Hi, I own the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra and I noticed after some research that the Bixby voice wake-up service uses more than 20% of the battery which is ridiculous since I don't even use Bixby. I turned off Bixby voice wake-up toggle but that didn't change anything and I still find this among the running services under the developers' menu.
Did anyone else notice this? is there a way to disable it permanently? I even tried blocking it using the alliance shield x but it didn't work and it remained active
Update your apps to the latest version using Galaxy Store. Few years back when Google Play Services used to cause serious battery drain, a simple updated used to solve the problem.
Use GSam Battery Monitor to find out what is really eating up your kidney.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Update your apps to the latest version using Galaxy Store. Few years back when Google Play Services used to cause serious battery drain, a simple updated used to solve the problem.
Use GSam Battery Monitor to find out what is really eating up your kidney.
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all of the apps are updated. And it states clearly in the picture attached that it used 22% so why would I need another app? I mean I already know what drains the battery
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all of the apps are updated. And it states clearly in the picture attached that it used 22% so why would I need another app? I mean I already know what drains the battery
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Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
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Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
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No need to apologize. On the contrary, it was me who didn't get your post very well. You are definitely right. Some services aren't stand-alone and they are usually linked to other apps or packages. But I will disable this service anyway using ADB and check if it disappears from the list.
Did u solve the promblem?i need serios help...mine is draining 40% of the battery
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Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
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Help me pleas though
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Hello all. So Android Systems is chewing my battery up. It goes from 12%-13%of overall usage. I can't tell which apps within the Android services area are responsible. I'm afraid to even use my phone for more than a quick text response or to see the time because the battery drains quick.
As you can see, my screen has been on only for about an hour the whole day. I keep it around 20%.
Use the pc version of wakelock detector , a bit cumbersome but at least it works. Android system is used by another app WLD will tell you which one
godutch said:
Use the pc version of wakelock detector , a bit cumbersome but at least it works. Android system is used by another app WLD will tell you which one
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Hmm, alright. Is this app found in the play store?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wakelock+detector
Android system will use more battery than screen if you run your phone for 8 hours and only use the screen for an hour because the Android system is doing things in the background that is using more than the amount of battery you're burning on your screen. Also you're on 4G which will hit battery a lot.
This useage looks absolutely normal to me.
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Hmm, alright. Is this app found in the play store?
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I am on mobile so finding the link is hard but you can find WLD in the play store and instructions for the pc version are in the description, you will find in right here on xda.
When you-they say that task killers are bad, you also mean the stock task killer every phone have? I am talking about the one you enable it by long pressing the back ( or other ) key and then just press clean to delete all running apps.
Every app we open it must be killed/hibernated in order not to consume ram and battery. So we must put ALL the programs in greenify hibernation mode? :S
I am a little confused.
I have an Oppo Find 7a.. Should i use greenify or system battery/app management? And how?
Also i've installed Gsam Battery Monitor, but it doesnt seem to work well.. Sometimes timer reset, other time the app closes itself..
Also i noticed that youtube app doesn't display on greenify apps. Why?
Yes when people say that appkillers should not be used they mean also the android default app killing software. And they are right when they are saying that. Installing extra app killing software to your phone just consumes memory and battery life
And what about greenify?
I noticed that when i open the cm browser, also facebook opens! There is a wake-up path called << AttributionIdProvider>> which i cut it off..
Also there is another wake-up path for facebook something like this << lollipop update service >>.. What is it??
Should i cut it off also?
lazostat said:
And what about greenify?
I noticed that when i open the cm browser, also facebook opens! There is a wake-up path called << AttributionIdProvider>> which i cut it off..
Also there is another wake-up path for facebook something like this << lollipop update service >>.. What is it??
Should i cut it off also?
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I have not used Greenify so I cannot say anything about the features. To be honest, looking at the apps description I cannot see that it does anything special but prevent the apps from behaving the way they are designed to. Some individual apps may be poorly designed or implemented and may consume more battery life than necessary. In most of the cases doing this kind of hibernating will not help at all.
Most users say that greenify works very well.. I am surprised that you never heard of this program.
And what about battery monitor program? Should i have it ran all time?
lazostat said:
Most users say that greenify works very well.. I am surprised that you never heard of this program.
And what about battery monitor program? Should i have it ran all time?
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The purpose of battery monitor apps is to give you detailed information about battery consumption. You for example identify if some individual app is consuming too much battery for some reason. If you do not do anything with this information, there is no reason to keep the monitor app running.
The default closing of apps in the app drawer does not kill the app properly. Greenify completely stops the app via the app info or with root. All apps have to be hibernated in order to not consume battery but you should not hibernate apps that you want to have running in the background like whatsapp, hangouts, vpn, apps whose widgets you use etc. Youtube can not be hibernated because it is a preinstalled system app and these can only be hibernated if you pay for the Greenify donation package(which you absolutely should). For the Battery info app it depends on how it measures your battery usage. Try to hibernate it if it doest measure your battery stats remove it from the list again.
The more ram uses a program process background, the more battery it drains?
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The more ram uses a program process background, the more battery it drains?
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Not necessarily. But it's a good indicator. The most battery is consumed by internet traffic and the CPU/GPU when the display isn't on.
With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
I'm wondering the same thing.
Oreo caches apps in the back ground.
It works, but I still use Greenify to clean up the apps that I do not want cached.
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With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
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I personally felt the need for greenify was obsolete since Nougat arrived. Also in my experience I found that using it was detrimental/made no difference to battery life over time.
When I first got my Pixel 2, idle drain seemed high, so I tried Greenify. It seemed to help. I then uninstalled Greenify and there was no difference in battery life. I now believe the initial drain was just part of the phone calibrating itself and Greenify did not really do anything.
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
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For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
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Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
They still manage to run in the background for me Same with microsoft office apps!
foosion said:
Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
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I use Greenify to control the play store app, services framework, and other system apps that think they need to suck down the battery. I use Google Maps all the time but I don't want it running in the background when I am not using the phone. My phone is not rooted and I plan on keeping it that way for awhile. So far the battery is lasting a long time but I don't use the assistant or any other service that goes beyond making phone calls and texting. Facebook and the others can keep their battery draining apps to themselves.
I swapped out Greenify for Naptime. Naptime makes a difference.
anyone experience the issue? and how to resolve it? thanks\
just got the phones for the past few days. SOT around 5hours + and main battery drain is on one UI home
selferng said:
anyone experience the issue? and how to resolve it? thanks\
just got the phones for the past few days. SOT around 5hours + and main battery drain is on one UI home
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Check again after a few days.... Btfery drain is always worse after a factory reset or on a new phone as Android learns your usage Patterns
I have a 10+ running on Pie.
It took me months to sort out excessive battery usage. If your phone is running warm at idle you need to track down the causes. I use PD MDM package blocker which helps a lot if used wisely. A lot of junk that needs to be disable in settins too. My nominal battery usage screen off, plain jane AOD on is 1% an hour. Surfing the web, watching a vid is about 10% an hour. Your device probably uses more though even when optimized not sure though.
In Samsung Device Care, use factory load if it is the one with 360 degrees on it. Do not update.
•In Device Care punch Optimize for power/screen setting.
•Toggle on fast charging and -nothing- else. (see image)
You can then package block this app.
•This configuration will also keep power management from unwantedly killing apps in use like Poweramp. All other unused apps should go into standby mode when not in use or screen off... without power management options being toggled!
Use no 3rd party power management and for now don't toggle any apps to sleep.
•In Developer options>stand by apps, all buckets should show as active, if not unwanted power management is active.
Let the base Google default settings handle power management. Enabling advanced power management appears to cause conflicts leading to excessive CPU/battery usage.
•Any cloud app will steal power and bandwidth, Google Backup Transport and Goggle Services Framework are prime offenders.
•Disable all carrier, Samsung, Google etc diagnostic feedback as well as carrier updates and Playstore.
Enable as needed.
•Use Samsung Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker to help track usage.
Framework will still show usage with AOD is active about 1% @ hour when blocked. It should be well below 1% when phone is active.
I've posted more detailed info in the 10+ forum.
Each phone configuration varies so try these suggestions, what works for me may or may not work for you.
Get a package disabler and start locking it down... play with it.
blackhawk said:
I use PD MDM package blocker which helps a lot if used wisely. A lot of junk that needs to be disable in settins too. My nominal battery usage screen off, plain jane AOD on is 1% an hour. Surfing the web, watching a vid is about 10% an hour. Your device probably uses more though even when optimized not sure though...
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Thanks for sharing your tips here.
Which app are you referring to? Is it Package Disabler Pro? Searching "PD MDM" brings up a whole load of different PD apps on the Play Store.
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Thanks for sharing your tips here.
Which app are you referring to? Is it Package Disabler Pro? Searching "PD MDM" brings up a whole load of different PD apps on the Play Store.
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You're welcome.
They aren't on Playstore. You have to look a little or know about them.
Been using it for at least 3 years probably longer. Very stable. A great tool for non-rooted Samsungs.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Stopped using that paid one from Police-whatever because their lame app stopped being able to block AT&T updates.
blackhawk said:
You're welcome.
They aren't on Playstore. You have to look a little or know about them.
Been using it for at least 3 years probably longer. Very stable. A great tool for non-rooted Samsungs.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Stopped using that paid one from Police-whatever because their lame app stopped being able to block AT&T updates.
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Thanks for link. It's weird though, as the app made by Policedeveloper on the Play Store has the same UI and same name, they also use identical screenshots with an old Samsung phone model! I wonder if they are the same developer or one has copied the other.
I was using the one on the Play Store but it did break after upgrading to Android 10. I am considering buying the app you recommend but don't want to get burned again. I know its not a lot of money but I don't want to be sold a lemon!
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Thanks for sharing your tips here.
Which app are you referring to? Is it Package Disabler Pro? Searching "PD MDM" brings up a whole load of different PD apps on the Play Store.
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Thanks for link. It's weird though, as the app made by Policedeveloper on the Play Store has the same UI and same name, they also use identical screenshots with an old Samsung phone model! I wonder if they are the same developer or one has copied the other.
I was using the one on the Play Store but it did break after upgrading to Android 10. I am considering buying the app you recommend but don't want to get burned again. I know its not a lot of money but I don't want to be sold a lemon!
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Don't know who stole what but know I'll never use anything from Policedeveloper again. Trashware.
Didn't appreciate their lame attitude when I emailed them either.
I've used PD MDM on Kitkat and Pie. Lol, no plans to jam Q into my 10+ though; it's running stable and fast.
I was apprehensive at first too, but they have consistently given me a quality app.
If they say it's compatible you should be good to go.
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You're welcome.
They aren't on Playstore. You have to look a little or know about them.
Been using it for at least 3 years probably longer. Very stable. A great tool for non-rooted Samsungs.
https://www.packagedisabler.com/
Stopped using that paid one from Police-whatever because their lame app stopped being able to block AT&T updates.
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That's the same one I used on my other devices what have you disabled so far???
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oneandroidnut said:
That's the same one I used on my other devices what have you disabled so far???
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Funny you should ask. I just alphabetized the list.
<string>com.amazon.appmanager</string>
<string>com.android.emergency</string>
<string>com.android.managedprovisioning</string>
<string>com.android.vending</string>
<string>com.att.android.attsmartwifi</string>
<string>com.att.callprotect</string>
<string>com.att.csoiam.mobilekey</string>
<string>com.att.dh</string>
<string>com.att.dtv.shaderemote</string>
<string>com.att.iqi</string>
<string>com.att.mobilesecurity</string>
<string>com.att.myWireless</string>
<string>com.att.personalcloud</string>
<string>com.att.thanks</string>
<string>com.att.tv</string>
<string>com.drivemode</string>
<string>com.dti.att</string>
<string>com.enhance.gameservice</string>
<string>com.facebook.appmanager</string>
<string>com.facebook.katana</string>
<string>com.facebook.system</string>
<string>com.google.android.backuptransport</string>
<string>com.google.android.feedback</string>
<string>com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox</string>
<string>com.google.android.gsf</string>
<string>com.google.android.syncadapters.calendar</string>
<string>com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts</string>
<string>com.google.android.tts</string>
<string>com.google.android.youtube</string>
<string>com.google.ar.core</string>
<string>com.matchboxmobile.wisp</string>
<string>com.microsoft.appmanager</string>
<string>com.microsoft.skydrive</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.camera.sticker.facearavatar.preload</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.edgetouch</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.homestar</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.notes</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.routines</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.social</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.spage</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.app.tips</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.authfw</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.beaconmanager</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.agent.dummy</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.agent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.service</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.da.daagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.easysetup</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.fmm</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gametools</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.game.gos</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.ipsgeofence</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.kidsinstaller</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.lool</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.mateagent</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.net.wifi.wifiguider</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.samsungpass</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.samsungpassautofill</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.scloud</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.spayfw</string>
<string>com.samsung.android.wellbeing</string>
<string>com.samsung.desktopsystemui</string>
<string>com.samsung.safetyinformation</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.bixby2</string>
<string>com.samsung.systemui.notilus</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.cmas</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.desktoplauncher</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.dexonpc</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.safetyassurance</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.samsungapps</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.ve.vebgm</string>
<string>com.sec.android.app.wlantest</string>
<string>com.sec.android.daemonapp</string>
<string>com.sec.android.desktopcommunity</string>
<string>com.sec.android.desktopmode.uiservice</string>
<string>com.sec.android.service.health</string>
<string>com.sec.spp.push</string>
<string>com.synchronoss.dcs.att.r2g</string>
<string>com.wb.goog.got.conquest</string>
<string>com.ws.dm</string>
<string>com.wsomacp</string>
<string>eu.thedarken.sdm</string>
<string>flipboard.boxer.app</string>
<string>net.aetherpal.device</string>
<string>org.fdroid.fdroid</string>
<string>org.malwarebytes.antimalware</string>
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In Google Play Services>app permissions, disable all to get Google Transport Framework from using excessive battery. Google Transport Framework and Google Transport are package blocked as well. The former is the last step to shut these power sucking background apks down. So far I haven't lost any functionality I use.
Took me a year to track all of these down. Ha!
Should be 94 blocked apks, may have lost some in the confusion of manipulating the list.
Some of the blocked apks I've enabled the widget toogle to turn them off/on like Playstore.
•I'm running a 10+ on Pie... no idea how the Fold on Q will respond to this list but probably similarly.
•This list is customized for my set up and circumstances; each user's needs are different.
Best practice is to formulate your own list... the hard way. That way you'll learn what the apks you're blocking do and how the apks interact/their dependencies.
Hi, I've been with Google play Services since yesterday, draining my battery, they are always connected in the background.
I have deleted all the data, I have deleted the app updates but it is still the same.
Does anyone know what it is due to? any solution? format the phone?
Thank you.
Disable it when not needed.
Google Background Transport, Playstore and Gmail are dependencies of it. Even when behaving it's a power parasite.
If you factory reset the issue will likely return... don't attempt to fix it like that!
Clear system cache, use Device Care to clean storage, clear Google GMS data, disable Google Framework if present and Backup Transport*. Turn off Google Firebase.
You can also try deleting then recreating your Google account but like a factory reset don't expect miracles if you do... just wasted time.
*if consuming excess battery with screen off Backup Transport is a likely suspect.
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
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elevation_ph said:
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
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Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie, hasn't been updated in 2.5 years, it's current load will be 2 yo this June with minimal maintenance. It's still snappy fast and stable. Security simply isn't an issue. What's not to like?
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Update/upgrade at your own peril.
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What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
elevation_ph said:
What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
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Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
blackhawk said:
Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
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I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
elevation_ph said:
I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
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I don't know. Let me know if you find a good one.
I need one for my other N10+ running on Android 10...