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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

XDA-II: practical questions to owners

Hi!
I don't own a PDA and I'm interested in the XDA-II/Qtek2020.
But I need some answer for how it performs in practice...
Of course, you can answer to individual questions only:
A* is it possible to navigate through softwares while you are in a phone call (i.e: look into the scheduler, check for a phone number or explore a map on a navigation software). Of course it should be easier with a headset.
B* Can I use a non-bluetooth headset (hearphones+microphone)? proprietary connector or easily available?
C* Can I listen to MP3 through the headset instead of the speaker ?
D* did someone already test it with a non-bluetooth GPS device? I'd like to use it with my Garmin eTrex (self-powered) or highly available Royaltek Sapphire. Would I have a luck with this kind of devices?
E* is the "craddle"-proprietary connector compatible with another more famous one? (ie: easy to find in Belgium)... (for car kits, battery chargers, ...)
F* with an english ROM, is the virtual keyboard available with other layouts than QWERTY? (in my case, french or belgian AZERTY).
G* can this PDA/GSM be used by a PC as a GSM modem? (via bluetooth, cable, or whatever)
H* is the CompactFlash optional adapter available somewhere? price range?
Many thanks!

A. some yes, some no
B. yes
C. yes
D. -
E. yes AFAIK
F. maybe, third party software
G. yes
H. dunno

F: yes: http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=132
H: it has some connectors when you remove the back part below the battery, i suppose it is ment to be used with an adaptor (i doubt it will be available though)
get it, it's great!

Thank you already...
Meanwhile I found some additional answers, but I'd like some more precision:
A- PDA use while online on the phone: does it depend on CPU usage? Say a friend asks me if i'm free on thursday evening: can I check if I'm free on the software agenda without hanging up? can i search a phone number while i'm already online?
B-C : reformulation of the questions: the provided headset is a stereo headset + microphone, usable for the phone part as well as the PDA part. So I don't need to carry one headset for phone *and* stereo hearphones for mp3. Am I correct?
D: GPS question unanswered. The Etrex or Royaltek Sapphire have RS232 output. (but USB converter can be used).
E: i may not have been clear: on any shop you find, car charger for Nokia phones, or HP PDA. So, is the proprietary connector of the XDA-2 compatible with a widely spread connector or must I order it on an online shop at an unfriendly price ?
F: it seems "yes". I've seen a 30$ software to get international keyboards: http://pocket-pc-software.penreader.com/InterKey.html
G: good news. Is the XDA-II "as PC modem" possible by USB? Bluetooth? IrDA? both?
H: i've finally seen CF adapter as "backpack for XDA-II" . It seems very expensive £130

A: no problem to use other SW during a call, except the ones using the speaker
B: the provided headset is for call & MP3
D: I use the Wired Tomtom GPS without problem (a realtek actually)
E: for cables look at PDAShop.be
H: there's an CF adapter available but don't no if you can get it in belgium.
For the azerty keyboard, the XDAII provided by Proximus has one. You can choose between Qwerty & azerty.
Regards
Ferdinand

Thank you Ferdinand!
Glad to read the "proximus" news ... I just hope they will provide ROM updates as often as others (if needed )
Other things about "A" (PDA usage while online on the phone):
- What happens if I receive a phone call while, for example, editing a pocketExcel sheet? Will this sheet be lost or will I just have to switch task to go back on it? (maybe obvious answer, but what happens in practice ?)
- Are there moments when the phone is not available? (while syncing with pc? while on high CPU usage?)
For my Garmin GPS, I just had a not-so-straight idea: I have a IrDA serial dongle somewhere (!)... if this dongle doesn't need powersupply, I may use it instead of buying a proprietary cable... plus I don't have to reconfigure IrDA on XDA-II
Again, thank you

In car Navigation Software

:?: Do I need a seperate device (i.e. gps reciever?) to run Navigation software such as Tom Tom Navigator or Route 66 on my XDAII? If I need a gps transmitter reciever, where can I get one from and can I buy one that I can permenantly install in my car?
:?

You will allways need a GPS receiver with (almost) any PocketPC based navigation solution.
From personal experience I would recommend a Bluetooth receiver. Make sure you have a 1.72 ROM version for good Bluetooth operation. There are many threads on that on the forum.
You will also need a power supply (to XDAII and to Bluetooth GPS for uninterrupted operation and quick GPS fixes)
And you would need a car cradle or 'real' carkit in oder to be able to have a good view on the screen
If you dont like to be bother by the limited storage amount a SD memory card is ver advisable, beware of the bad performing ones
Good software is TomTom Navigator 3
Like I said: This forum has lots of threads on this subject. Alternatively check out www.pocketgpsworld.co.uk

Thanx for the advice I'm still a newbe to this phone I haven't even had it a week yet. but already it looks like lots of fun 8)

Check this out:
http://www.totalpda.com/Holux-Powered-GPS-PDA-Mount-for-XDA-Series-I-Mate-Q-Tec-2020.aspx
It's a Car cradle / GPS / powered / loud speaker etc etc....all you need next is Tomtom or simular.
My mate has one and it's great. Removes the need for a seperate GPS receiver, which would need power itself. Don't know if you can get in Canada but probably.
HPJ

heck this out:
http://www.totalpda.com/Holux-Powered-GPS-PDA-Mount-for-XDA-Series-I-Mate-Q-Tec-2020.aspx
It's a Car cradle / GPS / powered / loud speaker etc etc....all you need next is Tomtom or simular.
My mate has one and it's great. Removes the need for a seperate GPS receiver, which would need power itself. Don't know if you can get in Canada but probably.
HPJ
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Thanks looks like a Phatt product. Unfortuntely I've already bought the cradle and gps seperate.

Beware: The product looks nice BUT: It's probably useless when your car has a heat-resistant windscreen.
These windscreens have a metal-like foil in it which does not let radio (GPS are radio signals) signals thru. These windscreen however always have 1 or 2 spots (most likely next to the mirror) where the foil is absent. Meant for toll cards, but also useable to stick a GPS mouse to it. For that you do need a GPS that can be placed (I glueed a plastic box with double-sided tape to the windscreen foil-free spot in which my BT (permanently powered) GPS is sitting).
Works like a charm.

Edsud - wow, seems logical. Guess many have bought the product and spent ages trying to get it to work, without any luck. Thanks for the warning.
How good are the Bluetooth receivers? ie does the Bluetooth stay 'well connected'? What about if you want to use a BT headset as well, can you run 2 BT devices at the same time?
Cheers
HPJ

I have found BT to be VERY stable (using the 1.72 rom & standard Bt stack), also when I use both GPS & Headset at the same time.
I have fitted the BT GPS with a constant 12V wire resulting in continuous power. Which results in a permanent fix (BT GPS's seem to keep working even when there is no device connected). When I start TomTom I never have to wait for a fix, it;s there when I start TomTom.
When you do not do this you will notice a delay to get a first fix. This delay is relatively short when the GPS has not realy moved since it was last switched on. The delay also depends on the type of GPS. I know of a Holux CF GPS (wichs gets switched off when you take it out of the PocketPC) on a Dell Axim that takes about 1 minute to get its first fix again. Imagine how long that takes when you have to wait for it . . .

im using the same as ed and it runs like a dream scary i know

I use Tom Tom 3 BT with XDA II. Works great.
No BT headset yet byt it's coming soon.
Rgds
Andrew

I have installed it on 2 different XDA2's and it works brialliantly.

Which ROM to use to achieve compatibility with mercedes bluetooth SAP

Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

Don't have a Merc....One day maybe. Had similar problems as you with a Parrot bluetooth car kit though.
Found that Dutty 29 Apr, and Laurentius' latest roms work completely with it though. Other roms may work too (don't want to tread on anybody's toes).
Some of the older cooked roms would either not route the audio properly, would only work for one call then stop routing, etc.
The latest rom I have tried is PDAViet'. Very fast in some aspects, Very slow at others. The Parrot car kit has real problems working with this rom.
Basically, try a Dutty (latest), or the latest Laurentius and I reckon everything will be fine.

Thank you very much Blartiartfast for you rapid and competent reply!
So I will try to change the Rom to the one's you mentioned and will report the result
Have a good time m8
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.

carkit
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz

Thanks both of you ghostie and BeeCee
I will try it
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

BeeeCeee said:
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
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Agreed! Laurentius_26's latest ROM works very with my ML63 AMG. Sometimes it randomly disconnects, but what Phone/Rom isnt going to?

ghostie said:
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
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This approach has worked for me several times as well. I use Dutty's April 29th ROM and have found stability to be fantastic. I haven't dropped a Bluetooth connection yet. Good luck.
T

Many thanks to all of you folks
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

Problems always persist with HTC Kaiser and MB bluetooth SAP
As stated in the replies to my question (Thanks to all of those who answered), I tried the last Dutty ROM and the last Laurentius ROM - but in no way I have been able to establish an adequate bluetooth SAP connection between my Kaiser and the mercedes benz bluetooth sap v2 cradle (I provide the original art. no A204 820 0535 in order to be more precise about the item I use).
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication? I suppose that the MB bluetooth sap device uses A2DP, but nobody could confirm until now...
The Kaiser recognizes the MB bluetooth sap device on a regular basis as "UHI-SN3483" and sometimes as "MB-Phone". The MB device recognizes the Kaiser as "Pocket_PC" with the Laurentius ROM and as "TYTN II" with the Dutty ROM. Note that the "Remote SIM Access" was enabled in both ROM's.
I tried also to modify the registry entry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD from decimal 5898764 (Smartphone) to decimal 5374476. But no connection at all.
I didn't use JETware because I do not want an HFP but a SAP connection.
Another point I could not deal with is that the Dutty ROM features in Settings an item named "Bluetooth SIM Access". What does it is for and how to set it? pointing on it does not result in another effect than display in the header where was located Settings the term "BT Remote SIM Acce"
Sorry I have been that long, but I really need to get into this bluetooth SAP connection with my Kaiser
Thank you all
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

hello guys... I've read in one of the threads for a diamond-rom-based rom that it includes "SIM Acess Version 3.0.xxx"... perhaps it will work with thsi new version... but until now I've not found any cooked, diamond-based rom, that includes SIM Access...

doc holiday said:
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication?
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With every ROM that I have used before this one - it has been a rather hit and miss endeavor to link my Parrott bluetooth in my car with my phone. I USUALLY have to tell the PArrott that I want to link with a phone and step through things.
With the DEATH V3.5 ROM installed I got in my car and was in a hurry and thought I would sync them later.
After I started the car the phone indicated that the PARROTT wanted to connect and establish a connection - I indicated that it should be allowed - I was then asked for a key code on my phone- I looked at the PARROTT display device and had a 4 digit code there - keyed that into my phone and it paired easily.
Go figure...
Bill

I work for Mercedes and I paired my Kaiser 10s of times. I am guessing you are in the UK because we don't use the sim access cradles. I don't see why our technology would be better than yours. The cradle we sell that works is 6-7-87-5878 But I doubt it will work there.

I was trying to use a Nokia 616 car kit with T mobile sim in the UK, but T mobile does not support Sim acccess profile with their sims. I am about to try an o2 sim which hopefully will.
If the NB uses sim access profile and the provider does not support that use of its sim, then the Nokia will not even allow fallback to bluetooth car profile.
I hope you proble is not being caused by the above but thought you should be aware in case!
Regards
Chapelhill

It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue

Htc touch diamond and Mercedes SAP kit
i have a mercedes sap v2 car kit, i have the same problem being not able to pair with windows mobile based phones, the car can see the phone but phone cannot recieve the password confirm and so connection fails.
i tried many roms, added the SAP settings, and yesterday had the chance to try the new HTC touch DIAMOND on car, but same results.
i think that solving this problem is just a software issue, first in windows profiles, or as addition from Phone manufacturers (as HTC) ,because the car kit is already fixed to car and cannot be modified to use other profile.
but i still have hope that the professionals in this forum can help to solve this problem, before any of Microsoft or HTC. Please share any information to help
Thank you

Mercedes Benz makes five BlueTooth adapters that have five proprietary firmware that each adapts to a different type of phone. For example, a Vorizon CDMA BT adapter will not work with Sprint CDMA phone and vice versa. So in essence, if you have a AT&T service, and use a Motorola Phone, MBZ provides a specific BT adapter, that would be close to impossible to pair with an HTC device.
I would suggest going to an authorized Mercedes Benz parts department at their dealership and request to try all 5 adapters b4 you commit to buying one.
Only In the new 2008 and 2009 C-Class MBZ cars the BT adapter is universal and built in. In earlier models and other models (2008's), the BT adapters would need to be purchased independently; a 2X4 device that installs in the center glove box that works as a link between the media port of the car ( Hands Free) and the phone.
My 2 cents....

try the neon radio rom
i tried it in one of my friends car
if it did not work (change your car to fit your phone )
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Penske MB said:
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
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which Penske Mercedes Benz do you work at?

doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Try Htc shipped WM6.1
If not work.
Read this.
The Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, which is also suitable for Motorola PEBL U6, Nokia 6131, Nokia 6111, Nokia N70, Sony Ericsson K610i, Sony Ericsson W550i and BenQ-Siemens EF81 mobile phones, acts as an extension of the pre-installation for mobile phone with universal interface, a feature which is already present in many of the latest Mercedes-Benz models (optional extra Code 386). The module is simply inserted into this pre-installation in the centre armrest. The Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, in independent-design closed-box format, will be available from Mercedes-Benz sales partners from March 2007, and is priced at EUR 250.00, including VAT (price applies to German market).
High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities

TMC in Igo8?

Has anyone been able to activate the TMC function in IGO8?
I read somewhere in this forum that our TP is able to recieve TMC signals becouse it has RDS radio, so how do I activate this?

I don't think so. Can you find where you read about that?

I've found some interesting behavior in iGO8 on the Touch Pro. Since the headset acts as an antenna for the FM Radio app (which supports RDS), this is with the headset connected:
iGO8 > Settings > TMC > Scan
The first time through, when iGO8 gets to the GNS protocol, a WM notification pops up asking if I want to allow a dll to run. iGO8 will then choose GNS and search for a receiver on COM3, 4, and 7, but then report no TMC hardware found.
If I have the FM Radio running in the background (tuned to a station that's broadcasting RDS text) and run the same scan in iGO8, it will skip COM7 (as if it's already in use), though still reports the same no TMC hardware found message.
I would optimistically say that the settings are GNS/COM7, and that iGO8 doesn't have the proper code to activate the RDS chip. But then I don't know if the TMC signal is different from the regular RDS signal that radio stations use, so it may simply be impossible one way or another.

COM7 is for bluetooth AFAIK, so I don't think you are on to something.

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COM7 is for bluetooth AFAIK, so I don't think you are on to something.
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I never said I was
But it's certainly a bit of odd behavior, since I did the scans with bluetooth off.

I can confirm that!
fhsieh said:
I've found some interesting behavior in iGO8 on the Touch Pro. Since the headset acts as an antenna for the FM Radio app (which supports RDS), this is with the headset connected:
iGO8 > Settings > TMC > Scan
The first time through, when iGO8 gets to the GNS protocol, a WM notification pops up asking if I want to allow a dll to run. iGO8 will then choose GNS and search for a receiver on COM3, 4, and 7, but then report no TMC hardware found.
If I have the FM Radio running in the background (tuned to a station that's broadcasting RDS text) and run the same scan in iGO8, it will skip COM7 (as if it's already in use), though still reports the same no TMC hardware found message.
I would optimistically say that the settings are GNS/COM7, and that iGO8 doesn't have the proper code to activate the RDS chip. But then I don't know if the TMC signal is different from the regular RDS signal that radio stations use, so it may simply be impossible one way or another.
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Actually you are on to something, I did the test myself right now and sure enough, with the radio off it scans GNS 7 but if you turn it on it just quits scanning after GNS 4! And to answer your question I dont have the bluetooth radio on!
So the question now is if the RDS signals from the radio stations are the same as the TMC signals, and if so how do we get IGO8 to recognize that it has a RDS radio?

i did an autoscan with headsets plugged in and fm radio software off. igo8 said it detected tmc hardware, but in my country there is no tmc service available so i can't test it.

zamo_x said:
i did an autoscan with headsets plugged in and fm radio software off. igo8 said it detected tmc hardware, but in my country there is no tmc service available so i can't test it.
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Are you sure it said it detected the hardware? becouse mine sure doesn say that!

My iGO 8 finds some hardware after scanning (It said something like "Found TMC hardware") and presents me with the TMC Station settings. Here, supposedly, I should tune for a TMC radio station/frequency or select "Use Auto-tuner". But I get stuck right there. I can't tune and switching on the auto-tuner doesn't seem to do anything (stays at 0.0MHz).
My guess, iGO found some hardware (or so it thinks), but can't put it to use (maybe a newer version of the hardware iGO thinks it found is in the TP?).
I can't rescan to tell you guys what protocol and port it was, ones iGO finds the hardware it will not let go of it
For the protocol I think it's something like Silicon (after he scanned for GNS), which came up right before he said he found the hardware.
We'll wait and see
I used iGO8 version 8.0.0.49545

There is a sys.txt in your SDMMC/iGo8. Here you can look up what iGo detected, looking at the TMC section.

iGO did not change the sys file located on the storage card, nor did it change the sys file in the "Program Files/iGO" folder on the TP. There is a 8kB gpstmc.pil file located at "Program Files/iGO", but it seems empty when viewing it. This file was modified today around the time I scanned for TMC hardware.
I replaced it with an older version of this file but iGO won't let me rescan..
I will have a look at it later.

jonkheer said:
My iGO 8 finds some hardware after scanning (It said something like "Found TMC hardware") and presents me with the TMC Station settings. Here, supposedly, I should tune for a TMC radio station/frequency or select "Use Auto-tuner". But I get stuck right there. I can't tune and switching on the auto-tuner doesn't seem to do anything (stays at 0.0MHz).
My guess, iGO found some hardware (or so it thinks), but can't put it to use (maybe a newer version of the hardware iGO thinks it found is in the TP?).
I can't rescan to tell you guys what protocol and port it was, ones iGO finds the hardware it will not let go of it
For the protocol I think it's something like Silicon (after he scanned for GNS), which came up right before he said he found the hardware.
We'll wait and see
I used iGO8 version 8.0.0.49545
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I have an older version of IGO8 V. 8.0.0.41506
So maybe if I upgrade to a newer version mine too will find some TMC hardware? I will keep you guys posted!

i use a bluetooth tmc receiver from:
navilock.de
works very good!

jonkheer said:
iGO did not change the sys file located on the storage card, nor did it change the sys file in the "Program Files/iGO" folder on the TP. There is a 8kB gpstmc.pil file located at "Program Files/iGO", but it seems empty when viewing it. This file was modified today around the time I scanned for TMC hardware.
I replaced it with an older version of this file but iGO won't let me rescan..
I will have a look at it later.
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I have the same problem.
The settings of tmc are located in Storage Card/igo8/save/system.ini
The settings that are found with autoscan are:
- RDS_GPSTMC_SILICONLAB
- COM 4
If you remove all lines in the file under [tmc], you can rescan or set your own settings.

I can confirm:
- TMC hardware found as SiliconLab Port 4
- Frequency hangs on 0.0MHz
- Under frequency there is just 'Testing' label
I am also interrested about to working TMC,unfortunately my experiences are not enough for that.

TomasNM said:
I can confirm:
- TMC hardware found as SiliconLab Port 4
- Frequency hangs on 0.0MHz
- Under frequency there is just 'Testing' label
I am also interrested about to working TMC,unfortunately my experiences are not enough for that.
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Using IGo 8, my ATT Fuze also detected TMC hardware but that was it.

TomasNM said:
I can confirm:
- TMC hardware found as SiliconLab Port 4
- Frequency hangs on 0.0MHz
- Under frequency there is just 'Testing' label
I am also interrested about to working TMC,unfortunately my experiences are not enough for that.
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Hi everybody,
I am new to this forum, but I have read all this thread concerning the use of iGo8 on Touch HD. And I would to thank you for the useful information that can be found on this thread.
I got iGo8 to work very well on my Touch HD, except for the TMC with the internal radio. I know the internal radio is capable to receive TMC messages. However, the autotuning does not work and neither the manual tuning of the radio frequency.
I got iGo8 to recognize the internal radio by adding in the sys.txt file the following:
[tmc]
saved_config_available="1"
saved_config_classname="RDS_GPSTMC_SILICONLAB"
saved_config_portname="COM"
saved_config_port="3"
saved_last_tuning_mode="1"
So now, the internal radio is recognized but no luke with the frequency tuning.
Did anybody figure out a way to get it to work ?

flohtc said:
Hi everybody,
I got iGo8 to recognize the internal radio by adding in the sys.txt file the following:
[tmc]
saved_config_available="1"
saved_config_classname="RDS_GPSTMC_SILICONLAB"
saved_config_portname="COM"
saved_config_port="3"
saved_last_tuning_mode="1"
So now, the internal radio is recognized but no luke with the frequency tuning.
Did anybody figure out a way to get it to work ?
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saved_confiq_(last_)frequency="**.*" ???? or something alike??
just a wild guess

I have tried that too... but without any luck. Even if you set the last saved frequency to something else than 0.0 MHz, it still stays at 0.0 MHz.
It seems that iGo8 is not able to set the frequency of the internal radio.
Good try...

there are some people on modaco that are working on TMC for an omnia, they might have some info for you guys.
http://www.modaco.com/content-page/273982/tmc/page/100/