I'm wondering if the RDS data output of the FM receiver can be redirected to a virtual COM port to be used as a TMC receiver with GPS programs like destinator 7.
Strange mate!
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
Rudegar said:
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
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I don't think that this could be a problem: I'm thinking on connecting the device in my car with a "Y" connector, one of the outputs to the sound system (car radio) and other to a power system. It is easy to connect the car antenna with a capacitor to the sound line.
Then the Device will be connected to a external headeset, with good antenna capacity, and at the same time to the car power.
cptn_dk said:
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
User22 said:
Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
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I also remember that, but I'm talking of the opossite side of teh RDS: Trafic information is sent like these RDS hackers sent their "information" but in a data format called TMC. Inserting this RDS transmited-TMC coded information into some GPS navigation software helps the software to create optimized routes.
I've seen the Polaris manual and the FM receiver is RDS compliant, then the RDS data transmited over the FM modulation is decoded iniside the Polaris and shown in the screen. But: If we could extract these RDS information from the decoder and make it available in a serial virtual port, then GPS navigation software running in the polaris could take advantage of it.
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
from what I've read most navigation software support combined gps/tmc on the same com port. this means someone should extract also the gps data and combine both...
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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it must be changed gpstmc.dll. but the FMS_API.DLL penetrate needed!!!
IGO 8 supports TMC too with different data port.
igo 8 autodetect polaris as tmc
cant find a station though... i think in spain tmc use am not fm
Can you please explain step by step how to do this ? Cause it doesn't looks likes igo8 detects any TMC on my Polaris. It just seems to try all ports and protocols available in it and claims it "TMC device not found" at the end.
Forgot to mention, the TMC protocols available for selection in the igo8 version i did this attempt on are:
GNS
Royaltek
Eten
Amaryllo
Open TMC v1
Open TMC v2
Ngai Lik
Samsung
Fx
AVANTEQ
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
The hardware is not there!
Demodulating the RDS data is all that hardware is supposed to do, the rest can be done by software. Polaris got an FM radio receiver that seems to show the station names. The only place it can get those names from is an RDS stream, so it is already doing the demodulation of that !
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I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
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If still interested, here there is a nice original HTC test package (from the Diamond) containing test FM dll and exe.
Works on Cruise too, and looks more flexible than standard FM radio application. Maybe this code is more useful than standard ROM one.
*BUMP*
Any progress? i'd love to have this on a blackstone.
Hi all,
I am trying to use the factory bluetooth integration in my car, and from everything I've read, it requires SAP (or rSAP?) to work properly. I've never had trouble pairing to the bluetooth module, but the car still insists there is no phone.
After messing with it yesterday and installing SAPSettings, I can hear the speaker of the phone in the car's audio, but no microphone, and it still says "insert phone" in the car's phone menu as apposed to downloading the phone book and letting me dial on the screen.
The phone lists the SAP profile among many others, but if I go into the settings of the car's bluetooth connection, it only lets me choose "Hands Free", with an on/off checkbox. It seems like thats what it sensed was available from the car, and offers nothing else, but I'd like to force SAP instead.
Car: MB E-Class
Phone: Sprint HTC Touch
OS: WM 6.5
Thanks!
I'm going to put the official windows mobile 6.1 on it to see if it makes a difference.
bluetooth is a long list of various profiles
problem is that devices only need to implement 1 or 2 to call themselves
bluetooth devices and no if the maker of the bluetooth stack in both ends
didn't implement a profile you can't force it
I have this problem trying to get my HD to connect to my landrover freelander 2 hse. I can get it to connect to the phone, but cant get the call to play thru cars speakers.
Dont bother with winmo 6.1 or official rom, just doesnt work at then (cant connect).
Only way i can get it to work is with winmo 6.5 (manila 2.5) (profiles must have newer or more stable settings). Only thing i have to do then is to make a call (normally voicemail) turn privacy on, then off again and voila it plays thru speakers.
Downside is i have to do this everytime i start the engine.........
Now that probably doesnt help you much but you will probably find from your car manufacturer that you device is not supported with you cars handsfree bluetooth kit.
the only one fully compatible with the freelander 2 is................. an phone
I read a lot of posts but no solution for that problem.
I use Google maps for navigation and the navigation commands are redirected to my car audio system via bluetooth.
Because the radio system needs some time to switch from radio to bluetooth stream the navigation commands are incomplete. I hear something like:
"... turn left"
and I missed the starting
"In 100 meter..."
I think I had the same with my previous Samsung Galxy S but this problem was solved with one of the early Android 2.3.5 betas.
I tried the Energy ROM because it's also 2.3.5 based but this didn't helps.
Using Sensation for radio to avoid stream switching isn't a option because car radio is much better (double tuner)
Any ideas how to solve this ?
Thanks in advance
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I read a lot of posts but no solution for that problem.
I use Google maps for navigation and the navigation commands are redirected to my car audio system via bluetooth.
Because the radio system needs some time to switch from radio to bluetooth stream the navigation commands are incomplete. I hear something like:
"... turn left"
and I missed the starting
"In 100 meter..."
I think I had the same with my previous Samsung Galxy S but this problem was solved with one of the early Android 2.3.5 betas.
I tried the Energy ROM because it's also 2.3.5 based but this didn't helps.
Using Sensation for radio to avoid stream switching isn't a option because car radio is much better (double tuner)
Any ideas how to solve this ?
Thanks in advance
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Not too familiar with the cars inbuilt bt systems but I know I have a speakerphone and the bt cutting off issue was solved on the software side of things for me.
Is there a setting on the bt to not disconnect on the car's side? I assume other bt devices via bt works fine on the car.
Hi!
I've just installed arzakem's Android to my HTC Touch Find (2.6.25 kernel + casacristo's RLS18 ROM)
It works pretty fine.
But anybody is able to use the FM receiver? I've discovered this app: Spirit FM Free (Search at Market). It has lots of options, chipsets, etc.
If I put a frequency of a local broadcaster, the signal meter gets higher!! And if I move the earphone cable (antenna), the signal meter "moves".
So I understand that this app is able to make work the FM receiver. BUT... does'nt sound anything.
Any idea?
Thanks!
Hello
I recently got a new BMW 116i. My Nexus 5 connects sweetly with the Bluetooth Interface, i can make Phone Calls and Listen to my songs.
What doesn't work is: I cannot change songs with my steering wheel. It should provide me a list of songs i can scroll through and select. Changing songs with the forward / back keys in the middle of the car works, but the "list" doesnt. (I checked the functionality with an iPhone of my friend.)
Can anyone help me?
Thanks in advance
People have always said car bluetooth often has many incompatibilities with difference devices due to proprietary software (which Android Auto supposively solves), it might just be that.