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->[Q] Tablet with digital audio out [tablet->optical(toslink or coax)cable->DAC]

->[Q] Tablet with digital audio out [tablet->optical(toslink or coax)cable->DAC]
Hello,
I've tried the search and couldn't find anything relating to my issue.
I need a portable device/music player that has the ability to stream digital audio to my DAC (digital to analog converter).
I would like to listen to my music in my car using this tablet/music player. I have a DAC/Signal prosessor which has both optical coax and toslink inputs to recieve the signal so either one is fine.
Here is the signal path explained once again:
tablet -> optical toslink or coax cable -> DAC -> any given audio system (In my case also car audio system)
Please help me choose a tablet or help me find a way to do this. I know that some tablets have hdmi out, but it gets a little too tricky to seperate the digital audio signal from hdmi port to spdif, am I right?
Any help is greatly appreciated,
-Tersi

Guys, I don't mean to be impatient but I thought this was the place to get some answers to my problem.
Is there a way to send digital audio via usb port? I think there are ways to convert digital audio from usb to spdif..
Or could there maybe be a docking station, that has a digital audio output?
Please share your knowlage of the tablet world!

I am also looking for this too! I want to use a tablet as a car pc and run the audio out of it digitally to prevent all noise and ground loop headaches.

Did anyone ever get anywhere with this. I'm looking to do the exact same thing and the HDMI converter kit I bought is useless so I'm looking for another go around.

ainol novo basic
I just received an ainol novo basic w/ ICS (mcbub.com from LA). It uses a MIPS processor so not all apps are 100% compatible, however I am able to use it as intended (music player). If you tether you can use pandora, slacker, etc.
I take the HDMI out into a monoprice 5557 (sorry no url)
HDMI converter which outputs toslink, analog, RCA.
I use this in a home application (110v), however they are low power and you can use it in a car.
Be careful you need the Ainol Basic because it has the HDMI output. The paladin (which I also have) does not.
I'm sure there are others but for $130 I doubt you will do better, especially because it's running ICS also.
I use RCA optical into my Fiio DAC (sounds better). Toslink works too.
Monoprice switch uses ~3W on 5V, the Ainol is powered by miniusb.
I'm sure you have an onboard DAC (Fiio is excellent tho), but if you dont I recommend it. It has issues w/ 5.1 audio tho, so only pass it stereo.
I haven't tested 5.1 sound on it, although the specs say it will pass it. Your DAC will probably be the issue.
HTH.

Is this the only tablet that can do that? I was also considering this. Doing digital to the back of the car and then running it to a powerful car audio system.

I am also looking for this tablet or solution to this problem. Anybody knows?

usb dac optical out
I know rhis thread is old but for anyone looking for optical out via usb samsung note2 3 8 pro line s line nexus 7 both. Nexus 10. All of these tested w a behringer uca 202 dac w optical out. And I love it. Almost any newer andoid tablet that supports usb host will work.

b3ltazar said:
I know rhis thread is old but for anyone looking for optical out via usb samsung note2 3 8 pro line s line nexus 7 both. Nexus 10. All of these tested w a behringer uca 202 dac w optical out. And I love it. Almost any newer andoid tablet that supports usb host will work.
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Yep !!ok!!But the problem is (for car install) the charging (in the same time):crying::crying:
Even the older samsung tablets with the multi-pin connectors have the ability to conect and charge .
This make me mad...

tito1231 said:
Yep !!ok!!But the problem is (for car install) the charging (in the same time):crying::crying:
Even the older samsung tablets with the multi-pin connectors have the ability to conect and charge .
This make me mad...
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What kind of tablet do you have there are otg and charging kernels for most of the popular tablets and a few tricks for any samsung that supports otg...and if ur tablet doesn't support it u can wire a relay to a moded cable that will charge when the car is off and otg when car is on.. if u need details let me know.

b3ltazar said:
What kind of tablet do you have there are otg and charging kernels for most of the popular tablets and a few tricks for any samsung that supports otg...and if ur tablet doesn't support it u can wire a relay to a moded cable that will charge when the car is off and otg when car is on.. if u need details let me know.
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Τhank's for answer , i have see your threads for otg and charging .
Your suggestions is very valuable but ....
I have a tab pro 8.4" wi-fi EU ,but i dont have luck with resistanse (88kohm i thing)
Relay is very nice solution-i have use one already for delay the 12v current to my HU.
any battery drain for the next morning??
For the next step ... Behringer U-CONTROL UCA222 ?? ru sure??coz i go for it!!.
Works with no external power???
I can get audio from rca output to??

[Q] What's missing between Apogee One > Nexus5?

[EDIT] When testing the setup below again it's obvious that the Nexus 5 doesn't detect an audio sorce. It does if I use the same cables connecting the headphone output on iPad Mini to the Nexus 5.
Hi
I need to be able to use Skype in my Nexus5 with an external, phantom powered microphone. It's powered by an Apogee One sound interface that has a headphone output with 30 Ohms impedance. I have the right adapter cables to connect the headphone output with the four pin input on the Nexus 5. But the quality of the sound heard in Skype is terrible. I guess the problem is the impedance. So please advice me on what I have to by and add between the two devices? Preferably something portable and not to expensive.

[Q] play in car radio via USB?

Can the S6 be played through my car radio via USB? I don't have Bluetooth (or 3.5 mm) in my car and this is one of the reasons I've thought about switching to an iphone. I know this isn't possible with my Nexus 4 but I was wondering if Samsung has done anything about this.

nvillamob said:
Can the S6 be played through my car radio via USB? I don't have Bluetooth (or 3.5 mm) in my car and this is one of the reasons I've thought about switching to an iphone. I know this isn't possible with my Nexus 4 but I was wondering if Samsung has done anything about this.
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I'm not 100% certain but I believe it still isn't possible even with the S6 to play music via a USB cable in your car. I'm not sure if you have a cassette slot in your car but you can get a cheap adapter for your cassette slot which gives you an aux input. They can be found quite cheap on amazon, maybe $15 or so.

nvillamob said:
Can the S6 be played through my car radio via USB? I don't have Bluetooth (or 3.5 mm) in my car and this is one of the reasons I've thought about switching to an iphone. I know this isn't possible with my Nexus 4 but I was wondering if Samsung has done anything about this.
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Doesn't Samsung support USB mass storage? It should work

Sadly, a lot of the infotainment systems (that have USB ports) on cars are really optimized for iOS and not for Android.
eg. Toyota, Hyundai, KIA, VW, Benz, and many more. The systems on those brands usually only work with Android via 3.5mm audio jack or through Bluetooth.
Using a cassette adapter has OK sound quality, but it's not that great.
@ OP: It's unlikely that a Galaxy S6 will play its media through USB for your car.

This is Samsung's flagship android device??
This is a major disappointment.
With my S3 I was able to play music on my car's sound system via the USB cable but apparently this is impossible with the S6.
Another major downer is the inability to add additional storage.

external DAC compatibility list

as the title says, do you use or are you planning to use an external DAC with your Note 7? If so, did you run into any compatibility issues? For instance, I am planning to get an Audioquest Dragonfly Red if it turns out that I dont like the internal DAC of my soon to arrive Note 7 Exynos with my Westone W40's, but I will wait until I find some feedback on the compatibility of the two devices (Note 7 with Dragonfly Red).
I think it would be helpful for people, especially since the Note 7 has a USB Type-C connector, to know which external DAC will work with their Note 7.
Greetings berzerk428

With the suplied adapter every external dac should work.... usb otg works with all the accesories ( see youtube video).
Sent from my SM-N920C using XDA-Developers mobile app

is this also true for DAPs/DACs like the Fiio X5ii? In their official forums they claim the Fiio X5ii can not be used as a DAC for Android Smartphones because the Smartphone expects Synchronous Data Transfer whilst the X5ii is designed for Asynchronous Data Transfer. Now I know there's an App called USB Audio Player Pro which bypasses the Android OS and allows Async DACs to function but I rely on ID3 Tags that only Rocket Player can give me. I heard that USB Audio Playback was possible from Adroid 5 and upwards, so I would think that the newer Android OS can also handle Asynchronous Data Transfer, am I right in that assumption?

berzerk428 said:
as the title says, do you use or are you planning to use an external DAC with your Note 7? If so, did you run into any compatibility issues? For instance, I am planning to get an Audioquest Dragonfly Red if it turns out that I dont like the internal DAC of my soon to arrive Note 7 Exynos with my Westone W40's, but I will wait until I find some feedback on the compatibility of the two devices (Note 7 with Dragonfly Red).
I think it would be helpful for people, especially since the Note 7 has a USB Type-C connector, to know which external DAC will work with their Note 7.
Greetings berzerk428
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Dragonfly Red works great on mine.
Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk

GermanGuy said:
Dragonfly Red works great on mine.
Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk
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I'm glad to hear that, are you using USB Audio Player Pro or does the Dragonfly also work with other Music Players?

berzerk428 said:
I'm glad to hear that, are you using USB Audio Player Pro or does the Dragonfly also work with other Music Players?
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Only usb audio player pro.
Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk

berzerk428 said:
I'm glad to hear that, are you using USB Audio Player Pro or does the Dragonfly also work with other Music Players?
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i'm using with USB Audio Player PRO and the a Beta version of PowerAmp that has USB DAC functionality. USB Audio Player PRO seems to provide better output (vs the beta PowerAmp) and, with my Shure SE846 in ear monitors, music sounds simply amazing... mitigates my need for Viper4Android. By the way, i'm using N930FD, rooted with SuperSU and Dr Ketan's (near stock) ROM.

chord hugo
chord mojo
the JDS Lab C5D might work

cortez.i said:
i'm using with USB Audio Player PRO and the a Beta version of PowerAmp that has USB DAC functionality. USB Audio Player PRO seems to provide better output (vs the beta PowerAmp) and, with my Shure SE846 in ear monitors, music sounds simply amazing... mitigates my need for Viper4Android. By the way, i'm using N930FD, rooted with SuperSU and Dr Ketan's (near stock) ROM.
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Poweramp beta does not access the amp on the dragonfly, that's why the output is lower compared to usb audio player.
Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk

Fiio Q1 works nicely. Chain is as follows:
Google Play Music (high quality) > Note 7 > Stock USB OTG adapter > Generic USB Cable > Fiio Q1 > Sennheiser 595

Works fine with my OPPO HA-2 with the USB C OTG adapter. But the USB C to Micro B didn't work with the HA-2's included Micro B to Micro B cable.
Also purchased Monoprice's new 6" USB C to Micro B cable, will update whether or not it works when it arrives.

Jperture said:
Works fine with my OPPO HA-2 with the USB C OTG adapter. But the USB C to Micro B didn't work with the HA-2's included Micro B to Micro B cable.
Also purchased Monoprice's new 6" USB C to Micro B cable, will update whether or not it works when it arrives.
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What cable are you using then? A different micro B to micro B with the adapter that came with the note? I got the HA-2's cable to work using a different adapter usb c adapter I got off Amazon. Problem with that one is my note 7 says it's charging the HA-2.
I bought a usb c male to micro b male off ebay and it didn't work.

USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes

Subscribed. Interested in the solution.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

If you don't mind my asking, why bother?

eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.

brotherj0nes said:
One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02

I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.

sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes

I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016

I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.

I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.

This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.

Mgrev said:
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.

Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0

Did the amazon converter end up working for you?

My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.