[Q] What's missing between Apogee One > Nexus5? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[EDIT] When testing the setup below again it's obvious that the Nexus 5 doesn't detect an audio sorce. It does if I use the same cables connecting the headphone output on iPad Mini to the Nexus 5.
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I need to be able to use Skype in my Nexus5 with an external, phantom powered microphone. It's powered by an Apogee One sound interface that has a headphone output with 30 Ohms impedance. I have the right adapter cables to connect the headphone output with the four pin input on the Nexus 5. But the quality of the sound heard in Skype is terrible. I guess the problem is the impedance. So please advice me on what I have to by and add between the two devices? Preferably something portable and not to expensive.

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[Q] How do I record from an external audio source (Microphone/Line-In)

Hi, I hope you can help me out.
I'm trying to record some audio through the 2-in-1-combo-audio jack.
Everytime I connect an external music player to the transformer via audio jack, the transformer does not recognize that somethign is plugged in, but it thinks I want to use headphones (jack as output).
How can I swith to mic mode (jack as input)? Do I have to use a special asus app or is there a good app in the market that can do this?
Thx in Advance!
I doubt that you be able to do that
Why?
The specifications are very clear:
1 x 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone/Mic-in)
Or do I understand this wrong?
I would guess that it will only recognize the microphone when it is connected via a 2 ring connector like a headset/mic combo. A mic by itself would not have a connection that the hardware could recognize.
I am only theorizing based on my experience with with an iPhone.
Hope you like mono recordings...
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Maybe it can be achieved after 3.1 and with USB?
FletchGeek said:
I would guess that it will only recognize the microphone when it is connected via a 2 ring connector like a headset/mic combo.
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Yeah I think you are right, a member of another forum told me the same, that he plugged in an Apple Iphone Headset and the external mic on the headset worked. I also have such combo headsets with the same plug but they dont work. The internal mic still was still active. Could anyone please try to connect your headset and post if
1) the external mic will work
2) the internal mic gets deactivated.
3) and what headset is beeing used?
THX!
Hope you like mono recordings...
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I will only use it to record voice, so thats ok.
Maybe it can be achieved after 3.1 and with USB?
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Maybe then with additional Accessories, I hope to do this with the standard audio jack, which should be able to do that... at least according to the specs.
Quite possibly it would just need software to work. Since it is in the specs, a headphone/mic combination should work. I noticed tigerdirect was selling a combination headphone/mic as a bundle with the transformer.
You're going to want a 4 pin headset (mic/left/right/ground), which is how modern devices do dual input/output audio. Standard mics are 3 pins (L/R/Ground) just like normal headphones, therefore the hardware cant differentiate. Now the issue may come up on the arrangement of the headset pins. Prior to the iPhone, the standard 4 pin headset was configured in such a way that they would not work as normal headphones in devices that weren't meant to support headsets but Apple (or someone around that time) came along and switched up the order so that a 4 pin headset would be backwards compatible with a 3 pin jack -- a superior setup I say hesitantly, with the only con being that old headsets and new jacks are incompatible and new headphones with old (4 pin) jacks. If Asus is using the old standard, then an iPhone headset would not work and if Asus is using the new standard, then an old headset would not work.
Finally, it works!
I wanted to use an external audio source. You have to connect the cable first to the transformer, and AFTERWARDS connect the other side to the audio source. Only in this order the internal mic becomes deactivated.
If there is any signal on the cable while plugging it in into the Transformer, the internal mic is still active. I've attached my "cable construction".
The side with 4 pins goes into the transformer the 3 pins into a mono audio source (normal Headset Output). This works fine for me since I'm only recording voice (mono channel).
Problem solved!

USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
brotherj0nes said:
One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes
I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016
I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.
I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
Mgrev said:
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.
Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0
Did the amazon converter end up working for you?
My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.

USB C Audio Dongle

Hey all,
I got the Pixel 2 a few days ago and I love it, but there seems to be an issue with the audio dongle sound quality when connected to my car. Usually there's no problem with the dongle using it with headphones of any kind, but in the car (i checked the aux cable, no issues with it on other phones) there is some cracking sounds and the bass is not so clear as it is on other phones or as it is while using the dongle with headphones.
Anyone have an issue with the dongle?
Have you tried any other dongles? The Essential Phone had a higher quality USB C to 3.5 mm dongle compare to the Google dongle. I wish you can buy it. I saw this at Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0778QKKFJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1A7L2TLUUDQ97&psc=1 this might be better than the Google Dongle. I was going to try it to see. Anyone have any experience with this?
I haven't tried anything else, I just got the phone. But I unfortunately bought 3 dongles with it from Google to put on each of my auxiliary devices...
Ok I found out the problem while using the dongle on my brothers Pixel 1. The dongle outputs much more volume than a 3.5mm audio jack, so it's only natural that the bass especially vibrates more and causes this cracking noise. Solution is to decrease the volume on the phone by 1 or 2 levels.

How to connect Pixel 2 to Fiio DAC/AMP?

Looks like the bundled male USB-C to female USB-A adapter's intended purpose is to help users transfer their data from old phone to new Pixel.
However, I have a Fiio Q1 Mark II DAC/AMP that has micro USB as input so I used the bundled USB-C to USB-A adapter to connect my Pixel 2 to this DAC but audio still comes out from the phone's speakers.
How can I output the audio through USB-C? In developer options, I select USB Configuration to "Audio Source" but nothing changed. Or I need to use a USB-C to micro USB cable?
To clarify things, here is my configurations: Pixel 2 <-> bundled USB-C to A adapter <-> normal micro USB cable <-> Fiio DAC <-> Headphones (3.5mm jack)
Thanks.
You should be able to use the combined line-in/line-out port instead of the micro-USB, though this would require you to first use the bundled USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. This is problematic if you're not rooted since the Google DAC has terrible distortion, and can only be fixed with root. The setup would be:
Pixel 2 -> Google USB-C to 3.5mm DAC (digital gain <75%) -> 3.5 male to 3.5 male -> Fiio Q1 DAC using 3.5mm line-in -> Headphones
A USB-C to micro-USB cable may work.
Telperion said:
You should be able to use the combined line-in/line-out port instead of the micro-USB, though this would require you to first use the bundled USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. This is problematic if you're not rooted since the Google DAC has terrible distortion, and can only be fixed with root. The setup would be:
Pixel 2 -> Google USB-C to 3.5mm DAC (digital gain <75%) -> 3.5 male to 3.5 male -> Fiio Q1 DAC using 3.5mm line-in -> Headphones
A USB-C to micro-USB cable may work.
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Thanks for your reply.
I have finally made it work. USB-C peripherals must be connected in order. You need to power on the DAC first, connect the micro USB input then connect the USB-C to the Pixel last so the Pixel would recognize the device on the other end.
Another question raised. I have also tried connecting Fiio DAC to iPhone via micro USB to Lightning cable. It worked instantly. iPhone wouldn't let me adjust volume on the phone. Everything was handled by Fiio. Which I think is the correct way to do it since iPhone is just sending digital signal to the DAC and let it do all the work.
But with the Pixel, I'm still able to adjust volume on the phone. I wonder why the phone could do it since it should not do anything with the digital audio signal. I also would like to know how loud should I set the volume at phone and adjust the rest at the AMP.
Also, Pixel's battery is draining fast! Because USB-C supports charging connected devices. I'm not able to disable USB-C power output. The LED light on Fiio indicates that it's charging. The reason that I didn't want to use Google's USB-C to 3.5mm DAC is because the distortion issue. I believe Fiio DAC is much more powerful and audio quality is better.
BlackMiracle said:
Another question raised. I have also tried connecting Fiio DAC to iPhone via micro USB to Lightning cable. It worked instantly. iPhone wouldn't let me adjust volume on the phone. Everything was handled by Fiio. Which I think is the correct way to do it since iPhone is just sending digital signal to the DAC and let it do all the work.
But with the Pixel, I'm still able to adjust volume on the phone. I wonder why the phone could do it since it should not do anything with the digital audio signal. I also would like to know how loud should I set the volume at phone and adjust the rest at the AMP.
The reason that I didn't want to use Google's USB-C to 3.5mm DAC is because the distortion issue. I believe Fiio DAC is much more powerful and audio quality is better.
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Apple I believe uses a line level, the Pixel's is amplified so you can still control it on the phone.
I'd recommend hopping over the the Pixel 2 XL forum, there are technical details that might answer your question. Objective sound measurements.
Regarding the Google DAC, the distortion goes away below about 75% digital gain. In that chained setup, you'd be looking to send as pure a signal as possible with little to no digital gain to the Fiio, which would then cleanly amplify it for playback.

Low volume using wired earphone

I bought a Pixel USB C to 3.5mm adapter to use my Bose earphones and noticed that the volume is really low even at max setting. I've been using this earphone on my Note 8 & iPhone X (using the Apple 3.5mm adapter} without any issues. I tried 2 other wired earphones with the same low volume issue. Any solution on this.
xlazaruzx said:
I bought a Pixel USB C to 3.5mm adapter to use my Bose earphones and noticed that the volume is really low even at max setting. I've been using this earphone on my Note 8 & iPhone X (using the Apple 3.5mm adapter} without any issues. I tried 2 other wired earphones with the same low volume issue. Any solution on this.
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I guess it's likely a conflict with the audio chip in cable, maybe Essential could add compatibility in a future update???
is this all apps? And phone?
Random have you trieds...
Clear cache/data in the system app MusicFX (probably also some other audio related app you could do same with.
If music only does your player have an alt decoder and/or a reset decoder button like in Blackplayer or an alt equaliser?
or maybe even disable usb audio routing (in developer options)
I was just about to buy one also, so thanks for posting, hope you find a solution.
xlazaruzx said:
I bought a Pixel USB C to 3.5mm adapter to use my Bose earphones and noticed that the volume is really low even at max setting. I've been using this earphone on my Note 8 & iPhone X (using the Apple 3.5mm adapter} without any issues. I tried 2 other wired earphones with the same low volume issue. Any solution on this.
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I think I've seen others share the same issue with the Pixel adapter too. It's just not a good adapter, from what I've read. The market is a total mess too. Not many options to begin with, only adapters with a built-in DAC will work, and there's little info to determine what to expect from what you buy. I guess an ideal adapter might be one that also includes an amp.

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