With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
I'm wondering the same thing.
Oreo caches apps in the back ground.
It works, but I still use Greenify to clean up the apps that I do not want cached.
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km8j said:
With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
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I personally felt the need for greenify was obsolete since Nougat arrived. Also in my experience I found that using it was detrimental/made no difference to battery life over time.
When I first got my Pixel 2, idle drain seemed high, so I tried Greenify. It seemed to help. I then uninstalled Greenify and there was no difference in battery life. I now believe the initial drain was just part of the phone calibrating itself and Greenify did not really do anything.
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
k4r70ng said:
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
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Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
They still manage to run in the background for me Same with microsoft office apps!
foosion said:
Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
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I use Greenify to control the play store app, services framework, and other system apps that think they need to suck down the battery. I use Google Maps all the time but I don't want it running in the background when I am not using the phone. My phone is not rooted and I plan on keeping it that way for awhile. So far the battery is lasting a long time but I don't use the assistant or any other service that goes beyond making phone calls and texting. Facebook and the others can keep their battery draining apps to themselves.
I swapped out Greenify for Naptime. Naptime makes a difference.
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I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
Han Solo 1 said:
I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
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geenify all the other crappily written apps that you install. if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor. there are plenty of other apps that start up without you opening them that can be greenified.
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if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor.
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Have you tested that? I haven't but push notifications should wake up Gmail.
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stremax said:
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I agree that it's not good with apps with widgets on the home screen because the author of Greenify specify it, but I not agree for apps that need synchronization/notifications like emails, chat, messenger because it they use GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) they can be hibernated without lose push notifications!
I doubt only with system apps...
I have greenified quite everything that does not provide notification.
I use it for Facebook and Netflix, that helped my battery tremendously.
I used to use Greenify on my HTC One. I'd hibernate everything that wasn't 'system' and thought it was doing some good. Then I discovered that I was actually getting better battery life WITHOUT using it, so I don't really believe that it does any good.
To reiterate what others have said, I use to Greenify to hibernate any apps that aren't pushing me notifications. I'm honestly not sure if I see a huge difference in battery because it could be a number of things from changing ROMs or updating kernels, etc. But one thing for sure is that I'm actually pretty satisfied with the battery life on my N5. With the N4 I would be lucky to last me to dinner, but now I have plenty of battery to spare by the time I'm passing out in bed.
So I guess Greenify can potentially help battery life, but it's definitely not the answer to a magically longer lasting battery.
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I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
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Greenify is excellent. But using Greenify without knowing the cause of the problem isn't going to fix anything. Think of it as a bandaid. A bandaid for poorly written (usually intentionally) apps. Facebook comes to mind.
It won't greenify system apps without using Xposed (which doesn't work with ART). These system apps, Gmail, Chrome, Keep (I froze all the other junk Google apps), are actually pretty well behaved these days (they had huge issues in the past).
I think that with KitKat, Greenify has lost some of it's usefulness, with how aggressive KK is in killing off unused apps.
The app you should be downloading is BetterBatteryStats. Upload some logs for us, and most likely we can fix the problem for you. When the cause of the problem is determined, you can then choose the best course of action yourself.
The battery on the N5 is fine. I ran a BBS log while I was sleeping. After 6ish hours, the usage was 0.1% per hour. I would say anywhere between 0.1-0.4 is good. Wifi and mobile network, doesn't matter much if connection is solid.
anyways, greenify is not there to help battery, its there to have more free ram. but it can potentially help battery if you are running apps that open themselves and drain battery, like that aweful facebook app.
I have used apps such as "BetterBatteryStats" "AppOpsXposed" "Amplify" "PowerNap" "Greenify" to find apps that could and mostly should be frozen/disabled.
System apps can be frozen through titanium backup!
Free alternative debloating software!
Other recommendations
Disable CarrierIQ - http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/att-lg-g3-carrier-iq-removal-guide-t2819295
Amplify Extreme Battery Life Thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Let me know if you have any other suggestions!
soosoolhastam said:
I found some great information I wanted to share. Three apps ims, mlt, lte phone drain the battery severely. With our them, I have had normal battery life. 5 hrs or screen on time.
I attached a list of the bloatware I disabled with titanium backup.
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Need root though right.
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Ya buddy
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Ya buddy
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That sucks. I'm worried about rooting because I have the h950 and we have no way to return to stock yet.
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MLT can be disabled without root just by entering to the hidden menu.
Type 277634#*# in the dialer. Go to SVC Menu, then MLT.
Anyone use app ops to disable permissions like keep awake?
Which apps do you recommend?
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nikgl said:
MLT can be disabled without root just by entering to the hidden menu.
Type 277634#*# in the dialer. Go to SVC Menu, then MLT.
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Code not working for Sprint variant. Not seeing anything related to MLT after browsing 5689#*955#
soosoolhastam said:
Hey guys, I have made adjustments to my phone to increase battery life, remove bloatware, and decrease lag. They have significantly improved my phones experience.
Bettery battery life
App ops to disable keep awake of multiple apps like google play services and google now. Disable other permissions
Disable many of the useless google app wake up paths with greenfly or disable services
amplify xposed module
Safe bloatware list
I attached a list of the bloatware I disabled.
Decrease lag
Adjust thermal settings
Change cpu governor to interactive.
change i/o scheduler to noop and read ahead to 1024.
Let me know what you think!
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FYI, this list soft bricked my H950 5.1.1 v11x.
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FYI, this list soft bricked my H950 5.1.1 v11x.
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Sorry to hear that. I'm not sure why. I have the same things and more frozen along the same rom. Works fine.
Anyone else have this problem?
I'm afraid you might of froze an important system app
soosoolhastam said:
Sorry to hear that. I'm not sure why. I have the same things and more frozen along the same rom. Works fine.
Anyone else have this problem?
I'm afraid you might of froze an important system app
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I actually removed the apk's for all of the files noted in your thumbnails with titanium backup. That must have been the difference. So in your case you just froze everything with xposed?
How do you change the kernel & Cpu settings?
soosoolhastam said:
Hey guys, I have made adjustments to my phone to increase battery life, remove bloatware, and decrease lag. They have significantly improved my phones experience.
Bettery battery life
App ops to disable keep awake of multiple apps like google play services and google now. Disable other permissions
Disable many of the useless google app wake up paths with greenfly or disable services
amplify xposed module
Safe bloatware list
I attached a list of the bloatware I disabled.
Decrease lag
Adjust thermal settings
Change cpu governor to interactive.
change i/o scheduler to noop and read ahead to 1024.
Let me know what you think!
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Any way you could elaborate a bit more on how you performed everything?
epofhouston said:
How do you change the kernel & Cpu settings?
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i used kernel adiutor!
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Any way you could elaborate a bit more on how you performed everything?
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yes! done!
Do you really notice improvements in battery life?
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yes. The biggest improvement would be from the xposed amplify battery module.
Hi,
I'm considering to get the device soon but one thing that's frightening me is battery life and more precisely SOT :S
I've read that without these mods users gets 4 hours SOT in average.
Knowing that I have an heavy use of my smartphone (BT always on for my smartwatch, often streaming music in 3G/4G on Spotify, Facebook/Messenger sync, internet browsing and games ...) I wonder how much SOT/battery life do you get with these mods ?
I-Immortal said:
Hi,
I'm considering to get the device soon but one thing that's frightening me is battery life and more precisely SOT :S
I've read that without these mods users gets 4 hours SOT in average.
Knowing that I have an heavy use of my smartphone (BT always on for my smartwatch, often streaming music in 3G/4G on Spotify, Facebook/Messenger sync, internet browsing and games ...) I wonder how much SOT/battery life do you get with these mods ?
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Not much. Screen eats up alotta juice.
I-Immortal said:
Hi,
I'm considering to get the device soon but one thing that's frightening me is battery life and more precisely SOT :S
I've read that without these mods users gets 4 hours SOT in average.
Knowing that I have an heavy use of my smartphone (BT always on for my smartwatch, often streaming music in 3G/4G on Spotify, Facebook/Messenger sync, internet browsing and games ...) I wonder how much SOT/battery life do you get with these mods ?
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I get almost 5 hours, 4,5-5hs all over the day. I get up at 6am, and plug into wall at 11-12pm, no plug all day, all with sync, except g+. works mail 15 minutes, and the rest in stock. I have a lot of freezed apps, and removed too
rooted, h955ar rom over h950, removed almost all lg software and greenify only, I have premium, but no xposed.
When you-they say that task killers are bad, you also mean the stock task killer every phone have? I am talking about the one you enable it by long pressing the back ( or other ) key and then just press clean to delete all running apps.
Every app we open it must be killed/hibernated in order not to consume ram and battery. So we must put ALL the programs in greenify hibernation mode? :S
I am a little confused.
I have an Oppo Find 7a.. Should i use greenify or system battery/app management? And how?
Also i've installed Gsam Battery Monitor, but it doesnt seem to work well.. Sometimes timer reset, other time the app closes itself..
Also i noticed that youtube app doesn't display on greenify apps. Why?
Yes when people say that appkillers should not be used they mean also the android default app killing software. And they are right when they are saying that. Installing extra app killing software to your phone just consumes memory and battery life
And what about greenify?
I noticed that when i open the cm browser, also facebook opens! There is a wake-up path called << AttributionIdProvider>> which i cut it off..
Also there is another wake-up path for facebook something like this << lollipop update service >>.. What is it??
Should i cut it off also?
lazostat said:
And what about greenify?
I noticed that when i open the cm browser, also facebook opens! There is a wake-up path called << AttributionIdProvider>> which i cut it off..
Also there is another wake-up path for facebook something like this << lollipop update service >>.. What is it??
Should i cut it off also?
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I have not used Greenify so I cannot say anything about the features. To be honest, looking at the apps description I cannot see that it does anything special but prevent the apps from behaving the way they are designed to. Some individual apps may be poorly designed or implemented and may consume more battery life than necessary. In most of the cases doing this kind of hibernating will not help at all.
Most users say that greenify works very well.. I am surprised that you never heard of this program.
And what about battery monitor program? Should i have it ran all time?
lazostat said:
Most users say that greenify works very well.. I am surprised that you never heard of this program.
And what about battery monitor program? Should i have it ran all time?
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The purpose of battery monitor apps is to give you detailed information about battery consumption. You for example identify if some individual app is consuming too much battery for some reason. If you do not do anything with this information, there is no reason to keep the monitor app running.
The default closing of apps in the app drawer does not kill the app properly. Greenify completely stops the app via the app info or with root. All apps have to be hibernated in order to not consume battery but you should not hibernate apps that you want to have running in the background like whatsapp, hangouts, vpn, apps whose widgets you use etc. Youtube can not be hibernated because it is a preinstalled system app and these can only be hibernated if you pay for the Greenify donation package(which you absolutely should). For the Battery info app it depends on how it measures your battery usage. Try to hibernate it if it doest measure your battery stats remove it from the list again.
The more ram uses a program process background, the more battery it drains?
lazostat said:
The more ram uses a program process background, the more battery it drains?
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Not necessarily. But it's a good indicator. The most battery is consumed by internet traffic and the CPU/GPU when the display isn't on.
Hey guys just want to hear some opinion on weather or not it's worth using greenify if im already using smart manager? Is it worth having them both or greenify? If both should I have greenify optimized in smart manager or never, thanks!
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Wow no response lol. Anyway after having greenify installed my battery would drain alot faster so if anyone would like to know if your already using smart manager or when mm ever comes to s6 with dozen greenify is completely worthless.
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if you're rooted, then greenify becomes quite powerful. It completely eliminated the google services, and android OS battery drain.
I personally HATE smart manager because it's constantly prompts me to turn off apps that I frequently use (skype, msnger apps, etc).
If you're not rooted, I doubt greenify would do much more.
Rakcoon said:
if you're rooted, then greenify becomes quite powerful. It completely eliminated the google services, and android OS battery drain.
I personally HATE smart manager because it's constantly prompts me to turn off apps that I frequently use (skype, msnger apps, etc).
If you're not rooted, I doubt greenify would do much more.
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@Rakcoon, how? What are the disadvantages? Do you block location services, push, etc?
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I personally HATE smart manager because it's constantly prompts me to turn off apps that I frequently use (skype, msnger apps, etc).
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You can disable that...
Hi, I own the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra and I noticed after some research that the Bixby voice wake-up service uses more than 20% of the battery which is ridiculous since I don't even use Bixby. I turned off Bixby voice wake-up toggle but that didn't change anything and I still find this among the running services under the developers' menu.
Did anyone else notice this? is there a way to disable it permanently? I even tried blocking it using the alliance shield x but it didn't work and it remained active
Update your apps to the latest version using Galaxy Store. Few years back when Google Play Services used to cause serious battery drain, a simple updated used to solve the problem.
Use GSam Battery Monitor to find out what is really eating up your kidney.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Update your apps to the latest version using Galaxy Store. Few years back when Google Play Services used to cause serious battery drain, a simple updated used to solve the problem.
Use GSam Battery Monitor to find out what is really eating up your kidney.
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all of the apps are updated. And it states clearly in the picture attached that it used 22% so why would I need another app? I mean I already know what drains the battery
ghassan haddad said:
all of the apps are updated. And it states clearly in the picture attached that it used 22% so why would I need another app? I mean I already know what drains the battery
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Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
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Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
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No need to apologize. On the contrary, it was me who didn't get your post very well. You are definitely right. Some services aren't stand-alone and they are usually linked to other apps or packages. But I will disable this service anyway using ADB and check if it disappears from the list.
Did u solve the promblem?i need serios help...mine is draining 40% of the battery
Mohamedkam000 said:
Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
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Help me pleas though