So I am one of the unlucky ones on the planet that has an exynos version and worst of all its the N985F/DS version (non 5G)
It's the same as the N986B while this had 5G.
I see roms and kernels for the N986... Can I still use those for mine?
Not having 5G may be a blessing; no parasitic battery drain. I wouldn't sweat that at all.
If still running on Android 10, stay with that version.
Stock Samsung's can run very well and the IU on Samsung's is excellent. You a package disabler to selectively weed out bloatware. If you optimize it, it should run great.
If not, plan B...
I have the HK Snapdragon version and the above still applies.
Run package disabler to kill unwanted apps, set screen res to FHD+ & 60hz.
5g kills the battery so it's a bonus your handset doesn't support it.
My battery life is absolutely amazing, but obviously the Exynos will not be as good.
kradcliffe said:
I have the HK Snapdragon version and the above still applies.
Run package disabler to kill unwanted apps, set screen res to FHD+ & 60hz.
5g kills the battery so it's a bonus your handset doesn't support it.
My battery life is absolutely amazing, but obviously the Exynos will not be as good.
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What's your SOT for browser, and vids; battery % per hr? If you know it.
Not sure about SOT but my average daily usage over the past 7 days is 24%. Battery easily lasts 3 days. And that's with a Galaxy Watch 3 connected as well.
N10+Snapdragon running on P*
Browser SOT 7-8%@hr
Online vids 9-11%
At night with cell/internet active, tap on AOD >.5%@hr
I limit brightness to 50% or less. Google play Services, Playstore are disabled unless needed. Bt almost always on. Wifi and all cloud disabled.
I use Accubattery history and Gallay battery tracker to monitor usage.
I was curious how the N20U was doing.
Was considering getting a N20U.
What OS version are you running?
*Got a new N10+Snapdragon/Q recently, still testing it. It may have slightly better battery stats, not sure. Set up is near identical. The Notes are a lot of fun...
Guys. Much appreciative of your responses but I was asking more in the matter of flashing roms for the N986B on my N985F/DS and whether that's possible or not without bricking.
Hello,
I got the same issue, May I ask? How to fix it?
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So it seems like there is so much variation in battery performance for the S7 (more than other phones) and I was wondering if I just got bad luck with my chip. I struggle to get 4 hrs SOT and that's with social media, YouTube, text, email, etc. Mostly WiFi and no gaming or Google maps. I understand SD820 gets crap battery compared to exynos, but I remember MKBHD's review saying he typically got 5 hrs SOT
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Battery life is one of those things that is going to be quite different for everyone. There really isn't any more variation with this phone than others - everyone uses their phone differently,and will easily get different results.
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So it seems like there is so much variation in battery performance for the S7 (more than other phones) and I was wondering if I just got bad luck with my chip. I struggle to get 4 hrs SOT and that's with social media, YouTube, text, email, etc. Mostly WiFi and no gaming or Google maps. I understand SD820 gets crap battery compared to exynos, but I remember MKBHD's review saying he typically got 5 hrs SOT
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Try using a dark or black theme, get Disabler Pro and check what people are disabling depending on your needs, get Greenify and setup agr. doze, I don't use auto brightness but change to my liking if I need, also disable wifi search, these are few I can think of right now but with my usage I get between 6.30-9 hours SOT and 1 to 2 days, depending on the tasks I'm performing. I get twice the battery time of my s6 edge with same usage. I'm on Tmob s7 930 snapdragon 820.
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Try using a dark or black theme, get Disabler Pro and check what people are disabling depending on your needs, get Greenify and setup agr. doze, I don't use auto brightness but change to my liking if I need, also disable wifi search, these are few I can think of right now but with my usage I get between 6.30-9 hours SOT and 1 to 2 days, depending on the tasks I'm performing. I get twice the battery time of my s6 edge with same usage. I'm on Tmob s7 930 snapdragon 820.
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Thanks, but my battery results are with all of those applied already. Maybe Tmobile variant just performs better. I've heard they had an update that resolved the android OS and android system bug. Hopefully verizon pushed a fix but I doubt it
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Yes, as well as performance and other issues, one of my gs7 works flawlessly one i had to replace for several major issues, the last works decent but has issues with lag, touch sensitivity and battery life
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So it seems like there is so much variation in battery performance for the S7 (more than other phones) and I was wondering if I just got bad luck with my chip. I struggle to get 4 hrs SOT and that's with social media, YouTube, text, email, etc. Mostly WiFi and no gaming or Google maps. I understand SD820 gets crap battery compared to exynos, but I remember MKBHD's review saying he typically got 5 hrs SOT
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I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.
Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.
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I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol
I got the unlocked S22ultra and I get only 5hrs SOT. For a 5000mAH battery that's very bad compared to iPhone 13 pro max. Does anyone has any suggestions ? Do you have any resolutions? Please don't tell me to turn off features /apps to get good battery.
Exynos versión?
debloated?
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Turn off features/apps to get good battery.
You will never get close to the 13 pro max SOT no matter how much you debloat, turn off features/ apps or any other gimmicks one can think off. The 13 pro max is in a whole different league.
Two things that worked for me on Snap Dragon is use FHD Resolution instead of WQHD and turn off mobile data when your on a WIFI network and don't need it. 5G Cellular seems put a lot of drain on the battery. When I am at home I have 5G WIFI so I just turn mobile off.
Try this workaround without disabling anything: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-news-discussion-thread.4399385/post-86730157
but S22 Ultra has bigger and brighter display so can't really compare to IP13PM..
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I got the unlocked S22ultra and I get only 5hrs SOT. For a 5000mAH battery that's very bad compared to iPhone 13 pro max. Does anyone has any suggestions ? Do you have any resolutions? Please don't tell me to turn off features /apps to get good battery.
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Don't compare to iCrap. It's easy for them to optimize their phones due to their jailed garden approach.
I dusted off my xda account to let you know that this latest software is great... Battery life finally doesn't drain when not used. (battery drain while not used drives me crazy, wife has iPhone... Always in use, it lasts forever)
Anyway Im the guy that never have problems, not many apps. No smart watch connected. Not rooted, not gamer, no cloud.
My battery used to drain like 15% overnight. Not anymore. It barely uses 40% a day.. Before it was about 75%.
I'm planning to freeze my software update app. Bc whatever they did is working great.
My device is more than 12 mo old, and i use the 85% charge limit (slowest possible charge). Unlocked US model directly from Samsung.
Yay.
Definitely package block updates if it's running well now.
you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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It's in Device Care under battery. Individual app battery background settings don't invoke global power management so you can do that instead.
That's just the start. You probably need to use a package disabler or adb edits to disable about 70-80 bloatware apps.
This is how on my N10+'s its configured.
Unlike latter Samsung flagships the N10+ is a well balanced phone in terms of form factor, usability, functionality and power consumption.
It supports expandable storage up to 1tb.
It seems that disabling the global power management the slug mode has been disabled too. I need to check it in the next days if the situation stays like this or not. In any case I still need to block the bloatware.
Thanks for your help
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
All those social media apps aren't helping... I never allow any on my devices for a number of reasons including security.
check this thread, also make sure you have 5G disabled (enable when you need it) but having %g enabled really hits battery, https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...e-battery-performance-stability-heat.4376755/ I used much of the stuff on this thread and I'm getting 8 to 10 hrs SoT and 2 to 3 days between charges.
while you using this trash apps like FB, ingram, twitter, snapchat which are wakes-up your modem every 3 seconds to download useless update what your friends eat in restorants you will continue getting that bad battery time...
use ADB APP control app and remove all preinstalled apps which is spying on your phone
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Hey everyone, figure i start a thread on apps/etc that can be safely disabled, so that we can dial on on removing needless junk from our phones. I am currently running a Snapdragon S22 Ultra, SM-S908U 512GB (AT&T variant) so my list may vary...
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techie users can use PCAPdroid to see why your phone is drain battery
Iyad22 said:
Im having performance issues along with battery drainage. Snapdragon 8gen1
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Settings _ HD+ , 60HZ.
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Settings _ HD+ , 60HZ.
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That will help; how much so be interesting to know. However I don't think that's the only cause of the excessive power consumption.
Social media apps suck battery on any phone they are on... especially if using 5G rather than 4G as Jostian pointed out.
Also display brightness really matters too. 30-40% is best, use manual brightness control.
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Settings _ HD+ , 60HZ.
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I bought a 2k display and 120 hz so i wont use them?
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That will help; how much so be interesting to know. However I don't think that's the only cause of the excessive power consumption.
Social media apps suck battery on any phone they are on... especially if using 5G rather than 4G as Jostian pointed out.
Also display brightness really matters too. 30-40% is best, use manual brightness control.
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Dude im using 4g and lighy use i had the s21 ultra before and i get aroung 5 h with heavy use and 6 to 7h with light use . This is not good at all . I had the 13 pro max for days and i had 10h sot
Iyad22 said:
I bought a 2k display and 120 hz so i wont use them?
Dude im using 4g and lighy use i had the s21 ultra before and i get aroung 5 h with heavy use and 6 to 7h with light use . This is not good at all . I had the 13 pro max for days and i had 10h sot
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I ain't no dude...
The really funny part is my N10+ gets better SOT than both of those. I use the hell out of 4G.
You are what you load nonetheless still pertains to your current dilemma. The S22U's hardware is more optimized for gaming it seems. Ironically Samsung deliberately throttle this at first.
High refresh rates are no big deal as far as I'm concerned but doubt that 60hz would even yield a 10% power savings, but you don't know until you try. Using the highest resolution also will eat another couple percent.
Lol, I keep Google play Services disabled most times for an extra 2%@SOT.
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Also display brightness really matters too. 30-40% is best, use manual brightness control.
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Hello Blackhawk. I wonder if it makes a lot of difference between 30-40% manually and auto brightness. Did you compare that? Is it the sensor that makes the difference in battery usage when using auto brightness?
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Hello Blackhawk. I wonder if it makes a lot of difference between 30-40% manually and auto brightness. Did you compare that? Is it the sensor that makes the difference in battery usage when using auto brightness?
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Auto brightness doesn't know how bright you need it to be. Many times it's too bright and that isn't beneficial for your retinas or battery life.