 63°C.
This will cause the clock frequencies to be reduced in an attempt to lower temperatures. With a benchmark like Antutu that causes all four CPU cores to be heavily loaded and run initially at maximum clock rate of 2265 MHz this will lead to clock frequencies dropping as far as 1100 MHz occasionally, with substantial drop in performance.
I have been unable to determine if the Adreno 330 is also subjected to similar thermal throttling.
Custom kernel will provide the way to overcome this for those willing to modify.
The highest Antutu score I've seen on their website is 30000, which is some way below other Snapdragon 800 powered phones, and most scores are below 25000, which can be bettered BT Snapdragon 600
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Thank you for your responses. I am not the only one then.
But I would still like to find out what exactly is wrong with youtube. Every video's choppy, there's a lot of stuttering and frame skipping. Launching videos from Chrome feels better, but not much.

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Hey everyone!
Sorry if I do or say something wrong or in a wrong place, as this is my first post here and I really need your help.
I have just received my Nexus 5. I was loving it so far, but I have recently noticed a weird problem - the youtube videos in HD were really choppy. That is when I have decided to get AnTuTu and test my device with it. 23k!? That is barely more than Galaxy Note 2. Something is definitely wrong with my device and I can't seem to find what. Please help!
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Mine runs everything perfectly smooth, but when I plug in to charge, everything is choppy and laggy. Happens on home screen/app drawer/apps
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Don't forget the recently documented "optimizations" that most manufacturers are building into their devices. Benchmarks are beginning to mean less and less as manufacturers have discovered their use in marketing.

mevensen said:
Don't forget the recently documented "optimizations" that most manufacturers are building into their devices. Benchmarks are beginning to mean less and less as manufacturers have discovered their use in marketing.
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Yeah, I get that.
But mine still performs horribly in videos. I have just done the factory reset - to no avail. Youtube is completely unwatchable. I have tried to plug the charger in (just to rule out some weird power-saving issue) - same problem. Haven't tried to launch a video from the device itself yet though. I have also tried Real Racing 3 just to test the performance, and I guess it's OK. It's not prfect, as I can feel some framerate drops, but it is nowhere near as bad as the Youtube jerkiness.
No idea what's going on. Seems like no one else is having such a problem. Probably gonna have to return the device.

Galaxy s6 overheating?

I just received my GS6 like 2 weeks ago and ive obviously been using it. My question is Is it ok for the right edge of the phone to get somewhat hot and for the CPU to reach 70°C? (Checked using CPU-Z, I know CPUs are supposed to get hot but this hot on a phone?) from using apps such as snapchat or listening to music and chatting or even the camera for a few minutes? Coming from the original Galaxy S, this doesnt seem okay to me.
EDIT: It only reached 70C only once. The other times it got to the 60s.

themegadinesen said:
I just received my GS6 like 2 weeks ago and ive obviously been using it. My question is Is it ok for the right edge of the phone to get somewhat hot and for the CPU to reach 70°C? (Checked using CPU-Z, I know CPUs are supposed to get hot but this hot on a phone?) from using apps such as snapchat or listening to music and chatting or even the camera for a few minutes? Coming from the original Galaxy S, this doesnt seem okay to me.
EDIT: It only reached 70C only once. The other times it got to the 60s.
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That's definitely not good, my max temp has been around 50~ish, if I was use I'd keep a close eye on it and if it continues like that go to the store you bought it and tell there's a fault with your phone.
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warface123 said:
That's definitely not good, my max temp has been around 50~ish, if I was use I'd keep a close eye on it and if it continues like that go to the store you bought it and tell there's a fault with your phone.
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Ughh, my battery temps are okay around the 30s, but my CPU is kinda bad.. The idle temps are around the 40s.

themegadinesen said:
Ughh, my battery temps are okay around the 30s, but my CPU is kinda bad.. The idle temps are around the 40s.
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Mine is around the 40s as well, it isn't necessarily bad or anything but 70s that's like overheating, idk what the max temperature is for the Galaxy S6 but I've got the feeling your coming close to it
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warface123 said:
Mine is around the 40s as well, it isn't necessarily bad or anything but 70s that's like overheating, idk what the max temperature is for the Galaxy S6 but I've got the feeling your coming close to it
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I know right.. specially for a mobile device 70 is kinda pushing it. I'll use the device in safe mode and see if it overheats and report back.

warface123 said:
Mine is around the 40s as well, it isn't necessarily bad or anything but 70s that's like overheating, idk what the max temperature is for the Galaxy S6 but I've got the feeling your coming close to it
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Wasnt able to measure temperatures but it did feel pretty hot (the right edge where the power button is) after using the camera for a bit, uninstalled a few apps just in case and ran Geekbench 3 and here are my scores, and compared to other s6s its quite low
Single core: 1353
Multicore: 4383

themegadinesen said:
Wasnt able to measure temperatures but it did feel pretty hot (the right edge where the power button is) after using the camera for a bit, uninstalled a few apps just in case and ran Geekbench 3 and here are my scores, and compared to other s6s its quite low
Single core: 1353
Multicore: 4383
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My geekbench 3 scores are:
Single core: 1484
Multicore:5043
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The easiest and most basic way to fix the Galaxy S6 overheating issue is to restart your Galaxy S6. Just switch off your Galaxy S6 phone. Wait for a few minutes and then turn it on again. It is quite possible that this small restart might fix the Galaxy S6 overheating issue.

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EDIT: It only reached 70C only once. The other times it got to the 60s.
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Depends on your room/surrounding temperature as well! In summer when it was like 33-35°C, my cpu never fell below 45C and battery always around 28-31C idle!
I think cpu starts throttling at 80C. Try Greenifying some apps as well!

emmawilliam834 said:
The easiest and most basic way to fix the Galaxy S6 overheating issue is to restart your Galaxy S6. Just switch off your Galaxy S6 phone. Wait for a few minutes and then turn it on again. It is quite possible that this small restart might fix the Galaxy S6 overheating issue.
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I have done that and well it's still the same.. Although i further tested and saw that my idle temps are around 35-38C

Fullmetal Jun said:
Depends on your room/surrounding temperature as well! In summer when it was like 33-35°C, my cpu never fell below 45C and battery always around 28-31C idle!
I think cpu starts throttling at 80C. Try Greenifying some apps as well!
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Ive further tested and found out my idling temps are around 35C-38C which is good, phone is running okayish now but yes ill greenify some apps. Also are you from mauritius?

themegadinesen said:
Ive further tested and found out my idling temps are around 35C-38C which is good, phone is running okayish now but yes ill greenify some apps. Also are you from mauritius?
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Great! Yes I'm a Mauritian!

themegadinesen said:
I have done that and well it's still the same.. Although i further tested and saw that my idle temps are around 35-38C
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ohhhhhhh . i wish any expert will give the solution of your problem soon

Install titanium app and freeze any random rogue apps. The CPU going to 70degs is not a bad thing usually the max temp would be over 100degs. Do you have the charger plugged in and you are using the phone, and you are getting those high temperatures while doing this? If so switch to a normal charger if you want to use your phone while it's plugged in. Fast charging while bring more power/heat to your phone so be aware of that

Overheating

Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?

Finnishman said:
Hi! I have G930F. I installed TWRP and installed DevBase v5.7 rom. When i flashed TGP kernel and played heavy game while 10 min, phone gets so hot. When i cheked battery temperature its showing 43°C. It is normal?
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LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?

Finnishman said:
LITTLE core looks like running all the time and i thing its cause heating. How i can fix this problem?
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Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...

slashxdot said:
Hello,
Exact same problem here.
I'm running latest LineageOS official.
What app are you using ? I can't find that one called "little" on the play store...
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I using mtweaks app

Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.

slashxdot said:
Thx, well it's not exactly the same problem as you have since my CPUs are running in low power state when the phone is not used.
Anyway, when I start browsing the internet, the phone gets hot and when I'm playing games, it just gets super-hot. (not in charge while using it btw).
Previously, I had a Nexus 4 which is famous for its overheating problems, but the S7 is worse.
This, the ill placed speaker, the poor quality of the AMOLED, I'm so disappointment with this phone.
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The AMOLED screen on the S7 was widely regarded as the best screen on a mobile phone when it was introduced.
You're running an unofficial ROM + kernel and running into problems and are blaming the phone? Lots of people seem to hold LineageOS up as the solution to all problems, but on many devices it seems to be a giant hack.

This screen is a piece of **** (mura effect & spots when lowering the brightness), my Nexus 4 screen is at least 10X better.
I'm running Cyanogenmod/LineageOS since the very beginning, never had this kind of problem before...

The S7 Exynos phones do tend to get a bit warm if you're browsing certain websites, Facebook and streaming, and it'll get hot if you're playing resource intensive games like GTA & Bully. That's what happens when your device's CPUs can reach a max clock speed of 2704MHz. Take a look at what apps are running in the background first.

I'm only able to read the battery temp sensor, no other sensor available despite having tried a lot of monitoring apps.
Idle temp : around 29-33°C
Heavy use : up to 45°C
Past 39°C, the phone gets really uncomfortable to use.

I did further testing with another S7 (carrier firmware, brand new), launched a stress-test app on both phones at the same time and after 15 min, mine is 4°C hotter (battery temp). It's not really relevant, maybe due to my tempered glass preventing heat dissipation or some LineageOS optimizations, I don't know. Anyway, the S7 feels way hotter than my previous phones.

it's strange that power user/advanced user have to complaining about overheating and comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel. and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*

maXDAmn said:
have to complaining
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have to complain
maXDAmn said:
comparing with other brand when they are running unofficial software and kernel.
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Irrelevant since the other S7 is running pretty hot too.
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and i think the word 'overheating' is about the cpu/chipset not the battery. *correct me*
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Yes but I only have access to the battery sensor. The frame is hot on both phone tough.

i have a snapdragon version of S7 and i don't think exynos version have overheating problem running on official firmware. running Oreo right now and still don't have such problem. and FYI using the phone INFO apps (google playstore), i can see the temperature of the cpu.

Question Cpu undervolting konabess app

Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.

pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat

malikin said:
pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat
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No case and no social Media Apps only WhatsApp...

Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!

Goku1992 said:
Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!
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EXYNOS hot - head

Griffin7296 said:
EXYNOS hot - head
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The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....

Goku1992 said:
The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....
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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere

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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere
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Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!

Goku1992 said:
Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!
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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!

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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!
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Okay mate then its fine. Hope someone can tell me if konabess is working on rooted s22u...

25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.

Goku1992 said:
Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.
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I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long

Tearm said:
I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long
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Thanks mate snapdragon? Do you have a custom kernel? S22 ultra? Sorry for the questions

gernerttl said:
25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.
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Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...

Goku1992 said:
Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...
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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.

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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.
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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)

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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)
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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.

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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.
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Mate the Ambient temp. The cpu itself is 40-50 then... 25would be nice and cool...

One or more of your apps is using more power than they should. You're going to have to figure out which.
I haven't rooted or debloated. I have social media apps installed and running. I was at the Blue Angels airshow last weekend. Even being on a hot tarmac with no shade it was working fine shooting video and photos with no overheating or stuttering. It was around 31-32C in direct sunlight the whole time.

Ive already factory resetet the phone. There isnt app. Then u are using the amazing snapdragon 8 gen 2 prototyp s23u from Samsung. The 8gen 1 is a hothead. Its confirmed. 31-32°C cpu temp in direct sunlight is impossible. Even the battery is a bit hotter then....
Here an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/rn1ffg
And Millions more if you Google snapdragon 8 gen 1. So please stop now. Only wanted to tame it a bit cause optimzing isnt bad.