Hey Guys , so after selling my Xiaomi Redmi 2 a week back I was looking for a new phone with great community support. I am getting the used Nexus 5 (32GB) for around 80$ in my country India. So my question is the device still worth it ?
How is the battery life , camera (both front and back) and gaming performance with nougat roms ? Can I get the camera samples ?
Thanks in advanced.
I believe the new Pixel camera wont function on the N5 due to some technical difficulties and hardware limitations, and the Nougat ROMs are all ports since there was no official release for the N5, which has a limitation regarding CDMA, I.E. - Sprint and Sprint MVNOs will NOT work on any of the Android 7 ROMs. As for battery life, the N5 was never known to be very good in this department, although many custom kernels address this issue, amd as far as the N5 rear camera, lets just say it was always said that it could have been better, and now, 4 years after the release of the N5, it is definitely obsolete. But the N5 was a phone aimed to give flagship performance at a bargain price, so corners HAD to be cut in places... No SD card is one more such area. My thoughts are this.... It has a Snapdragon 800, 2Gb RAM, and either 16 or 32Gb memory... These 3 facts are the biggies, and the N5 STILL outperforms almost ALL bargain phones today. Just the processor alone makes it worth the money, as well as the cordless charging, unlocked BL, and MultiROM custom recovery. One last thing though, the N5 was made back when the OS was less than 1Gb, much less, so you could install lots of system apps, the current Android 7 OS is barely under 1Gb WITHOUT any of the bigger GAPPS zips. The N5 is capped at 1Gb for your OS files, sooooo, you wont be able to flash an OS/GAPPS that is over 1Gb in size, you might want to take that into consideration before you buy a phone which still outperforms most new non-flagship devices, but is nontheless still obsolete. Good luck, hope this helped.
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I believe the new Pixel camera wont function on the N5 due to some technical difficulties and hardware limitations, and the Nougat ROMs are all ports since there was no official release for the N5, which has a limitation regarding CDMA, I.E. - Sprint and Sprint MVNOs will NOT work on any of the Android 7 ROMs. As for battery life, the N5 was never known to be very good in this department, although many custom kernels address this issue, amd as far as the N5 rear camera, lets just say it was always said that it could have been better, and now, 4 years after the release of the N5, it is definitely obsolete. But the N5 was a phone aimed to give flagship performance at a bargain price, so corners HAD to be cut in places... No SD card is one more such area. My thoughts are this.... It has a Snapdragon 800, 2Gb RAM, and either 16 or 32Gb memory... These 3 facts are the biggies, and the N5 STILL outperforms almost ALL bargain phones today. Just the processor alone makes it worth the money, as well as the cordless charging, unlocked BL, and MultiROM custom recovery. One last thing though, the N5 was made back when the OS was less than 1Gb, much less, so you could install lots of system apps, the current Android 7 OS is barely under 1Gb WITHOUT any of the bigger GAPPS zips. The N5 is capped at 1Gb for your OS files, sooooo, you wont be able to flash an OS/GAPPS that is over 1Gb in size, you might want to take that into consideration before you buy a phone which still outperforms most new non-flagship devices, but is nontheless still obsolete. Good luck, hope this helped.
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Thanx for your reply mate.
i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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I'm a long time user but getting really annoyed with the worsening battery life. Where can I find out more about unofficial hammerhead caf roms and how to install them. Does it allow using Xposed?
Switched on My N5 after a long time. It still runs smoother & faster than some of my 2016 mid-range devices. I'm loving the performance:victory:. For me the only con is it's camera(Lol I didn't bought N5 for camera) & battery backup (managing somehow):silly: The device is good but you can get better devices than this at this time!!:highfive:
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i will say go for it.. The only thing i had against the phone was its battery.. in the stock os, battery life is terrible.. But since flashing the unofficial hammerhead caf lineage os by phoval, i hav started loving the phone again coz the battery life has become manageable.. i plan to keep it atleast till 2019.. @Battlecreed5
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Agreed, changing to a battery conservative ROM will help, as will a custom kernel. Unfortunately I made too many performance enhancements with Ex Kernel, like over clocking the CPU from 2.2 to 2.3, which negated any battery saving settings. Now I just Fast Charge it and let Ex Kernel do its thing in Battery Saver mode when it gets low.
I just did the same thing - last month I bought a N5 for dirt cheap and it runs great. I just yesterday put PureNexus ROM on it so that I can have 7.1.1. I am amazed at how smoothly it runs. While it will not replace my N6 as my daily driver, it is a more than capable phone still.
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I just did the same thing - last month I bought a N5 for dirt cheap and it runs great. I just yesterday put PureNexus ROM on it so that I can have 7.1.1. I am amazed at how smoothly it runs. While it will not replace my N6 as my daily driver, it is a more than capable phone still.
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Please help me out. I have a rooted nexus 5 running stock 5.1.1 but I have no experience with other roms. Where do I find them? PureNexus ROM and others.
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Please help me out. I have a rooted nexus 5 running stock 5.1.1 but I have no experience with other roms. Where do I find them? PureNexus ROM and others.
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Ok, here we go. The Nexus 5 Android Development section of the forums is the best source of information for that. Here you will find popular original ROMs like PureNexus, Resurrection Remix, Nitrogen OS, and more. As to which one to use, that is kind of a personal preference. Each ROM offers a unique experience.
Additionally, more ROMs can be found in the Nexus 5 Original Android Development section of the forums. Here you will find ROMs based on other ROMs, primarily stock-like ROMs like LineageOS (previously Cyanogenmod), as well as custom recoveries and kernels.
You can also stick with stock, 6.0.1 is available directly from Google - it is a nice upgrade over your 5.1.1 stock setup.
If you are unfamiliar with flashing ROMs, might I suggest starting with this guide on how to unlock your bootloader (which you probably have already done since you have root), how to install a custom recovery like TWRP. Once this is done, you are open to the world of customization.
Please let me know if I can be of any more help.
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Thank you. That's what I needed. Where I should go to find out more.
I'm already rooted. Just have not tried other roms.
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Thank you. That's what I needed. Where I should go to find out more.
I'm already rooted. Just have not tried other roms.
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Visit each ROMs thread. Watch YouTube reviews. Or just flash some for yourself and try different ones out. I loved cyanogenmod nut haven't tried out LineageOS yet. I'm on PureNexus on this N5 I am currently using because a lot of people on XDA recommended it.
What kind of thing now are you looking for in a ROM?
Something that would give me more battery life and yet be stable. I also use xposed which may be a hindrance as it only works with pure stock Android.
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Something that would give me more battery life and yet be stable. I also use xposed which may be a hindrance as it only works with pure stock Android.
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As xposed is not currently available to Nougat, you'll probably be best sticking with a Marshmallow based ROM, maybe even stock.
I can tell you that a ROM like Pure Nexus has a lot of features built into the ROM similar to what many modules from xposed offer - for me, it is a no brainer to have the text in place of a battery icon in the status bar. Also, Nougat has a restart built-in to the ROM, so that solves the other problem I had with stock Android. Just give it a whirl!
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So I've been thinking of swapping out my Galaxy S6 for either a Oneplus two or Nexus 6P
It's not that I hate the galaxy S6 as it is, but the damn touchwiz sometimes ruins the experience. Considering the closed source nature of the Exynos, is there even a possibility in the near future for the S6 to have near stock android roms like Cyanogenmod? I do want to stay with the S6 because of the beastly exynos chip and the great camera, and also android marshmallow is coming near for the galaxy devices, it's just that the software is kinda laggy.
can you give me some of your thoughts?
There is an active github for development of a CM ROM. That said, I'm not dev savvy enough to know where it stands and don' want to bother the Dev as that is pretty close to an ETA question. But it is in the works. Not too thrilled with the new Nexus devices personally. too large in form factor or underwhelming in specs.
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There is an active github for development of a CM ROM. That said, I'm not dev savvy enough to know where it stands and don' want to bother the Dev as that is pretty close to an ETA question. But it is in the works. Not too thrilled with the new Nexus devices personally. too large in form factor or underwhelming in specs.
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Same. I'd really love to have an AOSP rom for the Galaxy S6. Only reason I'm looking forward for the nexus or onplus devices is because of the stock android experience. Tbh, Touchwiz can be kinda boring, and lagging sometimes. Not to mention the horrible RAM management. If it weren't for the Exynos chip, I would have gotten the Oneplus or Nexus devices lol
As of late, I've seen the thread where a certain dev was working on CM, but I think on the last post on that thread, i believe he closed it due to lack of people working on it. I dunno
Hopefully someone can clarify if there really is a dev working on an AOSP, I really want to stay with the S6.
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Same. I'd really love to have an AOSP rom for the Galaxy S6. Only reason I'm looking forward for the nexus or onplus devices is because of the stock android experience. Tbh, Touchwiz can be kinda boring, and lagging sometimes. Not to mention the horrible RAM management. If it weren't for the Exynos chip, I would have gotten the Oneplus or Nexus devices lol
As of late, I've seen the thread where a certain dev was working on CM, but I think on the last post on that thread, i believe he closed it due to lack of people working on it. I dunno
Hopefully someone can clarify if there really is a dev working on an AOSP, I really want to stay with the S6.
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With the proper kernel settings and ROM, this phone is as smooth as nexus device with much faster loading times for apps. Not to mention great multitasking (literally had 15 apps open at once and none of them reloaded) and amazing battery life ~6hr SOT. I can say that Vindicator kernel with xtrestolie is one of the best
There are some opengl problems with 5.1.1 tw roms. So the performance is not good as 5.0.1. I am also considering to change my phone to nexus 6P.
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With the proper kernel settings and ROM, this phone is as smooth as nexus device with much faster loading times for apps. Not to mention great multitasking (literally had 15 apps open at once and none of them reloaded) and amazing battery life ~6hr SOT. I can say that Vindicator kernel with xtrestolie is one of the best
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I've recently installed xtroleti with Unikernel on it, set on Medium profile. Do you think the vindicator kernel is better? If so, on what terms?
damnn, still waiting if we'll ever have AOSP roms
I'm waiting for AOSP roms too. Thinking about selling my S6 to get a nexus 6p.
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I'm waiting for AOSP roms too. Thinking about selling my S6 to get a nexus 6p.
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to be honest, with the available custom roms and kernels right now for galaxy s6, the s6 runs almost 99 % smooth, no stuttering whatsoever. I'm using Xtrolite with unikernel set on medium profile, the device is flawless in terms of software (excluding the ram management of course).
but yeah, I'm really hoping for AOSP roms, particularly Cyanogenmod. Can someone confirm if certain devs are working on it? I'm willing to donate
Im pretty sure we will see cyanogenmod 13 aprox a month after the first marshmallow release of samsung for any exynos 7420 device.
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1. Big demand since there are 4 exynos 7420 devices (s6, s6 edge+, s6 edge plus and note 5)
2. This also means there is a bigger dev base compared to older exynos devices from samsung.
And srsly guys do you think the phone of the year wont get aosp? We just need a bit more patience.
1% near impossible, well at least a stable rom.
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Im pretty sure we will see cyanogenmod 13 aprox a month after the first marshmallow release of samsung for any exynos 7420 device.
reasons?
1. Big demand since there are 4 exynos 7420 devices (s6, s6 edge+, s6 edge plus and note 5)
2. This also means there is a bigger dev base compared to older exynos devices from samsung.
And srsly guys do you think the phone of the year wont get aosp? We just need a bit more patience.
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Theres no exynos sources so it could take months to even get the screen to work.
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Theres no exynos sources so it could take months to even get the screen to work.
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As it was the case on the s4 i9500 and s5 but still donne pretty well thanks to developers like arter.
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As it was the case on the s4 i9500 and s5 but still donne pretty well thanks to developers like arter.
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Yes, however, many developers don't even think of the S6 because of the S2 (CM built but LAGGY).
I doubt Arter would try to develop CM for the S6, he develops the Note 5 ROM which I use
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Yes, however, many developers don't even think of the S6 because of the S2 (CM built but LAGGY).
I doubt Arter would try to develop CM for the S6, he develops the Note 5 ROM which I use
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I use that aswell but there is someone else who portet already cm recovery. He also plans to build cm for the s6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/development/recovery-cyanogen-recovery-galaxy-s6-t3158428
and im pretty sure anything that was running on the s2 was laggy
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I've recently installed xtroleti with Unikernel on it, set on Medium profile. Do you think the vindicator kernel is better? If so, on what terms?
damnn, still waiting if we'll ever have AOSP roms
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Vindicator i personally think blows every kernel out of the water. Best battery life by far but performance does take a hit unless you get kernel aduitor and set enforcing mode to 1 in interactive governor settings for both cores. That will make your phone smoother than any other kernel by far. Battery life is still much better than any other kernel. GPU overclocking is also included which i like lol. The only problem is the very rare crash to lockscreen that sometimes happens on the test builds (which are the best ones).
While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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Nexus as everyone knows has a huge fan following. This particular device hasn't much fan following. The stock firmware is already out. Unattractive I won't say.
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The more owners any given model has, the more likely it is that there are programmers among them capable of android development. Then there's the question of how much of the drivers/firmware is available as open source or compatible third-party stuff. Finally, there's the question of how much the phone actually benefits from custom anything.
Currently, i am on a stock ROM stock kernel with xposed and gravitybox and i currently have no open wishes ... except maybe the LED notification light, that would only work with a custom kernel.
X play is great, even with stock
@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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For systemwide themes, layers is there and everything is settled.
Even the sound performance on earphones is so good, no need of any sound mods. ?
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I'm waiting on my phone too, but the community will hopefully pick up as more dev teams get their hands on the device and whatnot. Things should gain traction after the overall international release of Marshmallow on this device is done, I'd say. Fingers crossed.
That's true. I was using xiaomi mi3 . great hardware for its price. But hated to use KitKat forever. It has got great developers .
But once I lost the mobile I got mxp. Honestly it's got very less support at the moment. I expected lot of activity.
I used to have so many notifications in xda when I was using mi3
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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Having recently ordered this phone to replace my N5, this is reassuring to hear.
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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I do agree with you on the superior performance of the N5 compared to the MXP. But let's focus on the important things, do we want to charge our smartphone everytime at the end of the day?
This is one of the reasons I moved from my beloved N5 to this new phone. Regularly, I use my smartphone for IM, browsing and e-mail. Do I need to have the best performance ? Certainly not.
More important is to have a phone that brings a battery endurance that lasts up to 2 days. The N5 in my 2 years of usage was like driving a ferrari. Unprecedented performance but an appalling operating range (battery life), charging the phone twice a day was nothing special.
As for the dev activity. The nexus community is unmatched when it comes to this. It can certainly be better but we have xposed framework + gravity box and also an unoffical cm13 build that looks promising to reach official status soon.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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No Nexus phone offers Bluetooth aptX or µSD card support, the bright screen of the MXP is excellent in itself, the front facing speaker is loud etc.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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Patience friend, Marshmallow is coming.
Joining the family soon.. To be precise Tomorrow.
I wouldn't compare Motorola's phones to Nexus line at all. Dev's love Nexuses, they always did. Sure, Moto's look kinda similar, being so close to stock and all, but it's not actually stock android right? You can kinda see the dev scene picking up slowly and I think it's only going to get better once MM is available worldwide.
On a side note, it's nice to see I wasn't the only one coming from Nexus 5 to MXP. Turns out there are plenty of people willing to trade off some pure benchmark performance for actual quality-of-life improvements, like battery and screen.
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My previous phone was a nexus 5 also, roll on MM.
First off let me say that I love this phone. The build quality while not the best is good enough and the materials used come together very nicely. The Moto X also has all the features I am looking for (quick charge, nice screen, stereo front facing speakers, expandable storage and unlocked and rootable!).
So why am I depressed about it?
The phone seems to not be as popular as it deserves and with that it doesn't get the massive amounts of support of other inferior devices. After owning this phone since October I have tried my hardest to grow to love the stock firmware as it is so close to google's. However (I'm not sure how many of you will agree with me here), I am very fond of CM and seeing that the Moto G 2015 has been officially supported for what feels like forever now I'm not sure the Moto X will ever be.
I know there are dedicated individuals working hard to further development projects for this device and I am very grateful for that. It just feels like the community for this phone is very small which has caught me off guard because the device seemingly has everything most people could want.
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure why I wrote this but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts and opinions.
I agree with you that I was assuming there would be way more support for this phone and I also though it would be easier to mess with as far as rooting and such. I'm no developer or self proclaimed rooting expert but it seems like if you are on android 6.0 stock it's not that easy to get rooted or downgrade to 5.x and root. I thought being unlocked and so near stock that this would all be a breeze but ever since I unrooted and upgraded to stock 6.0 rooting again is a pretty big undertaking. I'm not complaining here I do really like the stock OS but I love messing with the OS too. Here's to hoping some time in the near future there is a solid root option for stock 6.0
When I first seen the title I was like 'really'?/But as iv read further , there's one spot on point I agree with you on...
I expected the this phone to be one of the more popular, development wise, rom wise.
So when I first came to XDA and looked in the Moto X Pure section, WOW, I was sadly SADLY surprised.
3 CURRENT ROMS. are you joking me?
I told my self once the kernel source(or whatever) was released, THAT'S when things would change, that is when the list would grow..... IT HAS NOT THO....
THIS has been a let down. When I buy a phone, I want to be sure bec to me, its a hassle to do Re-Sale on EBay or Swappa or CL, Its just a hassle, I don't want to do it, Unless I absolutely have to. SO I'm sticking with the phone I buy most likely. So I'm sticking with it.
I could have spent 100 more to get the 6p, but at that time, everyone was talking DOWN the 6p, plus its a tad too big for me, I didn't want it then. Given the unpopularity in development this phone surprisingly is, it would be nice to have the 6p, but to me, going through the resale hassle, I think I'll pass.
Lastly, to the OP of this Post. I agree on one point, its very very surprising the unpopularity of the phone STILL. It's almost unexplainable.
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Ive been a long time lg and htc user prior to this.... Yes theres few roms but heres my take.... while lg g2 g3 g4 have lots of roms activities and users... Let me tell you how it works... First most of the ppl on there only complain about bugs and how they bricked their phones or complain of the hideous lg stock rom lag and interface... Then they flash bug filled. Aosp roms and complain about bugs and camera etc..... Wit moto x ppl dont have to be active in the forum bc first.. Stock rom is aosp... ....... Everything just works and feels great... And you can falsh optimized stock rom and ull have stability of stock roms+fluidness of aosp roms...(no need for users to stick around to complain... They jt flash they're rom and are of to enjoy it) You jt cant lose with this phone!!!! I appreciate the heck out of my fone and of mostly intelligent satisfied users!!!! Im my opinion this phone is second to only the nexus 6p right now.... And well the reason i have this is bc i got it for a measly 83$ on a amazing deal on ebay... Anyways. Thats alll... My opinion is complete
Edit.... Oh and ive nvr owned a phone with a signal quality even close to this one... Its baffling how much better it is then it was on my m8 or g3 or g4...
I came from the LG G4, what they did there is they got a well known Cyanogen Dev to agree to support that device if they helped him get it.
They got Codeworkx, (a great developer btw) and he jump started development right away squashing bugs left and right.
Maybe they can do that here? get a well known Developer to agree and see if they can get donations going for him.
I know things like this have gone down south before with devs not commiting and dropping/selling the device right away.
But there are good devs are there that are commited but just dont have funds to get devices.
Historically, the moto x line has never had much development. My own personal opinion is because there isn't much need: updates come fast, stock moto features are excellent, and performance tends to be very good and there is very little bloat. Other than the nexus line, where the devs have source code to work with, devices that come with good software tend to get less developer interest.
Obviously there are exceptions to this, just my observations after owning many phones over the years.
I just got the X for my dad and i believe its perfect for him (not so sure about the large display though), but he won't be messing around with ROMs and stuff.
However, I simply can't decide between this and the 5x for myself (6P is out of my budget). I love everything the X Style offers but I dread that I will soon get bored of the stock experience and crave for the bells and whistles that custom ROMs offer. The downside to flashing a ROM on the X is you lose out on Moto Display, Voice, Actions, and Assist--is that not the case? If I'm not mistaken, isn't Moto's implementation of these features significantly better than those found in CM?
I will echo what's been said and maybe add some points of my own. I love this phone I do, and maybe the fact that it has no issues is the issue but I also love seeing what else there is out there as far as rom's etc. I have yet to even root/unlock this phone because I almost see no major reason. I mean major, I know there's some xposed modules and whatnot but I used to love/hate trying out new roms just to see what they're like even with the bugs. I've moved on from the whole hack your phone scene but only because it seems to be less and less fun. Maybe the fact that the moto x pure is great as is, is the issue. No reason to really change anything. It's a good problem to have I guess.
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I just got the X for my dad and i believe its perfect for him (not so sure about the large display though), but he won't be messing around with ROMs and stuff.
However, I simply can't decide between this and the 5x for myself (6P is out of my budget). I love everything the X Style offers but I dread that I will soon get bored of the stock experience and crave for the bells and whistles that custom ROMs offer. The downside to flashing a ROM on the X is you lose out on Moto Display, Voice, Actions, and Assist--is that not the case? If I'm not mistaken, isn't Moto's implementation of these features significantly better than those found in CM?
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Moto's implementation is MUCH better than you'll find on any rom and/or xposed module. You will not find touchless display and moto voice that work well anywhere else. Also, you can get bells and whistles by installing gravitybox on stock-based roms. I've ran cm12.1/13 on my oneplus one for nearly a year and since switching to the moto x with gravitybox, I don't miss a thing.
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Ive been a long time lg and htc user prior to this.... Yes theres few roms but heres my take.... while lg g2 g3 g4 have lots of roms activities and users... Let me tell you how it works... First most of the ppl on there only complain about bugs and how they bricked their phones or complain of the hideous lg stock rom lag and interface... Then they flash bug filled. Aosp roms and complain about bugs and camera etc..... Wit moto x ppl dont have to be active in the forum bc first.. Stock rom is aosp... ....... Everything just works and feels great... And you can falsh optimized stock rom and ull have stability of stock roms+fluidness of aosp roms...(no need for users to stick around to complain... They jt flash they're rom and are of to enjoy it) You jt cant lose with this phone!!!! I appreciate the heck out of my fone and of mostly intelligent satisfied users!!!! Im my opinion this phone is second to only the nexus 6p right now.... And well the reason i have this is bc i got it for a measly 83$ on a amazing deal on ebay... Anyways. Thats alll... My opinion is complete[emoji14]
Edit.... Oh and ive nvr owned a phone with a signal quality even close to this one... Its baffling how much better it is then it was on my m8 or g3 or g4...
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Good points. I do wish we had a bit more variety rom wise tho.
Yeah 6p was just out my price range at the time, and also it wasnt as popular of a Choice at its launch as its been more recently.
For me specifically, I consume a lot of media, so speakers are a bit more important to me than some others, and was close to the most important feature I was looking for. I came from the htc M7, so when I heard the MXPE, I was not disappointed. As someone else said, this phone probably has the best speakers on a phone, even the 6p...... based on reviews and YouTube videos only.
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Theres not much to fix on this device, if and when CM gets official, you will see more rom in the dev section.
I love this phone that it doesnt get in my way and works just how I want it, heck I dont even keep tapatalk on my phone anymore since I never need to come here look for fixes or improvements
it is just 6months of release.. i think rom numbers and kernel numbers will improve over time...also the processor is almost new...there is very less work on msm8992...
also no vendor gives updates so fast.
LGs,HTCs,Samsungs take forever to update
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I agree with you that I was assuming there would be way more support for this phone and I also though it would be easier to mess with as far as rooting and such. I'm no developer or self proclaimed rooting expert but it seems like if you are on android 6.0 stock it's not that easy to get rooted or downgrade to 5.x and root. I thought being unlocked and so near stock that this would all be a breeze but ever since I unrooted and upgraded to stock 6.0 rooting again is a pretty big undertaking. I'm not complaining here I do really like the stock OS but I love messing with the OS too. Here's to hoping some time in the near future there is a solid root option for stock 6.0
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Unlock the bootloader, flash twrp through platform tools(adb-fastboot), flash chainfire supersu systemless root, it takes 10 min.
Yes, there are less ROMs compared to many other phones, but you must consider that most other phones don't come with a nearly pure Android experience. Those custom ROMs all try to focus on AOSP/CM builds that provide a pure Android experience along with extra features. This phone just doesn't need that as much.
Personally, I use to love flashing different ROMs to find the one that provides the best performance and feature set combination. This phone already has the performance, and Xposed and Layers provide all the features and custom look as desired. We also have a few solid kernels, too.
If you need a lot of ROMs, pick a phone that has a manufacturer-built version of Android that developers want to replace or a Nexus phone
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The stock ROM, rooted with Xposed and GravityBox can cover most of what a custom ROM can give you. And without the bugs.
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First off let me say that I love this phone. The build quality while not the best is good enough and the materials used come together very nicely. The Moto X also has all the features I am looking for (quick charge, nice screen, stereo front facing speakers, expandable storage and unlocked and rootable!).
So why am I depressed about it?
The phone seems to not be as popular as it deserves and with that it doesn't get the massive amounts of support of other inferior devices. After owning this phone since October I have tried my hardest to grow to love the stock firmware as it is so close to google's. However (I'm not sure how many of you will agree with me here), I am very fond of CM and seeing that the Moto G 2015 has been officially supported for what feels like forever now I'm not sure the Moto X will ever be.
I know there are dedicated individuals working hard to further development projects for this device and I am very grateful for that. It just feels like the community for this phone is very small which has caught me off guard because the device seemingly has everything most people could want.
Anyways, I'm not entirely sure why I wrote this but I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts and opinions.
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It's not depressing if you have Xposed framework and VZW Unlimited Data. I may keep this phone for 1-2 years instead of upgrading every 6 months.
I agree, just got this phone the other day and i thought there'd be a lot of rom support, easy rooting, more mods, etc. Kind of a shame for a very good phone.
About the camera
My main complaint about this phone after owning a LG G4 and Galaxy S6 is the lack of the camera 2 API. Why after virtually bringing this feature on board of the Google Nexus 6 and claming that this phone have a comparable camera to last year's flagships, they take away something out, that us owners are more than capable of taking advantage. The camera is good, but could be better, and if they don't feel like doing it we should've been able to do something about it. Dumb move Motorola.
One problem with this phone is that it has to have qcoms multi Sim implementation. So you will not see (m)any AOSP based ROM's.
This because it is a lot of work to make multi Sim work. And yes the implementation of Qualcomm multi Sim is different then the aosp implementation.
You will only see CM based custom ROM's or stock based modifications. CM based ROM's because CM has a lot more resources to integrate this.
(I tried to get omnirom working, but ran into the multi Sim problem).
the design was good but i got tired of the lag and overheating, even on the s808 chip. went to the iphone 6s for 2 months then im back on droid but with a nexus 6p. best device ive had, no lag or overheating, great support. maybe the OP should consider buying it.
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I agree, just got this phone the other day and i thought there'd be a lot of rom support, easy rooting, more mods, etc. Kind of a shame for a very good phone.
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alot of it has to do with levono buying moto and the uncertain future of the moto line. plus the fact moto seems to drop support easily.
A friend of mine has complained about their stock 2013 KitKat Moto G (Falcon, I believe) locking up and generally lagging a lot. She's asked me to take a look at it.
I root and ROM all my own phones, but when it's someone else's device I'm a bit more hesitant, as I don't want repeat problems coming back needing to be fixed.
Since I've never owned this phone I want to get advice from you guys regarding whether the battery life of Lollipop and Marshmallow ROMs takes a hit versus KitKat, as it did on my Nexus 5? Also, what ROM would you recommend for absolute stability, along with decent battery life? Extra features are not a concern, my friend has no desire to customise her phone or do anything outside of Facebook/email/web-browsing and other consumer-app use.
Alternatively, do you have any tips for increasing the performance of the phone on the stock (non-rooted) software ? I haven't looked at it yet, but I imagine that with just 1GB of RAM, it could probably be improved by disabling Chrome and installing a more lightweight browser. I realise that Motorola don't really install much bloatware on their phones, but is there anything that I can disable that will help?
install this :: forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1-28-01-2016-t3303903
best stable rom for moto g now , you can see reviews also comments
and if u like to look non CM then try Pure AOSP by alberto97 and if u want something different then go for 'flyme OS'....
As the title says, is the sS7 flat still worth buying as of today? I recently sold my phone and wanted to buy a new one, and found an s7 for $170, but I don't know if it's a good deal. What do you say?
Thanks.
I've not long had mine, maybe a month?
I came from an S4, had a moto x style (play in US) for about 6 months then I got a second hand S7 for £100. I think the camera was better on the moto but the development has all but stopped now
Getting an S7 though? I absolutely love it once you get it on a custom rom (or debloated stock) and get it tweaked just the way you like it, it runs like an absolute dream, I'm very happy with it
The price is good. Just make sure it is new and not rooted before buying.
Yeah I bought one in June after having a BLU R1 HD. S7 is much better
If you are curious I have a SM-G930W8
Nice nice, thanks everyone. I just bought it, it should arrive by Saturday or maybe Monday. I'll report back
Organics said:
Nice nice, thanks everyone. I just bought it, it should arrive by Saturday or maybe Monday. I'll report back
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Did you buy the international version or a US model? International S7s are absolutely better in almost every single way.
Been using mine since 2018, got it off my partner when she upgraded to a Note 8. Its currently running alexndr dev base rom and it never misses a beat! Besides, if it's good enough for DISA's DMCC-S network, it good enough for me.
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Did you buy the international version or a US model? International S7s are absolutely better in almost every single way.
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This is bad information.
No. Not every single way. And if buying for a US carrier, it's worse in many of the ways that matter: radio compatibility, and proper csc for function of wifi calling, VoLTE, and ViLTE, etc.
It's been a slow process with deaths in the family, but I've just started getting my s7 ready to use. Wanted to do the right research on what is safe or not to debloat for what I use, and that took a while. I'm 99% ready to use it [emoji846] my mom also has an s7. But I think the debloat process is helping mine run even smoother.
Once I have it fully the way I want, I'm gonna make a full backup. Then that way when I want to "reformat" I can just go back to that point. Seems like a good plan.
I plan to run it right down into the ground, lol. Some people upgrade every year. Me? I'll be upgrading from the captivate glide! S2 based. I still love that phone and it's in great physical shape, but the ram and compatibility just are not keeping up with it anymore even for a lighter user like me. I can use root to fool the play store about which android version, but if the app update coding doesn't support my older devices architecture it ends up with parsing errors and won't run. It took this long but this is finally starting to officially kill my s2.
I plan on running the s7 in exactly the same manner, until I just can't make it work any more! [emoji16]
what ROM is the best for S7? I have currently lineage OS 16 with nano gapps, I am considering to change it to something else. some features of the phone are not used(face unlock??), and few bugs I have noticed like the camera app is terrible slow (unable to take photos at night cause the flash is flashing and after a second the picture is taken LOL)
Well i just bought one, Canadian version with exynos in case i end up rooting it.
I did buy it just to use in the gym as an MP3 player but will likely end up flashing roms etc on it as well.
Doubt i could use it as my main device as its too small for me (im using a note 10 plus so big difference lol).
The lineage OS is good if you don't mind the camera photos being poor quality. If you want the best out of your camera you will need to run a Samsung stock based OS, because only those have the right camera drivers. SupermanRom is a good android version 8 debloated Samsung OS.
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The lineage OS is good if you don't mind the camera photos being poor quality. If you want the best out of your camera you will need to run a Samsung stock based OS, because only those have the right camera drivers. SupermanRom is a good android version 8 debloated Samsung OS.
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well thank you for the reply, I like the pure android PIE feeling (currently crDroid), but some features are missing, and OFC, the camera (the most important) is way worse than my Xiaomi MI5 was, so I'll consider to flash a stock base ROM
-don't you know if any GCam is working good on ROMs like https://turbox.uk/pages/roms.html ? (no black screen death, and photo quality as good as samsung stock)?
...superman or DevBase v6.0 or....LightRom by TeamExyKings..... hmm, how to choose from these? /if the camera problem can't be solved on these aOSP stlye roms/
lulzor said:
well thank you for the reply, I like the pure android PIE feeling (currently crDroid), but some features are missing, and OFC, the camera (the most important) is way worse than my Xiaomi MI5 was, so I'll consider to flash a stock base ROM
-don't you know if any GCam is working good on ROMs like https://turbox.uk/pages/roms.html ? (no black screen death, and photo quality as good as samsung stock)?
...superman or DevBase v6.0 or....LightRom by TeamExyKings..... hmm, how to choose from these? /if the camera problem can't be solved on these aOSP stlye roms/
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I tried LineageOS for a while, because I really like so much about it, but the big downside was the camera, so I tried GCam versions until I found one that's stable. Best case scenario is poor compared to what it would be on a Google phone or what stock Samsung OS would do, because of the kernel-layer camera api that Samsung provides to hook into the cam hardware--you cannot drive the camera properly without these proprietary driver hooks. So I eventually wiped LineageOS and installed SupermanROM, and had a lightweight but very customized and stable experience, with the EXCELLENT cameras Samsung designed. Also, it was a big fight just getting gcam to work without force-close, and then some functions didn't work, and couldn't do high-def vids at fast framerates. It all just works with Samsung cam app + drivers.
So, no, GCam is the best you get for non-samsung OS, but not even close to what you get from Samsung OS.
I don't know about DevBase. SupermanRom was all I tried. It's been a year since then. I moved on to a Note9 phone. The S7 is now actually running LightRom, and is quite nice! (9.0 NFEPort JetBlack) Great cam too! But, I cannot comment about it beyond that, since it's not my daily driver and I have used any radios except wifi. Use TWRP and try em all! Start with the Note9 port and see if it just works. Check bluetooth first. (I like it mainly for the built-in dark mode).