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myTouch 4G Slide - first impressions

Hi all,
(I just joined today - hope you would go easy on me as I am still learning the xda etiquette.)
Just received my T-mobile HTC myTouch 4G slide and activated it on Sunday.
(Now before I jump onto my first impression of the phone, let me be clear - Till Sunday, I was proud owner of Nokia N900. I still love that phone. But I had to jump onto the Android bangwagor sooner or later since Nokia decided to to WinMo way. N900 was a solid phone with an unpolished/unfinished OS. Nokia never gave it a chance to mature.)
So, please keep in mind that I am new to Android as well as HTC and the phone itself.
Here is what I liked in my one full day of playing with the hardware and the OS/Software:
1. Android is fast, stable and polished, and enough apps to install one every day for rest of my life.
2. Phone is fast, not much stutter, has not crashed yet. Data connection is stable and voice quality is good.
3. UI looks, er, shiny (I do not give much weight to this, but apparently, a lot of people do, given popularity of 'certain' phones).
4. Keyboard is good. (one of the main reasons to buy the phone, as querty keyboard is a must for me )
Now onto negatives:
1. Lack of user control - though I have flexibility in controlling a lot of things on Android, there are a lot of other things which I really want to control but can not - i.e. uninstall t-mo / HCT bloatware (see my next point).
2. Bloatware - this was a shock to me. N900 is a clean device with no crap installed. T-Mo and HTC made sure I start hating my phone on day one by giving me pre-installed uninstallable crap. Not only I do not want them, it actually confuses me. I do not have a dedicated media player - but I have a 'Media Room' with T-Mobile TV and Slacker Radio (and none of them are complete versions). Bejeweled 2, T-mo backup, Highlight, Friend Stream - the list goes on, and I can not remove any of the app.
3. Android - no default file manager. Are you kidding me?
4. Contact - multiple entries from multiple sources (i.e. 411 & more is listed 4 times - one from google, one from tmo backup, one from phone and one from sd card). I know I can link them, or disable view of some of them, but god damn it - it's confusing as hell.
5. Camera - now don't get me wrong. The camera on this phone may be one of the best among Android/iphone phones, but where it gives you a lot of megapixels, the lens (and hence the quality) does not hold water against N900. Software can not make up for hardware limitations.
6. Battery - I almost ran out of juice before I even reached home from work in the evening - and that too from very limited use. Yes, I used phone for quite a bit, but without wireless/gps. I understand the display eats battery, but come on - shouldn't a smartphone be up on batter for one full day?
I will add more as I come across.
Please note that this is not a rant - there is some genuine disappointment with my first real hands on with Android/HTC. With the bloatware on this phone, I feel like I am being take advantage off, and I hate that feeling.
I am a linux user for 12 years (personally and professionally - as a programmer) and I consider myself a power-user (though not anywhere near Guru level), and so far, the phone has not given me even a default file browser.
I really hope to find more positive things to say, as I am committed to Android now that there is hardly any other linux-y OS out there.
Thanks
E

I agree. i havent upgraded since the G1.... i was very excited ... and first hands on was huge disapointment. bloatware, yes, and no skype video ...thats an android issue but none the less the phone seemed very unorganized and i was getting a billion messages from all over the internet with the bloatware subrcribing me to every little notification.

All of your problems except for "Camera issues" will be fixed as soon as S-OFF is available, and dev's will begin porting roms and developing roms. I expect overclocking to be tremendous with this dual core processor, since the mytouch 4g can now be clocked to over 2.0 ghz.
*If you want a file manager download astro from the market.
I forgot whether it requires root or not. If that one does, there are many other file managers just search.

Seems like the judgments are extra harsh and could all be solved by software, unrooting, etc. I'm stoked to be able to overclock to 2 GHz and then some. S-OFF on the MT4GS will be awesome!!!

There are many very good free media players/music players on the market (ex. Tinyplayer) . Same with the file managers, Astro is recommended. That's what the market is there for, as they knew dovelopers could provide the device with excellent applications.
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Can you confirm if google talk video chat works? I've heard it does not support it even though it's 2.3.4 . Thank you.

NAZology said:
Can you confirm if google talk video chat works? I've heard it does not support it even though it's 2.3.4 . Thank you.
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It seems you have heard it right.
Apparently, I did not know:
1. Android 2.3.4 enabled voice/video chat for GTalk app.
2. I certainly did not know HTC/T-MO decided to disable it!
Instead, there is Qik Video Chat app from tmo. For some reason, they think it's equivalent to gtalk? *facepalm*
(Now I hope I am wrong, but I have checked all options on GTalk app, and I do not see either video or audio icon next to my contacts, even if they are available to chat on video).
Let me add that to another negative.

Shaddy-Z. said:
All of your problems except for "Camera issues" will be fixed as soon as S-OFF is available, and dev's will begin porting roms and developing roms. I expect overclocking to be tremendous with this dual core processor, since the mytouch 4g can now be clocked to over 2.0 ghz.
*If you want a file manager download astro from the market.
I forgot whether it requires root or not. If that one does, there are many other file managers just search.
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Thanks. I know it's pretty new device, and mods/root/s-off will be available soon. That's why I have registered here. I was just giving first impression of the stock device. Yes, I have already downloaded Astro (does not require root). Not much impressed, but gets the job done.
unclespoon said:
Seems like the judgments are extra harsh and could all be solved by software, unrooting, etc. I'm stoked to be able to overclock to 2 GHz and then some. S-OFF on the MT4GS will be awesome!!!
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Yes, I know it would get resolved by software/unrooting. That's why I am on this forum. As I said above, these is my first impression of the stock device. And no - I don't think it's harsh at all. Sorry if I came across like that.
aronck said:
There are many very good free media players/music players on the market (ex. Tinyplayer) . Same with the file managers, Astro is recommended. That's what the market is there for, as they knew dovelopers could provide the device with excellent applications.
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Sure there are. But my point is that there are some apps which should come by default on the phone as part of the OS (e.g. Google Search, Contact, Calendar are part of the vanilla Android), and File manager should be at the very top. Anyways, I have already downloaded Astro, and many other apps to play around with it.
I am definitely looking forward to get rid of the software as soon as I can. Otherwise, this baby will have to go back.
Thank you for your comments.

eismcsquare said:
It seems you have heard it right.
Apparently, I did not know:
1. Android 2.3.4 enabled voice/video chat for GTalk app.
2. I certainly did not know HTC/T-MO decided to disable it!
Instead, there is Qik Video Chat app from tmo. For some reason, they think it's equivalent to gtalk? *facepalm*
(Now I hope I am wrong, but I have checked all options on GTalk app, and I do not see either video or audio icon next to my contacts, even if they are available to chat on video).
Let me add that to another negative.
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How about Skype support since no one I know or no one those people know or those people know that know those people uses Gtalk or Qik.

rorytmeadows said:
How about Skype support since no one I know or no one those people know or those people know that know those people uses Gtalk or Qik.
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Skype is audio only. No video support.

I moved from a very old android phone so this phone has so far not been able to truly lag on me.
My last phone was regular android even with stock so that is what I wanted. I'm not one to modify my home screen at all. I like the default black 2.3 look and that's what I want. Not Sense.
The fact that I have to void my warranty just to remove it makes me furious. Of course I could bring it back to none rooted state for that. Regardless I think it's hilarious that a bunch of marketing folks think they know better then I do. Heh.
I've made Android apps before and actually code for a living so it's pretty easy to tell that it's a rushed job. The sense front end has no way to disable contact finding so your phone basically becomes facebook and puts contact suggestions directly into your notifications based on your contacts.
Every single "built in" application then requires you to then agree to the terms of service for that specific application. Things like "KidZone", "Highlight", "T-Mobile Mall", "T-Mobile TV". One of the silliest ones is "doubleTwist" which when opened shows you a splash that asks you to click a "Send Email" button which sends you a link to download the app. It then removes itself off the phone. Sounds like malware to me.
So some company payed off Tmo to put this app on my phone so they can harvest my email. Yay.
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I don't have time for this bull****. Where's my cyanogenmod!!

Akujin said:
I don't have time for this bull****. Where's my cyanogenmod!!
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I'm personally hoping Faux123 cooks us some roms lol

Akujin said:
I don't have time for this bull****. Where's my cyanogenmod!!
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I'm personally hoping Blah and Sparks port PyroMod to the MT4Gs after root and S-Off are achieved. But that's just me, and I like to add as much memory as possible (A2EXT would certainly enable THAT).
Also, to OP, just wait until root is available and you'll see just how amazing Android can be. I recommend OI File Manager for a default one (this is the one preinstalled on Cyanogenmod-based ROMs). I switched to this one after too many buggy Astro updates and they started with ad-supported versions.

eismcsquare said:
Hi all,
(I just joined today - hope you would go easy on me as I am still learning the xda etiquette.)
Just received my T-mobile HTC myTouch 4G slide and activated it on Sunday.
(Now before I jump onto my first impression of the phone, let me be clear - Till Sunday, I was proud owner of Nokia N900. I still love that phone. But I had to jump onto the Android bangwagor sooner or later since Nokia decided to to WinMo way. N900 was a solid phone with an unpolished/unfinished OS. Nokia never gave it a chance to mature.)
So, please keep in mind that I am new to Android as well as HTC and the phone itself.
Here is what I liked in my one full day of playing with the hardware and the OS/Software:
1. Android is fast, stable and polished, and enough apps to install one every day for rest of my life.
2. Phone is fast, not much stutter, has not crashed yet. Data connection is stable and voice quality is good.
3. UI looks, er, shiny (I do not give much weight to this, but apparently, a lot of people do, given popularity of 'certain' phones).
4. Keyboard is good. (one of the main reasons to buy the phone, as querty keyboard is a must for me )
Now onto negatives:
1. Lack of user control - though I have flexibility in controlling a lot of things on Android, there are a lot of other things which I really want to control but can not - i.e. uninstall t-mo / HCT bloatware (see my next point).
2. Bloatware - this was a shock to me. N900 is a clean device with no crap installed. T-Mo and HTC made sure I start hating my phone on day one by giving me pre-installed uninstallable crap. Not only I do not want them, it actually confuses me. I do not have a dedicated media player - but I have a 'Media Room' with T-Mobile TV and Slacker Radio (and none of them are complete versions). Bejeweled 2, T-mo backup, Highlight, Friend Stream - the list goes on, and I can not remove any of the app.
3. Android - no default file manager. Are you kidding me?
4. Contact - multiple entries from multiple sources (i.e. 411 & more is listed 4 times - one from google, one from tmo backup, one from phone and one from sd card). I know I can link them, or disable view of some of them, but god damn it - it's confusing as hell.
5. Camera - now don't get me wrong. The camera on this phone may be one of the best among Android/iphone phones, but where it gives you a lot of megapixels, the lens (and hence the quality) does not hold water against N900. Software can not make up for hardware limitations.
6. Battery - I almost ran out of juice before I even reached home from work in the evening - and that too from very limited use. Yes, I used phone for quite a bit, but without wireless/gps. I understand the display eats battery, but come on - shouldn't a smartphone be up on batter for one full day?
I will add more as I come across.
Please note that this is not a rant - there is some genuine disappointment with my first real hands on with Android/HTC. With the bloatware on this phone, I feel like I am being take advantage off, and I hate that feeling.
I am a linux user for 12 years (personally and professionally - as a programmer) and I consider myself a power-user (though not anywhere near Guru level), and so far, the phone has not given me even a default file browser.
I really hope to find more positive things to say, as I am committed to Android now that there is hardly any other linux-y OS out there.
Thanks
E
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You say you are a Linux developer, and you are complaining about bloatware? You are kidding right?

Android1126 said:
You say you are a Linux developer, and you are complaining about bloatware? You are kidding right?
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Please. Read the title of the post first.

I just realized something: Why hasn't the hacking/development community made a "status of root update" thread for the Doubleshot the way they did for the Vision? Permaroot and S-OFF are what's really holding me back from getting this device (PyroMod 2.3.5's speedy boot time on the Vision actually DOES rival that of dual-core phones, so I'm in no hurry to get it; I'm just asking why there isn't one).

blackknightavalon said:
I just realized something: Why hasn't the hacking/development community made a "status of root update" thread for the Doubleshot the way they did for the Vision? Permaroot and S-OFF are what's really holding me back from getting this device (PyroMod 2.3.5's speedy boot time on the Vision actually DOES rival that of dual-core phones, so I'm in no hurry to get it; I'm just asking why there isn't one).
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You could make it?

S7 Edge Android 7.0 (Nougat) Performance Guide

Some of this guide may apply to Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) as well. I've honestly forgotten what 6.0 was like since I have been on the 7.0 beta for so long, but some of this is possible on the older software.
So the reason I decided to make this guide was because I recently almost sold my S7 Edge due to poor performance. When I first installed Nougat it was great, but over time the phone got worse and worse. I realize this is an Android thing in general, but it just got to be so annoying that I couldn’t ignore it any longer. I have a vanilla android tablet that flies and when I would switch back to the phone it was almost unbearable. This guide will help out significantly with that issue.
First off you'll want to enable "Developer options". Go to Settings > About device > and then tap on "Build number" 7 times to enable Developer options.
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After that go back a page and scroll all the way to the bottom to find Developer options. Click that.
Once in Developer options scroll about 3/4 way down to find three entries that say "animation scale". Change all three entries to "0.5x".
Next we need to go to the Playstore and download an app called "Package Disabler Pro". Yes it's 2 dollars and yes you want/need it.
Before running the app download the .XML file I have attached to this post called "XDA.xml". Now go ahead and open the app and let it load. Next click the three dots in the top right and select "Import from xml". Select the xml file you downloaded from the previous step. This will disable some of the pre-installed apps that you don't need. I encourage you to look through this entire list and click on each item that you would never use, this will permanently disable that app from running or appearing in your app drawer. You can easily undo it at any time by clicking the apps name again (taking the check out of the box). Just to let you know I have 33 additional apps disabled other than the ones in the "XDA.xml" file, I have all kinds of stuff disabled that I don't use; gear vr, gear manager for watches, android pay (I use Samsung pay), S-voice (I used google dictation for everything). I really encourage you to go through and get rid of anything in there that you don't use, it will help the phone out a lot. Once you're done reboot the phone.
When the phone boots up go to the "Device maintenance" section of the settings menu. I at first ignored this section as I felt that it was gimmicky an unnecessary, but then realized that it's actually very useful.
First let’s go to "Performance mode". There is a ton of stuff you can do with this, but I am only going to address one of them. Click on "settings" and then "Screen resolution". Change it to 1920x1080 (FHD). You can always change it back if you really need something such as VR, but most of the time you will not be able to tell that there was a change in resolution.
Next go back to Device maintenance and select "RAM". This menu allows you to close out things from RAM that you don't want running. The problem with this is that Linux (Android) prefers to have apps stay in RAM instead of having to reload them each time you open them, so closing them is kind of counterproductive. Not only that but almost everything that you close from this menu will re-enable itself in the next few minutes anyway. This menu, like the "Battery" section, gives you a look at things which are running that you may not know about. I went through this list and uninstalled apps that I didn't even use so that they weren't just hanging around running without me knowing. A lot of the apps on this list were running and I never even opened them to begin with, that kind of bugs me. I got rid of the ones I could and then used Greenify (more on that in a minute) on the others. Any apps on this list that you for sure never opened, need to be added to Greenify (see next section for instructions) because they are running themselves and using resources.
Now for Greenify. Go to the playstore and download the "Greenify" app and follow the instructions to set it up. It takes a few steps to setup but you only have to do it once. Pay attention as some of the steps are a little tricky and they all must be enabled for the app to function properly. Once installed you will use Greenify to hibernate the apps that you found from the previous section (ram manager) that you don't want awake all the time. Some apps just run themselves without asking you first and sit there consuming battery. I would first decide whether you even need that app to begin with and if you do, then go ahead and Greenify it. Something to note here is that if you Greenify an app that NEEDS to stay awake to work, such as a chat program or music apps, they won't work properly. These apps are easy to spot because they have little blue "gcm" icons next to them, so be careful. To add an app to the "Greenify list" (auto hibernation) just hit the + button in the top right to start adding them.
Once you're done with all that, your phone should be flying. It's not even the same phone anymore really. One thing I want to point out is that the Samsung keyboard on Android 6.0 was trash. It was a completely unusable piece of non-working trash. The auto correct couldn't keep up with any reasonable typing speed, so no words would be corrected at all and you would be left with a mess of a paragraph. I solved that with Swiftkey originally, but for some odd reason it was never blazing fast on this phone. It caught every single mistake, but when you were typing there was just enough lag to kind of throw off your typing speed and it looked like crap. I am happy to say that on Android 7.0 the new Samsung keyboard is the best keyboard I have ever used. They FINALLY got it right after all these years. Honestly all of their keyboards have sucked. They could never seem to get them right, whether it was lag or just plain non-functioning auto correct, it was always something. This one is perfect and if you're using Swiftkey I would uninstall it as it continually reruns itself even when you force close it. It's also a resource hog, so if you don't need it, get rid of it.
There is it, you should be good to go with these small adjustments. A lot of you don't even have 7.0 yet, but when you do at least you will have a head start. There is nothing worse than paying $800 for the latest smartphone only for it to be a laggy mess. Hopefully this helps somewhat with that problem.

Good advice. I just got my S7E the other day. I was (am) so disappointed there is no root for this device. My other android is a note 4 and there is a huge development community, so that's what I've been used to for the past 2 years. I'm missing little things that you can do with root... Ad away for 1, and honestly 3minit battery and 3minit clock. Like I said little things.
And to be honest, the S7E doesn't feel "that" much faster than my Note 4. Which has got me scratching my head. It's faster but not the night and day difference I expected.
Well I look forward to nougat. And using these tips. Thanks!
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I've disabled animations and disabled or removed bloat apps for years. I find I have to do a complete reset every couple weeks or so since being on beta. It gets HORRIBLE lag that no amount of cache clearing fixes.
PDP can actually ruin battery life as dependent apps are constantly running, searching for and not finding other apps they're tied to.

joe3681 said:
I've disabled animations and disabled or removed bloat apps for years. I find I have to do a complete reset every couple weeks or so since being on beta. It gets HORRIBLE lag that no amount of cache clearing fixes.
PDP can actually ruin battery life as dependent apps are constantly running, searching for and not finding other apps they're tied to.
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My phone has been amazingly smooth for 2 weeks now, night and day difference. I agree, if you get carried away with disabling packages it can be counter productive. I've gone through and just disabled anything I didn't recognize, like 200 things disabled LOL Yea getting carried away with that program can cause some serious problems. I only disable things that are clearly apps that I wouldn't use and a couple others that I know for certain are insane battery hogs like the tmobile carrier IQ service that logs your every action (I forget the name at the moment but it's disabled in my XDA.xml).

joe3681 said:
PDP can actually ruin battery life as dependent apps are constantly running, searching for and not finding other apps they're tied to.
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Force the app, and clear it's cache and data before disabling it. I was ready to deal with the root issues to Uninstaller a bunch of apps when PDP failed to extend my battery life, but someone in another thread suggested cleaning the app and it worked wonders for me.
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Mine is still in android 6 and in uodate swction its not showing. What the hell is wrong where everyone using 7

saurabh88 said:
Mine is still in android 6 and in uodate swction its not showing. What the hell is wrong where everyone using 7
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Those of us how are running 7.0 are in the beta program, which is closed
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Ohk

Guide updated to add Greenify section, remove redundant and (non useful) section, and new XDA.xml app uploaded.

I think using (a) Package Disabler is maybe one of the most important steps! Including a pre-done .xml to help people disable bloat is fantastic. GREAT JOB! Thanks given!

Araltd said:
I think using (a) Package Disabler is maybe one of the most important steps! Including a pre-done .xml to help people disable bloat is fantastic. GREAT JOB! Thanks given!
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is there a difference if I just go into setting, applications and just disabling the app from there? is the app necessary ?

Izz14 said:
is there a difference if I just go into setting, applications and just disabling the app from there? is the app necessary ?
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You can't disable services with the in OS settings, only applications and not system applications.
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Sounds like the right thing to do, but since we have no real backup of our ROM, what does one do if the changes made by this app are not to the liking of the user? How can this process be reverted back to prior of the making of these changes?

[Discussion] What rom are you running? 2018 edition

Hey guys, I own a Photon Q and plan on buying another for parts as mine got scratched up bad on a recent hike. i was playing around with other roms and thought I'd start a discussion thread for the few people still rocking the best QWERTY phone ever made.
My setup:
Sailfish OS 2.1.3.7 (need to update to 2.1.4.14 soon)
Rainbow backlight
Sim modded obviously
It's fast, stable, and the battery life on Sailfish is easily double what I got on CM11 or even CM10.2
What other roms have I used?
LOS14.1 - Fast and lot's of fun, but the battery life was just garbage. Battery life was my only complaint, 15% gone in 30 minutes? REALLY?
CM11 - Fast but again, bad battery life.
CM12.1 - Oddly really slow compared to the above two but the battery life was meh, I blame different default clock speeds
CM10.2 - the best android rom. Decent Speed, decent battery life. Only issue is, you know, it's android 4.3.1, I prefer ICS over JB and wish CM9 was available.
Sailfish OS - of course, my favorite. Its super fast, and the battery is at 78% at the end of the day for me. It's something you just need to try for yourself. If you don't mind losing android app support make the switch you won't regret it.
What are you guys using? what tweaks? what rom? what hardware mods? what new phones/old phones are you looking at?

The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
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About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)

I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...

The Solutor said:
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
P.S.
About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
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c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.

Galaxyninja66 said:
c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
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The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.

The Solutor said:
The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
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*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.

enigma9o7 said:
I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Galaxyninja66 said:
*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
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Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?

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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
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I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
I have very few apps installed, certainly no facebook or any social media anything besides hangouts, can't really think of anything to downgrade. Ah well.

enigma9o7 said:
I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
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F2FS is supported since LP.
There is also a PQ KitKat ROM with backported F2FS support.
To get full advantage of it you should have both /data and /cache partitions on f2fs.
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
Keep in mind that your "internal SD" is just a subfolder of /data, so you need to backup your data inside it as well, or just move temporarily them to the external SD
There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
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I don't have google voice on my phone since the days of Milestone 1, which come with a good internal voice recognizing app, small, local and effective (I think it still works)
By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.

The Solutor said:
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
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There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
...
By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
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As I mentioned, in my case, data was already f2fs and I just did cache. Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.

enigma9o7 said:
Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
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System is basically a read only partition that changes only when you install a new rom, a zip from TWRP, or when you use a root file explorer to change somthing.
No writes = no need for a smarter FS.
That said I believe that, if you backup your system partition then you restore it on FSFS, it will work. The kernel supports it and I don't think it's "racist" about the partition involved.
Just there is no point in doing that, minimal (if any) improvements, v.s. possible troubles.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
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Ok.
But even on a Gapp Based ROM is still a pleasure to use Yalp over the Playstore.
When the resources are limited, anything that can be removed/replaced by a leaner version helps to improve the responsiveness.

The Solutor said:
Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
Stock browser is stock browser : (
I don't mind it and most people don;t, but the next best thing is webcat, which is basically the same thing.
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
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honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.

Galaxyninja66 said:
honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
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Frankly If it was for my I was still using Gingerbread, Surely its UI was not silky and refined like the new iterations, but the UX was light years better than anything that came later.
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Back to the browser, I feel incredible that I was able to have a good mobile experience using my P800 (which is the very first real smartphone, from 2002) or even a micro phone like the siemens SL-55 with its stamp sized display, while I couldn't get the same, in the AD2018, on a brand new smartphone, which has hundreds of times the power and the memory of them.
I feel just retarded that google moved the setting menu on the top left corner, just when the display started to become surf board sized, and i could continue for a day...
I feel completely crazy how most users decided to back any idiotic idea spooned to them by the big brothers. Starting from the terminology.
Think to "Sideloading"... seriously ?
Installing a program on my device, possibly a program written and compiled by myself is SIDE loading ? ?
I couldn't think to anything more "straight" and less "side" than that.
In short I try to limit the damage exactly like you do, then we give different value to different aspects of the device usage. Which is normal and human.
The point is not how we try to fix a problem, the point is that nowadays most people doesn't even realize that there is a problem to solve.:crying:

Question Is it worth trying to root my Z Flip 3?

Hello good people of this forum
About a month ago I finally picked up myself a Z Flip 3 and I want to root it. The only issue is I'm scared of the risks and downsides of it. What are the chances I completely brick my phone when trying to root? Is rooting on Samsung especially hard compared to Google? How durable is the Z Flip 3 in general? Because considering rooting will void my warranty, if it breaks I'll be out of a phone and $900. Is it overall worth taking these risks with my phone are am I better off not trying?
Thank you!

You got money to burn?
If not I would leave it be...

In 15 or so years of rooting and probably more than a dozen phones I've only ever had one phone go back for repairs (S8+) for a new charging port under warranty without any problems being rooted, they even replaced the screen free of charge! so I'm not too concerned about warranties.
It's next to impossible to truly brick a phone, odin won't let you flash something you shouldn't be flashing. Rooting is done via Magisk and it's a piece of cake to do.

blackhawk said:
You got money to burn?
If not I would leave it be...
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What makes you say so? Is rooting the Z flip 3 really that bad? Because the comment right under this is saying the complete opposite.

trustier said:
What makes you say so? Is rooting the Z flip 3 really that bad? Because the comment right under this is saying the complete opposite.
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Stock is perfectly functional once optimized.
Rooted is not. Depends what you want but if anything goes south the warranty is gone. Trade in value is too... no Knox.

Not the Z Flip 3. What would you do that for?

MySelf_v1 said:
Not the Z Flip 3. What would you do that for?
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For AdAway
Edit: use AdGuard for ad blocking. Thanks for correcting me

buru898 said:
For AdAway
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I actually use AdGuard. There's a free version and it's for non-rooted devices. I don't believe I've seen an ad on my device since I installed it.
I use to root every phone I bought as soon as a root method came out for it. I was rooting, unrooting, factory resetting, installing/uninstalling custom ROMs and recovery systems, doing back-ups and restores, phone set-ups (when the restore process didn't work properly), etc.. all the while losing some of the phone's original functionality. It got to the point where the amount of time I was spending customizing my phone (especially installing/uninstalling the never-ending variations of custom ROMs) was no longer worth the benefit. I was losing data, memory cards getting erased, etc.. It was frustrating. Plus you void the phone's warranty. A void warranty is not a problem unless you need to exercise it. Then you have regrets.
The Android OS has come a long way since then allowing a lot more user customization. Plus, there are more apps available now that allow you to further customize your phone without rooting it so you don't lose any of the phone's original functionality. Good Lock is one example of a customization app. It does some customizations that, in the past, your device had to be rooted to get. I'm sure there's plenty of other apps out there that would do just about whatever you want without rooting the phone.
Even a lot of bloatware can now be frozen or uninstalled without the need to root the phone. So I gave up rooting/customized ROMs and got back my time and sanity (lol). I haven't rooted a device in years and I don't miss it at all. I personally refuse to go back into that arena. But that's my experience. Others may have a totally different experience with it and get a lot more benefit out of it.

buru898 said:
For AdAway
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Plenty of free dns based ad blockers like blockada

luigi90210 said:
Plenty of free dns based ad blockers like blockada
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Or just do this (blocks ads globally)...
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blackhawk said:
Or just do this (blocks ads globally)...
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Does this block ads without having to actually install the AdGuard app?

crawls69 said:
Does this block ads without having to actually install the AdGuard app?
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Yeap. Works on installed apps and blacklisted sites in the browsers. Pretty cool.
On my N10+ running on Android 9 haven't had any malware breaches in about 2 years. This seems to help. Rarely interferes with usage.
Easy to disable if needed.

blackhawk said:
Yeap. Works on installed apps and blacklisted sites in the browsers. Pretty cool.
On my N10+ running on Android 9 haven't had any malware breaches in about 2 years. This seems to help. Rarely interferes with usage.
Easy to disable if needed.
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Wow. I'm gonna give it a try. I currently see no ads using the AdGurad app. If I continue to see no adds using the private DNS method and nothing else is adversely affected, I'll uninstall the AdGuard app. I'm using the free version so I'm not getting any additional features other than the free version comes with the ability to block trackers (not sure if using the private DNS method also blocks trackers). Thanks for the info.
Further bolsters the argument against needing to root...

crawls69 said:
Wow. I'm gonna give it a try. I currently see no ads using the AdGurad app. If I continue to see no adds using the private DNS method and nothing else is adversely affected, I'll uninstall the AdGuard app. I'm using the free version so I'm not getting any additional features other than the free version comes with the ability to block trackers (not sure if using the private DNS method also blocks trackers). Thanks for the info.
Further bolsters the argument against needing to root...
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A Samsung that isn't optimized is a mess, but rooting it will open a whole new can of worms.
I use Package Disabler, Karma Firmware (fully functional on Android 9) and that DNS setting.
That's it. The rest is just choosing apps wisely and settings optimization. No globally power management is active. Google play Services is kept disabled unless needed. OTA updates are always blocked.
The configuration of my other N10+ running on Android 10 is almost identical.
The load on the Android 9 variant will be 2 yo in June, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. This is what a stock Android is capable of if you optimize it and don't keep screwing it up with upgrades/updates once its running well... and fulfilling its mission. My oldest app version is WPS office. It's over 5 yo, it's firewall blocked, is free and runs well. It runs on both variants.
Rather than the constant learning curves and fighting that upgrades, updates bring... use it!

I see many that gave up on rooting. I'm with you idk if I would ever root this phone

MySelf_v1 said:
I see many that gave up on rooting. I'm with you idk if I would ever root this phone
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If it seems like a bad idea... it probably is.

blackhawk said:
Or just do this (blocks ads globally)...
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You can run into issues using adguards DNS(I had issues with websites loading and certain restaurant apps) so I still suggest blockada or an app that's either VPN based and free or pay for a real VPN with an ad blocker
With the app if you have connectivity issues, with an app you can enable split tunneling and have that app bypass your ad blocker, it also allows you to turn off the ad blocker on the quick setting

luigi90210 said:
You can run into issues using adguards DNS(I had issues with websites loading and certain restaurant apps) so I still suggest blockada or an app that's either VPN based and free or pay for a real VPN with an ad blocker
With the app if you have connectivity issues, with an app you can enable split tunneling and have that app bypass your ad blocker, it also allows you to turn off the ad blocker on the quick setting
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It rarely causes issues if it does I temporarily switch back to the automatic DNS option.
Most times I ignore the few sites like double click that are giving me problems.

trustier said:
Hello good people of this forum
About a month ago I finally picked up myself a Z Flip 3 and I want to root it. The only issue is I'm scared of the risks and downsides of it. What are the chances I completely brick my phone when trying to root? Is rooting on Samsung especially hard compared to Google? How durable is the Z Flip 3 in general? Because considering rooting will void my warranty, if it breaks I'll be out of a phone and $900. Is it overall worth taking these risks with my phone are am I better off not trying?
Thank you!
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Rooted mine. Debloated the heck out of it. Battery lasts between 1.5 and 2 days now. Added an extra Atmos audio mod with Magisk, and now it sounds so much better.

Question Non Rooted Pixel 7 Pro

Okay Ive had some time using this phone and came to a conclusion, I don't need root on this phone.
Now of course root gives us the power but I have found some applications and a few workarounds to get the best overall performance on this Pixel 7 Pro.
1.Shizuku apk.
This app is sorta like a su app with of course no system level privileges.
(I use this app for ,Better Internet Tiles,
Carrier Vanity Name and Dar Q ..)
2.Package Disabler apk.
This app can debloat most apps.
3.System UI Turner apk.
This app can enable and disable hidden features within the ROM.
4. My new favorite non rooted app that can lock the CPU frequencies.
Max All CPU (non root) apk.
This app actually works which shocked me.!!
5.Adguard apk.
So basically having a pixel device has been the same experience as my rooted devices running pixel experience roms.
Of course better screen (AMOLED) wireless charging and IP68 rating etc...
In a nut shell one can enjoy this device without root.
Please list applications or adb commands or anything that can improve the overall performance of the pixel without root..
Thanks..
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What you're asking is nearly impossible. You can disable some apps, but installing more will just slow down your device. There are no ADB commands that will "improve performance" either.

Please list applications or adb commands or anything that can improve the overall performance of the pixel without root..
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V0latyle said:
What you're asking is nearly impossible. You can disable some apps, but installing more will just slow down your device. There are no ADB commands that will "improve performance" either.
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I can't speak to ADB commands (I doubt there's any, i figure OP's asking for "special commands" that gain some special access to change a particular setting), I think what OP is going for is methods/apps like Greenify -- which is debatable because, as I understand it, Android OS does a whole caching or keeping apps in a low background state as to not use up more power & resources to start them back up again; I only ever seen it discussed when users discuss the merits of "closing all apps" (also discussed on iphones) and/or how it is different than "closing programs" in Windows (this might've been a different case on older versions of Android [as I recall finding it necessary to do such methods on my Motorola Droids {1,3,4}])...
But agreed, without root access, what can be done is so limiting that it's hardly going to make a noticeable difference. if anything, one must trust Android OS developers that they're making the most out of resources ("under the hood") and not wasting them...

Interesting!

Debloat via windows cpu using :
(UAD) Universal Android Debloater, works on Android 14 beta 3.1 in case anyone is curious..
I've noticed less battery drain when i uninstalled google calander,vzw.apn.lib, digital wellbeing, YouTube music, Gmail, and few others..

jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Debloat via windows cpu using :
(UAD) Universal Android Debloater, works on Android 14 beta 3.1 in case anyone is curious..
I've noticed less battery drain when i uninstalled google calander,vzw.apn.lib, digital wellbeing, YouTube music, Gmail, and few others..
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Of course, when u disable more app, more battery gain. But then, what do u use your phone for? (Uninstall calendar, Gmail?)

hungragezone said:
Of course, when u disable more app, more battery gain. But then, what do u use your phone for? (Uninstall calendar, Gmail?)
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i used the browser to check my emails and the preinstalled google calendar requires a sign in just to see the calendar month i don't like that i use another calendar app..

4ADatabase setedit mod that has my pixel 7 pro flying and with no overheating.
Running this mod on android 14 beta 3.1..
I saw this mod in a thread somewhere that works without root just the app.
My cpu clock speeds are now stable and don't fluctuate like I'm used to on a rooted phone that i would max out my cores for best performance
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See my pics.. This phone really needs no root or custom rom
..I need all my banking apps , hold for me and all stock pixel exclusives...
Happy modding without root..

jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
4ADatabase setedit mod that has my pixel 7 pro flying and with no overheating.
Running this mod on android 14 beta 3.1..
I saw this mod in a thread somewhere that works without root just the app.
My cpu clock speeds are now stable and don't fluctuate like I'm used to on a rooted phone that i would max out my cores for best performance
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See my pics.. This phone really needs no root or custom rom
..I need all my banking apps , hold for me and all stock pixel exclusives...
Happy modding without root..View attachment 5939303View attachment 5939305View attachment 5939307
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How about battery life?

jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
4ADatabase setedit mod that has my pixel 7 pro flying and with no overheating.
Running this mod on android 14 beta 3.1..
I saw this mod in a thread somewhere that works without root just the app.
My cpu clock speeds are now stable and don't fluctuate like I'm used to on a rooted phone that i would max out my cores for best performance
.
See my pics.. This phone really needs no root or custom rom
..I need all my banking apps , hold for me and all stock pixel exclusives...
Happy modding without root..View attachment 5939303View attachment 5939305View attachment 5939307
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I really appreciate your informations. Anyway the way you tell everbody "you dont need root" is patronizing. People root for many reasons. And its a lot easier to play around with mods if you have root. I never had problems with root since the first Android Phone.

hungragezone said:
How about battery life?
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No noticeable difference.. I spent 3 hours on calls, took some video shots, watched about 1 hour of YouTube, used Android Auto and maps while driving down the coast for about an hour.
Came home about 6 hours later still had %65 left in the can.... Battery life has always been good even on A13..

xtcislove said:
I really appreciate your informations. Anyway the way you tell everbody "you dont need root" is patronizing. People root for many reasons. And its a lot easier to play around with mods if you have root. I never had problems with root since the first Android Phone.
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Patronising. lol
I guess one only reads and gravitates to one subject.
I've been rooting, building, baking roms ,flashing etc..since 2009.. This phone is the only phone that I've owned that I've never rooted ..I repeat 14 years of android modding and this phone makes me not want to root it ..
Why does that bother you?
Don't answer I know why..
Lastly, Those of us who are enlighten know something.
Ill throw one bone for your everyone roots for various reasons post
Theres 5 main factors why one roots per national surveys and repetitions.
1.Bloatware/crapware removal
2.Modders/Devs love to tinker and are just enthusiast..(Love That)
3.Google haters. (Micro G lovers) Some hate the Google advertisement practices, Google is an advertisment company remember that part.
4.Hackers, enough said on that..
5.Ability to customize there device to ones own liking..
Many more but you know that already..
So what have we learned today class?

jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Patronising. lol
I guess one only reads and gravitates to one subject.
I've been rooting, building, baking roms ,flashing etc..since 2009.. This phone is the only phone that I've owned that I've never rooted ..I repeat 14 years of android modding and this phone makes me not want to root it ..
Why does that bother you?
Don't answer I know why..
Lastly, Those of us who are enlighten know something.
Ill throw one bone for your everyone roots for various reasons post
Theres 5 main factors why one roots per national surveys and repetitions.
1.Bloatware/crapware removal
2.Modders/Devs love to tinker and are just enthusiast..(Love That)
3.Google haters. (Micro G lovers) Some hate the Google advertisement practices, Google is an advertisment company remember that part.
4.Hackers, enough said on that..
5.Ability to customize there device to ones own liking..
Many more but you know that already..
So what have we learned today class?
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"Why does that bother you?" Nothing you mentioned above bothers me, its your attitude.
"Lastly, Those of us who are enlighten know something." -> Attitude
"So what have we learned today class? " That i am right about you and your attitude.
And yes this is highly subjective and just like your tips about not rooting you maybe take a thing out of my critics.

You should put a tutorial together for the devices that are bootloader locked or just do not want to root. Good information here

Enabled (VONR ) Voice Over New Radio=5G
I've read many pixel users say that phone reception is not that good.
Being on Verizon wireless towers i have no dropped calls and calls are super clear with the clear calling option enabled in settings.
This app( pixelIMS.apk ) enables VOLTE, VONR,apn option to add can be enabled although its blocked on spectrum so i still cant edit my apns..and a few other features.
Give credits to the developer of this app on GitHub..
App requires shikuku or root..

NFC works on Beta 14 _3.1
Tested it on a train and made a google pay purchase at the store. Even worked with my bulky case on.