I have a basic cheap qi charger I used with my last phone, never had an issue. With my Mi 10 Ultra it only charges correctly like 1/10 times when I place it down on the charger. The weird thing is it shows it's charging, the pad and phone get warm which means electricity is flowing somehow, but the phone drops in battery instead of charging... I don't even know what to say or do. Kind of tempted to buy that 55w wireless charger though.
I had a similar issue but found that I had a few stock apps going in the background draining the battery quicker than it could charge (it was a cheap low wattage charger). Force closed the apps and killed a couple of processes and it steadily increased. Not ideal but I took that as a sign of using a cheap wireless charger.
Still on the stock chinese Rom until I get out of unlock jail so if you're on the EU Rom this might not help.
I bought the 55W wireless charger with my phone and it's brilliant.
I tested my previous Samsung 15w wireless charger & Huawei 15w charger with the Ultra and the charging speed was a trickle (according to Accubattery app) and near unusable on the phone so will probably go for the Xiaomi 55w charger from Aliexpress which some sellers seem to be offering the 65w charging brick with.
Will sell the 2 chargers I have whci should pay for the replacement
Does anyone have a source other than aliexpress/baba for the 55w wireless charger? I don't want to wait over a month for it.
Eh... I found other sites where it cost more and took longer to ship. I decided the fastest way to get it was to buy it from the fastest shipping seller on aliexpress and not delay any more
mine seems to have stopped saying fast charging when using my wireless charger, possibly since moving to the EU rom.
Just as proof this phone has something fundamentally wrong with its Qi charging compatibility, the charger only draws 2-3w from the wall when it's not working right. It uses 8+ when it's charging right. That's not the charger. The phone is doing something wrong.
2-3w appears to be what it draws when it's doing the detection algorithm to make sure it's compatible and will accept a charge. It does the same thing on my old s20+ but then goes up in wattage when it's actually charging to 9+.
I am using the 20W wireless car charger together with the 55W wireless charger (with 65watt GAN charger), and both of them works fine and fast. Just to beware that the car wireless charger is quite heavy and may stress your AC vents.
Something has definitely changed since moving to the EU rom. On the CN rom, it would activate the fan in my Huawei charger and say fast charging, now no fan and no fast charging.
Have you added it as a bug on the EU forum. It's ok noting it here but it needs to go on the bugs list to be noticed
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1. Do Qi Chargers also have the function where it stops charging the device after reaching 100% and lets it drop down a few, then recharge? Or does it over charge.
2. Does leaving the Qi Charger on without a phone on it or anything dangerous in any way? And does it use much electricity?
Your battery asks for charge when it's low and pulls it at the rate a charger can supply. If it's charged it shouldn't be asking for anything so should theoretically be fine
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The qi standard requires that the device and charger talk to each other to regulate charging. A proper qi charger will always drop down to trickle mode when the device is fully charged. Also, the charger will only function when a qi device is present, so it's perfectly safe to leave the charger plugged in 24/7. Electricity usage should be minimal, although the charger will constantly scan for devices, so it won't be zero.
Having said that, just like with A/C adapters, cheap, generic chargers may not fully implement the qi standards, which can result in damage to your device, so bargain chargers aren't always your best bet. Also, there is a known issue with the Tylt Vu (which may or may not have been fixed by now), where it sometimes gets stuck in full charge mode, resulting in excessive battery heat and/or damaged devices, so I'd steer clear of that particular charger until they find and fix that issue.
1. Yes, Qi chargers (brand names, not something from Hong Kong Ebay) trickle charge. Meaning that they charge fully, let it drop a few, and charge back up.
2. Leaving the Qi charger on the phone does not harm it at all. In fact, if it did, I wouldn't have bought a Qi charger.
Sorry to bump such an old thread, but doesn't your phone's charging curcuit control the trickle charging?
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So I got this Samsung wireless charger that is supposedly 'original' from Aliexpress.
There's actually a fan inside and it does say that it's fast wirelessly charging on the phone. However it is not that fast - 15% in 40 minutes. What speeds do you get with your wireless chargers? I'm using the original wall adapter from Samsung (9V 1.67A one).
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So I got this Samsung wireless charger that is supposedly 'original' from Aliexpress.
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If it cost less than from the samsung store then its not original, it does take 4 hours to charge the phone with the cheap wireless charger.
Of the ones I've used even with my S5, I found the cable and power supply are critical. Lastly the placement on the charger. All of mine have come from an Aliexpress seller. I can't tell you exact times but I know they charge as fast as the phone will allow before overheating. Not to say some sources aren't bad. Just my luck has been good. I even converted some of my S5 vehicle charge pads, simply by adjusting the charge center, and have continued to use them. Anyway, try different cables and usb supplies. if the phone doesn't get warm or better it isn't charging fast.
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
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Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
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I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
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oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.
I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
Wireless charging is not as fast. Note9 also uses adaptive fast charging 2.0. Fast but not as fast as other standards. I would concern myself about fast charging only when needed. I use wireless charging exclusively at night to slow charge my battery. I think Samsung chose adaptive 2.0 to help with longevity of phone because fast charging does not help with longevity of battery. I am still pressuring companies to unseal the batteries. The environment is more important than being able to take a shower with your phone or not having to worry about dropping it in the toilet because you can't wait five minutes.
The appeal of wireless charging is so you didn't have to reach for a power cord to plug in your phone every time you wanted to charge it. I just upgraded to the Note 9 from my Note 4. When I had a new battery in it, wireless charging only took about 20 minutes longer than the cord. As the battery got older, it did seem to take longer with the wireless charging. For me, if I'm just at home, I use wireless charging. If I'm about to go out in the next 30 minutes for a while and the battery power is kinda low, I plug it in to get a fast full charge. Plugging in the phone all the time is a drag. You are missing out on a cool feature while wasting years waiting for something better. I keep a separate power cord next to my wireless charger. That way I can decide if I just want the phone to get charged using wireless, or if I need a fast quick charge with the cord. You aren't just stuck with wireless charging just because you bought one. A flat wireless charger is just $15 on Amazon. It works just as well as the $60 Duo charger from Samsung, although it does offer fast charging. Not worth that kind of money though. Plus it is big and takes up too much space.
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I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
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The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
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The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
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I have one. Works well. Got it from Indiegogo, backed a project called the MAGQI X: The Smartest Wireless Car Charger Mount...
It charges faily well but I did find on my Note 8 it was only just holding power as I used GPS...Mind you, that could be caused by the case I had it in, my Note 9 seems to pick up the power pretty quick...
So, can the Note 9 handle the 12W wireless charge or is it limited to 10W? I see the comment above regarding the Duo Dock, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it supports it and I have not been able to find the exact spec on the matter elsewhere to confirm one way or another.
I just received and started using the RAM mount tough charge with X grip wireless charger that I use for a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra. https://www.rammount.com/part/RAM-HOL-UN12WB
I use it to attach and use my phone on my wheelchair. The charger is connected to a regular USB port which draws power from the power wheelchair batteries. As I use my phone, the wireless charging constantly and randomly stops working and the phone keeps on popping up that the wireless charging is paused with the light of the charger going red but then several seconds later it will start working again and the light turns green. I don't know if it's related but I have noticed the phone does get hot while charging on this particular charger as I use the phone. I just recently received a notification saying it was paused because the phone got too hot. I also turned off the fast wireless charging setting on my phone. I haven't had the same issue or have the first day it got too hot with other wireless chargers using the same USB connection of the wheelchair and plugged into a regular wall outlet. Do you have any suggestion to fix this issue? Is there a possibility I have a defective unit? If you can't think of a fix, is there a way anybody has figured out how to disable the wireless charging paused and the wireless charging pop-up notifications? It is quite annoying because when it starts charging the notification takes up much of the screen in the center. Thanks in advance.
That is only 10W charger so it can't do quick charge.
But maybe there is defekt in the wireless charger. Also rare names usually is typical China product that isn't well known and usually are poorly made so problems like these may occur
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That is only 10W charger so it can't do quick charge.
But maybe there is defekt in the wireless charger. Also rare names usually is typical China product that isn't well known and usually are poorly made so problems like these may occur
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It is actually a quite reputable company that makes lots of phone and tablet mounts. I will contact the company because it sounds like it could be a defective product. I was just seeing if anybody have ideas. It could be an overheating issue. As it charges, the temperature moves anywhere between 96 degrees Fahrenheit + 106 degrees Fahrenheit. Is that a normal temperature range?
Is there a way to get rid of the wireless notification when it is charging and paused? Especially when it starts charging the pop-up is annoying
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It is actually a quite reputable company that makes lots of phone and tablet mounts. I will contact the company because it sounds like it could be a defective product. I was just seeing if anybody have ideas. It could be an overheating issue. As it charges, the temperature moves anywhere between 96 degrees Fahrenheit + 106 degrees Fahrenheit. Is that a normal temperature range?
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I just looked up the information for the USB charging port adapter for the wheelchair. It says it can power up to 1.5A at 5V. Would there be an issue if the wireless charger is 10W?
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I just looked up the information for the USB charging port adapter for the wheelchair. It says it can power up to 1.5A at 5V. Would there be an issue if the wireless charger is 10W?
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There might be an issue. If the USB port can only supply 7.5W then it will be impossible for the wireless charger to send 10W to the phone. Subtract losses for wireless charging inefficiency and you'd be lucky to see even 5W arrive at the phone. Depending on how good the link is from charger to phone in terms of gap and alignment you might get even less.
It's not just you. Mine has been doing that the last couple weeks too. On an older samsung wireless charger.
Seems like it started after one of the software updates, but can't be positive.
I just installed the android 11 update and am going to see if that fixes it. My wireless charger is at work so can't try it out until tomorrow.
I will say the phone is very noticeably faster after the android 11 update.