Hello everyone, I have a very very annoying issue with the headphones + amp / DAC connected with the mobile phone ( fold z 4 )
I have little hopes to find a fix, but it's worth trying.
So, let's explain what is about.
I'm using the headphones Denon D9200 ( wired ) + the Signature amp / DAC connected to the mobile phone.
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https://www.denon.com/en-us/product/over-ear-headphones/ah-d9200
After listening some time on YouTube, the signal from the Signature is gone and the mobile phone speakers are active, not the headphones
I tested on different mobile devices. Here are the results.
Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 ultra : after less than 5 minutes, same issue.
Android 13, One UI 5.0
Samsung Galaxy Z fold 4, same issue.
Android 13, One UI 5.1
Google Pixel 2 XL, no issues
Android 8.1, rooted phone, but the sound quality is far far away behind , from everything else I used as mobile device.
Low volume, no matter I do, and it sounds like I'm using some cheap amp / DAC device
IPad Pro 12.9 ( tested on 3 different devices, 2018, 2020 and 2021 )
No issues at all. The sound quality and the loudness level is the best I've ever heard with the Signature + Denon d9200
That's a mistery for me. I thought, the Signature is doing the job, not the mobile device or the OS
USB C is on all devices ( iPad pro, Android phones, Android tablet )
PC Windows 10, no issues at all
Laptop Windows 10, no issues at all
Samsung Galaxy note 10 and Note 9 ( didn't check the Android and One Ui version )
Same issue
It's hard to say but it might be Android ( latest versions ) the culprit.
Google Pixel 2 xl is using Android as well but some older ( 2018 ) version and with custom ROM + custom kernel
Hopefully, someone here who read this post, with the Signature and some newer Android devices, could give me some advices
Thank you
LE : from the Signature to the mobile devices, it's a cable USB A with an OTG adapter to USB C
That's the only way I can connect it with the USB C mobile devices.
Just did another test, for about one hour with Samsung Galaxy Note 10 plus
Android 12, OneUI 4.0
Not a single issue.
Android 13 is the culprit. Not the cables, not iFi Signature.
With Android 13, they added the headphones icon when headphones are connected and the volum button is used
Android 12, classic, without the headphones icon
I wonder what exactly could be done about this
There must be a way to fix it
Any advices, guys??
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OK, I know the P5113 US has the HDMI out support over the 30-pin connector via the adapter Samsung sells and One user on here with one a 5113 (assumed may because he said he had a tab 2 10.1 and location is in USA) was able to use a 30-pin to RCA and USB (for charging) seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018021 to get audio out over the 30 pin so my question is does the P3113 have the hardware support to do the same or is that part of the same setup that has to do with the HDMI and how it works on the 5113 and NOT the 3113?
And if anyone on any 31xx series has found a cable that will do this can supply a link, trying to configure a single plug setup to design an in dash holder for the tab.
I am interested in this myself. I am suppose to be picking up a P3113 tomorrow and plan on using this primarily in my truck. Hopefully someone with experience in this can point us in the right direction. I may end up ordering one of those cables and trying it out but was hoping someone else had already tried it and could report back.
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I called Samsung yesterday about this very subject. I am a music producer and am very interested in using the P3113 to handle high quality audio.
I asked the Samsung tech specifically about how to go about getting high quality audio in and out of the P3113. The lady I spoke with had no specific knowledge as to whether it was possible or not, so I asked her to look and see if there were any cables or adapters for this purpose. She looked and said she didn’t find anything. I then asked about getting a pin out chart of the 30 pin connector and she couldn’t find that either. Her best recommendation was to go to samsungparts.com & order the service manual. She said she THOUGHT the pinout chart (or whatever it’s called) would be in the service manual but couldn’t promise either way though.
As soon as I get the time I intend on calling Samsung again and seeing if I can get to a deeper department than just first level technical help. Maybe I will get lucky and speak to someone who actually knows about handling audio. If not, and if no one has success with the aforementioned cable I intend on getting that service manual and seeing if I can get a tech to help me determine how to go about doing it, and perhaps getting a custom cable made for that purpose.
I got my P3113 for Christmas and started reading on here every day since. Early on I remember seeing a thread somewhere talking about some kind of dock for one of the Galaxy Tab 2 models, and it seems like someone hacked up that dock and was successful with audio. I can’t remember where that thread is, and a quick search didn’t lead me back to it. I wish I would have been taking notes that early. When I have more time I will look for that thread and see.
It would be really cool if someone has success with the cable mentioned in this thread. If no one finds out, or if it is determined that this particular cable doesn’t help us, I will get the 30 pin connector looked at by a tech and report back my findings.
Is there anyone out there that can help us out?
Geez you guys ever read anything here? I must have answered this question 20 times and Samsung accessories web pages is pretty clear. The P31XX series does not have the hardware to do HDMI or any video output. The P51xx does.
Again now repeat after me, The P51xx series is compatible with the HDMI adapter the P31xx including the p3113 is not compatible and cannot produce video out. The P6210 (Tab 7 Plus) is compatible and does HDMI, the P3113 does not.
The audio on the 30 pins is available on all models and it is the same as the audio on the headphone jack. I don;t know what you noobs call high quality audio, but its simple stereo analog audio which is as high as stereo ANALOG gets. Repeat the Samsung media dock for the P31xx series has this two I/Os
1. USB Power for charging or sync
2. Analog Stereo audio out.. " 3.5mm audio out jack supports external speakers or home stereo connection."
Nothing more, nothing less. No video out, not audio in.
This is the technical info of Samsung Galaxy Tab Pinouts for digital and analog I/O on the 30 pin dock connector.. NOTE: the MHL (video out) pins are not functional in the P3113 and P3100
1 Gnd P
2 Gnd P
3 USB_DP_CON I/O
4 USB_DM_CON I/O
5 IF_CON_SENSE I
6 V_ACCESSORY_5.0V P
7 V_BUS_1 P
8 V_BUS_1 P
9 VOUT_CHARGER P
10 VOUT_CHARGER P
11 no connection
12 no connection
13 ACCESSORY_ID / USB_ID I
14 ACCESSORY_INT I
15 Gnd P
16 Gnd P
17 MHL_DP I/O
18 MHL_DM I/O
19 MHL_ID I
20 IF_RXD I
21 IF_TXD O
22 no connection?
23 AP_TV_OUT O
24 REMOTE_SENSE I
25 no connection
26 no connection
27 EAR_L_CRADLE O
28 EAR_R_CRADLE O
29 3.5_INT_TEST I
30 Gnd P
DigitalMD said:
Geez you guys ever read anything here? I must have answered this question 20 times and Samsung accessories web pages is pretty clear. The P31XX series does not have the hardware to do HDMI or any video output. The P51xx does.
Again now repeat after me, The P51xx series is compatible with the HDMI adapter the P31xx including the p3113 is not compatible and cannot produce video out. The P6210 (Tab 7 Plus) is compatible and does HDMI, the P3113 does not.
The audio on the 30 pins is available on all models and it is the same as the audio on the headphone jack. I don;t know what you noobs call high quality audio, but its simple stereo analog audio which is as high as stereo ANALOG gets. Repeat the Samsung media dock for the P31xx series has this two I/Os
1. USB Power for charging or sync
2. Analog Stereo audio out.. " 3.5mm audio out jack supports external speakers or home stereo connection."
Nothing more, nothing less. No video out, not audio in.
This is the technical info of Samsung Galaxy Tab Pinouts for digital and analog I/O on the 30 pin dock connector.. NOTE: the MHL (video out) pins are not functional in the P3113 and P3100
1 Gnd P
2 Gnd P
3 USB_DP_CON I/O
4 USB_DM_CON I/O
5 IF_CON_SENSE I
6 V_ACCESSORY_5.0V P
7 V_BUS_1 P
8 V_BUS_1 P
9 VOUT_CHARGER P
10 VOUT_CHARGER P
11 no connection
12 no connection
13 ACCESSORY_ID / USB_ID I
14 ACCESSORY_INT I
15 Gnd P
16 Gnd P
17 MHL_DP I/O
18 MHL_DM I/O
19 MHL_ID I
20 IF_RXD I
21 IF_TXD O
22 no connection?
23 AP_TV_OUT O
24 REMOTE_SENSE I
25 no connection
26 no connection
27 EAR_L_CRADLE O
28 EAR_R_CRADLE O
29 3.5_INT_TEST I
30 Gnd P
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I know you said it had the same as the headphone out thru the USB (from your last post in the thread I linked), what I'm looking for is a CONFIRMED working 30-pin cable that both charges the tab and give AUDIO out (i'm OK with it being the same audio as the headphones), I don't need video, I just want a quick and easy one plug and go cable when I get in the car, so I don't have to deal with plugging in a charge cable and a headphone cable into opposite ends, which will make my Tab not fit where I plan to put it when I do the final install.
It seems that Tab 2 7 and Tab 2 10.1 do not have the same connection logic if P-1000 cables work for the Tab 2 10.1 (GT-P51xx) - the ones I have do not work for the GT-P3110 out of the box.
Check my findings on 30 pin audio out in this thread.
hi,
I'm new to android phones. I wanted to connect my copy of the Nexus 4 to JBL On Stage IV, which I used with my old iPhone. Unfortunately, after using the micro-usb adapter my phone is charging but does not transmit music to speakers. I would add that I have system :Nexus 5 Experience ROM [4.4 KK] Rooted.
Can u help me ? Can i use my JBL On Stage whit my nexus 4 ?
Sincerely,
Virion90
Virion90 said:
hi,
I'm new to android phones. I wanted to connect my copy of the Nexus 4 to JBL On Stage IV, which I used with my old iPhone. Unfortunately, after using the micro-usb adapter my phone is charging but does not transmit music to speakers. I would add that I have system :Nexus 5 Experience ROM [4.4 KK] Rooted.
Can u help me ? Can i use my JBL On Stage whit my nexus 4 ?
Sincerely,
Virion90
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The USB port on that device probably does not support MTP, so it can't directly pull music off of the storage. It also was released around 2010ish (Based on a quick Google), before Android got the capability to send audio over USB so it does not support the Android standard. It will not be able to output over USB. You're going to have to use a 3.5mm cable to connect it to the headphone jack on the Nexus to get any audio output.
Ok, thx 4 help. Now i will buy 30pin to mini-jack adapter on ebay .
You can try one of those Apple 30pin <-> Bluetooth adapters. That way you can charge your phone over USB and just send the audio over Bluetooth to the dock. Something like this: http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-bluetooth-dock-adapter/
Hi All,
Here's my issue:
I have an Red-mi Note 5 Pro and Android 8.0. I bought a Mode-Com Bluetooth speaker and Bluetooth V4. I also bought an Ultron UBA-140 nano USB Adaptor to use with my Android but it doesn't recognise it. I can pair the devices but can not use the speaker so the device and the Android supports Bluetooth adaptor.
My questions are:
Can I get a driver for my BT v4 adaptor to the Android 8.0 and above?
Or should I buy a different adaptor which is compatible with the Android ?
How can I know which adaptors are compatible with it ?
Any chance that the desktop mode on android q be supported by pixel 3? Knowing that there is no HDMI out for pixel 3, would Google be able to enable HDMI out via a software update? Alternatively, can we use casting to enable the desktop mode on a secondary display with a Chromecast?
Now that Android 10 is available on Pixel 3 and 3 XL, can someone try a USB-C to HDMI adapter with Android 10 update to see if Google has activated HDMI over USB-C for Desktop Mode ? Thank you in advance guys ?
Disappointing, doesn’t do anything here. Never heard anything again about Desktop mode, except of the beginning of beta1.
@trinec it does work on OnePlus 7, 7 Pro and Essential Phone since Android 10 update, you just have to enable 'Force desktop mode' in Developer Settings, restart the phone and plug a USB-C to HDMI adapter
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/04/essential-phone-oneplus-7-pro-desktop-modes-android-10
booldega said:
@trinec it does work on OnePlus 7, 7 Pro and Essential Phone since Android 10 update, you just have to enable 'Force desktop mode' in Developer Settings, restart the phone and plug a USB-C to HDMI adapter
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/04/essential-phone-oneplus-7-pro-desktop-modes-android-10
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Enabled it, pluged it into a usb-c hdmi adapter: didn't do anything.
On the Oneplus 7 it seems to be pretty bad compared to Samsung Dex. So we are only missing out on google style alpha version of a desktop mode.
Thank you @madphone ! All Pixel smartphones (1, 1XL, 2, 2XL, 3, 3XL) have USB 3 except 3a and 3a XL which have USB 2 so Google could activate USB-C to HDMI support with a simple OTA update like LG did with Android 9 update on LG G7, V35 and V40 but they don't, for sure they want you to buy a chromecast but it has a way too high input lag in comparison to USB-C to HDMI adapters. Maybe it could be enabled with an alternative ROM but more and more Android smartphones are becoming compatible with HDMI adapters, soon all Android flagships will support HDMI except Pixels. High end smartphone (price) with low end capabilities, I think that's an enough reason for not buying it.
If you want an improved Desktop Mode on OnePlus 7 more similar to Samsung Dex you can install Sentio Desktop https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sentio.desktop
Hi,
Let's start a USB C earphone support thread. So far I've tried the following, without full support:
- Razer Hammerhead, Music Yes, Microphone in Recorder Yes, Calls No
- OnePlus Bullets, Music Yes, Recorder Yes, Calls No
I'm starting to think all USB C headphones are going to be like this on the Note 9... Surprised they haven't updated the source to support these kinds of headphones ahead of the Note 10 and it's lack of 3.5mm port.
Same problem
Same problem here. No solution so far. Going to take these things back.
@Class said:
Hi,
Let's start a USB C earphone support thread. So far I've tried the following, without full support:
- Razer Hammerhead, Music Yes, Microphone in Recorder Yes, Calls No
- OnePlus Bullets, Music Yes, Recorder Yes, Calls No
I'm starting to think all USB C headphones are going to be like this on the Note 9... Surprised they haven't updated the source to support these kinds of headphones ahead of the Note 10 and it's lack of 3.5mm port.
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I'm thinking they don't see a reason to have usb c headphone fully supported on the Note 9 because it actually has a 3.5mm port? We all know Samsung is the last to adopt certain things. It would be nice if they did support it though because the range of possibilities would be more for listening to music. Headphone Jack busted...not a problem, use usb c port etc.
Xiaomi ANC HiRes audio type C earphones, not working at all
I've tried Google's for pixel 3 earphones. Music and control (including mic on recorder) yes, phone calls no. But I must say: the sound through these earphones surpasses anything I've tried on my note 9. Even without phone call function the quality of music coming out of these earphones is worth it!
HTC U-Sonic USB-C earbuds are a no-go all the way around on both the Note 9 & Note FE.
The Developer Options on the Note FE even has an audio source option in the USB Configuration section & still nothing.
IIRC, the HTC USB-C buds were one of the earliest models available & may have been proprietary to HTC phones.
I have got them to work on a few non-HTC phones along the way, but, Samsung isn't one of 'em (OnePlus/BlackShark/RazerPhone come to mind,IIRC).
Sent from my Note Fan Edition using XDA Labs
I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 9, 8 and FE don't support the use of USB Type-C headsets for calling.
I use a Lenovo USB-C hub that I plug my Astro Mixamp into and listen to music.
I can't get phone calls to work tho.
i tried plugging note 10 C headphone to my note 9 so it is just able to hear music but can not answer the call. However, the C headphone did on my S10e.
OnePlus Type-C Bullets work!
Hey everybody! I just came on to search whether or not my type C bullets from my OnePlus 6t would work on the Note 9 I just got. Before plugging them in, I went into developer options and unchecked "Disable USB audio routing". Plugged them in and the sound incredible! The in-line volume, play and pise functions on the Bullets work as well. However, attempted to make a phone call and it just stayed defaulted to the phones earpiece with the Bluetooth or speaker phone option. Anyway, just thought I'd share my experience a few moments ago lol. Yes it would be great if we could get these to work with a simple phone call. Hate to just put these Bullets in a drawer to collect dust until the day they are supported by a phone I own lol.
salahmed said:
Xiaomi ANC HiRes audio type C earphones, not working at all
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Yes, they do work for listenning, with volume and pause/resume buttons. They don't work for call though.
Something changed in Android 10? On apk mirror is samsung usbc headset app/driver but its not working :/
Couldn't find developer options
Hi, I tried what you recommended. I couldn't find developer options except under accessibility. It didn't have remove audio routing. I have a note 9
I have connected Logitech G933 Artemis wireless headphone with a USB-A to USB-C converter and it works.
Jlozde said:
I have connected Logitech G933 Artemis wireless headphone with a USB-A to USB-C converter and it works.
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Correct. I also tried on a Corsair G935 and audio works but phone calls do it. Tried it on my Note 10 and if works just fine for calls.
Thinking this might be a hardware and not a software issue.
Does Usb C firmware update works on Note 9 too? For usb C headphones?
iamkani said:
Does Usb C firmware update works on Note 9 too? For usb C headphones?
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Okay so i know this thread was started a while back, I just wanna say for any new Googler's that the Note 9 cannot support calls because it has the 3.5mm ear jack which handles all the analogue sounds means phone calls, "Hey Google" and similar cannot be passed through the Type C headsets/headphones. Its hardware so no apps can help with that.