I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 and it was cold as ice.
I have both versions of S22 Ultra, Exy and Snap and they are both pretty much hotter when I use them.
Any way to have them cool and cold?
Thanks in advance
/CK
Café King said:
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 and it was cold as ice.
I have both versions of S22 Ultra, Exy and Snap and they are both pretty much hotter when I use them.
Any way to have them cool and cold?
Thanks in advance
/CK
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changing the screen resolution from wqhd+ to fhd+ or hd+ will help, but of course your sacrificing quality
gav83collins said:
changing the screen resolution from wqhd+ to fhd+ or hd+ will help, but of course your sacrificing quality
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Will give it a go and see. Thanks.
/CK
Café King said:
I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 and it was cold as ice.
I have both versions of S22 Ultra, Exy and Snap and they are both pretty much hotter when I use them.
Any way to have them cool and cold?
Thanks in advance
/CK
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How hot do they get? What are you doing when they get hot? CPU/GPU intensive tasks like gaming or photo/video editing will cause it to heat up. Those types of tasks require more power from the battery. That extra power requirement causes the battery to produce more heat.
If you are not doing CPU/GPU intensive tasks, it is possible an app is the culprit. You can go into Battery and device care (Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery), click on the graph and you can see what apps are drawing the most power. There are plenty of apps out there that are needless power hogs.
It is also not a fair comparison between your previous Z Fold 3 and your current S22 Ultras.
Same issue with my mobile s22 sd. My device gets hot instantly when using camera.
Go to the Galaxy store, and get Samsung Guardians, enable Thermal Guardian and you can choose to throttle the system when the temperature raises, also manages the 5G antenna, the Refresh rate and more.
mrjoy said:
Same issue with my mobile s22 sd. My device gets hot instantly when using camera.
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That is not normal. I have the SD version and it hasn't gotten hot, for any reason. What other apps are you running? Many of them are slapdash and use more CPU and battery than needed. If one of those is running in the background, it could cause a heating problem when you use the camera, since the camera can be CPU/GPU intensive.
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I got the unlocked S22ultra and I get only 5hrs SOT. For a 5000mAH battery that's very bad compared to iPhone 13 pro max. Does anyone has any suggestions ? Do you have any resolutions? Please don't tell me to turn off features /apps to get good battery.
Exynos versión?
debloated?
Debloat LISTS - S22 Ultra Series
Hey everyone, figure i start a thread on apps/etc that can be safely disabled, so that we can dial on on removing needless junk from our phones. I am currently running a Snapdragon S22 Ultra, SM-S908U 512GB (AT&T variant) so my list may vary...
forum.xda-developers.com
Turn off features/apps to get good battery.
You will never get close to the 13 pro max SOT no matter how much you debloat, turn off features/ apps or any other gimmicks one can think off. The 13 pro max is in a whole different league.
Two things that worked for me on Snap Dragon is use FHD Resolution instead of WQHD and turn off mobile data when your on a WIFI network and don't need it. 5G Cellular seems put a lot of drain on the battery. When I am at home I have 5G WIFI so I just turn mobile off.
Try this workaround without disabling anything: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-news-discussion-thread.4399385/post-86730157
but S22 Ultra has bigger and brighter display so can't really compare to IP13PM..
saurabhrupji said:
I got the unlocked S22ultra and I get only 5hrs SOT. For a 5000mAH battery that's very bad compared to iPhone 13 pro max. Does anyone has any suggestions ? Do you have any resolutions? Please don't tell me to turn off features /apps to get good battery.
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Don't compare to iCrap. It's easy for them to optimize their phones due to their jailed garden approach.
hi how come my s22U overheats easily for anything? maximum peak reaching around 35 ° exynos
It's an Exynos, get used to this...
robi101012981 said:
È un Exynos, abituati a questo...
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other users don't notice this
DrRazee95 said:
other users don't notice this
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what are those ,,other users"? I think only 5% of the Exynos owners won this lottery. I mean, this is a failed chipset and Sammy doesn't want to recognize this, or at least give us the ability to purchase a Snapdragon version.
DrRazee95 said:
hi how come my s22U overheats easily for anything? maximum peak reaching around 35 ° exynos
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35 is not high, to my mind. Around 39 i tend to notice it. But it rarely happens to go that high, usually around 36/37. Maybe if I'm charging and playing it will go high
DrRazee95 said:
hi how come my s22U overheats easily for anything? maximum peak reaching around 35 ° exynos
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When Samsung developed the Exynos 2200 it was supposed to power the central core clockspeed at 1.9GHz. After they finalized development (or possibly before they finalized development) they discovered any speed over 1.34 GHz generated unacceptable overheating. Instead of re-engineering the SoC they decide to throttle the crap out of it. In the meantime they've been tampering with the other cores in an attempt to find an acceptable balance. I would submit to date those efforts have failed. Welcome to the wonderful world of Exynos!
DrRazee95 said:
hi how come my s22U overheats easily for anything? maximum peak reaching around 35 ° exynos
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make some test please
make factory reset and dont install anything - is it still heating?
disable cellular overnight - is it still heating?
enable cellular, but disable data & wifi - is it still heating?
enable cellular, data off, enable wifi - is it still heating?
varcor said:
When Samsung developed the Exynos 2200 it was supposed to power the central core clockspeed at 1.9GHz. After they finalized development (or possibly before they finalized development) they discovered any speed over 1.34 GHz generated unacceptable overheating. Instead of re-engineering the SoC they decide to throttle the crap out of it. In the meantime they've been tampering with the other cores in an attempt to find an acceptable balance. I would submit to date those efforts have failed. Welcome to the wonderful world of Exynos!
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And I don't understand why people are still buying devices with Exynos from Samsung..Only because it's a Samsung? Don't get me wrong, I would go instantly to Huawei if they would have again GMS, because I really loved my P30 Pro, but without GMS my only alternative it's Samsung since other brands are having a lot of things that annoy me.
Welcome to Exynos !
btw, 35 isn't high. my a3 usually heats up at 40-60 (when playing games) and also has an exynos processor (Exynos 7580)
Get Good Guardians and install Thermal Guardian.
It will let you change the thermal profile, like if you are in a hot day or cold place. Also logs all the apps that might warm your device, then you can turn problem apps off or set more battery savings aka less power, aka less temp.
i found when converting .vob to .mp4 on the device it gets very hot, but of course that is quite an intensive task, i would be interested to know how a snapdragon version handles that
Snapdragon!! Very useful to Cook egs, with exynos in the last ten years and for note (with s22) never seen a minimal rise in temperature
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
All those social media apps aren't helping... I never allow any on my devices for a number of reasons including security.
check this thread, also make sure you have 5G disabled (enable when you need it) but having %g enabled really hits battery, https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...e-battery-performance-stability-heat.4376755/ I used much of the stuff on this thread and I'm getting 8 to 10 hrs SoT and 2 to 3 days between charges.
while you using this trash apps like FB, ingram, twitter, snapchat which are wakes-up your modem every 3 seconds to download useless update what your friends eat in restorants you will continue getting that bad battery time...
use ADB APP control app and remove all preinstalled apps which is spying on your phone
Debloat LISTS - S22 Ultra Series
Hey everyone, figure i start a thread on apps/etc that can be safely disabled, so that we can dial on on removing needless junk from our phones. I am currently running a Snapdragon S22 Ultra, SM-S908U 512GB (AT&T variant) so my list may vary...
forum.xda-developers.com
techie users can use PCAPdroid to see why your phone is drain battery
Iyad22 said:
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
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Settings _ HD+ , 60HZ.
[email protected] said:
Settings _ HD+ , 60HZ.
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That will help; how much so be interesting to know. However I don't think that's the only cause of the excessive power consumption.
Social media apps suck battery on any phone they are on... especially if using 5G rather than 4G as Jostian pointed out.
Also display brightness really matters too. 30-40% is best, use manual brightness control.
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Settings _ HD+ , 60HZ.
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I bought a 2k display and 120 hz so i wont use them?
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That will help; how much so be interesting to know. However I don't think that's the only cause of the excessive power consumption.
Social media apps suck battery on any phone they are on... especially if using 5G rather than 4G as Jostian pointed out.
Also display brightness really matters too. 30-40% is best, use manual brightness control.
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Dude im using 4g and lighy use i had the s21 ultra before and i get aroung 5 h with heavy use and 6 to 7h with light use . This is not good at all . I had the 13 pro max for days and i had 10h sot
Iyad22 said:
I bought a 2k display and 120 hz so i wont use them?
Dude im using 4g and lighy use i had the s21 ultra before and i get aroung 5 h with heavy use and 6 to 7h with light use . This is not good at all . I had the 13 pro max for days and i had 10h sot
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I ain't no dude...
The really funny part is my N10+ gets better SOT than both of those. I use the hell out of 4G.
You are what you load nonetheless still pertains to your current dilemma. The S22U's hardware is more optimized for gaming it seems. Ironically Samsung deliberately throttle this at first.
High refresh rates are no big deal as far as I'm concerned but doubt that 60hz would even yield a 10% power savings, but you don't know until you try. Using the highest resolution also will eat another couple percent.
Lol, I keep Google play Services disabled most times for an extra 2%@SOT.
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Also display brightness really matters too. 30-40% is best, use manual brightness control.
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Hello Blackhawk. I wonder if it makes a lot of difference between 30-40% manually and auto brightness. Did you compare that? Is it the sensor that makes the difference in battery usage when using auto brightness?
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Hello Blackhawk. I wonder if it makes a lot of difference between 30-40% manually and auto brightness. Did you compare that? Is it the sensor that makes the difference in battery usage when using auto brightness?
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Auto brightness doesn't know how bright you need it to be. Many times it's too bright and that isn't beneficial for your retinas or battery life.
Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.
pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat
malikin said:
pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat
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No case and no social Media Apps only WhatsApp...
Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!
Goku1992 said:
Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!
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EXYNOS hot - head
Griffin7296 said:
EXYNOS hot - head
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The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....
Goku1992 said:
The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....
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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere
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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere
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Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!
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Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!
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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!
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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!
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Okay mate then its fine. Hope someone can tell me if konabess is working on rooted s22u...
25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.
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Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.
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I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long
Tearm said:
I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long
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Thanks mate snapdragon? Do you have a custom kernel? S22 ultra? Sorry for the questions
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25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.
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Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...
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Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...
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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.
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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.
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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)
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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)
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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.
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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.
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Mate the Ambient temp. The cpu itself is 40-50 then... 25would be nice and cool...
One or more of your apps is using more power than they should. You're going to have to figure out which.
I haven't rooted or debloated. I have social media apps installed and running. I was at the Blue Angels airshow last weekend. Even being on a hot tarmac with no shade it was working fine shooting video and photos with no overheating or stuttering. It was around 31-32C in direct sunlight the whole time.
Ive already factory resetet the phone. There isnt app. Then u are using the amazing snapdragon 8 gen 2 prototyp s23u from Samsung. The 8gen 1 is a hothead. Its confirmed. 31-32°C cpu temp in direct sunlight is impossible. Even the battery is a bit hotter then....
Here an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/rn1ffg
And Millions more if you Google snapdragon 8 gen 1. So please stop now. Only wanted to tame it a bit cause optimzing isnt bad.
The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
With the case on, when charging it reaches 40 degrees. But otherwise it's... Ok I guess?
Summer is coming and he's going to be hot, using a Pixel in China.
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My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
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Thank you!!!
Great, I had to test this. I have the Battery Guru, and I have set the temperature to 30 but it always prompts, even when I am using it for minimal work. Can you share some performance benchmarks, either with Battery Guru or Better Battery Stats? and the source on github?
Great i want to test
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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Data to prove that the efficiency of G2 is poor? Sure, sir.
This shows Tensor G1, and Tensor G2 introduced an additional X1 core (2x X1 cores) and didn't improve the efficiency much apart from being slightly more efficient since it's based on 4nm.
So, long story short, G2 is somewhere between Exynos 2100 and 888 when it comes to efficiency and neither of these two mentioned is really efficient.
Pixel 4's SD855 is more efficient than both Pixel 6 and 7. lol
There is plenty of power measurement data and how the SOC behaves under load, feel free to research.
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The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
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mind posting the correction of values? at what temp it starts to throttle? is something else tweaked as well? im too lazy to look at the code myself lol
Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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No lag, stuttering or freezing. No issues with charging. Temperature stays lower than normally, for example while using chrome or other browser temperature used to spike up to 60-65° within few minutes but now it's down to 50-55°. I didn't notice any change in battery life.
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temperature used to spike up to 60-65
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How did you measure?
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Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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I'm also curious to know what performance gains or battery efficiencies Pixel phones have with their 'clean' software.
5 second delay in the camera app when changing from photo to video or changing from back camera to front...
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Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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@fenibook , can you add any conditions to the module so it's inactive when the phone is charging either reorh cable or wirelessly?
For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
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Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
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AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
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AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
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The brightness bar from quick panel works OK or gets stuck when you slide it?!