pixel 3 desktop mode - Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers

Any chance that the desktop mode on android q be supported by pixel 3? Knowing that there is no HDMI out for pixel 3, would Google be able to enable HDMI out via a software update? Alternatively, can we use casting to enable the desktop mode on a secondary display with a Chromecast?

Now that Android 10 is available on Pixel 3 and 3 XL, can someone try a USB-C to HDMI adapter with Android 10 update to see if Google has activated HDMI over USB-C for Desktop Mode ? Thank you in advance guys ?

Disappointing, doesn’t do anything here. Never heard anything again about Desktop mode, except of the beginning of beta1.

@trinec it does work on OnePlus 7, 7 Pro and Essential Phone since Android 10 update, you just have to enable 'Force desktop mode' in Developer Settings, restart the phone and plug a USB-C to HDMI adapter
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/04/essential-phone-oneplus-7-pro-desktop-modes-android-10

booldega said:
@trinec it does work on OnePlus 7, 7 Pro and Essential Phone since Android 10 update, you just have to enable 'Force desktop mode' in Developer Settings, restart the phone and plug a USB-C to HDMI adapter
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/04/essential-phone-oneplus-7-pro-desktop-modes-android-10
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Enabled it, pluged it into a usb-c hdmi adapter: didn't do anything.
On the Oneplus 7 it seems to be pretty bad compared to Samsung Dex. So we are only missing out on google style alpha version of a desktop mode.

Thank you @madphone ! All Pixel smartphones (1, 1XL, 2, 2XL, 3, 3XL) have USB 3 except 3a and 3a XL which have USB 2 so Google could activate USB-C to HDMI support with a simple OTA update like LG did with Android 9 update on LG G7, V35 and V40 but they don't, for sure they want you to buy a chromecast but it has a way too high input lag in comparison to USB-C to HDMI adapters. Maybe it could be enabled with an alternative ROM but more and more Android smartphones are becoming compatible with HDMI adapters, soon all Android flagships will support HDMI except Pixels. High end smartphone (price) with low end capabilities, I think that's an enough reason for not buying it.
If you want an improved Desktop Mode on OnePlus 7 more similar to Samsung Dex you can install Sentio Desktop https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sentio.desktop

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USB-C to HDMI Adapter

Hey all.
Anyone know whether USB to HDMI is possible with the Honor 8? If so, any recommendations?
Honestly, good luck finding a phone that supports either HDMI-AltMode or DisplayPort-AltMode. I don't believe there's a single non-Windows Phone 10 device that does.
Sorry to crush your dreams. I'm still waiting on Google to enable it on the Pixel C, like they claimed they would ages ago.
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...I don't believe there's a single non-Windows Phone 10 device that does...
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I mean, I was able to output to HDMI using a slim-port adapter with my Nexus 5; I used to use it all the time with my mini projector while traveling.
It doesn't seem that improbable.
Dis3ngage said:
I mean, I was able to output to HDMI using a slim-port adapter with my Nexus 5; I used to use it all the time with my mini projector while traveling.
It doesn't seem that improbable.
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MHL is very different than Type-C AltModes
I have yet to see a phone (outside of Continuum enabled devices) with support for altmodes, and Type-C doesn't have MHL support.
Lg G5 has this feature. I guess it's the only Android smartphone with the usb type C-Hdmi enabled.
Yeah, even though the port is usbC shaped, it's still a micro usb controller.
As far as I know the Pixel is the only phone with an actual USB-C and 3.0 supported port, but there may be others.
HTC 10 support display-port interface over it's usb-c port.

PH-1 has Alternate Mode over Type C = watch movies over USB to a monitor

I just tested for Alternate mode over Type-C, to test for audio and video over DisplayPort. BINGO!
What we need
1. Essential PH-1 phone - Android version 7.1.1 - with screen rotation enabled on the phone
i. Tap and hold on the Home Screen
ii. Click - Settings
iii. Enable "Allow Home screen rotation"
i. Settings - Display - When device is rotated - Rotate the contents of the screen
2. USB Type C 3.1 cable capable of 5 amps support (can supply up to 100W power)
see https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/eqJQbujcikq
May or may not work with a Type C 3.1 cable capable of only 3 amps. Don't have a cable to try.
Will not work with a Type C USB 2.0 cable - typical charging cable - not enough wires in the cable
I believe there is total of 6 different USB Type C cables available, the 3 listed below, with either 3 amp or 5 amp features
i. USB 2.0
ii. USB 3.1 Gen 1 - up to 5 Gbps
iii. USB 3.1 Gen 2 - up to 10 Gbps
3. A monitor with a USB Type-C 3.1 input - LG 4K Ultrafine Monitor
Don't have any knowledge, with respect to Thunderbolt 3 input monitors
e.g. LG 5k Ultrafine Monitor
Not all phones have a USB Type C with 3.1, Gen 1 or Gen 2. Most have only USB Type C 2.0 - cheaper components
Enjoy!
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
SquireSCA said:
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
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Yes it does. I even tested a USB-C --> VGA cable at work the other day and it worked fine.
Anyone got a link to a USB-C-->HDMI connector that they know works with this phone?
That was a real bummer with the Pixel line, that they don't support HDMI output at all. I am glad that this one does. Now I just need to know which connector to buy from Amazon...
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I just ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07519HH4H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I will let you guys know how it works.
This phone just keeps aging better and better, company did things right with the hardware. Very good news
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Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
SquireSCA said:
Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
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Thanks; looks ideal for short uses only as you can't charge simultaneously.
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Essential PH-1 with Samsung Dex Station
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded for this phone to easily rival my S8 in overall functionality and performance. The Sentio app I am using now is good - but not 100% there yet as it doesn't handle the screen properly due to the camera notch ... and the DPI settings are a bit wonky - but do work.
LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded
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Auxens OXI looks pretty sweet. Is someone working on a Lineage port w/Auxens OXI or is that just a wish list request?
This will come in handy watching Vanced YouTube without ads
If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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Yeah I bought the Belinda USB c HDMI adapter as linked to from Amazon and it works for like 2 minutes but then randomly cuts off totally. I'm unfortunately on Oreo b3.
Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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I use a Samsung adapter regularly at work to stream TV on my lunch break to a TV. Used it on Nougat and on Pie
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
mikemilos said:
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
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Pie does support it. If you have access to another adapter, I'd test it on the Essential. My PH-1 had faulty hardware preventing HDMI output last spring. I had to get it replaced to get it to work.

Will HDMI to USB-C adapters work with the OnePlus 6

I saw that the OnePlus 5T doesn't support HDMI to USB-C adapters, but maybe this has changed with the OnePlus 6? Is there any other way to connect the phone to your monitor? Cheers!
Chromecast
I don't think it support usb-c to hdmi, that the reason it prevent me getting op6. According to gsmarena' s specs it use the slow usb 2.0 type c. I want to play emulators on big screen so casting doesn't cut it. On ly a few flagships from Huawei, Samsung, LG, Google support usb type c 3.1
nope just tested it, doesn't work.
If is real ! It's a bad news !!!
Any solution ?
use displaylink adapters. have a look at the op5 section on xda. its discussed there and there are good solutions. usb 2.0 sucks anyway. will wait for the next gereration and hope they change the usb chip

Does one plus 8t have video out through usb c ?

I know that the one plus 8t has usb c 3.1 port but does it support video out ? And I’m not talking video out with those adapters that will make any phone have a display output , I’m talking about native display out from the phone using either a compliant usb c to usb c to a monitor that supports usb c or with hdmi like Samsung newer smartphones , thanks in advance
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I know that the one plus 8t has usb c 3.1 port but does it support video out ? And I’m not talking video out with those adapters that will make any phone have a display output , I’m talking about native display out from the phone using either a compliant usb c to usb c to a monitor that supports usb c or with hdmi like Samsung newer smartphones , thanks in advance
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I have never owned a usb-c monitor, but my laptop is one of those thin ones that doesn't have many ports. and so a while ago I bought a cheap dongle off of amazon that is basically a usb-c hub with hdmi, usb-a and a charging usb-c passthrough, and this works perfectly with the oneplus 8t. The only issue I have is that the tall screen mirroring onto a 16:9 display means black bars on the top and bottom. My mate also has a direct usb-c to hdmi cable (basically has the dongle components built in to the cable ends), and this works fine too with my 8t, although a dongle is preferred so you can charge at the same time.
As I said, I don't have direct experience with a usb-c monitor, but logic follows that if the monitor supports usb-c video in, and the oneplus 8t supports video out over usb-c, then you should be away.
I believe there's an experimental desktop mode available too - go into developer options, scroll down to the apps subheading (nearly at the bottom) and there should be a Force Desktop Mode toggle. I tinkered once with it, and it reminded me a bit of Samsung's dex, but as I have a real laptop, I use that instead.
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I have never owned a usb-c monitor, but my laptop is one of those thin ones that doesn't have many ports. and so a while ago I bought a cheap dongle off of amazon that is basically a usb-c hub with hdmi, usb-a and a charging usb-c passthrough, and this works perfectly with the oneplus 8t. The only issue I have is that the tall screen mirroring onto a 16:9 display means black bars on the top and bottom. My mate also has a direct usb-c to hdmi cable (basically has the dongle components built in to the cable ends), and this works fine too with my 8t, although a dongle is preferred so you can charge at the same time.
As I said, I don't have direct experience with a usb-c monitor, but logic follows that if the monitor supports usb-c video in, and the oneplus 8t supports video out over usb-c, then you should be away.
I believe there's an experimental desktop mode available too - go into developer options, scroll down to the apps subheading (nearly at the bottom) and there should be a Force Desktop Mode toggle. I tinkered once with it, and it reminded me a bit of Samsung's dex, but as I have a real laptop, I use that instead.
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Thank you ! Is there a way to remove those black bars by creating a custom aspect ratio or resolution when the phone is rooted ? also what about the resolution , refresh rate and input lag , Does it support at least 1080p 60hz and low enough input lag for gaming ?

Question Ethernet Hub for Pixel 7 Pro

I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I haven't been able to get anything to work with stability on either of my two docks so I don't have a large enough selection to make a definitive statement on the support, but the farthest I've gotten is using my dock that has an RTL8153A-4. It will work for a bit, but when pushing enough data it'll end up resetting. Hits up to 400Mbps but then it drops out. That's par for the course with early RTL8153 chips. It's also a terrible dock and the seller has been banned from Amazon for one reason or another, so can add that on too.
On the other hand I have a more modern Yottamaster NVMe dock that I use with my Steam Deck and it works great. Surprisingly, it is almost fully functional on my phone except for display (obviously know why) and Ethernet. It's using the RTL8153B-2, but I can't get any data to pass over it. The r8152 kernel driver reports that it can't load the firmware, because the phone doesn't have any firmware from linux-firmware outside of what is needed for the hardware internally. Both the kernel driver and Ethernet system report when a cable is connected and the carrier is on, but nothing makes it over the cable.
The first dock you linked also has an RTL8153, so at this point I'm guessing newer revision RTL8153 support is just broken on the phones without the ability to load firmware for them. The second dock you linked inspires some confidence that it will have an AX88178 controller in it, but I've looked at docks recently on Amazon and ones that list AX88178/AX88179 are apparently silently subbing them out for the RTL8153 according to reviews. You're going to have to plug it in to your computer to check what the Ethernet controller shows up as.
Best course of action I can see is to either try to find a dock with an AX88178 in it if your second dock actually has an RTL8153 in it, or get an older USB 2.0 RTL8152 adapter since those are more reliable although that restricts you to 10/100.
It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
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It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
bing321 said:
I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
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RTL8153B-2, interesting that it doesn't have any issues.
I found an adapter that works: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGHKLSPG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details It is gigabit, with power port. It works without its power plugged in and the phone upside down on the powered pixel stand. I would still like to buy a real hub with gigabit ethernet for the P7P, if someone finds one.
This Anker one works just fine
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This Anker one works just fine
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That meets most of my specs. The problem is only 4k 30hz HDMI. If I want to use it with a 4k 60hz device that can use the HDMI output, (obviously not the crippled Pixel line) I would be downgrading.

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