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Hey Guys , so after selling my Xiaomi Redmi 2 a week back I was looking for a new phone with great community support. I am getting the used Nexus 5 (32GB) for around 80$ in my country India. So my question is the device still worth it ?
How is the battery life , camera (both front and back) and gaming performance with nougat roms ? Can I get the camera samples ?
Thanks in advanced.
I believe the new Pixel camera wont function on the N5 due to some technical difficulties and hardware limitations, and the Nougat ROMs are all ports since there was no official release for the N5, which has a limitation regarding CDMA, I.E. - Sprint and Sprint MVNOs will NOT work on any of the Android 7 ROMs. As for battery life, the N5 was never known to be very good in this department, although many custom kernels address this issue, amd as far as the N5 rear camera, lets just say it was always said that it could have been better, and now, 4 years after the release of the N5, it is definitely obsolete. But the N5 was a phone aimed to give flagship performance at a bargain price, so corners HAD to be cut in places... No SD card is one more such area. My thoughts are this.... It has a Snapdragon 800, 2Gb RAM, and either 16 or 32Gb memory... These 3 facts are the biggies, and the N5 STILL outperforms almost ALL bargain phones today. Just the processor alone makes it worth the money, as well as the cordless charging, unlocked BL, and MultiROM custom recovery. One last thing though, the N5 was made back when the OS was less than 1Gb, much less, so you could install lots of system apps, the current Android 7 OS is barely under 1Gb WITHOUT any of the bigger GAPPS zips. The N5 is capped at 1Gb for your OS files, sooooo, you wont be able to flash an OS/GAPPS that is over 1Gb in size, you might want to take that into consideration before you buy a phone which still outperforms most new non-flagship devices, but is nontheless still obsolete. Good luck, hope this helped.
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I believe the new Pixel camera wont function on the N5 due to some technical difficulties and hardware limitations, and the Nougat ROMs are all ports since there was no official release for the N5, which has a limitation regarding CDMA, I.E. - Sprint and Sprint MVNOs will NOT work on any of the Android 7 ROMs. As for battery life, the N5 was never known to be very good in this department, although many custom kernels address this issue, amd as far as the N5 rear camera, lets just say it was always said that it could have been better, and now, 4 years after the release of the N5, it is definitely obsolete. But the N5 was a phone aimed to give flagship performance at a bargain price, so corners HAD to be cut in places... No SD card is one more such area. My thoughts are this.... It has a Snapdragon 800, 2Gb RAM, and either 16 or 32Gb memory... These 3 facts are the biggies, and the N5 STILL outperforms almost ALL bargain phones today. Just the processor alone makes it worth the money, as well as the cordless charging, unlocked BL, and MultiROM custom recovery. One last thing though, the N5 was made back when the OS was less than 1Gb, much less, so you could install lots of system apps, the current Android 7 OS is barely under 1Gb WITHOUT any of the bigger GAPPS zips. The N5 is capped at 1Gb for your OS files, sooooo, you wont be able to flash an OS/GAPPS that is over 1Gb in size, you might want to take that into consideration before you buy a phone which still outperforms most new non-flagship devices, but is nontheless still obsolete. Good luck, hope this helped.
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Thanx for your reply mate.
i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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I'm a long time user but getting really annoyed with the worsening battery life. Where can I find out more about unofficial hammerhead caf roms and how to install them. Does it allow using Xposed?
Switched on My N5 after a long time. It still runs smoother & faster than some of my 2016 mid-range devices. I'm loving the performance:victory:. For me the only con is it's camera(Lol I didn't bought N5 for camera) & battery backup (managing somehow):silly: The device is good but you can get better devices than this at this time!!:highfive:
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i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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Agreed, changing to a battery conservative ROM will help, as will a custom kernel. Unfortunately I made too many performance enhancements with Ex Kernel, like over clocking the CPU from 2.2 to 2.3, which negated any battery saving settings. Now I just Fast Charge it and let Ex Kernel do its thing in Battery Saver mode when it gets low.
I just did the same thing - last month I bought a N5 for dirt cheap and it runs great. I just yesterday put PureNexus ROM on it so that I can have 7.1.1. I am amazed at how smoothly it runs. While it will not replace my N6 as my daily driver, it is a more than capable phone still.
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I just did the same thing - last month I bought a N5 for dirt cheap and it runs great. I just yesterday put PureNexus ROM on it so that I can have 7.1.1. I am amazed at how smoothly it runs. While it will not replace my N6 as my daily driver, it is a more than capable phone still.
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Please help me out. I have a rooted nexus 5 running stock 5.1.1 but I have no experience with other roms. Where do I find them? PureNexus ROM and others.
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Please help me out. I have a rooted nexus 5 running stock 5.1.1 but I have no experience with other roms. Where do I find them? PureNexus ROM and others.
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Deep inhale....
Ok, here we go. The Nexus 5 Android Development section of the forums is the best source of information for that. Here you will find popular original ROMs like PureNexus, Resurrection Remix, Nitrogen OS, and more. As to which one to use, that is kind of a personal preference. Each ROM offers a unique experience.
Additionally, more ROMs can be found in the Nexus 5 Original Android Development section of the forums. Here you will find ROMs based on other ROMs, primarily stock-like ROMs like LineageOS (previously Cyanogenmod), as well as custom recoveries and kernels.
You can also stick with stock, 6.0.1 is available directly from Google - it is a nice upgrade over your 5.1.1 stock setup.
If you are unfamiliar with flashing ROMs, might I suggest starting with this guide on how to unlock your bootloader (which you probably have already done since you have root), how to install a custom recovery like TWRP. Once this is done, you are open to the world of customization.
Please let me know if I can be of any more help.
Deep exhale....
Thank you. That's what I needed. Where I should go to find out more.
I'm already rooted. Just have not tried other roms.
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Thank you. That's what I needed. Where I should go to find out more.
I'm already rooted. Just have not tried other roms.
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Visit each ROMs thread. Watch YouTube reviews. Or just flash some for yourself and try different ones out. I loved cyanogenmod nut haven't tried out LineageOS yet. I'm on PureNexus on this N5 I am currently using because a lot of people on XDA recommended it.
What kind of thing now are you looking for in a ROM?
Something that would give me more battery life and yet be stable. I also use xposed which may be a hindrance as it only works with pure stock Android.
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Something that would give me more battery life and yet be stable. I also use xposed which may be a hindrance as it only works with pure stock Android.
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As xposed is not currently available to Nougat, you'll probably be best sticking with a Marshmallow based ROM, maybe even stock.
I can tell you that a ROM like Pure Nexus has a lot of features built into the ROM similar to what many modules from xposed offer - for me, it is a no brainer to have the text in place of a battery icon in the status bar. Also, Nougat has a restart built-in to the ROM, so that solves the other problem I had with stock Android. Just give it a whirl!
Regarding mi mix 2s android p preview, Does it mean my device will become like pixle and recieve OTA updates as soon as they come out? Android 8 then 9 then 10... Etc
Stable Android P will see the reintroduction of MIUI, they put too much development in MIUI to allow you to use pure Android P, just like all manufacturers do. it's a shame tho, i would love this phone with pure android
barcode99 said:
Stable Android P will see the reintroduction of MIUI, they put too much development in MIUI to allow you to use pure Android P, just like all manufacturers do. it's a shame tho, i would love this phone with pure android
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I'm not a religious person but amen brother!
The device really rocks even with the developer preview. I can't wait to have an aosp rom for this device! Coming from Nexus devices ever since I still love the look, smoothness and bloatware free android experience.
Maybe Google can force manufacturers to let people choose between stock android and their own UI. Chose at first startup and you're good to go!
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Maybe Google can force manufacturers to let people choose between stock android and their own UI. Chose at first startup and you're good to go!
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it's not going to happen, bro. it's like Microsoft forcing everyone to use Edge instead of Firefox and Chrome. They paid license fee and the hardware manufacturers make money by all means necessary. GUI is one of those. I personally do not care about GUI, i had LG, HTC, Samsung and Sony phones. I choose best performing device on the market based on design, spec and camera. I use Smart Launcher on all of them and just delete/hide all bloatware. MI 2s is the one i like this year, i run preview on it for a month, it's keeps crashing and camera app lost all MI 2s advantages so i am back on MIUI Global now. All other developer ROMs i tried, including MIUI10 is just full of bugs. Depends what you want to use your prone for... i used it primarily for business, stable ROM is more important that new bells&whistles half of which doesn't work. I got preview for MIUI10 and it's far from even something usable on a daily basis.
I am sure we will get something closer to pure android soon, Xiaomi really making headlines by allowing all kinda testing on this phone, it's good marketing strategy. i like it, but from what i saw so far, Global 9.5.19.0 is the one for me
You're absolutely right about that!
They can't force the manufacturer to let people choose. Which is of course a bad thing and by that I mean to force them.
I tried the miui global ROM 9.5.15 and it's stable and working but it has too many restrictions for me. I just like the stock android and not this iOS plagiarized version.
I'll wait for the custom ROMs. I run lineageos on my Samsung note 10.1 2014 because the original firmware made the tablet unusable. Lags as hell and you can't even uninstall all this bloatware without root.
Nice to see different tastes, that's what's makes the development strive for new solutions. Which is obviously great! So everybody can choose what fits them best!
@barcode99 thanks, i guess there is no way but to wait for lineage OS rom
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@barcode99 thanks, i guess there is no way but to wait for lineage OS rom
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When snapdragon 845 sources are released(properly first week of july) aosp roms are right around the corner. Additionally the brightness bug with treble roms is fixed but the fix is not implemented yet, so the future looks bright
It's worth mentioning, the final 1/2 developer previews are actually pretty stable, I had a Xperia 3 that got the Nougat Dev Previews and Sony decided to stop with Dev Preview 5 and not release a stable version, but I used Dev Preview 5 as my daily driver and had 0 issues with it
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It's worth mentioning, the final 1/2 developer previews are actually pretty stable, I had a Xperia 3 that got the Nougat Dev Previews and Sony decided to stop with Dev Preview 5 and not release a stable version, but I used Dev Preview 5 as my daily driver and had 0 issues with it
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until someone port MIUI camera app or release it standalone i would go with MIUI ROM, all camera ports i tried suck. That's pretty much the same problem for all manufacturers since camera hardware is differ from one to another
I'd also love pure android on the mix2s. But I guess miui is just the only kinda "downside" for this great device. And besides I think miui 10 is reaaally sexy, especially the multitasking!
Although the kernel source is available, there aren't any projects, custom roms/kernels, no miui modifications and barely working custom recovery.. I get it the device is new but so are other devices that have so much projects... But why is our device so empty? I bet it has a huge potential for custom teams..
Xiaomi isn't interested in actively supporting independent ROM development for their devices. The reason there is a lot of development for One Plus phones is that One Plus sends free phones to developers. Xiaomi does not do that and wants its customers to use the stock ROM. Official LOS is supposedly in development for the Mix 2S but if you need custom ROMs you bought the wrong phone. In the future you should probably see what the development thread looks like before buying.
What about other Xiaomi devices? They have custom support.
Well the custom recovery is actually working pretty good. You can use the treble roms, rr is daily driver ready... Currently there are people working on aosp for our device, when we have a working aosp other roms will follow based on it
If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
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If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
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I can see that, but it's definitely surprising how few official developer ROMs (zero) have been released since this phone has been in existence. I know it's been stated that developers are working on it, but I haven't seen anything.
The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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I do not care about processor. I just wanted full-screen with no notch and a good camera.
Hey Folks,
I had no Samsung Device for ages but i got a brand new Galaxy S9+ in Gold for a nice Price and couldn't resist anymore. Now is the Question, is the Exynos Variant worth the Bootloader Unlock? I'm a Friend of AOSP / GSI Development and would like to contribute for My Device some Work. But how good is the Treble Support? Are GSIs working fine? Any Bugs or Features that i would miss compared to the locked stock OS? The ONE UI seems to be pretty nice and i'm very happy with My S9+ how it is. But i would also like a OS without all the Samsung Stuff and some Optimizations on top. All Opinions are Welcome!
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So i just decided to unlock My S9+ Duos and i'm already working on a Stock OS Project (Sadly since AOSP isn't that good rn). Anyways, the Samsung OS is pretty good. I will debloat it hardly and add Google Apps besides some heavy background optimizations on the System. That will be something new for Samsung Users... Stay tuned!
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Project will be called GOSP (Galaxy Open Source Patch). Aiming on Debloating Samsungs Firmwares besides adding Google Apps, new Features and optimized System Configurations for better Performance, Quality and Battery Lifetimes. It will be open on GitHub for contributions and everyone is welcome to work with Me on a unified Stock ROM Project for all Galaxy S9 and S10 Variants (Also the coming Ones and Note 9/10 Devices).
The First Time that i haven't unlocked my Bootloader right after getting My Device. If no One explains Me the Pro and Cons am i keeping it locked. I don"t trust This Samsung Pseudo Security Stuff aka Knox and Counters... IT's like i said For Years. Samsung is just the better Apple. Can't wait to Hear News about Tizen lol
Not a lot is happening on the AOSP side of things, just a los 16 project that seems to be stable enough for daily use. There are a few very nice stock based roms like soldiers or ambasadii. Go and have a look on the cross development forums. For me personally there are pros, I like my device bloatfree and my kernel modified for my usage. But the cons are that there is not a big community (strange for a newer Samsung device.......), not much treble sGSI support at all, and a very small chance of getting a large number of different AOSP roms in the near future. Hope I helped
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Not a lot is happening on the AOSP side of things, just a los 16 project that seems to be stable enough for daily use. There are a few very nice stock based roms like soldiers or ambasadii. Go and have a look on the cross development forums. For me personally there are pros, I like my device bloatfree and my kernel modified for my usage. But the cons are that there is not a big community (strange for a newer Samsung device.......), not much treble sGSI support at all, and a very small chance of getting a large number of different AOSP roms in the near future. Hope I helped
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I'm wondering how @phhusson is working with Treble since he made various patches on his AOSP GSI Development. Do we use Stock Vendors with the GSIs? Hows the Pie Status? Many GSIs are out there who get many Updates over the Time including Phhussons Changes on the AOSP Base so i would push My Efforts in this Direction...
I've read that Hardware composing isn't working and that the Iris Scan isn't implented in AOSP. Is there anything besides that left? It looked to me that Phhusson fixed most of the Issues so far!? I'm really about to unlock My Baby... (Still hate Exynos lol)
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I'm wondering how @phhusson is working with Treble since he made various patches on his AOSP GSI Development. Do we use Stock Vendors with the GSIs? Hows the Pie Status? Many GSIs are out there who get many Updates over the Time including Phhussons Changes on the AOSP Base so i would push My Efforts in this Direction...
I've read that Hardware composing isn't working and that the Iris Scan isn't implented in AOSP. Is there anything besides that left? It looked to me that Phhusson fixed most of the Issues so far!? I'm really about to unlock My Baby... (Still hate Exynos lol)
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I dont know how he is working, but sGSIs for out device are crap, and that is a good way to say it. There is no thread for the new LOS 16, but the HWC bug is solved in the new builds. Yeah the issues are fixed but the stability, battery life and other things are bad for my taste
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I dont know how he is working, but sGSIs for out device are crap, and that is a good way to say it. There is no thread for the new LOS 16, but the HWC bug is solved in the new builds. Yeah the issues are fixed but the stability, battery life and other things are bad for my taste
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I'm really sad that i can't get a Snapdragon Samsung Device in Germany but i Think ill unlock the Bootloader, make a Backup and try out some Things. Stock seems to be Very Good actually. Maybe do i something in that Direction Again. But also possible that i work on Treble... I just need a Day or Two to decide that.
Shouldn't hurt to start a new Project for such unbeloved Device. The Overall Hardware i Superb. But i never worked with Exynos. That will be a intersting Trip...
Alright, i will do a Stock Project aiming on Debloating the Samsung Stuff out of Stock Devices and optimizing of the overall System Quality. Or how i call it: "Patching".
Required will be a Stock Samsung OS or ROM and My Patch does the Rest. Included will be also new and hidden Features and a Google like Expierence with essential System Apps from Google. Think i will use My last AROMA Utility for it which includes AROMA File Manager and other Goodies...
Can't wait to see what i can unleash on Samsung Devices..
One UI is really far away from AOSP. Hard to implent Pixel Features and such... Not even Well Beeing from Google will be shown in the Samsung Settings.
Think i will give Linage OS from the first of this Month a Shot and See how it Runs...
Thank you for your involvement!
If you want to contribute to s9+ exynos community, you could also port the gcam from pixel. There are some ports, but they are bad, and discontinued.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/themes/gcam-port-galaxy-s9-s9-exynos-t3814539/
Have a good day!
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Thank you for your involvement!
If you want to contribute to s9+ exynos community, you could also port the gcam from pixel. There are some ports, but they are bad, and discontinued.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/themes/gcam-port-galaxy-s9-s9-exynos-t3814539/
Have a good day!
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The Samsung Camera is actually pretty good. But i will take a look...
Is anyone willed to help me testing btw? Project will be called GOSP (Galaxy Open Source Patch) and i'm open for any Devs who want to join and contribute...
I'm interested in this phone and wondering what custom ROM support may be like for the device? I had a quick look at the pixel 4 and it's not massively supported but I don't really know how recent or popular it is?
I'm currently using a Xiaomi mi9t with pixel experience+. I know the p4a will be similar if not the same minus the additional features added in the pe+ version, which I quite like tbh.
I know it's early days and probably most can't even get their hands on the phone yet but curious what you might expect based on previous pixel devices?
I would also be interested in this. The 4a's "stock" Android is fine, but there are very few customization options. For example, the setting to hide specific Satus Bar icons is available in Settings but greyed out and inaccessible. I would really love to install LineageOS on this device.
As for popularity, the Pixel 4 was expensive and had poor battery life, so I don't think it had many adopters. The 4a on the otherhand is a steal at $350 and in a post-COVID world, I can see many people who need a new device going for the budget option. I really hope this helps us build a large development community
I plan on staying stock for a few weeks, but rooting and flashing roms is a weekly thing for me. I'm sure there will be plenty fairly quickly. Our codename is "sunfish", right? Much better than my current dumpling.
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One of the main developers at DU got one, it's a safe bet ROMs will be available
I would be super shocked if this device does not get any rom support as popular as it is. I believe a couple of devs have said they will start developing roms.