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why not overclock the Xoom more?

just curious lol I love to push my devices to the limit!

I'm pretty sure a 50% increase in CPU speed on a dual core processor is more than enough for this guy. Why would you even need to go higher? You'll just end up breaking your device and come here complaining to the devs that it's their fault..
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I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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chrisharmful said:
I had mine set to 1.5 and it was very smooth and fast. But I noticed that if I was watching a movie, my xoom got pretty hot in my hand. Maybe not such a good idea to go that high or much higher than that perhaps?
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Exactly. Same here!

i think if it was totally safe motorola would have been the one to do it and brag that they have the fastest tablet in the market with a 1.5 - 2.0 Ghz Processor. if you want you device to last, leave it with the stock speed, this thing is pretty fast as is, and if you do have to overclock i think the max would be what others have said 1.5. there is no other benefit, and i doubt you will notice any difference. other then your battery lasting 2 hours and your web pages loading a second faster (not important), and maybe apps opening a little faster(won't notice) and then your device getting hot as other have said, which can bcome an issue with other things on the the motherboard becoming hot. and in the next few months you'll end up with a Motorola DOOM

Anyone play GTA Vice City on Nexus 5? Want to compare performance.

Just got 100% yea me! But just wanted to compare performance.
I played mostly at 80% resolution and 80% draw distance. Max graphics with dynamic lighting.
Same settings I played the original GTA on and minus rain that experience was very smooth.
Anyway I would say it was relatively smooth sailing 25-35 ish fps (guessing) but some places like Little Hatti and at random times from just running around the game would start to crawl. I know this is a port though so...
Overall I was content and enjoyed the experience but was kinda thinking coming into the Nexus 5 I could play something like this with no drop off. Was that silly thinking?
Anyone else out there care to post their experience?
BTW I am stock rooted. No custom kernels yet.

I think the phone could do much better in a freezer.
With "TT" in account your results seem good but FPS will get consistently slower over time so best to play in short bursts. :good:

Governor settings.
Best setup for gtas'.. Lock on 2 cores only, kernel allowing, since the game only uses 2, this will keep heat down. Setup ondemand governor to non aggressive race back to zero settings.. down_differential 30, all up_thresholds' 70

I played for quite a while yesterday with no drop in performance at max settings, i had a couple of freezes but only in cut scenes, the audio was still playing but the video stopped. Not an issue for me though
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Smallsmx3 said:
I played for quite a while yesterday with no drop in performance at max settings, i had a couple of freezes but only in cut scenes, the audio was still playing but the video stopped. Not an issue for me though
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Where was your resolution and draw at? 100%? Can you do me a favor and run through the little shacks and houses in little hati and tell me if your game crawls to a halt?

Um ok.... Won't be for awhile since I'm at work.... I don't think i have access to that area yet
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Smallsmx3 said:
Um ok.... Won't be for awhile since I'm at work.... I don't think i have access to that area yet
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Ok well when you make it to the second Island. Little Haiti is kinda set back some in the middle. The rundown part of town with all the gangs.

Ok
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[Q] Too low scores from benchmarks

I just got 17-18k on antutu. Stock rom,stock kernel. With elementalx kernel i can reach 27k but it is still bad for elemental x. What's wrong with my phone ? i flashed factory image again nothing changed also i just noticed when i underclock my cpu to 1.7 ghz i'm getting 28k on antutu.

Thermal throttle

Lethargy said:
Thermal throttle
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?

msnnsm said:
Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.

The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...

Lethargy said:
By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:

msnnsm said:
I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...

eddiehk6 said:
Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Firstly i don't need to tell you why i'm trying to get higher score but i will because you're talking too agresively with me without reason.I don't care about score. If every nexus 5 would be the same and get just 15k score including mine i would accept my phone with 15k. But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine. It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.

No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.

Lethargy said:
No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?

msnnsm said:
I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.

Lethargy said:
At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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Hmm you're right. Do you know a good one ? I got 28.8k now with elemental x kernel with "Undervolt" feature. To be honest i don't know how much is normal for a nexus 5 device with this kernel.

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I don't care about score
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine.
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No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
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If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...

eddiehk6 said:
Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
In normal usage; yeah it is fast But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.

msnnsm said:
The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
You don't need a score to see how powerful your phone is. It will breeze through most tasks just fine. "A little lag" on a graphically intense game is to be expected sometimes.
Gaming -> High CPU load -> heat -> thermal throttle -> bit of lag
Laws of physics
In normal usage; yeah it is fast
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This is the only real 'benchmark' which is actually important in normal day to day usage.
But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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Yes there is a reason we all get different scores, the same reason we all get different battery life. There are many variables, not least temperature and thermal throttling.
We have different number of apps installed and running at any one time, things syncing, mods, scripts, ROMs, kernels, all different. No two CPUs and Nexus 5s are exactly identical either. So therefore you get different 'scores'. Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...

eddiehk6 said:
So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
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It doesn't make any sense
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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Okey, i trust you. Since i just bought phone and didn't test it much really i won't test it or try to improve it for now.

The way a phone works doesn't lend itself well to benchmarks. That's why manufacturers like Samsung have traditionally "cheated" on benchmarks by ensuring maximum clock speeds are used when they detect a bench marking application.
If you want to maximize your benchmark scores you simply need to disable thermal throttling (or increase its limit) and also use optimized Dalvik copied from another device.

rootSU said:
The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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This. Thermal throttle is a way to keep your phone regulated into normal temperatures specified by the device manufacturer. However, it's generally safe to raise it a bit, mine is set to 85.

aw man, its too bad i wasnt around earlier

[Q] Disabling Cores (Root)

So I finally decided to root my G Flex 2. I've been talking about disabling cores for a while. Thought it may help the thermal throttling issues. Once I rooted the device I downloaded "Multicore CPU" and started disabling cores in a couple different combos. I've finally settled on disabling cores 4 and 7. Since I disabled the two cores heat has not been an issue and cores 5 and 6 are running at 2ghz. Reduced lag, and benchmarks have shot up some. Personally enjoying the lagless environment. Figured I'd post my experience with this. I'm hoping overall battery life will be better as well. Won't know for a day or two though. Oh and it stays cool while charging and in use. It used to get really hot before.
Anyone else have any experience with this?

So here are results of disabling cores and thermal throttling or lack there of now.
I also want to note that my benchmark scores were lower than the note 4 after some updates until now

BillyxAllen said:
So I finally decided to root my G Flex 2. I've been talking about disabling cores for a while. Thought it may help the thermal throttling issues. Once I rooted the device I downloaded "Multicore CPU" and started disabling cores in a couple different combos. I've finally settled on disabling cores 4 and 7. Since I disabled the two cores heat has not been an issue and cores 5 and 6 are running at 2ghz. Reduced lag, and benchmarks have shot up some. Personally enjoying the lagless environment. Figured I'd post my experience with this. I'm hoping overall battery life will be better as well. Won't know for a day or two though. Oh and it stays cool while charging and in use. It used to get really hot before.
Anyone else have any experience with this?
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My core 4 and 7 were already disabled but still very laggy... And it heats up really bad...

When do you get this overheating issues? My flex just gets warm using Chrome so i use the lg Browser now. And whats your Firmware? Still stuck in c with all Cores enabled

pascal7b said:
When do you get this overheating issues? My flex just gets warm using Chrome so i use the lg Browser now. And whats your Firmware? Still stuck in c with all Cores enabled
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My software is 10e. It heats up during YouTube, Chrome and is warmer in general then my previous phones. And its still heavy laggy...

kutinho said:
My core 4 and 7 were already disabled but still very laggy... And it heats up really bad...
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4 and 7 are not active unless 5 and 6 are under heavy load I believe. I've just made it so they never turn on.

I'm also using software ls996zv5
It's the sprint model

kutinho said:
My software is 10e. It heats up during YouTube, Chrome and is warmer in general then my previous phones. And its still heavy laggy...
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Ok on YouTube mine gets a bit warm but not as hot as in Chrome (on normal sites, nothing fancy). Watched twitch in Full hd for an Hour yesterday without any heat...seems like some Apps are better optimised for the sd810 than others
Are we getting a sd808 by disabling 2 Cores?

pascal7b said:
Ok on YouTube mine gets a bit warm but not as hot as in Chrome (on normal sites, nothing fancy). Watched twitch in Full hd for an Hour yesterday without any heat...seems like some Apps are better optimised for the sd810 than others
Are we getting a sd808 by disabling 2 Cores?
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It looks like SD810 is a peace of crap. The Flex 2 compared to my Oneplus One is like an Opel / Vauxhall Astra compared to an BMW X6.. Very disappointed..

BillyxAllen said:
So here are results of disabling cores and thermal throttling or lack there of now.
I also want to note that my benchmark scores were lower than the note 4 after some updates until now
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Ok getting a lil bit off-topic here ...i am Happy with the Phone so far, way faster than my old razr i Think Updates will make this Baby Fly (even more)
So Keep us updated with your experiences as hexacore user i am very interested in the Battery life and Real Life Performance !

808 with better GPU lol

kutinho said:
It looks like SD810 is a peace of crap. The Flex 2 compared to my Oneplus One is like an Opel / Vauxhall Astra compared to an BMW X6.. Very disappointed..
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I am also coming from oneplus, I must say you are sadly right. Newer is not necessary better in this case.
I hope with some optimalization this can be a Ferrari.
I was already let down by LG a few years before, let's hope it is not the case now.

Ronee33 said:
I am also coming from oneplus, I must say you are sadly right. Newer is not necessary better in this case.
I hope with some optimalization this can be a Ferrari.
I was already let down by LG a few years before, let's hope it is not the case now.
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Hope that with android 5.1 everything will change for better.. :fingers-crossed:

I have the AT&T version of this phone and for me cores 4,5,6 and 7 are always on except when the cpu goes above 36C then cores 4 and 7 automatically get disabled. I'm also not experiencing any lag and it's actually very smooth and fast. It also doesn't get very hot unless I run Antutu benchmark like three times in a row. What kind of CPU temperatures are you guys seeing when your phone gets hot?

probaina said:
I have the AT&T version of this phone and for me cores 4,5,6 and 7 are always on except when the cpu goes above 36C then cores 4 and 7 automatically get disabled. I'm also not experiencing any lag and it's actually very smooth and fast. It also doesn't get very hot unless I run Antutu benchmark like three times in a row. What kind of CPU temperatures are you guys seeing when your phone gets hot?
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I also have the at&t version. There isn't much lag, but it gets pretty hot. Where do I check CPU temp?
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gtamgs15 said:
I also have the at&t version. There isn't much lag, but it gets pretty hot. Where do I check CPU temp?
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You can download Cpu Temp from the play store or I also see it in kernel apps like Trickster MOD.
My galaxy S4 used to get warmer then this phone when watching Youtube or browsing in Chrome.

probaina said:
You can download Cpu Temp from the play store or I also see it in kernel apps like Trickster MOD.
My galaxy S4 used to get warmer then this phone when watching Youtube or browsing in Chrome.
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Runs at 44C after playing games for a few minutes.
Sent from my LG-H950 using XDA Free mobile app

The highest i've seen is 47C and it does make the phone feel warm but not any warmer than my Galaxy S4 used to get.

probaina said:
The highest i've seen is 47C and it does make the phone feel warm but not any warmer than my Galaxy S4 used to get.
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My phone is around 40C when playing games or browsing the Web.
With another firmware wersion I was getting temperatures around 48C. That was Killin the battery in minutes.

This is what I deal with when all 4 cores are running

My geek bench scores are low.

I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.

bhavinshah_321 said:
I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.
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Please no. You should keep yourself from doing that. Your device works fine.
Benchmark scores doesnt really scale well on day to day usage I guarantee that.
The main issue with low score in benchmark is DEVICE Temperature. The more heat it gets the lower the score.
Let me clear this thing up to you
You said that your device is not slowing down but got low scores in benchmark, that's because your normal usage of device doesnt push your hardware to its limits therefore you dont feel like it is crawling.
Benchmarking is different. It generally juices up your phone to its full capacity but thermal throttling comes into play, it is a safe-fail feature on device to prevent chips from getting fried. Its doing it by lowering the CPU/GPU clockspeed, the lower the speed, the lower the score you get.
But if you're desperate enough, you may achieve this thru cooling it first, mine gets 5.3k+ on multiscore at 23-25 airconditioned room. 4.5k average on room temperature, and a much lower score of 3K when I run it multiple times.

Oh okay. This is nothing to worry about right? Coz I read in one of the xda forums that this is coz there are some faulty units out there. And I voided my warranty with Unikernel. It was worth it. RAM issues and all.
Keeping it in a AC room I achieved scores beyond 5k.

See why worry if your device doesnt fail you at all hehe.
I dont know about you guys who keeps on relying with benchmark scores?
Live up with your device people. Just settle down and enjoy using it.

Haha yeah. Honestly if it wasn't for Unikernel I'd be pretty disappointed with this device. All lag and stutters gone and finally smooth scrolling. OK totally off topic questions.. Apparently this kernel has something called LED Fade. And I don't know how to make it work. Any help? My notification LED is still the same.