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Heating issue explained (sorta)

So there are lot of questions about people asking if this heats up or not mostly by people who want to buy this phone nywas there answer is "YES" it heats but its like only the tip of the iceberg i have used lot of mid range and some high end phones before and believe me every phone heats now and then depends on the tasks you perform so is this with this phone but main reason this phone heats up are
1. Snapdragon 615 the 8 core processor is a beast in snapdragon 600 series but with great power comes great responsibility running 8 cores simply means a lot of work so yes if ur playing a game or something that actually uses 8 cores the phone will heat up more compared to a 4 core processor(do the math).
2.Compact motherboard you have to understand that the phone is remarkably slim and compact.
The above are the two main reasons due to which this phone might be getting a little warm. But that doesnt mean this is only phone in the world that heats up the above mentioned are only reasons for this phone
My experience with the phone..
Yes it get got hot during games but believe me it didnt surprise me because the other phones i have used got hot too. And when i say hot i dont mean hot as in a freshly baked cake hot but you can tell its hot (kinda hot)

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1st point is BS
ruffain said:
So there are lot of questions about people asking if this heats up or not mostly by people who want to buy this phone nywas there answer is "YES" it heats but its like only the tip of the iceberg i have used lot of mid range and some high end phones before and believe me every phone heats now and then depends on the tasks you perform so is this with this phone but main reason this phone heats up are
1. Snapdragon 615 the 8 core processor is a beast in snapdragon 600 series but with great power comes great responsibility running 8 cores simply means a lot of work so yes if ur playing a game or something that actually uses 8 cores the phone will heat up more compared to a 4 core processor(do the math).
2.Compact motherboard you have to understand that the phone is remarkably slim and compact.
The above are the two main reasons due to which this phone might be getting a little warm. But that doesnt mean this is only phone in the world that heats up the above mentioned are only reasons for this phone
My experience with the phone..
Yes it get got hot during games but believe me it didnt surprise me because the other phones i have used got hot too. And when i say hot i dont mean hot as in a freshly baked cake hot but you can tell its hot (kinda hot)
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FYI its not a true octa core phone which means that all the 8 cores never simultaneously work together. The processor is a combination of 4 low power cores for balanced performance and four high power cores for gaming and intensive tasks. They switch as and when required. So your "math" is complete bull ****. However everything else is sane and meaningful. It will be a pity if you bought the phone thinking that the 8 cores work together considering the fact that there exists true Octa core phones in which all the 8 cores really work together.

ruffain said:
So there are lot of questions about people asking if this heats up or not mostly by people who want to buy this phone nywas there answer is "YES" it heats but its like only the tip of the iceberg i have used lot of mid range and some high end phones before and believe me every phone heats now and then depends on the tasks you perform so is this with this phone but main reason this phone heats up are
1. Snapdragon 615 the 8 core processor is a beast in snapdragon 600 series but with great power comes great responsibility running 8 cores simply means a lot of work so yes if ur playing a game or something that actually uses 8 cores the phone will heat up more compared to a 4 core processor(do the math).
2.Compact motherboard you have to understand that the phone is remarkably slim and compact.
The above are the two main reasons due to which this phone might be getting a little warm. But that doesnt mean this is only phone in the world that heats up the above mentioned are only reasons for this phone
My experience with the phone..
Yes it get got hot during games but believe me it didnt surprise me because the other phones i have used got hot too. And when i say hot i dont mean hot as in a freshly baked cake hot but you can tell its hot (kinda hot)
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So you just mean to say that all other phones with this processor heats so that gives Xiaomi a lame excuse for heating.
If they are aware of the extreme heating problems of the processor, why to launch such a lowly device in the first place.
One should not blame and compare other devices just because you are incapable of producing a good phone.
Shameful act by Xiaomi.

raviprakashji said:
So you just mean to say that all other phones with this processor heats so that gives Xiaomi a lame excuse for heating.
If they are aware of the extreme heating problems of the processor, why to launch such a lowly device in the first place.
One should not blame and compare other devices just because you are incapable of producing a good phone.
Shameful act by Xiaomi.
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No it means dont buy a phone with this processor if ur a power user coz this processors known issues are heating up

shubhstiws said:
FYI its not a true octa core phone which means that all the 8 cores never simultaneously work together. The processor is a combination of 4 low power cores for balanced performance and four high power cores for gaming and intensive tasks. They switch as and when required. So your "math" is complete bull ****. However everything else is sane and meaningful. It will be a pity if you bought the phone thinking that the 8 cores work together considering the fact that there exists true Octa core phones in which all the 8 cores really work together.
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Hey man i guess u didnt read till the end i never said all cores work lol i know how it works i also know no app uses 8 core for real (threading and all) anywas i wrote" if they actually work" i guess u didnt read that part.

shubhstiws said:
its not a true octa core phone which means that all the 8 cores never simultaneously work together
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All 8 cores can be active at the same time. Please check your facts before posting.
Source: 1, 2, 3

my bad :|
stivinnaura said:
All 8 cores can be active at the same time. Please check your facts before posting.
Source: 1, 2, 3
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You are absolutely right, it is established that all 8 cores can be used together, however I am still researching on the fact that how much do we gain on performance by using both the low and high performance cores together (at least for benchmarks and tests). The tools which I am using for benchmarks have a lower resolution rate than the amount of time a core reports to complete a thread and thus the delay.
However apologies for the wrong info, thanks for noticing and correcting.
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Hey man i guess u didnt read till the end i never said all cores work lol i know how it works i also know no app uses 8 core for real (threading and all) anywas i wrote" if they actually work" i guess u didnt read that part.
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Read my reply to stivinnaura

lol sorted

stivinnaura said:
All 8 cores can be active at the same time. Please check your facts before posting.
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current firmware (V 6.5.5) has options for change max.freq. for cores ?
Or only switch between "high perf." and "balanced" modes ?

No manual frequency modes as of yet. Just the in-built PERFORMANCE & INTERACTIVE governor modes. I guess we are all waiting for root.
- Hit Thanks :thumbup: if you found it useful!
- Sent from my Mi 4i

Anyone had doubts between: Xiaomi Mi4C & Asus Zenphone 2 (and can share)?

Hi,
Curretnly i'm on the G3 and i dont like it much.
Thinking on 1 of these:
Xiaomi Mi4C
Asus Zenphone 2
Now, I asking that in Mi 4C Thread bc's i thinking that there is some people that might had this.
What do you think?
Thanks!

It comes down to preference really as I dont really like phones bigger than 5" and xiaomi is quite established. Its got the right size, ir blaster and a good SOC which should get good rom support, cm12.1 already available

Where are you based? The Global version of the Zenphone 2 has band 20 which the Mi 4c doesn't have (may be able to be unlocked manually but I'm doubtful). The Zenphone also has expandable storage which the Mi 4c lacks - you may already be used to this and the larger form factor due to currently using the G3. That said, I've heard (but cannot personally verify) that the Zenphone has erratic battery life and performance in addition to being more expensive than the Mi 4c.

ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!

shabydog said:
ermacwins & wingsfortheirsmiles,
I got used to 5.5" so this is not an issue at all...
I from Israel and LTE bands are 1800 & 2600.
So from my understanding, both of them would work, right?
32gb are more than I need, so the expandable storage is not too important.
If the Zenphone do has erratic battery life and performance, it's a good reason to go for the Mi4C, isn't?
Anyone else suffered or heard on it?
Thanks very much!
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Well, my Mi4C had battery drain. Around 3%/hour on idle with WiFi and 4G all off, so when I woke up a third of my battery was already gone. I ended up fixing it by flashing the international ROM but after that, I've been getting 5 hours of SoT which is great. Can't comment on the battery of the Zenfone.

Regarding the battery problem:
Looks like it could different between your's to anyone else.
I read a review in a site in my country and the person who made the review praise the battery life.
Thanks!

My Mi4c has very good battery life. The same like the z1 compact i had. Other phones i had i charged sometimes more than 2 times a day.

The zenfone 2 has worse battery life, build quality and performance. If you don't mind the SD card and 5" screen then the Mi4C is your phone. Zenfone 3 could be very interesting when (should be kinda soonTM) it gets released though!

Thank you all!
Go for the Mi4C.
P.S: A newer model of Mi series also coming soon?

How abt Redmi note 3?

No battery issue with my Mi4C. Left it idle for most part of the day with cellular and Wi-Fi connected the whole time and managed 0.7% / hour idle time. I also have many apps installed (not facebook or any messaging apps though). It's rooted and greenified, running original stable Chinese Miui 7 Rom with some Chinese bloat apps removed. It's also scoring 52K on antutu 6.
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Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!

Having owned both phones i can say the Zen2 is a dud. The screen is dim, the speaker is weak, some apps drain crazy battery as they are using an ARM emulator to run on x86. It wobbles on the desk and the battery dies after your lunch break. The camera has low exposure that makes everything look darker than it is. The Mi4c just works like you expect a flagship to do.

leledumbo said:
Processing power wise, ZenFone 2 (the high end 32 GB internal memory with 4 GB RAM model) is comparable to Mi4C, the GPU is even slightly better. However, when it comes to video recording, ZenFone is waaaaay below Mi4C. The still image, if you use latest firmware, is already fixed though. Note that due to the use of Intel processor, some apps that use native libraries might not be installable. Ensure your apps are architecture-neutral or have both arm and intel version available.
OTOH, Mi4C has thermal issues and I still can't find the best thermal configuration so far. This causes the cores, both CPU and GPU, get shutted down or their upper limit is decreased to lower down the temperature. I break this limit by changing the limit a little bit higher, but if you play games while charging the phone, my best record reaches 90° C. Hot enough for a sleep killer tea
Happy deciding!
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I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.

k3lcior said:
I dont believe in 90° C unless your phone is borked and termal throttling doesnt work, also phone would shut down anyway with that temperature.
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It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.

leledumbo said:
It is, well the screenshot I have is 87 actually in one of the many thermal zone (they're all varying from 60 or so) but during that time I did see and feel 90 (as a hot tea drinker, I know how hot is 90). Thankfully I have a flip cover that absorbs the heat, but if you touch the scree, it's really damn hot. Thermal throttling doesn't work on my device, because I've disabled the thermal driver :cyclops:
I don't really know the actual upper limit, but I guess it should be around 100-120. My PC was 120, but I don't think smartphone's SoC will differ much.
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RIP phone.

k3lcior said:
RIP phone.
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Hahaha, worry not, it's been back to normal temp (30-50). The problem only happens if you play resource intensive games while charging.

My last phone Mi4i also reached ~90°C after playing with the thermal engine. The flashlight turned on in the pocket of my pants and burned for half an hour. I just noticed it because my leg got hotter and hotter luckily the phone wasnt damaged through this. Also, i think the CPU can handle these temperatures without being damaged, but i would worry about other phone components such as SD Card, battery or glued components

Sorry, my antutu 6 score for my Mi4c was 685xx, not 52k.
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mmmh i think xiaomi mi4c only for battery

S7 rooted battery life not too impressive.... how do I get it better?

OK, I have an att galaxy s7 g930a rooted phone. If imy out and about and not by an outlet, my battery is dead by around 6 pm. I'm not really a power user.
Immediately looking at better battery stats which it says since boot, system used 24%, and next is wake lock 6%, then kk launcher at 4%.
For battery optimization, I keep the phone in power saver mode. I also have juice defender ultimate and I run it in balanced mode. I have the setting unselected so the phone does not sync constantly for new emails etc.
I have power toggles and turn off GPS, mobile data, and WiFi when I'm not using it knowing all these transmitters drain the battery. And yet I can't get over 12 hours on a charge.

Try checking the cable n charger see if they are stock charger ..sometimes quick charge doesnt charge the battery properly ...u might need to replace battery if they r good

The battery on an s7 is built in.... not replacable.

It is replaceable u need to a good technician to open up the back using blow dryer type device n then swap the battery its pretty easy

I haven't had the phone a year yet. I really don't believe the battery itself is bad. Almost every situation like this I've seen has been an app draiming the battery... nothing physically wrong with the device.

What screen on time are you getting? What mobile network setting are you using/network are you on? 3G or 4G, if you're on a 3G network make sure it's set to 2G/3G in settings. Try installing gsam battery stats to see if you can identify anything unusual or something that's causing a drain.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

dorlow said:
I haven't had the phone a year yet. I really don't believe the battery itself is bad. Almost every situation like this I've seen has been an app draiming the battery... nothing physically wrong with the device.
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I tend to agree with you. I've recently gone through seven S7's... I've exchanged the previous ones and am currently on my eighth device. Among these phones, it was only the international unlocked variant (SM-G930F) and the US unlocked variant (SM-G930U) that showed rather impressive battery life. I was often able to get 1.5 to 2 days of run time on a single charge from each of those models. The 930F was even better battery-wise than the 930U's, which weren't bad at all. Conversely, the batteries in the carrier variants that I've tried have seemed to deplete far too rapidly - similar to the situation you've described with your phone. My current S7 is an SM-G930P (Sprint variant) and its battery seems to last half as long (or less) than the unlocked S7 variants I've used.
The most generally disturbing thing for me about the GS7 is that there has been one or more significantly undesirable issues that seem exclusive to and inherently present among each of the model variant categories. At least this has appeared the case based upon the S7's that I've personally tested. For me, it seems there is no variant model of this device that's without seriously objectionable issues. However, finding some way to make the carrier-variant batteries last significantly longer would go a long way toward making other said issues more tolerable.

You could try greenify if you got xposed installed. There is another module too, but the name escapes me right now.

dorlow said:
OK, I have an att galaxy s7 g930a rooted phone.
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From what i've read the root method using eng boot for snapdragon phones makes the cpu run at the highest frequency, so yes the battery life will suffer.

peachpuff said:
From what i've read the root method using eng boot for snapdragon phones makes the cpu run at the highest frequency, so yes the battery life will suffer.
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Hmm, so the rooting method for the SD820 equipped S7's effectively overclocks the CPU? Perhaps it changes the multiplier?
The 4 cores on my unrooted SD820 equipped S7's have always idled at 307 MHz, and then spiked up as needed. Do the rooted SD820 equipped S7's idle at a higher clock speed? Or do they simply have a higher maximum clock speed - i.e., beyond 2.15 GHz? Either way, I can see how that would suck the battery down noticeably quicker.

clonk said:
Hmm, so the rooting method for the SD820 equipped S7's effectively overclocks the CPU? Perhaps it changes the multiplier?
The 4 cores on my unrooted SD820 equipped S7's have always idled at 307 MHz, and then spiked up as needed. Do the rooted SD820 equipped S7's idle at a higher clock speed? Or do they simply have a higher maximum clock speed - i.e., beyond 2.15 GHz? Either way, I can see how that would suck the battery down noticeably quicker.
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It has to do with the governor, its apparently set to performance rather than interactive. Check what yours is set to, cpuid app can show you that.

peachpuff said:
It has to do with the governor, its apparently set to performance rather than interactive. Check what yours is set to, cpuid app can show you that.
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Ah, that would be the CPU auto-scaling mechanism, if I'm not mistaken. I think mine's obviously set to interactive since the cores idle at 307 MHz. I'm guessing that if scaling were set to performance mode the cores would be running at full speed instead. And yes, that would drain the battery far quicker! And I sure DON'T need this 930P to drain its battery more rapidly than it already does. I'm currently playing with the debloater app to see if I can make some improvements tha way.

Question Cpu undervolting konabess app

Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.

pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat

malikin said:
pfff....just take a drill and make big holes in your plastic phone case
ps: what is your background processes?
i hope not trashy fb, intagram, snap,twitter apps which wakes up your screen & modem every 10 seconds to show you what your friends eat in restorants? make debloat
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No case and no social Media Apps only WhatsApp...

Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!

Goku1992 said:
Whats this then:
I dont want to bash the phone its amazing but its a small hothead especially with temperatures over 25°Celsius!
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EXYNOS hot - head

Griffin7296 said:
EXYNOS hot - head
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The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....

Goku1992 said:
The snapdragon even more because this year its an overclocked exynos... Yes other Modem ki processor.... But same cores... Samsungs 4nm is bad....
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Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere

Griffin7296 said:
Can't attest to that by my own experience and what I have seen elsewhere
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Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!

Goku1992 said:
Mate my question Was if someone undervoltet or underclocked the 8 gen 1. No fanboys!!
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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!

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Easy chap - no fanboy here. Just reporting experience and observations!
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Okay mate then its fine. Hope someone can tell me if konabess is working on rooted s22u...

25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.

Goku1992 said:
Hello guys. Someone who tried the konabess App on the s22 with snapdragon 8 gen 1? Is it possible to undervolt this thing a bit to lower the heat output? Its hot here in germany (28° Celsius) and the phone become very hot (cpu 50-65°C) just with Surfing the Samsung browser... So looking for a way to tame it a bit.
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I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long

Tearm said:
I made some underclocking by EX Kernel Manager app (cluster 2 max freq 1555, cluster 3 max freq 1843, all clusters regulator is shedutil instead of walt, gpu max freq is 599). As can i say, konabess made simmilar procedure, but by patching boot image, so may be my reaults can answer your question. In my place also in this summer temperature rises to 28-35 celsius, before changing cpu settings phone was sometimes warm when i use it at sunlight, now it less hot and live longer (approx 6hrs of screen with using from 85% to 15%, but for battery life i also put to sleep some apps in settings). At antutu indoor phone is heated up to 34 celsius (before underclocking it was up to 39 celsius). In ui, browsing and camera i cant catch any lag or stutter with these cpu setting about a month so i think it very stable. But in straight sunlight phone still can heated to 45-50 celsius, better not use it in straight sunlight for long
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Thanks mate snapdragon? Do you have a custom kernel? S22 ultra? Sorry for the questions

gernerttl said:
25C is hot? I've been to Germany, that's normal summer weather. That's 77F which is the average year round temp where I live.
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Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...

Goku1992 said:
Mate no it isnt but the phone is when temperatures over 25°C...
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You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.

gernerttl said:
You do realize that body temp is 37C...right. It gets hotter than 25C just by being in your pocket. It isn't outside temperatures causing your problem, it's the app your using.
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Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)

Goku1992 said:
Which app? My phone is mostly debloated. Only Apps i have installed beside the apps the phones comes with are Youtube and WhatsApp. No social Media ****. Please dont comment if you havent a clue what are you talking about. I had many phones in my live (switching a good 6-12 months cause its a Hobby) rooted every phone till the s21u and the s22u and no phone was as hot as this from normal task (browsing with the Samsung browser) so please stop fanboying. It isnt hot like you cant hold it anymore but it could be cooler so im looking for ways to tweak it a bit cause i like tweaking (cause of this reason i debloat my phone, tweak settings i dont use....)
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You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.

gernerttl said:
You specifically mentioned the konabess app. The temp you stated, 25C, is well within the S22 Ultra's operating specs. The normal operating temp for the S22 Ultra is 0-35C.
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Mate the Ambient temp. The cpu itself is 40-50 then... 25would be nice and cool...

One or more of your apps is using more power than they should. You're going to have to figure out which.
I haven't rooted or debloated. I have social media apps installed and running. I was at the Blue Angels airshow last weekend. Even being on a hot tarmac with no shade it was working fine shooting video and photos with no overheating or stuttering. It was around 31-32C in direct sunlight the whole time.

Ive already factory resetet the phone. There isnt app. Then u are using the amazing snapdragon 8 gen 2 prototyp s23u from Samsung. The 8gen 1 is a hothead. Its confirmed. 31-32°C cpu temp in direct sunlight is impossible. Even the battery is a bit hotter then....
Here an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/rn1ffg
And Millions more if you Google snapdragon 8 gen 1. So please stop now. Only wanted to tame it a bit cause optimzing isnt bad.

Development [MOD]Thermal-Throttling-Modifier[Pixel 7 Pro]

Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about what this MOD does before flashing it
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, don't point fingers at me if something goes wrong
*/
Ladies and gentlemen,
A small modification for you with great and HOT results.​
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
Keep in mind that SOC will throttle regardless of when it hits its own TjMax values so you don't need to worry about any "meltdown". lol
- Display won't switch to 60Hz anymore and neither will the maximal possible brightness be reduced as it is normally happening with stock throttling thresholds.
So far I'm using this on EvoX ROM but this should work basically on ANY ROM as the throttling is relying on the same file and as far as I managed to observe (amount of ROMs checked out) it's the same on those ROMs.
Pros:
- Throttling thresholds are drastically increased, meaning if you experienced any HIGH FPS drops during playing any "heavy" games, this will prevent that from happening to an extent and time.
- Any apps that rely on high processing power, will have more space and time to work without being affected by thermal throttling
Cons:
- Depending on your usage and what exactly you do on your phone, the device could get uncomfortably warm in your hands, and battery temperature will raise MORE than you got used to it since the SOC won't be throttled that fast as it does on the stock. Keep in mind that high battery temps are not healthy, and they will cause faster degradation. Degradation occurs anyways, the question is only how fast based on the temps the battery is being exposed to. Many OEMs allow such temps, so, Pixel 7 series with this mod isn't anything different compared to them.
- If you're a heavy "gamer" and play some games like Genshin, TOF, COD (at 120fps), etc... (you'll have a smoother experience (less FPS drops) based on slower/weaker throttling) but I recommend always using a Peltier cooler to keep that battery and the device as cool as possible (regardless if this phone or another).
Why did I create this mod?
I personally use an app called MotionCam Pro. It's basically a RAW video recording app that relies on HIGH processing power (it records RAW DNG frames) and it heats up the device pretty fast, well, Pixel 7 Pro hits the throttling threshold really fast and it's causing the recording to drop A LOT of frames to a point that the footage recorded is not "usable".
With this mod, I can now shoot RAW videos for longer periods with almost no dropped frames and under higher ambient temps. Yes, the phone warms up much more, but it does the JOB for me and that's all that matters to me anyway. I don't care if I'll need to replace my battery after 1 year instead of 2 years because I lost maybe 15-20% of the battery capacity (I upgrade my phones almost yearly).
Have fun frying eggs on your phone.
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​

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JohnTheFarm3r said:
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​
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Thanks for sharing this with us

JohnTheFarm3r said:
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
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Is it possible to change threshold around 41 Celsius? 55 Celsius is quite hard temp for me, but 39 is to low. I think best for me will be around 41 ~ 42. Thanks for reply

Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹

Sasaiber said:
Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹
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There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs

JohnTheFarm3r said:
There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.

Beefheart said:
I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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I have the temperature of the battery itself 27-35 in normal use on lte. Samsung s22 ultra Stays at 25 degrees(((
The hot battery issue was back in the Pixel 6 Pro. In summer, at 27 - 45 degrees when using social networks.
Pixel 7 pro is now - 31 degrees battery at 11 degrees room temperature .
I already have a custom kernel - does not help

Beefheart said:
I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.

Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.

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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.
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So it does happen in idle then.

cant wait for pixel 8 pro with tensor G3 zuma manufactured in 3nm process

Paz9 said:
Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.
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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.

JohnTheFarm3r said:
Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.
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yes dropping frames when using android auto and want to record something is really annoying because phone get 40C while using android auto and you can miss good video while driving

I'm really interested in knowing how you use the MotionCam on Pixel 7 Pro. i tried it and edited the footage with the app itself and it turned out to be super noisy. Any tutorial would be awesome.
Also, do you know if it's possible for Pixel 7 Pro to get DC Dimming?

This is unfortunately not compatible with TD1A.220804.031 - causes phone to hang on G with progress bar

It seems a little counter intuitive, but my phone stays cooler in standby with this mod. I believe it is because it no longer throttles during longer tasks in the background, like photo or DropBox syncs. Of course it also heats up more while gaming, but the performance also doesn't degrade. Thanks for this OP!

@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!

woundman said:
@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!
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You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.

JohnTheFarm3r said:
You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.
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Confirmed working with March update. Thank you.