Pixel UI vs Lineage (Android 10) - General Questions and Answers

Small question, but I suspect that it is going to need a big answer.
First of all, I would be happy if there is a site or post that already did the comparison, and I would be quite happy if someone would link the site or post as my Google-fu might have been inadequate.
I also realise that I am comparing a stock ROM and custom ROM. I custom ROM sometime has the advantage of getting support by community developers for longer.
But keeping in mind that I do use various Google Apps (and would therefore install some form of GAapps with Lineage), I was wondering if there are certain features in Lineage I might miss in the Pixel UI, or vice-versa (for instance, if I was to install GCam on Lineage and use it on a Pixel phone, would I get the same thing as I would with Pixel UI?).
And while I am at it.. is the Pixel Experience to the Pixel UI the same thing as say, stock MIUI ROM and xiaomi.eu, or is something very different under the hood?
Thanks.

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Will this phone have good support for 3rd party roms?

Hi!
Currently I have this device as my main option for upgrading my smartphone, but I'm looking for a phone which I can install 3rd party ROMs such as Lineage OS or Pixel Experience to prolong it's life.
For now this phone is selling a lot and looks promising when it comes having a good dev community.
Is this one a good choice or do you have any recommendations?
Thanks for your time
Probably not since its only for china/india. Also the main selling point of the phone, the camera, isnt as good as you might think. So just buy a Pocco, or wait a little more and see if they release new phones (Pocco2/Mi A3).
Most of the custom roms are being ported to other devices by Indian devs. So yes, there will be good dev support for this phone.
andresteare said:
Hi!
Currently I have this device as my main option for upgrading my smartphone, but I'm looking for a phone which I can install 3rd party ROMs such as Lineage OS or Pixel Experience to prolong it's life.
For now this phone is selling a lot and looks promising when it comes having a good dev community.
Is this one a good choice or do you have any recommendations?
Thanks for your time
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Yes, it already has pretty good custom rom support.
Both Pixel Experience and LineageOS have already been ported and made available on the RN7P, as well as a few others like crDroid and Havoc OS.
Personally I'm using crDroid as I was told it's a LineageOS based rom but with more customization options added in, and while I'm still tinkering around with it, there's definitely a lot of options.
It's also officially been ported and maintained, if that makes much of a difference compared to LineageOS being an unofficial port last time I checked.

Worth the Bootloader Unlock? Yes! New Project coming... (GOSP)

Hey Folks,
I had no Samsung Device for ages but i got a brand new Galaxy S9+ in Gold for a nice Price and couldn't resist anymore. Now is the Question, is the Exynos Variant worth the Bootloader Unlock? I'm a Friend of AOSP / GSI Development and would like to contribute for My Device some Work. But how good is the Treble Support? Are GSIs working fine? Any Bugs or Features that i would miss compared to the locked stock OS? The ONE UI seems to be pretty nice and i'm very happy with My S9+ how it is. But i would also like a OS without all the Samsung Stuff and some Optimizations on top. All Opinions are Welcome!
Edit:
So i just decided to unlock My S9+ Duos and i'm already working on a Stock OS Project (Sadly since AOSP isn't that good rn). Anyways, the Samsung OS is pretty good. I will debloat it hardly and add Google Apps besides some heavy background optimizations on the System. That will be something new for Samsung Users... Stay tuned!
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Project will be called GOSP (Galaxy Open Source Patch). Aiming on Debloating Samsungs Firmwares besides adding Google Apps, new Features and optimized System Configurations for better Performance, Quality and Battery Lifetimes. It will be open on GitHub for contributions and everyone is welcome to work with Me on a unified Stock ROM Project for all Galaxy S9 and S10 Variants (Also the coming Ones and Note 9/10 Devices).
The First Time that i haven't unlocked my Bootloader right after getting My Device. If no One explains Me the Pro and Cons am i keeping it locked. I don"t trust This Samsung Pseudo Security Stuff aka Knox and Counters... IT's like i said For Years. Samsung is just the better Apple. Can't wait to Hear News about Tizen lol
Not a lot is happening on the AOSP side of things, just a los 16 project that seems to be stable enough for daily use. There are a few very nice stock based roms like soldiers or ambasadii. Go and have a look on the cross development forums. For me personally there are pros, I like my device bloatfree and my kernel modified for my usage. But the cons are that there is not a big community (strange for a newer Samsung device.......), not much treble sGSI support at all, and a very small chance of getting a large number of different AOSP roms in the near future. Hope I helped
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Not a lot is happening on the AOSP side of things, just a los 16 project that seems to be stable enough for daily use. There are a few very nice stock based roms like soldiers or ambasadii. Go and have a look on the cross development forums. For me personally there are pros, I like my device bloatfree and my kernel modified for my usage. But the cons are that there is not a big community (strange for a newer Samsung device.......), not much treble sGSI support at all, and a very small chance of getting a large number of different AOSP roms in the near future. Hope I helped
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I'm wondering how @phhusson is working with Treble since he made various patches on his AOSP GSI Development. Do we use Stock Vendors with the GSIs? Hows the Pie Status? Many GSIs are out there who get many Updates over the Time including Phhussons Changes on the AOSP Base so i would push My Efforts in this Direction...
I've read that Hardware composing isn't working and that the Iris Scan isn't implented in AOSP. Is there anything besides that left? It looked to me that Phhusson fixed most of the Issues so far!? I'm really about to unlock My Baby... (Still hate Exynos lol)
Miustone said:
I'm wondering how @phhusson is working with Treble since he made various patches on his AOSP GSI Development. Do we use Stock Vendors with the GSIs? Hows the Pie Status? Many GSIs are out there who get many Updates over the Time including Phhussons Changes on the AOSP Base so i would push My Efforts in this Direction...
I've read that Hardware composing isn't working and that the Iris Scan isn't implented in AOSP. Is there anything besides that left? It looked to me that Phhusson fixed most of the Issues so far!? I'm really about to unlock My Baby... (Still hate Exynos lol)
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I dont know how he is working, but sGSIs for out device are crap, and that is a good way to say it. There is no thread for the new LOS 16, but the HWC bug is solved in the new builds. Yeah the issues are fixed but the stability, battery life and other things are bad for my taste
Haxomen said:
I dont know how he is working, but sGSIs for out device are crap, and that is a good way to say it. There is no thread for the new LOS 16, but the HWC bug is solved in the new builds. Yeah the issues are fixed but the stability, battery life and other things are bad for my taste
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I'm really sad that i can't get a Snapdragon Samsung Device in Germany but i Think ill unlock the Bootloader, make a Backup and try out some Things. Stock seems to be Very Good actually. Maybe do i something in that Direction Again. But also possible that i work on Treble... I just need a Day or Two to decide that.
Shouldn't hurt to start a new Project for such unbeloved Device. The Overall Hardware i Superb. But i never worked with Exynos. That will be a intersting Trip...
Alright, i will do a Stock Project aiming on Debloating the Samsung Stuff out of Stock Devices and optimizing of the overall System Quality. Or how i call it: "Patching".
Required will be a Stock Samsung OS or ROM and My Patch does the Rest. Included will be also new and hidden Features and a Google like Expierence with essential System Apps from Google. Think i will use My last AROMA Utility for it which includes AROMA File Manager and other Goodies...
Can't wait to see what i can unleash on Samsung Devices..
One UI is really far away from AOSP. Hard to implent Pixel Features and such... Not even Well Beeing from Google will be shown in the Samsung Settings.
Think i will give Linage OS from the first of this Month a Shot and See how it Runs...
Thank you for your involvement!
If you want to contribute to s9+ exynos community, you could also port the gcam from pixel. There are some ports, but they are bad, and discontinued.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/themes/gcam-port-galaxy-s9-s9-exynos-t3814539/
Have a good day!
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Thank you for your involvement!
If you want to contribute to s9+ exynos community, you could also port the gcam from pixel. There are some ports, but they are bad, and discontinued.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/themes/gcam-port-galaxy-s9-s9-exynos-t3814539/
Have a good day!
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The Samsung Camera is actually pretty good. But i will take a look...
Is anyone willed to help me testing btw? Project will be called GOSP (Galaxy Open Source Patch) and i'm open for any Devs who want to join and contribute...

possible to run stock Android?

Find looking to getting this phone, I have always had pixel phones and just running stock Android.
From what I can tell, it is very easy to read this phone, really all I am looking to do is run stock w magisk ( Just need Wi-Fi tether and add blocking and viper for Android really!)
I know it's ridiculous question, but I just wanted to confirm that it would be possible to run stock Android and do all the things I'm used to doing on my pixel s
What do you mean by "stock" Android? Do you you mean literally a Pixel ROM?
The device as it comes from OnePlus has what they call Oxygen OS. It is very close to the pure Google experience (like Pixel device) with just a couple OnePlus apps, and some OP wallpapers, and not much else. I believe it is as close to a Pixel experience as you will get, without actually buying a Pixel.
Otherwise, there may be custom ROMs that get you closer to a Pixel experience.
I think the Pixel Experience ROM is exactly what you are looking for!
Just FYI, pixel's don't run stock Android either.
The closest thing you can get to "stock" android is LineageOS, as it's directly based off of AOSP and only has several added features.
Pixel phones don't run "stock" android, they run a proprietary OS Google ships their phones with that looks very close to stock android, but if that's what you're looking for, then Pixel Experience rom is probably for you.
Otherwise on OxygenOS, you can get a near pixel/stock experience using Lawnchair/Pixellauncher + Quickstep magisk module to replace OOS launcher and recents since you were planning on using magisk anyways.
Have you thought of installing the Pixel Launcher? It will give you the stock Pixel feel?

Custom ROM support

I'm interested in this phone and wondering what custom ROM support may be like for the device? I had a quick look at the pixel 4 and it's not massively supported but I don't really know how recent or popular it is?
I'm currently using a Xiaomi mi9t with pixel experience+. I know the p4a will be similar if not the same minus the additional features added in the pe+ version, which I quite like tbh.
I know it's early days and probably most can't even get their hands on the phone yet but curious what you might expect based on previous pixel devices?
I would also be interested in this. The 4a's "stock" Android is fine, but there are very few customization options. For example, the setting to hide specific Satus Bar icons is available in Settings but greyed out and inaccessible. I would really love to install LineageOS on this device.
As for popularity, the Pixel 4 was expensive and had poor battery life, so I don't think it had many adopters. The 4a on the otherhand is a steal at $350 and in a post-COVID world, I can see many people who need a new device going for the budget option. I really hope this helps us build a large development community
I plan on staying stock for a few weeks, but rooting and flashing roms is a weekly thing for me. I'm sure there will be plenty fairly quickly. Our codename is "sunfish", right? Much better than my current dumpling.
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One of the main developers at DU got one, it's a safe bet ROMs will be available
I would be super shocked if this device does not get any rom support as popular as it is. I believe a couple of devs have said they will start developing roms.

Question Why are there no OOS custom ROMs?

This is my first OnePlus device so excuse my ignorance. Looking at all the posted ROMs they all seem to be AOSP or Lineage-based. I was curious why none of them are OOS-based. I actually like a lot of the features of OOS, both Android 11 and 12 flavors, I was just hoping there might be a ROM that addresses some of the bugs or that adds refinement (because let's face it, OOS 12 is seriously half-baked). I have always had HTC or Samsung devices so I'm used to seeing most major ROMs actually based around the stock skin.
IMO one reason is that we don't have enough sources for OOS12, and building custom OOS 11 ROMs doesn't make any sense now as Android 12 is out. I'm not a dev so maybe it isn't true but i think it would be more complicated to install or build etc. these OOS based ROMs, with the recent changes to Android it's already pain to install AOSP based ROMs.
If you ask me it would be better to have a CAF based ROM instead, as they are optimized as OOS 11 was, but has the latest patches and stuff, also we should have sources for that... But i guess it's still easier to build from AOSP base so it is what it is
Yeah that makes sense. I guess I'll just stick with OOS 12 then. If I wanted a Pixel I would have gotten one and in fact I was between Pixel 6, S21 FE, and OnePlus 9 when I saw that all three were $599 on Amazon. Got the 9 because I wanted to try something new (and I didn't trust the Exynos modem in the Pixel 6). OOS isn't perfect but I like it more than AOSP and especially Pixel's Android 12 implementation.
Same question is mine why not os12 custom rom available? But not pixel etc
In stock based
Does OOS12 still have that brown tinge in the GApps? It drove me nuts.
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Does OOS12 still have that brown tinge in the GApps? It drove me nuts.
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That's set by your wallpaper. Either change the wallpaper or use LWP+ or Repainter to change the colors. It's an Android 12 feature called Material You.

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