I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
Han Solo 1 said:
I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
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geenify all the other crappily written apps that you install. if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor. there are plenty of other apps that start up without you opening them that can be greenified.
simms22 said:
if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor.
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Have you tested that? I haven't but push notifications should wake up Gmail.
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stremax said:
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I agree that it's not good with apps with widgets on the home screen because the author of Greenify specify it, but I not agree for apps that need synchronization/notifications like emails, chat, messenger because it they use GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) they can be hibernated without lose push notifications!
I doubt only with system apps...
I have greenified quite everything that does not provide notification.
I use it for Facebook and Netflix, that helped my battery tremendously.
I used to use Greenify on my HTC One. I'd hibernate everything that wasn't 'system' and thought it was doing some good. Then I discovered that I was actually getting better battery life WITHOUT using it, so I don't really believe that it does any good.
To reiterate what others have said, I use to Greenify to hibernate any apps that aren't pushing me notifications. I'm honestly not sure if I see a huge difference in battery because it could be a number of things from changing ROMs or updating kernels, etc. But one thing for sure is that I'm actually pretty satisfied with the battery life on my N5. With the N4 I would be lucky to last me to dinner, but now I have plenty of battery to spare by the time I'm passing out in bed.
So I guess Greenify can potentially help battery life, but it's definitely not the answer to a magically longer lasting battery.
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I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
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Greenify is excellent. But using Greenify without knowing the cause of the problem isn't going to fix anything. Think of it as a bandaid. A bandaid for poorly written (usually intentionally) apps. Facebook comes to mind.
It won't greenify system apps without using Xposed (which doesn't work with ART). These system apps, Gmail, Chrome, Keep (I froze all the other junk Google apps), are actually pretty well behaved these days (they had huge issues in the past).
I think that with KitKat, Greenify has lost some of it's usefulness, with how aggressive KK is in killing off unused apps.
The app you should be downloading is BetterBatteryStats. Upload some logs for us, and most likely we can fix the problem for you. When the cause of the problem is determined, you can then choose the best course of action yourself.
The battery on the N5 is fine. I ran a BBS log while I was sleeping. After 6ish hours, the usage was 0.1% per hour. I would say anywhere between 0.1-0.4 is good. Wifi and mobile network, doesn't matter much if connection is solid.
anyways, greenify is not there to help battery, its there to have more free ram. but it can potentially help battery if you are running apps that open themselves and drain battery, like that aweful facebook app.
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So here's my train of thought,
Lollipop put an end to the clear all recent apps button. This caused me to recall something I read on slimroms website a while back regarding why slim recents doesn't have a clear all button either. If I remember correctly, basically they said that the way Linux works, opening an app in it's closed state calls on more ram or cpu than it would if it were just running in the background - so what does this say for greenify? I'm certainly no computer science expert so I could totally be misunderstanding, but if someone could clear this up for me id really appreciate it. Is hibernating my apps saving my battery? Or is the extra effort of opening them back up draining my battery?
Thanks!
First of all, slims rom you close all recent app by pinching it. There is no button. Also, with gcm push abilities, apps like Facebook and whatsapp saves battery by hibernating and using greenify to act as a proxy when a push notification comes in. Google gcm greenify for more details. It isn't about the battery loss in restarting an app but rather what that app is doing while on in the background. Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the response, I'll have to research a little to wrap my head around it entirely, but I think I understand. Just for reference though, here is the link to the slimrom thing I mentioned:
http://slimroms.net/index.php/faq/slimbean/414-will-you-add-the-kill-all-in-recents
I use LiquidSmooth, which is based on SlimKat, and the pinch to kill all works on it. That said, it really is better to simply kill only the apps you don't want running in the background. If you keep killing apps you frequently use, your phone has to re-load them from storage each time, which takes time, processing power, and battery juice.
Similarly, Greenify is indeed best used to hibernate apps that you don't want running in the background. For example, frequently use Facebook, Words with Friends, Wikipedia, Dolphin, RealCalc, etc. I want to keep these running. Other apps, like the T-Mobile account app, or my banking app, I don't want/need running constantly in the background, so they get Greenified.
Another way to go about this is to use a task killer like Clean Master, but whitelist apps you frequently use.
Greenify is probably one of the best apps for battery saving. It will get the most of your device and it will surely save you tons of battery life.
Greenify is created by the famous Android developers from “XDA developers”. The developers from this website are one of the best in the world and they received amazing critical acclaim from all around the world.
Back to Greenify. It is an app that has the capability to reduce the battery consumption on any Android device. Most of the manifucturers still haven’t found the correct solution for decreasing the battery consumption, most of their solutions work by automatically turning off Wi-Fi, GPS, reducing the brightness, etc. They don’t have meaningful effect on your device’s battery life.
Any Android device can do self-initiative and automatic checks about anything new in any application, especially when you install new apps or update them.
Facebook, EMail, Twitter, Google+, Whatsapp, Tango have processes that are constantly working in the background. On top of that, there are is also a great amount of software already installed by the manufacturer of the device (bloatware), as well as the provider whose services you use. Most of these applications are constantly open, consuming the phone’s resources (CPU, RAM), spending your 3G/4G internet, and they are biggest culprits for excessive daytime consumption of your battery.
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The Greenify Donation add on is well worth the few dollars it costs as well. If you get the add on then go into the settings, it makes system app hibernation and deep hibernation options available for use. Greenify is the one app that truly saves battery without freezing or disabling the app. There is no performance loss or app failure when putting apps into hibernation. One thing to keep in mind is that it is regularly getting updated to accommodate new devices and Android updates. Always back up your current version because some updates may not auto hibernate as well as the previous version etc.
If you get Greenify and GSam with the paid add on you will be able to greatly reduce wasted battery drain and quickly identify wakelock services
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What do you think about "Hibernation Manager "? What is better?
Hey guys just want to hear some opinion on weather or not it's worth using greenify if im already using smart manager? Is it worth having them both or greenify? If both should I have greenify optimized in smart manager or never, thanks!
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Wow no response lol. Anyway after having greenify installed my battery would drain alot faster so if anyone would like to know if your already using smart manager or when mm ever comes to s6 with dozen greenify is completely worthless.
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if you're rooted, then greenify becomes quite powerful. It completely eliminated the google services, and android OS battery drain.
I personally HATE smart manager because it's constantly prompts me to turn off apps that I frequently use (skype, msnger apps, etc).
If you're not rooted, I doubt greenify would do much more.
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if you're rooted, then greenify becomes quite powerful. It completely eliminated the google services, and android OS battery drain.
I personally HATE smart manager because it's constantly prompts me to turn off apps that I frequently use (skype, msnger apps, etc).
If you're not rooted, I doubt greenify would do much more.
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@Rakcoon, how? What are the disadvantages? Do you block location services, push, etc?
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I personally HATE smart manager because it's constantly prompts me to turn off apps that I frequently use (skype, msnger apps, etc).
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You can disable that...
With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
I'm wondering the same thing.
Oreo caches apps in the back ground.
It works, but I still use Greenify to clean up the apps that I do not want cached.
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With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
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I personally felt the need for greenify was obsolete since Nougat arrived. Also in my experience I found that using it was detrimental/made no difference to battery life over time.
When I first got my Pixel 2, idle drain seemed high, so I tried Greenify. It seemed to help. I then uninstalled Greenify and there was no difference in battery life. I now believe the initial drain was just part of the phone calibrating itself and Greenify did not really do anything.
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
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For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
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Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
They still manage to run in the background for me Same with microsoft office apps!
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Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
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I use Greenify to control the play store app, services framework, and other system apps that think they need to suck down the battery. I use Google Maps all the time but I don't want it running in the background when I am not using the phone. My phone is not rooted and I plan on keeping it that way for awhile. So far the battery is lasting a long time but I don't use the assistant or any other service that goes beyond making phone calls and texting. Facebook and the others can keep their battery draining apps to themselves.
I swapped out Greenify for Naptime. Naptime makes a difference.
I use like 150 apps installed in the phone.
Tried pie open beta(and also other custom roms) with kernels and other greenify apps but battery sticks with 5 to 6 screen on time.
I feel grateful if someone can help me getting the backup 7 or 7+.
I hear some guys are getting 8 and plus sot. I don't know how if everyone is using the same phone. I don't use phone for gaming. My usage involves with social media, YouTube, chats and 40 to 60 minutes using maps and gps.
Is it because of number of apps installed?
It's not about apps installed unless they keep the phone awake at all time, wish I don't think they do.
Unfortunately the best thing to do is just stop using social media lol.. Facebook and snapchat atleast.. Those apps are true battery killers.
If you feel like Facebook is really something you NEED in your life then skip the app and use the browser instead.
The other thing is making sure apps that you don't need notifications from is blocked from background usage in Battery, total usage, click the app you know you can block and select background usage, block
Last is managing the brightness, now there are times for full blast on the display and there is times for low light, don't let the screen blast your eyes if it's not needed to.
whizeguy said:
Unfortunately the best thing to do is just stop using social media lol.. Facebook and snapchat atleast.. Those apps are true battery killers.
If you feel like Facebook is really something you NEED in your life then skip the app and use the browser instead.
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I agree... Facebook is a Hog. And they push you into using Facebook messenger as well... :-/
I use this... It's a pretty slick front-end for Facebook that uses little of the resources that the app does. It also let's you use messenger without installing it on mobile!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jesture.phoenix
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harigavara said:
I use like 150 apps installed in the phone.
Tried pie open beta(and also other custom roms) with kernels and other greenify apps but battery sticks with 5 to 6 screen on time.
I feel grateful if someone can help me getting the backup 7 or 7+.
I hear some guys are getting 8 and plus sot. I don't know how if everyone is using the same phone. I don't use phone for gaming. My usage involves with social media, YouTube, chats and 40 to 60 minutes using maps and gps.
Is it because of number of apps installed?
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150 apps lol, how can you manage so much, I think just a simple browser can help you get rid of atleast 100 of them. I never understand the need of app which works on a site on a desktop. Just to keep track of your location and what you are searching online, these apps track you and kills your battery. Go smart, use no tracking browser like bromite and live the freedom.
Now for ROM part, I get the best battery with any OOS + elementalX kernel. None of the custom rom are better than OOS and yes don't forget to remove all Google apps and OnePlus apps, they track you.
Also install betterbatterystats to check what is killing your battery, I easily get upto 8 hrs. of sot if no pubg.