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Hey guys,
So I got this Samsung wireless charger that is supposedly 'original' from Aliexpress.
There's actually a fan inside and it does say that it's fast wirelessly charging on the phone. However it is not that fast - 15% in 40 minutes. What speeds do you get with your wireless chargers? I'm using the original wall adapter from Samsung (9V 1.67A one).
Koostis said:
So I got this Samsung wireless charger that is supposedly 'original' from Aliexpress.
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If it cost less than from the samsung store then its not original, it does take 4 hours to charge the phone with the cheap wireless charger.
Of the ones I've used even with my S5, I found the cable and power supply are critical. Lastly the placement on the charger. All of mine have come from an Aliexpress seller. I can't tell you exact times but I know they charge as fast as the phone will allow before overheating. Not to say some sources aren't bad. Just my luck has been good. I even converted some of my S5 vehicle charge pads, simply by adjusting the charge center, and have continued to use them. Anyway, try different cables and usb supplies. if the phone doesn't get warm or better it isn't charging fast.
I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
Wireless charging is not as fast. Note9 also uses adaptive fast charging 2.0. Fast but not as fast as other standards. I would concern myself about fast charging only when needed. I use wireless charging exclusively at night to slow charge my battery. I think Samsung chose adaptive 2.0 to help with longevity of phone because fast charging does not help with longevity of battery. I am still pressuring companies to unseal the batteries. The environment is more important than being able to take a shower with your phone or not having to worry about dropping it in the toilet because you can't wait five minutes.
The appeal of wireless charging is so you didn't have to reach for a power cord to plug in your phone every time you wanted to charge it. I just upgraded to the Note 9 from my Note 4. When I had a new battery in it, wireless charging only took about 20 minutes longer than the cord. As the battery got older, it did seem to take longer with the wireless charging. For me, if I'm just at home, I use wireless charging. If I'm about to go out in the next 30 minutes for a while and the battery power is kinda low, I plug it in to get a fast full charge. Plugging in the phone all the time is a drag. You are missing out on a cool feature while wasting years waiting for something better. I keep a separate power cord next to my wireless charger. That way I can decide if I just want the phone to get charged using wireless, or if I need a fast quick charge with the cord. You aren't just stuck with wireless charging just because you bought one. A flat wireless charger is just $15 on Amazon. It works just as well as the $60 Duo charger from Samsung, although it does offer fast charging. Not worth that kind of money though. Plus it is big and takes up too much space.
wbarnes4393 said:
I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
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The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
Tidbits said:
The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
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I have one. Works well. Got it from Indiegogo, backed a project called the MAGQI X: The Smartest Wireless Car Charger Mount...
It charges faily well but I did find on my Note 8 it was only just holding power as I used GPS...Mind you, that could be caused by the case I had it in, my Note 9 seems to pick up the power pretty quick...
So, can the Note 9 handle the 12W wireless charge or is it limited to 10W? I see the comment above regarding the Duo Dock, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it supports it and I have not been able to find the exact spec on the matter elsewhere to confirm one way or another.
Post Android Pie update I've noticed issues with the PD rapid charging. The original usb-c cable that came with the phone no longer works but I had no issues with the replacements but now occasionally I have to unplug/replug or reboot my phone in order for it to activate the "rapid charge" mode. I've tested this at various battery levels, power supply's and in general it doesn't seem to activate like it used to. My 3rd party Auckley charger was great but now I get more out of the 2.4A USB-A port than the USB-C PD/QC port.
I've heard the rapid charge feature hasn't been working correctly on Pixel's post update and was wondering if the causes were related? I'm hoping Essential responds to my concerns and if the issue is widespread issues a fix.
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Post Android Pie update I've noticed issues with the PD rapid charging. The original usb-c cable that came with the phone no longer works but I had no issues with the replacements but now occasionally I have to unplug/replug or reboot my phone in order for it to activate the "rapid charge" mode. I've tested this at various battery levels, power supply's and in general it doesn't seem to activate like it used to. My 3rd party Auckley charger was great but now I get more out of the 2.4A USB-A port than the USB-C PD/QC port.
I've heard the rapid charge feature hasn't been working correctly on Pixel's post update and was wondering if the causes were related? I'm hoping Essential responds to my concerns and if the issue is widespread issues a fix.
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I did a clean install of P and I am not having issues.
Factory and 3rd party cables and chargers work fine.
Similar problem here except OEM cable works fine; 3rd party cables are having the problems you describe.
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Similar problem here except OEM cable works fine; 3rd party cables are having the problems you describe.
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I suspect some 3rd party stuff is not really PD capable.
3rd Party VS OEM
I accept that some 3rd Party stuff may not be up to the same standards as OEM stuff but they (different USB-C cables) worked before the update and stopped after... If it was a single type/set up I would accept that as the cause but in this case it has happened with several different ones so I'm thinking it's a broader issue.
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I accept that some 3rd Party stuff may not be up to the same standards as OEM stuff but they (different USB-C cables) worked before the update and stopped after... If it was a single type/set up I would accept that as the cause but in this case it has happened with several different ones so I'm thinking it's a broader issue.
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There is a handshake protocol and maybe there is a more strict adherence to the handshake?
I'm experiencing the same issue. Some PD chargers work; some do not. I just got my PH-1, so I'd never charged it prior to Pie.
Make sure your PD charger can do 9v and 12v for fast charge.
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Post Android Pie update I've noticed issues with the PD rapid charging. The original usb-c cable that came with the phone no longer works but I had no issues with the replacements but now occasionally I have to unplug/replug or reboot my phone in order for it to activate the "rapid charge" mode. I've tested this at various battery levels, power supply's and in general it doesn't seem to activate like it used to. My 3rd party Auckley charger was great but now I get more out of the 2.4A USB-A port than the USB-C PD/QC port.
I've heard the rapid charge feature hasn't been working correctly on Pixel's post update and was wondering if the causes were related? I'm hoping Essential responds to my concerns and if the issue is widespread issues a fix.
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Finally yes I have this issue almost thrice a week dunno what causes it considering to factory reset.
got the same issue I have to plug in and pull out the cable one, two, three times until fast charging works!
Same issue... Using ampere to test and a few cables as well.. same issue.
I have some issue, how to fix it?
i'm going to revive this thread quick. Just got a Aukey PA-D1 (https://www.aukey.com/products/dual-port-30w-pd-wall-charger-with-dynamic-detect) and a matching type c-type c cable from them. plug the phone in and it goes from charging slowly, to rapidly, then drops completely, then restarts that whole sequence over and over. usually a restart will fix it, but its every time i plug it in. has anyone found an answer as to why this does this?
btw, running latest android 9, with june patch....
It happens to me only with power bank that supports PD.
It says charging slowly, normal, rapidly and disconnect.
Tried it with Galaxy s8, Galaxy note 8, lg g6 and it charge them great, without disconnect and with speed charge.
Also tried few cables, original cable and 3rd party who supports PD charge.
forzdaZE96 said:
i'm going to revive this thread quick. Just got a Aukey PA-D1 (https://www.aukey.com/products/dual-port-30w-pd-wall-charger-with-dynamic-detect) and a matching type c-type c cable from them. plug the phone in and it goes from charging slowly, to rapidly, then drops completely, then restarts that whole sequence over and over. usually a restart will fix it, but its every time i plug it in. has anyone found an answer as to why this does this?
btw, running latest android 9, with june patch....
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This has happened to me since I've owned the phone on one of my car chargers I own. It's just that one charger too. Issue has survived one RMA and multiple cables being used. In general I just plug it in and check in couple minutes to make sure it says fast charging and if not, unplug and replug it in.
Who knows if it's the charger's fault or essentials fault. I'm kinda leaning essential because it works just fine on my wife's pixel but the pixel is much more "understanding" in general when it comes to chargers (like it seems to fast charge on qc 3.0 too).
Anyone on Q beta seeing this?
I have been seeing this issue with 3rd party charger for months. I am wondering if anyone who has tried Q beta saw this issue resolved in Q beta.
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I have been seeing this issue with 3rd party charger for months. I am wondering if anyone who has tried Q beta saw this issue resolved in Q beta.
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My understanding is Quick Charge is broken...
So if the wallwart supports QuickCharge in anyway... It's trouble...
It has been that way for me on every iteration and security patch going back to 11/17 or so...
Somewhere... Way deep in the forum covered by ETA requests and useless banter... There's an article linked about how the PH-1 requests too much voltage from QuickCharge and forces it to reset...
This is an issue at the hardware level... And the only workaround is to make sure your charge brick does not support QC at all
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Just figured I'd chime in as well. I'm experiencing the "Charging / Charging Slowly / Charging Rapidly" issue with my USB-C Car charger. One a Verizon branded and one an Anker branded. I know the Anker one is a "Q.C." one because it says it right on the device - but with the Q.C. enabled one, I only get "Charging Slowly" on it (so slow in fact, that the battery actually drains on the device). With the Verizon charger, I get the "charging loop".
Q beta 4 resolved this issue for me but it's back on both beta 5 and 6 . I've tried the OEM charger, a Nexus 6p charger, a OnePlus 7 charger and a Samsung Galaxy note 9 charger. They all cycle between charging slowly/ charging/ charging rapidly and not charging.
Has absolutely nothing to do with third party cables not being up to Power Delivery specification (at least in my extensive experience with this God-forsaken no end in sight charge speed bug. I've had absolutely asinine experiences with it myself where I've routinely {more than 25% of the time) had under 1000ma upon fresh plug in with battery below 30%. Also worth noting that I've seen the problem albeit less often pop up with USB a to c cables and ports as well.
I have a basic cheap qi charger I used with my last phone, never had an issue. With my Mi 10 Ultra it only charges correctly like 1/10 times when I place it down on the charger. The weird thing is it shows it's charging, the pad and phone get warm which means electricity is flowing somehow, but the phone drops in battery instead of charging... I don't even know what to say or do. Kind of tempted to buy that 55w wireless charger though.
I had a similar issue but found that I had a few stock apps going in the background draining the battery quicker than it could charge (it was a cheap low wattage charger). Force closed the apps and killed a couple of processes and it steadily increased. Not ideal but I took that as a sign of using a cheap wireless charger.
Still on the stock chinese Rom until I get out of unlock jail so if you're on the EU Rom this might not help.
I bought the 55W wireless charger with my phone and it's brilliant.
I tested my previous Samsung 15w wireless charger & Huawei 15w charger with the Ultra and the charging speed was a trickle (according to Accubattery app) and near unusable on the phone so will probably go for the Xiaomi 55w charger from Aliexpress which some sellers seem to be offering the 65w charging brick with.
Will sell the 2 chargers I have whci should pay for the replacement
Does anyone have a source other than aliexpress/baba for the 55w wireless charger? I don't want to wait over a month for it.
Eh... I found other sites where it cost more and took longer to ship. I decided the fastest way to get it was to buy it from the fastest shipping seller on aliexpress and not delay any more
mine seems to have stopped saying fast charging when using my wireless charger, possibly since moving to the EU rom.
Just as proof this phone has something fundamentally wrong with its Qi charging compatibility, the charger only draws 2-3w from the wall when it's not working right. It uses 8+ when it's charging right. That's not the charger. The phone is doing something wrong.
2-3w appears to be what it draws when it's doing the detection algorithm to make sure it's compatible and will accept a charge. It does the same thing on my old s20+ but then goes up in wattage when it's actually charging to 9+.
I am using the 20W wireless car charger together with the 55W wireless charger (with 65watt GAN charger), and both of them works fine and fast. Just to beware that the car wireless charger is quite heavy and may stress your AC vents.
Something has definitely changed since moving to the EU rom. On the CN rom, it would activate the fan in my Huawei charger and say fast charging, now no fan and no fast charging.
Have you added it as a bug on the EU forum. It's ok noting it here but it needs to go on the bugs list to be noticed
I just got a Note 20 Ultra and the wireless fast charger I've been using (including on S20+) will not work. I get a notification that says: Fast wireless charging unavailable. This fast wireless charger isn't compatible with your phone, so you're charging at standard speed.
This is just all kinds of annoying because I have lots of third party wireless chargers and it seems like Samsung is pulling an Apple move by making people use their own accessories. Is there some way around this so that I can fast charge with the chargers I have? This is the kind of thing that pushed me away from Apple and Samsung is doing more and more of that same kind of crap. Not sure I want to keep this phone if I have to replace all my chargers too. Especially considering how expensive Samsung chargers are.
Figured I would try, do you have fast wireless turned on?
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Figured I would try, do you have fast wireless turned on?
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If so try toggling it on/off 3 times.
uscpsycho said:
I just got a Note 20 Ultra and the wireless fast charger I've been using (including on S20+) will not work. I get a notification that says: Fast wireless charging unavailable. This fast wireless charger isn't compatible with your phone, so you're charging at standard speed.
This is just all kinds of annoying because I have lots of third party wireless chargers and it seems like Samsung is pulling an Apple move by making people use their own accessories. Is there some way around this so that I can fast charge with the chargers I have? This is the kind of thing that pushed me away from Apple and Samsung is doing more and more of that same kind of crap. Not sure I want to keep this phone if I have to replace all my chargers too. Especially considering how expensive Samsung chargers are.
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It's an update Samsung sent out, no more fast charging with 3rd party chargers, only genuine Samsung chargers can fast wireless charge now (So I've read)
Not true. You can still fast charge on third party chargers you just have to find one that works. I had to try different one till i found one that worked. Also look at reviews and see if anyone confirms it working on a note 20 ultra
ErickF said:
Not true. You can still fast charge on third party chargers you just have to find one that works. I had to try different one till i found one that worked. Also look at reviews and see if anyone confirms it working on a note 20 ultra
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Samsung may have tighten the protocols because of 3rd party chargers causing undesirable issues rather than malicious exclusion.
If the charger/cable meet the protocols they should work.
With the newer fast charging I just stick to OEM. With the wattage and heat on these phones it is better to mitigate any risk.
fast charging (~10W) is super old now and it's sad Samsung is so behind competition. Anyways, i have collected many Qi chargers in time and I can promise you: Note20 or recent Samsungs will rarely work with 3rd party chargers. No 15W, no 10W, just good ol' 5W (4+ hours). Frequently even 0 watts (including Samsung chargers!). It's like Oneplus charging - least compatible of all, and there's just one 3rd party cable and one usb tester that works. The charging wars continue. Samsung customer is always the loser. Samsung customer has to fight and pay a lot to get laughable "fast" wireless charging like it was 2017. Same with wired charging..
Bringing this thread back from the dead ..... not long got a Note 20 (refurbished) and starting to get annoyed at the way my car charger won't actually charge the phone - just maintain it's charge level. The same charger will charge a Note 9 and an S7 much faster. I've read that Sammie managed to put out an update to stop 3rd party chargers working so well and see pointers to chargers that will work but has anyone managed to figure out a software fix for the issue? As in any devs. managed to figure out how to get around the issue?
Ta.
dvhttn said:
Bringing this thread back from the dead ..... not long got a Note 20 (refurbished) and starting to get annoyed at the way my car charger won't actually charge the phone - just maintain it's charge level. The same charger will charge a Note 9 and an S7 much faster. I've read that Sammie managed to put out an update to stop 3rd party chargers working so well and see pointers to chargers that will work but has anyone managed to figure out a software fix for the issue? As in any devs. managed to figure out how to get around the issue?
Ta.
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If the display is on it will charge slowly or not at all, fast charging will not engage. If too hot charging may slow or disengage.
If too cold fast charging will not engage.
All in order to protect the Li from plating or worse.
blackhawk said:
If the display is on it will charge slowly or not at all, fast charging will not engage.
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No difference on or off.
blackhawk said:
If too hot charging may slow or disengage.
If too cold fast charging will not engage.
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Not too hot or cold, nothing to do with the problem I'm seeing.