Guys, how to automatically turn off the running application?
I feel very upset because my application like Maps, Market, Gmail, etc, always automatically running without my permission.
Because of that, i always manually kill that apps with Task Killer. But, not much later, it was running again!!!! Please help me guys, How to automatically turn off the apps? and never running again without my permission
u dont have to close those apps...doing so would result in wasted battery life as the app/process would start again on its own...
using task killers is NOT AT ALL advisable on android 2.2+, because android has ram management built in...
kill (better if u uninstall) only rogue apps, like i had this wallpaper app which used to constantly start by itself, and i was better off unistalling it....rather than killing it every time it started...
and its not advisable to uninstall google apps like gmail and maps, and these will keep running passively in the background...and they are harmless...so no reason to worry about them....
try using titanium backup...freeze the apps you dont want to run(works only on titanium backup premium...
i think this might help
a.cid said:
u dont have to close those apps...doing so would result in wasted battery life as the app/process would start again on its own...
using task killers is NOT AT ALL advisable on android 2.2+, because android has ram management built in...
kill (better if u uninstall) only rogue apps, like i had this wallpaper app which used to constantly start by itself, and i was better off unistalling it....rather than killing it every time it started...
and its not advisable to uninstall google apps like gmail and maps, and these will keep running passively in the background...and they are harmless...so no reason to worry about them....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but, it can "eat" my ram performance right?
hebosto said:
but, it can "eat" my ram performance right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i didnt get you properly....ram performance on android (based on linux) is different than what it is on windows...
here ram in use is not neccessarily bad, because it manages ram differently....if any app actively requires ram, then android closes passive apps itself.....
and if ur phone feels laggy, then its because an app/process is actively using cpu, rather than ram...if you understand what i mean....
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
i just complied info
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
hope u understood!
words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
I've never used those programs, I like to use what the phones have by default
But is good to know anyways
I agree with that...to an extent
Auto killing apps is plain stupid, but I do believe in killing certain apps. In a perfect world heavy apps would just be uninstalled, but plenty of useful apps without good replacements are fairly heavy, and it helps to kill them. E.g. after exiting a game I will kill it because its hogging up valuable ram by running in the background, while still using he same resources it uses at the forefront.
I understand that android, and Linux should manage ram well, but more often then not some app is just out there slowing my phone down. Even an hour later of not using that app, it'll still be in the background using up a lot of CPU and ram I don't have (more importantly battery). Android is great at managing smaller apps, but in my experience, it sucks at doing the same for larger apps.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda app-developers app
I don't use automatic task killers, those that are constantly running, but i do kill unused tasks and apps with no reason to be still running. Google services is a common example. It will launch at boot and keep running peemanently, even if you never launch a google app, google services is running, why?
A lot of apps, mostly the free ones, get revenue by reporting anonymous usage statistics (not so anonymous in some cases). So they stick a running service even if the app is never launched again (sometimes even if it isn't launched in the first place).
To sum up, killing everything is bad, but leaving everything to run free can also decrease performance. This can be observed on an android device that has been running for a long time, versus an android device that's just been reset.
some unused tasks will repeatedly rerun even if killed.
This will further decrease battery life and affect performance as resources are needed to keep restarting it.
The best way is to ignore if it takes a small portion of resources or to uninstall the app. Rooted users may disable the triggers via certain apps.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
In phones with very low RAM, this becomes a necessity.
Switching programs take up a lot of time to process unless there is a sizable free RAM
Markuzy said:
some unused tasks will repeatedly rerun even if killed.
This will further decrease battery life and affect performance as resources are needed to keep restarting it.
The best way is to ignore if it takes a small portion of resources or to uninstall the app. Rooted users may disable the triggers via certain apps.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
use auto run manager
it is the answer to most of every body's problems
DarthSimian said:
In phones with very low RAM, this becomes a necessity.
Switching programs take up a lot of time to process unless there is a sizable free RAM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if u have low RAM, please manually remove the apps!
dxppxd said:
I don't use automatic task killers, those that are constantly running, but i do kill unused tasks and apps with no reason to be still running. Google services is a common example. It will launch at boot and keep running peemanently, even if you never launch a google app, google services is running, why?
A lot of apps, mostly the free ones, get revenue by reporting anonymous usage statistics (not so anonymous in some cases). So they stick a running service even if the app is never launched again (sometimes even if it isn't launched in the first place).
To sum up, killing everything is bad, but leaving everything to run free can also decrease performance. This can be observed on an android device that has been running for a long time, versus an android device that's just been reset.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
use autorun manager, keep it simple
dxppxd said:
I don't use automatic task killers, those that are constantly running, but i do kill unused tasks and apps with no reason to be still running. Google services is a common example. It will launch at boot and keep running peemanently, even if you never launch a google app, google services is running, why?
A lot of apps, mostly the free ones, get revenue by reporting anonymous usage statistics (not so anonymous in some cases). So they stick a running service even if the app is never launched again (sometimes even if it isn't launched in the first place).
To sum up, killing everything is bad, but leaving everything to run free can also decrease performance. This can be observed on an android device that has been running for a long time, versus an android device that's just been reset.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
let me tell you something about google services...
when you installed your rom, you had to check two options from google services - location and another one.
if you are on stock, those options are available in settings also.
the google services are needed (you are running a google os, right?) because without it, the location feature will not work, the play store will give you headaches and not to mention, google now that needs that service like water.
if you kill that process over and over again you will not gain anything because that service will keep restarting it until you will give up. ah, you will loose a massive amount of battery if you do so
another thing, the google service is a system app. system apps have priority in resources so even if you kill now, as i said, it will restart after a few seconds because some apps that you are running are requesting that service.
as someone said here, yes, even I kill games after I stop playing, BUT, I do it from the task manager built in. Settings - Apps - Running apps etc.
1ceb0x said:
let me tell you something about google services...
when you installed your rom, you had to check two options from google services - location and another one.
if you are on stock, those options are available in settings also.
the google services are needed (you are running a google os, right?) because without it, the location feature will not work, the play store will give you headaches and not to mention, google now that needs that service like water.
if you kill that process over and over again you will not gain anything because that service will keep restarting it until you will give up. ah, you will loose a massive amount of battery if you do so
another thing, the google service is a system app. system apps have priority in resources so even if you kill now, as i said, it will restart after a few seconds because some apps that you are running are requesting that service.
as someone said here, yes, even I kill games after I stop playing, BUT, I do it from the task manager built in. Settings - Apps - Running apps etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if u dont want them to restart use, autorun manager
task killer
Well, i think a task killer is useful. It sometimes helps to speed-up the phone a bit.
snelle-eddie said:
Well, i think a task killer is useful. It sometimes helps to speed-up the phone a bit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No that is wrong.....it consumes more ram it self
Sent from my One V
Normally to kill a process I use the Running Tab in Apps, If any recently opened app which I feel should be closed is open I kill it!Though I leave the google services untouched!
Stopped using Task managers and Battery saving apps long time ago!
Want to really save the juice? Try Under Clocking! and killing the bloatware(saves RAM too!)
I used to have a task killer but the more I killed apps, the slower my phone was, so I eventually ended uninstalling it.
great post. lots of usefull info!!
Instead of using a task killer to keep on eating your battery life, simply either delete the app or disable it in your system if it's a system out (eg: default browser, bloatware, etc).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zomut.watchdog&feature=search_result
its good, but most android users atleaast ppl like me know which apps are usefull and which are not
cybervibin said:
its good, but most android users atleaast ppl like me know which apps are usefull and which are not
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Assuming you are replying to me, your response is a bit ambiguous...
So here's my train of thought,
Lollipop put an end to the clear all recent apps button. This caused me to recall something I read on slimroms website a while back regarding why slim recents doesn't have a clear all button either. If I remember correctly, basically they said that the way Linux works, opening an app in it's closed state calls on more ram or cpu than it would if it were just running in the background - so what does this say for greenify? I'm certainly no computer science expert so I could totally be misunderstanding, but if someone could clear this up for me id really appreciate it. Is hibernating my apps saving my battery? Or is the extra effort of opening them back up draining my battery?
Thanks!
First of all, slims rom you close all recent app by pinching it. There is no button. Also, with gcm push abilities, apps like Facebook and whatsapp saves battery by hibernating and using greenify to act as a proxy when a push notification comes in. Google gcm greenify for more details. It isn't about the battery loss in restarting an app but rather what that app is doing while on in the background. Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the response, I'll have to research a little to wrap my head around it entirely, but I think I understand. Just for reference though, here is the link to the slimrom thing I mentioned:
http://slimroms.net/index.php/faq/slimbean/414-will-you-add-the-kill-all-in-recents
I use LiquidSmooth, which is based on SlimKat, and the pinch to kill all works on it. That said, it really is better to simply kill only the apps you don't want running in the background. If you keep killing apps you frequently use, your phone has to re-load them from storage each time, which takes time, processing power, and battery juice.
Similarly, Greenify is indeed best used to hibernate apps that you don't want running in the background. For example, frequently use Facebook, Words with Friends, Wikipedia, Dolphin, RealCalc, etc. I want to keep these running. Other apps, like the T-Mobile account app, or my banking app, I don't want/need running constantly in the background, so they get Greenified.
Another way to go about this is to use a task killer like Clean Master, but whitelist apps you frequently use.
With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
I'm wondering the same thing.
Oreo caches apps in the back ground.
It works, but I still use Greenify to clean up the apps that I do not want cached.
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
km8j said:
With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I personally felt the need for greenify was obsolete since Nougat arrived. Also in my experience I found that using it was detrimental/made no difference to battery life over time.
When I first got my Pixel 2, idle drain seemed high, so I tried Greenify. It seemed to help. I then uninstalled Greenify and there was no difference in battery life. I now believe the initial drain was just part of the phone calibrating itself and Greenify did not really do anything.
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
k4r70ng said:
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
They still manage to run in the background for me Same with microsoft office apps!
foosion said:
Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use Greenify to control the play store app, services framework, and other system apps that think they need to suck down the battery. I use Google Maps all the time but I don't want it running in the background when I am not using the phone. My phone is not rooted and I plan on keeping it that way for awhile. So far the battery is lasting a long time but I don't use the assistant or any other service that goes beyond making phone calls and texting. Facebook and the others can keep their battery draining apps to themselves.
I swapped out Greenify for Naptime. Naptime makes a difference.
Hi, I own the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra and I noticed after some research that the Bixby voice wake-up service uses more than 20% of the battery which is ridiculous since I don't even use Bixby. I turned off Bixby voice wake-up toggle but that didn't change anything and I still find this among the running services under the developers' menu.
Did anyone else notice this? is there a way to disable it permanently? I even tried blocking it using the alliance shield x but it didn't work and it remained active
Update your apps to the latest version using Galaxy Store. Few years back when Google Play Services used to cause serious battery drain, a simple updated used to solve the problem.
Use GSam Battery Monitor to find out what is really eating up your kidney.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Update your apps to the latest version using Galaxy Store. Few years back when Google Play Services used to cause serious battery drain, a simple updated used to solve the problem.
Use GSam Battery Monitor to find out what is really eating up your kidney.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
all of the apps are updated. And it states clearly in the picture attached that it used 22% so why would I need another app? I mean I already know what drains the battery
ghassan haddad said:
all of the apps are updated. And it states clearly in the picture attached that it used 22% so why would I need another app? I mean I already know what drains the battery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No need to apologize. On the contrary, it was me who didn't get your post very well. You are definitely right. Some services aren't stand-alone and they are usually linked to other apps or packages. But I will disable this service anyway using ADB and check if it disappears from the list.
Did u solve the promblem?i need serios help...mine is draining 40% of the battery
Mohamedkam000 said:
Apologies, I did not mean to underestimate your knowledge. Some system apps are tied with other packages, for an example, Android Framework app is located at /system/framework/framework-res.apk, this is one APK.
But many many apps demand it, so they are tied together. If one of the tied apps drained 17% of battery, it'll show you that Android OS app (AKA Android Framework app) has drained that much of energy.
Whilst the fact could be different, that's why simple battery stats is not totally accurate.
If you are consistent in your position, you can disable Bixby Voice through ADB.
* The attached screenshot is from data usage info, just to show you that there is apps linked to other apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Help me pleas though