Hi!
I don't own a PDA and I'm interested in the XDA-II/Qtek2020.
But I need some answer for how it performs in practice...
Of course, you can answer to individual questions only:
A* is it possible to navigate through softwares while you are in a phone call (i.e: look into the scheduler, check for a phone number or explore a map on a navigation software). Of course it should be easier with a headset.
B* Can I use a non-bluetooth headset (hearphones+microphone)? proprietary connector or easily available?
C* Can I listen to MP3 through the headset instead of the speaker ?
D* did someone already test it with a non-bluetooth GPS device? I'd like to use it with my Garmin eTrex (self-powered) or highly available Royaltek Sapphire. Would I have a luck with this kind of devices?
E* is the "craddle"-proprietary connector compatible with another more famous one? (ie: easy to find in Belgium)... (for car kits, battery chargers, ...)
F* with an english ROM, is the virtual keyboard available with other layouts than QWERTY? (in my case, french or belgian AZERTY).
G* can this PDA/GSM be used by a PC as a GSM modem? (via bluetooth, cable, or whatever)
H* is the CompactFlash optional adapter available somewhere? price range?
Many thanks!
A. some yes, some no
B. yes
C. yes
D. -
E. yes AFAIK
F. maybe, third party software
G. yes
H. dunno
F: yes: http://www.sunnysoft.cz/en_clanek.php?clanekid=132
H: it has some connectors when you remove the back part below the battery, i suppose it is ment to be used with an adaptor (i doubt it will be available though)
get it, it's great!
Thank you already...
Meanwhile I found some additional answers, but I'd like some more precision:
A- PDA use while online on the phone: does it depend on CPU usage? Say a friend asks me if i'm free on thursday evening: can I check if I'm free on the software agenda without hanging up? can i search a phone number while i'm already online?
B-C : reformulation of the questions: the provided headset is a stereo headset + microphone, usable for the phone part as well as the PDA part. So I don't need to carry one headset for phone *and* stereo hearphones for mp3. Am I correct?
D: GPS question unanswered. The Etrex or Royaltek Sapphire have RS232 output. (but USB converter can be used).
E: i may not have been clear: on any shop you find, car charger for Nokia phones, or HP PDA. So, is the proprietary connector of the XDA-2 compatible with a widely spread connector or must I order it on an online shop at an unfriendly price ?
F: it seems "yes". I've seen a 30$ software to get international keyboards: http://pocket-pc-software.penreader.com/InterKey.html
G: good news. Is the XDA-II "as PC modem" possible by USB? Bluetooth? IrDA? both?
H: i've finally seen CF adapter as "backpack for XDA-II" . It seems very expensive £130
A: no problem to use other SW during a call, except the ones using the speaker
B: the provided headset is for call & MP3
D: I use the Wired Tomtom GPS without problem (a realtek actually)
E: for cables look at PDAShop.be
H: there's an CF adapter available but don't no if you can get it in belgium.
For the azerty keyboard, the XDAII provided by Proximus has one. You can choose between Qwerty & azerty.
Regards
Ferdinand
Thank you Ferdinand!
Glad to read the "proximus" news ... I just hope they will provide ROM updates as often as others (if needed )
Other things about "A" (PDA usage while online on the phone):
- What happens if I receive a phone call while, for example, editing a pocketExcel sheet? Will this sheet be lost or will I just have to switch task to go back on it? (maybe obvious answer, but what happens in practice ?)
- Are there moments when the phone is not available? (while syncing with pc? while on high CPU usage?)
For my Garmin GPS, I just had a not-so-straight idea: I have a IrDA serial dongle somewhere (!)... if this dongle doesn't need powersupply, I may use it instead of buying a proprietary cable... plus I don't have to reconfigure IrDA on XDA-II
Again, thank you
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Where to buy stereo handset for MDAII?
My handsfree is broken.
Bluetooth Stereo Headset
I assume you mean stereo headset.
I started looking for one of these around 4 months ago - there were a handful of solutions that came with a bluetooth dongle to plug into the player (going for the ipod market and pretty expensive $200+) but nothing that could would work directly with a bluetooth-enabled device.
Around that time HP launched the first - actually an OEM'd Logitech product (which is not sold direct) - but exclusively for iPAQ. (I think Toshiba now badge the same one). Mixed reviews.
Several others have since emerged (some with mics so can work as a headset too): the Bluewalker MP02 and the AnyCom BSH-100. The Sonorix OBH-100 has a dongle but can be used without (it also has it's own 128MB flash player - so you pay over the odds for functions you don't need).
NB Now here's the thing - to get stereo audio into these things your device needs to support a new bluetooth profile known as A2DP. I'm pretty certain that the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (as used by my HTC Magician) doesn't support this - and I have seen no promises that it will ever. The Broadcom stack apparently does.
Would be very keen for anyone who can suggest how to get this working on my PPC
you can use this
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT01
and use any headset with 3.5mm connector
i use this one
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
it works perfectly but does require the dongle
because the ms bluetooth stack dont support A2DP which the headset use
but it works just fine with the headset profile
GideonS
I searched jack stereo HF, better with microfon.
From BT HF I like Nokia HS-12W
On some forums people writed that connected stereo BT. But for it need to change register. I some time downloded cab file fore this. But not tested it.
Rudegar
Thanks a lot. Adapter is good. Can I to buy it in regular shop, not e-shop, in Danmark?
http://www.pdagold.com/forums/view_topic.asp?t=5012&fi=0
Attashed file for device for BT1.2. But...
expansys is not a danish online store the link i gave was just to the danish part of it
they have sites in many places
you could try going to a normal radio hifi kinda store and bring your xda
and try out their 2.5mm to 3.5mm converters and se if they work
i cant see any russian expansys department but they are also present in polan and letvia and Ceské Republiky
http://www.expansys.dk/group.asp
Dr.Giggly ur help needed
hi , will the pda2k broadcom patch work with buzz wm2005 edition
cause i reallllllyyyyyyyyyyy want to listen to music through bluetooth
pl suggest .
thankx
i havent heard about anybody getting old 2003(/SE) bluetooth stacks working on 2005
isk2005
IMO w2005 don't help with this. Because on Himalaya BT 1.1.
But on russian forums guys try to solve it. They think that problem on regkey.
PS I'm just a user. May I'm wrong.
Rudegar
I'll come on Denmark soon. That is about my question (ragular shop).
What you can say me about this?
i guess an orange shop might have it being that they sell xda2 as m1000 at orange
i guess an orange shop might have it being that they sell xda2 as m1000 at orange
OK, this may not be the correct place to post the request but i do.
I am planning to buy a BMW. THis car offers a bluetooth kit to connect your phone to the car, you know this stuff to use your phone while in the car without actually touching it and talking via the car audio system bla bla bla..
Anyway, i wonder if these kind of car bt kits are able to play music from my trinity, too? if not, what other ways are there to listen to music in the car via my trinity?
anybody made any experiences yet?
Thanks for your comments.
Regards
enlite
I know here are some devices that connect to the audio out jack and emit a low intensity fm signal that can be captured on the car's radio.
I had that for my wizard and magician. But the quality is poor. Besides you would have to buy a mini usb to audio jack converter plus you can not use the mic anymore plus it looks like a nerd had had some time to frickle some cables together...
you can try with the parrot mk6000 here
http://www.parrot.biz/uk/products/parrotmk6000
it's an installation hands free, that includes stereo stream profile (A2DP)
in BMW you can hide too the mic under the case of the original mic location
ah, by the way, it's mooooore cheaper than the original BMW one!
The BMW bluetooth kit is not that great, most stock car options like that aren't, even the dealer will tell you that and probably tell you it's only really meant (TESTED) with Motorola phones. If you do get a BMW with a Bluetooth Kit, you're going to need this as far as phone functionality is concerned when it comes to Bluetooth on the BMW, you're going to need Jetware's Bluetooth Extension found here.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
The bigger question is why would you bother, it's not like you have that much storage on your Trinity to play audio for music. A better option instead of investing in 3rd party bluetooth options is to get the IPOD option with the kit, this way you have stereo controls and the IPOD sits in your glove compartment so no wires or anything. Not to mention you could always just burn a CD full of MP3, even my stock BMW radio can play MP3's burned onto a CD.
Trinity and BMW
I have a Trinity with the Dopod Test GPS ROM. It pairs perfectly with the BMW system on my E90 320D with Pro Sat Nav, and all the contacts are visible on the Sat Nav screen...most of the time. Last night I could only find those on the SIM Card, but after driving off this morning they are all there again (580 of them). I haven't tried Jetware but it doesn't seem to need it to work.
The Beemer has a 3.5mm audio jack in the console. Get a USB headphone splitter/adapter for your phone and plug your Trinity into this. It will then play through the BMW system.
Excellent information mate. Thanks a lot. So that means I only need to get a usb to 3.5 mm adapter and everything else works fine.
Thanks again.
I wouldn't put out too much hope.
BMW bluetooth is tempremental to say the least.
enlite_de said:
OK, this may not be the correct place to post the request but i do.
I am planning to buy a BMW. THis car offers a bluetooth kit to connect your phone to the car, you know this stuff to use your phone while in the car without actually touching it and talking via the car audio system bla bla bla..
Anyway, i wonder if these kind of car bt kits are able to play music from my trinity, too? if not, what other ways are there to listen to music in the car via my trinity?
anybody made any experiences yet?
Thanks for your comments.
Regards
enlite
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My friend you are good... BMW comes with the Ipod connector and you want ot lisiten to muzic from a PDA... i bought Lexus GS300 and it do not have an iPod connector i have to pay few hunderd $ to get it fixed...
life is a ***** you will never get what you want and you will never be satisfied with what you have...
just for your info Lexus GS has the bluetooth phone hands free built in with there mark levinson audio system but its not stereo so i am not sure if the muzic u play from your PDA will be good quality, i tried the FM transsmitter for the iPod but in the end i have to move to cable connection as the sound quality was bad from time to time and i was not doing justice to the 14 speaker Mark levinson system...
BMW bluetooth in E91 320d works!
All,
Bluetooth connection works with my BMW 320 Touring (Model E91 from 11/2006) with BMW stock Bluetooth (Feature SA644) and my P3600 (in fact I have a Vodafone VPA Compact GPS running WM5).
The SIM Access profile is enabled using the HTC-provided application "SAP Einstellungen" (probably in English SAP Settings) on the P3600. The P3600 can be operated using the Steering wheel keys (Volume, Receive/Hang up call, show numbers in SIM on the iDrive screen, browse and call numbers and dial numbers using the speech-to-text function of the BMW iDrive). I have the "basic" iDrive system "BMW Business" without the full maps on the iDrive screen, but the Bluetooth feature is the same for both iDrive systems.
BMW has a phone compatibility list and in that list only the MDA Compact III (that is HTC Artemis/P3300) is listed, but all modern HTC phones using BT 2.0 and the SIM Access profile should do. T-Mobile confirmed to me that this also applies to the T-Mobile Vario II (equals HTC TyTN).
Speech quality is like with my old Nokia 6310i, the only catch is that BMW does not offer a charge cradle for extUSB connectors, but a Car-to-USB charger will do. Also, the BMW has a 3,5" Stereo socket in the Console / Phone cradle area to which I connect the P3600 using a 1-to-3 extUSB to 3,5" adapter, then music can be played back using the built-in BMW iDrive stereo system.
Hello!
I'm looking for a nice priced mobile carkit (no headset!) wich can handle more bleutooth connections at the the same time. Like my trinity and my office phone, an good old nokia 6310i. Can anyone help me, the only ones i've found on the net are build-in things....
greetz Niels
was useless post, reffered to a carstereo with BT build in, but you want a mobile thing...
nielstheking said:
Hello!
I'm looking for a nice priced mobile carkit (no headset!) wich can handle more bleutooth connections at the the same time. Like my trinity and my office phone, an good old nokia 6310i. Can anyone help me, the only ones i've found on the net are build-in things....
greetz Niels
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There are only two solutions. Both I think are not what you are looking for. Both are MutliPoint connections. ( you can only use one phone at a time)
1. Headset ( which you do not want ) eg jabra 5010.
2. Or the handsfree system car kit by FWD. (http://www.funkwerkdabendorf.de/con...ID=14775&dbc=648a1f6aac7531e97dba991cb0bed8d7)
AUDIO COM can be buddied with up to 4 phones and has also built-in sim car holder/ reader.This uses your car radio installation or you install a seperate speaker .
I have both my P3600 + my nokia 6310i so I can switch between my private phone & my business phone. And if I ever forget my phones there is the built in sim that I can use ( a second sim card from my business phone).
It was fairly simly to install. ( I got it done in 30 minutes) You can download the instruction booklet from the same link above.
I have looked high & low for asuch a soluton and I think I have found the best so far for 2 phones.
greeting
Rafiki
I'm wondering if the RDS data output of the FM receiver can be redirected to a virtual COM port to be used as a TMC receiver with GPS programs like destinator 7.
Strange mate!
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
Rudegar said:
even if it was possible then the reviewer said that it only worked when the headset was connected guess it act the role of antenna would be bothersome to have the wiredheadset hanging while using it as gps
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I don't think that this could be a problem: I'm thinking on connecting the device in my car with a "Y" connector, one of the outputs to the sound system (car radio) and other to a power system. It is easy to connect the car antenna with a capacitor to the sound line.
Then the Device will be connected to a external headeset, with good antenna capacity, and at the same time to the car power.
cptn_dk said:
Hi Rudegar, great to see the red/white flag ;-)
Headset vs. FM antenna can be handled software wise.. eg. on Eten G500
As soon as headset is plugged a popup asks to redirect sound to ext. speaker for navigation purpose.
As for the TMC / FM radio in HTC products.. (Polaris, Artemis etc.).. Haven't seen a solution yet, RDS is supported in both products, so if TMC mesages runs on the default RDS stream it should be technical possible.
Merry X-mas and Happy Newyear (go' bag(h)jul)
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Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
beemerTPPC said:
Yes, TMC is only a filtered data stream of the RDS network. Obviously it will be needed to know the correct RDS chain that works in each country for TMC, but it is only information.
The question is: Is there any known way to extract online information of the RDS data from the FM receiver programatically?
I can do a program that attach to any API or hardware interface and present the data in a virtual port.
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Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
User22 said:
Well, i can't help you too much but i remember that some time ago, perhaps a year ago, hackers been cheating on RDS and people been foolish when reading on their car radios notices like "alarm because of ..." . I don't remember also wich country, perhaps Australia or Usa.
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I also remember that, but I'm talking of the opossite side of teh RDS: Trafic information is sent like these RDS hackers sent their "information" but in a data format called TMC. Inserting this RDS transmited-TMC coded information into some GPS navigation software helps the software to create optimized routes.
I've seen the Polaris manual and the FM receiver is RDS compliant, then the RDS data transmited over the FM modulation is decoded iniside the Polaris and shown in the screen. But: If we could extract these RDS information from the decoder and make it available in a serial virtual port, then GPS navigation software running in the polaris could take advantage of it.
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
from what I've read most navigation software support combined gps/tmc on the same com port. this means someone should extract also the gps data and combine both...
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
beemerTPPC said:
At least Destinator 7 supports two separate comports for GPS and TMC.
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it must be changed gpstmc.dll. but the FMS_API.DLL penetrate needed!!!
IGO 8 supports TMC too with different data port.
igo 8 autodetect polaris as tmc
cant find a station though... i think in spain tmc use am not fm
Can you please explain step by step how to do this ? Cause it doesn't looks likes igo8 detects any TMC on my Polaris. It just seems to try all ports and protocols available in it and claims it "TMC device not found" at the end.
Forgot to mention, the TMC protocols available for selection in the igo8 version i did this attempt on are:
GNS
Royaltek
Eten
Amaryllo
Open TMC v1
Open TMC v2
Ngai Lik
Samsung
Fx
AVANTEQ
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
There is NO TMC support for our POLARIS
The hardware is not there!
Demodulating the RDS data is all that hardware is supposed to do, the rest can be done by software. Polaris got an FM radio receiver that seems to show the station names. The only place it can get those names from is an RDS stream, so it is already doing the demodulation of that !
Mc0815 said:
I need the FMS_API.DLL, then there is TMC/TMC Pro !!!
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If still interested, here there is a nice original HTC test package (from the Diamond) containing test FM dll and exe.
Works on Cruise too, and looks more flexible than standard FM radio application. Maybe this code is more useful than standard ROM one.
*BUMP*
Any progress? i'd love to have this on a blackstone.
Hi!
I own a Benq E72. Unfortunately my headphones broke, and they are not sold in my country. I tried making an adapter but it did not work.
So my only choice is to use a BT headset.
The problem is that BT+Movie player is too much for this phone.
I tried reencoding movies in all sorts of presets, using different codecs but I can not get a smooth play with BT.
I tried (and tweaked) TCPMP, CorePlayer, Divxplayer and Mplayer with no success.
I also tried overclocking the phone, but did not found any app that will work with OMAP v1030 (tried omapclock, XCpu Scalar and the like)
So, all that said, I am looking for any solution to this problem. So if you:
-Know a lightweight video player
-Have successfully solder an audio adapter
-Know an overclocking tool for OMAP v1030
-Know where to buy a headphone in Argentina
Please Reply
Thanks in advance!
Look at my old blog about E72 in my signature. The cabling for an adapter is there - when I had the device the adapter worked ok.
tobbbie said:
Look at my old blog about E72 in my signature. The cabling for an adapter is there - when I had the device the adapter worked ok.
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Tobbie!
Yes I read your blog, it was very helpful!.
I followed the instructions but the adapter did not work.
I used a Moto V3 adapter and modified it. It had a 100k resistance if I recall correctly.
I did not have a chance to get a 10k (All the stores are across town and closed when I go back home).
I even fooled around with the pinout but all I got was a CLICK! in one of the headphones. The phone did not recognize them.
Thank you very much for replying!
Did you notice that the headset needs also to be connected to the adapter - otherwise the device will not switch to headset mode. Pin 3 needs to be connected to grounds with less than 250 Ohms - usual headsets are in the range from 16 - 60 Ohms, so it should work. It did for me, so why not for you as well? And of course the headset must not contain a capacitor (which is very unusual btw.) but a straight connection.
tobbbie said:
Did you notice that the headset needs also to be connected to the adapter - otherwise the device will not switch to headset mode. Pin 3 needs to be connected to grounds with less than 250 Ohms - usual headsets are in the range from 16 - 60 Ohms, so it should work. It did for me, so why not for you as well? And of course the headset must not contain a capacitor (which is very unusual btw.) but a straight connection.
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The headset was connected. I will review the adapter, maybe the resistance was not right (I bought the V3 adapter on the street).
Unfortunately I do not know the headphone's Ohm-age, but I tried a few.
I really appreciate your interest and help
You have to remove all the crap that is connected to the USB for the Motorola handling.
Then you can start to use the naked parts that are left:
- USB
- MIC (not needed)
- 3.5mm headphones connector.
You must not keep the electronics for the Motorola handling!