Can't wireless fast charge anymore!? - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

I just got a Note 20 Ultra and the wireless fast charger I've been using (including on S20+) will not work. I get a notification that says: Fast wireless charging unavailable. This fast wireless charger isn't compatible with your phone, so you're charging at standard speed.
This is just all kinds of annoying because I have lots of third party wireless chargers and it seems like Samsung is pulling an Apple move by making people use their own accessories. Is there some way around this so that I can fast charge with the chargers I have? This is the kind of thing that pushed me away from Apple and Samsung is doing more and more of that same kind of crap. Not sure I want to keep this phone if I have to replace all my chargers too. Especially considering how expensive Samsung chargers are.

Figured I would try, do you have fast wireless turned on?

Arr6 said:
Figured I would try, do you have fast wireless turned on?
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If so try toggling it on/off 3 times.

uscpsycho said:
I just got a Note 20 Ultra and the wireless fast charger I've been using (including on S20+) will not work. I get a notification that says: Fast wireless charging unavailable. This fast wireless charger isn't compatible with your phone, so you're charging at standard speed.
This is just all kinds of annoying because I have lots of third party wireless chargers and it seems like Samsung is pulling an Apple move by making people use their own accessories. Is there some way around this so that I can fast charge with the chargers I have? This is the kind of thing that pushed me away from Apple and Samsung is doing more and more of that same kind of crap. Not sure I want to keep this phone if I have to replace all my chargers too. Especially considering how expensive Samsung chargers are.
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It's an update Samsung sent out, no more fast charging with 3rd party chargers, only genuine Samsung chargers can fast wireless charge now (So I've read)

Not true. You can still fast charge on third party chargers you just have to find one that works. I had to try different one till i found one that worked. Also look at reviews and see if anyone confirms it working on a note 20 ultra

ErickF said:
Not true. You can still fast charge on third party chargers you just have to find one that works. I had to try different one till i found one that worked. Also look at reviews and see if anyone confirms it working on a note 20 ultra
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Samsung may have tighten the protocols because of 3rd party chargers causing undesirable issues rather than malicious exclusion.
If the charger/cable meet the protocols they should work.

With the newer fast charging I just stick to OEM. With the wattage and heat on these phones it is better to mitigate any risk.

fast charging (~10W) is super old now and it's sad Samsung is so behind competition. Anyways, i have collected many Qi chargers in time and I can promise you: Note20 or recent Samsungs will rarely work with 3rd party chargers. No 15W, no 10W, just good ol' 5W (4+ hours). Frequently even 0 watts (including Samsung chargers!). It's like Oneplus charging - least compatible of all, and there's just one 3rd party cable and one usb tester that works. The charging wars continue. Samsung customer is always the loser. Samsung customer has to fight and pay a lot to get laughable "fast" wireless charging like it was 2017. Same with wired charging..

Bringing this thread back from the dead ..... not long got a Note 20 (refurbished) and starting to get annoyed at the way my car charger won't actually charge the phone - just maintain it's charge level. The same charger will charge a Note 9 and an S7 much faster. I've read that Sammie managed to put out an update to stop 3rd party chargers working so well and see pointers to chargers that will work but has anyone managed to figure out a software fix for the issue? As in any devs. managed to figure out how to get around the issue?
Ta.

dvhttn said:
Bringing this thread back from the dead ..... not long got a Note 20 (refurbished) and starting to get annoyed at the way my car charger won't actually charge the phone - just maintain it's charge level. The same charger will charge a Note 9 and an S7 much faster. I've read that Sammie managed to put out an update to stop 3rd party chargers working so well and see pointers to chargers that will work but has anyone managed to figure out a software fix for the issue? As in any devs. managed to figure out how to get around the issue?
Ta.
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If the display is on it will charge slowly or not at all, fast charging will not engage. If too hot charging may slow or disengage.
If too cold fast charging will not engage.
All in order to protect the Li from plating or worse.

blackhawk said:
If the display is on it will charge slowly or not at all, fast charging will not engage.
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No difference on or off.
blackhawk said:
If too hot charging may slow or disengage.
If too cold fast charging will not engage.
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Not too hot or cold, nothing to do with the problem I'm seeing.

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Fast Charging not working?

What's the deal? I'm using the stock charger and it doesn't say fast charging. In addition, no way to enable it under battery settings.
Did sprint disable it temporarily by default? Read there were some heat issues causing fast charging and s6 Edge issues. Maybe they disabled it until new firmware? I got one of the newer inventory models that is the platinum gold-colored 32gb that was not available until 4/27. I'm on build OCF, says it's fully updated. Perplexed because I've read the battery options shows a toggle for fast charge (which mine doesn't).
Someone educate me!
Update:
Very odd. Once I used an older USB cable from my s4 with the new fast charge AC adapter, fast charging worked! However with the USB cord that came with the S6 Edge it would only do a regular charge. No idea why, but if they have cable issues with what was shipped out, it's going to cause a lot of headaches for tech support and warranty claims etc.
I see others having tho issue also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3093015
Alpine- said:
Update:
Very odd. Once I used an older USB cable from my s4 with the new fast charge AC adapter, fast charging worked! However with the USB cord that came with the S6 Edge it would only do a regular charge. No idea why, but if they have cable issues with what was shipped out, it's going to cause a lot of headaches for tech support and warranty claims etc.
I see others having tho issue also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3093015
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Yeah I changed cords and now fast charger is working. Kind of a big screw up by Samsung to ship with the wrong cord.
fernando sor said:
Yeah I changed cords and now fast charger is working. Kind of a big screw up by Samsung to ship with the wrong cord.
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They'll pay for it in tech support calls and replacements, etc. You can bet some entire phones get replaced because some idiots didnt check the cord itself.

Best wireless charger for galaxy s6

Hi XDA members
in your opinion what is the best wireless charger for galaxy s6
hope everyone give us the price and the link for the product
Well it really depends on your budget. In my case, I am on a tight budget so I'll probably settle on TechMatte Wireless Charger that is priced not more than $25. However, I would really like the official Samsung wireless charger that is priced at $45 on Amazon. It is good-looking, sleeker and has functional LED light indicator.
Here is a good article about S6 wireless charger:
http://www.androidauthority.com/best-wireless-chargers-samsung-galaxy-s6-600922/
Honestly anything that has 3 coils will do well for you. I recently purchased this charger from Amazon, and it's amazing. You don't have to play with alignment as there is more than one coil.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charging-Blackberry-included-coil-black/dp/B00JA7HNZO
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Honestly anything that has 3 coils will do well for you. I recently purchased this charger from Amazon, and it's amazing. You don't have to play with alignment as there is more than one coil.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charging-Blackberry-included-coil-black/dp/B00JA7HNZO
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Yep.. ^^^^ what eep02b said.. I have the same exact one and it charges ridiculously good. No issues whatsoever. I've used a variety cases and it charges them with no issues. The thickest case I have is the Caseology and the Supcase.
I don't have the S6, but I do have the official Samsung charger.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Pad-Packaging/dp/B00UCZGS6S
I'm using it for my S3, that has a wireless receiver inside since my charging port is rather finicky these days. It works fine for that and it's nice that it's low profile, which is what I wanted.
The downside is that since it's flat, not very useful if you wanna watch movies and such, but that doesn't bother me since I only use it before I go to bed. I generally don't run into alignment issues with it, but always a possibility with the single coil setup.
The official Samsung one works with any Qi enabled device, though if you are using it for any other device, besides the S6, like I'm currently doing with my S3, the LED indicator will not tell you when it's fully charged. It'll just tell you when it's on the pad.
I don't mind since I just use my phone's LED indicator light to let me know when it's fully charged. But, keep that in mind, if you want to use it for phones other than the S6.
The 3 coil setup is better in that you won't run into any alignment issues like you can run into with single coil set ups. If you get something like this TYLT charger, you can definitely watch movies and such since it's propped up.
http://www.amazon.com/TYLT-Wireless-Charger-all-Phones/dp/B00DG8NUC8
One other thing you wanna keep in mind with wireless charging in general. It will NOT charge your phone as fast as using the AC adapter (especially since it has fast charging capabilities) the phone came with. If you wanna charge your phone fast, wireless charging isn't the way to go. It's more of a convenience thing. Figured you knew that, but a friendly reminder never hurts.
s-one said:
Yep.. ^^^^ what eep02b said.. I have the same exact one and it charges ridiculously good. No issues whatsoever. I've used a variety cases and it charges them with no issues. The thickest case I have is the Caseology and the Supcase.
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Yeah I got this one aswell for bedroom, and I have the round original Samsung one for desktop. Samsungs has too bright blue leds to use in bedroom so its more suitable for desk.
Both works great, no issues at all. Might get the QiStone+ later on so that I can have a portable battery with wireless charging capabilities.
Have any of you with that Choe charger used any sort of app to measure what sort of charging current you're getting?
flu13 said:
Have any of you with that Choe charger used any sort of app to measure what sort of charging current you're getting?
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Im using the Choetech upgraded wireless charger, got it off Amazon for about £15. My last cheaper one used to sometimes overheat the phone. This one works without any issues and takes the same to to charge as a standard wall charger. What app can I use to check the charging voltages etc?
I use the TYLT Vu
Reckless187 said:
What app can I use to check the charging voltages etc?
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I use an app called Ampere. Had to use the option for the older testing method to get it to work with the S6.
The Samsung Wireless Charging Pad for Galaxy S6 works just fine for me.
flu13 said:
I use an app called Ampere. Had to use the option for the older testing method to get it to work with the S6.
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Here you go.
saar17 said:
I use the TYLT Vu
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My TYLT Vu only works reliably when my S6 is placed on it in landscape orientation. It either doesn't work, or works intermittently in portrait orientation.
Do you have this issue with yours?
No, the only problem that I have with it is when my phone is fully charger and then the screen of my s6 lights up and the sound of the wireless charging plays, and its keep on doing it ever minute or so... I don't know if its the charger fault or the device itself
I have 3 of these around the house, work just fine for me, and they come in different colors and shapes;
http://amzn.to/1EpzkJI
I just got the new belkin charger and works great so far. Been using a cheap one from eBay and works good too.
Waiting on more from eBay soon and I'm sure they will work too.
Same
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No, the only problem that I have with it is when my phone is fully charger and then the screen of my s6 lights up and the sound of the wireless charging plays, and its keep on doing it ever minute or so... I don't know if its the charger fault or the device itself
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Mine does the same thing on the Choe 3 coil. I stopped using it. Wish there was a way to fix this without root.
saar17 said:
No, the only problem that I have with it is when my phone is fully charger and then the screen of my s6 lights up and the sound of the wireless charging plays, and its keep on doing it ever minute or so... I don't know if its the charger fault or the device itself
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I have the same issue, the wireless charger charges my phone just fine. I have 3 separate ones and they all do it, once it gets to 100% it keeps making the charging noise on and off as it looses a bit of power and starts charging again, kind of annoying when it's by your bedside lol. Anyone know how to fix that?
I have the official Samsung charging pad, works like every other wireless charger. Not sure if it was worth the $40 I got it for but the charging LED is handy and it isn't too bright to sleep with (my opinion). It doesn't have any starting/stopping charging issues at 100%.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Just bought this a few days ago, absolutely love it. I've set it down maybe 50 times, never missed a charge or needed to re-position it. For $25, you can't go wrong. Only minor down side is the surface is pretty smooth, so people without a case, I could see this sliding off. I use a clear Spidgen case, and have no issues at all charging with the case on.

wireless charging question

I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
Wireless charging is not as fast. Note9 also uses adaptive fast charging 2.0. Fast but not as fast as other standards. I would concern myself about fast charging only when needed. I use wireless charging exclusively at night to slow charge my battery. I think Samsung chose adaptive 2.0 to help with longevity of phone because fast charging does not help with longevity of battery. I am still pressuring companies to unseal the batteries. The environment is more important than being able to take a shower with your phone or not having to worry about dropping it in the toilet because you can't wait five minutes.
The appeal of wireless charging is so you didn't have to reach for a power cord to plug in your phone every time you wanted to charge it. I just upgraded to the Note 9 from my Note 4. When I had a new battery in it, wireless charging only took about 20 minutes longer than the cord. As the battery got older, it did seem to take longer with the wireless charging. For me, if I'm just at home, I use wireless charging. If I'm about to go out in the next 30 minutes for a while and the battery power is kinda low, I plug it in to get a fast full charge. Plugging in the phone all the time is a drag. You are missing out on a cool feature while wasting years waiting for something better. I keep a separate power cord next to my wireless charger. That way I can decide if I just want the phone to get charged using wireless, or if I need a fast quick charge with the cord. You aren't just stuck with wireless charging just because you bought one. A flat wireless charger is just $15 on Amazon. It works just as well as the $60 Duo charger from Samsung, although it does offer fast charging. Not worth that kind of money though. Plus it is big and takes up too much space.
wbarnes4393 said:
I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
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The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
Tidbits said:
The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
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I have one. Works well. Got it from Indiegogo, backed a project called the MAGQI X: The Smartest Wireless Car Charger Mount...
It charges faily well but I did find on my Note 8 it was only just holding power as I used GPS...Mind you, that could be caused by the case I had it in, my Note 9 seems to pick up the power pretty quick...
So, can the Note 9 handle the 12W wireless charge or is it limited to 10W? I see the comment above regarding the Duo Dock, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it supports it and I have not been able to find the exact spec on the matter elsewhere to confirm one way or another.

is Samsung willingly blocking Wireless Fast Charge with third party wireless chargers?

Hi everyone,
i've recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S21 and are having issues with my car's 10W QI wireless charger. Every time i place my phone on the charger i get the following error message:
"wireless fast charger is not compatible with your phone so you are charging at the standard speed" and pauses charge shortly after due to high temperature. My old phone, Huawei Mate 20 Pro, fast charged perfectly. And it can't be a matter of compatibility because both devices, charger and phone, are registered on
https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/
since they are both certified with QI standard.
I've done some googleing and it seems that this problem appeared after updating to One UI 3.1 since it worked perfectly with One UI 3.0. Samsung doesn't recognize this issue and many people think that its willingly blocking wireless fast charge with third party chargers. So what do you guys think? could it be? I bet that if there actually were a block, many people on this forum are skilled enough to remove it

General Wireless charging

Wireless charging is awful on this device. No matter what case (or even no case), my phone must often does not charge wirelessly. I've tried multiple chargers. I get the "connected; not charging" message. Sometimes it works, but seems to need to be in the exact spot. Even then, it often stops charging after a while or drains faster than it charges.
Any insight or solution to this?
This is a stock pixel 7 pro, bootloader still locked. Bought from Google store and activated on T-mobile.
What wireless charging pad are you using?
I was having all the same thoughts as you. Had a couple Samsung "fast" wireless chargers. However, bought a new one Costco that's not Samsung and it works as expected. Never have to realign or wake up to a dead phone anymore.
my rooted p7p with tq1a.230205.002
is charging well with wireless pads and wireless powerbanks.
always heating up p7p tho
I don't know why people like using Samsung but I prefer other brands
the backrooms​
My Pixel 7 Pro works fine using this 30w Wireless Charger from Amazon - Nanami 30W Max Wireless Charger
This is the only thing missing from the OnePlus 11 - but I don't care...
V0latyle said:
What wireless charging pad are you using?
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A variety that all worked great with my Samsung s20. Ankers, Samsung, and a few generics that worked better. None work well with the pixel 7 pro
I'm using the Belkin 15w charger and it seems to be working well.
I use the wireless charging dock I bought for my OnePlus9 Pro. Never had an issue with charging
LPMatt said:
Wireless charging is awful on this device. No matter what case (or even no case), my phone must often does not charge wirelessly. I've tried multiple chargers. I get the "connected; not charging" message. Sometimes it works, but seems to need to be in the exact spot. Even then, it often stops charging after a while or drains faster than it charges.
Any insight or solution to this?
This is a stock pixel 7 pro, bootloader still locked. Bought from Google store and activated on T-mobile.
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In my case, I figured out my wireless charging is unstable if my phone is in any condition where it might get at all warm. The Pixel 7s are just lousy at staying cool, and once the temperature rises to high 30/low 40C (which doesn't take much at all), wireless charging is severely throttled if not completely stopped. So if it's sunny out, I understand my phone won't charge in my car mount. The sun just makes it too hot, and it won't bother (no matter how cool I keep it in my car, direct sunlight on the phone is too much). If it's sitting on my wireless charger and I decide to try and use my phone while it charges, I understand odds are VERY high it will get too hot and stop charging. And if it stops charging because it has overheated, I know now to give up rather than keep readjusting it on the wireless charger, because even if it's not charging, if it's trying, it's still making the phone hotter, which is making it take even longer to cool down and resume charging. So I just take it off and don't bother putting it back on until it's gotten a chance to settle first.
It's finicky and irritating that their flagship has such lousy thermal control, but knowing that my wireless charging issues are linked to my phone's temperature has helped me understand how to keep my phone charged. Those who only charge wirelessly without ever trying to use the phone and only in particularly cool environments may never observe any wireless charging issues at all.
itiskonrad said:
In my case, I figured out my wireless charging is unstable if my phone is in any condition where it might get at all warm. The Pixel 7s are just lousy at staying cool, and once the temperature rises to high 30/low 40C (which doesn't take much at all), wireless charging is severely throttled if not completely stopped. So if it's sunny out, I understand my phone won't charge in my car mount. The sun just makes it too hot, and it won't bother (no matter how cool I keep it in my car, direct sunlight on the phone is too much). If it's sitting on my wireless charger and I decide to try and use my phone while it charges, I understand odds are VERY high it will get too hot and stop charging. And if it stops charging because it has overheated, I know now to give up rather than keep readjusting it on the wireless charger, because even if it's not charging, if it's trying, it's still making the phone hotter, which is making it take even longer to cool down and resume charging. So I just take it off and don't bother putting it back on until it's gotten a chance to settle first.
It's finicky and irritating that their flagship has such lousy thermal control, but knowing that my wireless charging issues are linked to my phone's temperature has helped me understand how to keep my phone charged. Those who only charge wirelessly without ever trying to use the phone and only in particularly cool environments may never observe any wireless charging issues at all.
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I noticed this too
I find Power saver with less brightness helps, but if it gets hot it's not charging at all
No problems with 2 different wireless chargers with a transparent case.
I measured the power usage with an external device and its mostly the charger uses 14 watts power between 0 and 80%. (don't forget the energy loss with this technology!)
No real overheating. But placing the device correctly affects the power draw a lot.
I agree. It's terrible, no matter what charging pad i use, it always glitchy.
Not to mention, the reverse charging won't work properly either. Plenty of time i need to recharge my buds while travelling to no avail.
I struggled with wireless chargers for P7P too, I tried at least 4 with varying degrees of success but ultimately I just ended up using some of the store credit I got for buying to the phone to get a Pixel Stand 2 and it works great.
I can happily say : MARCH RELEASE FIXED MY WIRELESS CHARGING ISSUE.

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