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Hey guys-
I'm running My Mobiler to output the display, and control my phone (Tilt/Kaiser/TytnII/8925) via my PC (XP sp2).
When I receive a call, My Mobiler allows me to accept/reject/sms etc through my pc (really through my phone dialer but I'm using my keyboard and mouse), but when I want to accept the call, and talk to my caller, I'm having to pickup the phone, and resort to what I'll call 'untethered' phone use (i.e., phone to ear/BT headset).
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
Additional info:
BT is an option, but it's Toshiba stack, which from my researching doesn't' seem to support the Headset profile on PC.
Thanks
well if your pc has bluetooth it should be able to work....i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it never tired to use a mic or use my pc as a speaker phone but 1 thing for sure the audio from calls go on my pc....if i had a mic i would test it out...also as another option(if your phone has it.) u could just use speaker phone...
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i have a usb to bluetooth adapter for my pc and i can get the audio going to it
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What's the make/model of the USB BT you're using?
Mine is:
Toshiba Bluetooth Stack for Windows
Version v5.10.15
When I pair up the profiles displayed on the tilt are:
A2DP: Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
SPP: Serial Port Profile
The profiles in the Toshiba BT manager are:
DUN: Dial-Up Networking Profile
LAP: LAN Access Profile
If I use my BT headphones (Sonorix C3) with MortPlayer, A2DP works, If I try to use the Toshiba USB BT it doesn't work.
I think the one I need is (either)
HSP: Headset Profile
or
HFP: Handsfree Profile
I'm suspecting the toshiba bt stack is to blame, anyone else able to use a toshiba stack and get HSP/HFP working on their PC?
Im currently using My Mobiler to use my VOX due to having removed the broken screen from its shell
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone and it works fine
using the computers speakers and mic would be great fun, but for me its impossible due to the bluetooth dongle i use not having any compatible (free) software that uses audio streaming, but if it did, audio streaming should work with both speakers AND a mic! so it should in theory work.
i think
cris_rowlands said:
whenever i take a call, all i do is put it on speakerphone
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Grondinm said:
u could just use speaker phone...
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Speakerphone isn't an option, I'm in an office and the sharing of my conversation with my coworkers via loud speaker wouldn't be appreciated.
I intend to use a headset+mic combo hooked up to my pc, this way I can listen to music off my pc, and handle calls.
flow would be:
[Phone]<--display&control(via My Mobiler)-->[KVM - PC]
[Phone]<--voice*(Need solution here)*-->[MIC & Headset - PC]
Salling Clicker Is on the road to what I'd like to do, although it doesn't have voice support under windows. It's on the road to PPC <> PC convergence.
Any one have any experience with tweaking Salling Clicker to work with voice?
thetiltedKaiser said:
What I'd like to do (and hopefully where you guys can help me out) is to use some method or software to relay the call through my PC (and use my pc's built in speakers & mic). Bonus if the method leverages something I'm already running (ActiveSync/My Mobiler).
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When I paired my MDA Vario III with my notebook (HP TC4200 Tablet PC running a Broadcomm BT stack) I had a "Voice gateway" service available from my phone. This is in addition to DUN and Network Access Point services. Basically when I PC and phone connect my PC acts as a BT speakerphone.
I've not used the setup that often but it seems to work pretty well. When 1st connected a pop up briefly appears to inform me that the "Call Monitor" is active and that's it til a call comes in. At that point a notification gets displayed saying the number or callerID with buttons for "Accept & "Reject". If I take the call, or transfer and active call to the BT headset then my PC picks up the call.
By default my notebook uses its built in loudspeaker and microphone. However I can also pair my PC with a BT headset then route all sounds through it. It's a bit of a faff though as I have to change the active sound device to whatever headset is connected. I also need to connect the PC and eadset 1st if the headset is also paired with the phone, otherwise the real BT headset may take the call instead of the "virtual" one (notebook). I haven't tried this with my BT stereo headset though, only my conventional mono...
Whilst playing during a particularly boring teleconference I also discovered that I can record the calls and pass the sound through a text to speech converter supplied with the PC... the results of the latter are more for entertainment than serious use, althoug I suppose with some training it might be better...
I also use Salling Clicker. The phone events work pretty well, but to date I've yet to take a call using the PC whilst it is running.
Not sure if this helps in your case, but it seems like what you want to do is definitely possible.
Fatman it's like you've taken a page right out of my book. What software are you using for speech to text? This could make for a useful and entertaining audit trail... Sounds like I need to pickup a new BT adapter based on the Broadcomm stack. If anybody has had any luck using the Toshiba stack, please share.
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What software are you using for speech to text?
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I'm not sure if the program is available as separate software. It's called "Microsoft English Recognizer" and was pre-installed on my notebook. I have no idea how it compares to any other programs. I've only playted around with it very briefly as a way of killing time during a boring teleconference!
However, I can't see why any program couldn't be used as the sound from the phone is available to any software as the BT stream from the phone becomes the default input sound feed.
One thing I will definitely be trying next time is recording the call whilst taking notes using Tablet Enhancements for Outlook. THis basically augments the normal MS Outlook Journal functions so I can take handwritten notes which can be edited, commented, and then later searched. If you record the microphone feed (i.e. the phone call in my case) the notes are then linked into "timeline" of the call so you can see what notes were taken when, and conversely what happened in the call when you took a particular note... should be useful if it works...
Let me know if you need any additional info about BT stack versions and drivers etc but it does sound like you'd need the Broadcomm stack - ISTR reading that the Brioadcomm stacks on some PocketPCs have laways performed better than the MS equivalents, and it appears that the same if true for PCs too... The BT on my notebook is far more reliable, and flexible than that on my work PC which uses an MS BT dongle. However, that may be due to the fact that the BT on my notebook is built in and not USB...
Good luck!
found this:
Bluesoleil
http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/index.asp?topic=bluesoleil6x
It has a Dialer plugin.
Have not tried it yet but if someone has please let us know.
Hi,
I am using my HTC Touch Pro with an Opel Vectra built-in bluetooth carkit.
All functions, like browsing the address book and call registers, are working fine. However, at random times, my carkit reports no phone. When I then check my Touch Pro's bluetooth status, I see that it is has been disabled.
After manually re-enabling it, I can pair with my carkit for as long as it takes for bluetooth to turn itselves off again.
I've already tested with JETware, but that does not change anything. Also tried the universal broadcom bluetooth stack, but doesn't seem to work on the Touch Pro. HTC only comes with a standard answer that they don't support all carkits and headsets... Since the BT stack on the phone seems to crash, I don't think it's a carkit issue.
Anyone here with the same issue? And maybe a solution?
Thanks and regards!!
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Bluetooth -> Timeout (tab). Turn off Visible mode set to "Never".
I think this must be your problem.
Hi Freco,
Thanks for your reply! This option is set. However it's not really the visibility that turns to invisible, but the whole bluetooth stack is being turned off completely. Need to fully re-enable it via Comm Manager.
Any other options? Does anyone know if there is a working broadcomm stack for the Touch Pro?
Regards!
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem with a Vauxhall kit, I have tried all sorts of things, but nothing seems to work
try:
start -> settings -> connections -> bluetooth
timeout tab
select 'never' from drop down box
Hi Brendo,
Unfortunately this doesn't solve the issue. Once paired, the connection even works without being visible. It's also not a fixed period of time before the disconnect takes place (can be within a minute, sometimes after half an hour). However, the whole bluetooth icons disappears from the top icon bar and comm manager shows it's turned off completely.
Hope somebody has any other ideas, because the only thing HTC can do is point to the carkit vendor :-(. Since all functionality is there when connected and the phone is turning off BT in some way, I really don't think this is caused by the carkit vendor. I should at least expect BT to stay enabled on the phone.
Thanks!
Yes, same here, BTW I have tried this in my Friends Saab, and the same problem.
same problem here with a Opel DVD90 buildin bluetooth carkit.
With other htc phones it always worked like a charm, but my mda vario IV continuously disconnects after a random time period and shuts down the complete stack.
Try this!
I have the same problem with my opel with original bluetooth-kit (2007). On the touch pro I changed the band and network from auto to GSM, as G3 reseption in this area is quit poor, especialy while driving. It helped for me, at least the last few days. I agree this has been an annoying problem.
I have tried to switch to "GSM only mode" in the past, but as far as I remember it does not completely solve the issue. However, I will give it another shot! Actually I can't figure out at what point it occurs... It can happen within a minute or after half an hour without using any funtion.
Does one of you know if there is a way to do some debugging on the Bluetooth stack?
And has anyone experience with other Windows Mobile 6.1 based phones in this combination (just curious if it's a WM issue or HTC only)?
Furthermore I did some tests with JetWare. You should be able to limit the number of synchronised items then (might be related to this issue). However, it looks like this configured limit is being totally ignored: when I limit my recent call list to 5 with JetWare, it still syncs about 25 items. Anyone tested with Jetware?
I have tried the GSM only mode, this didn't help either
I have now given up and got myself a Nokia E66, which works perfectly.
All contacts are pushed to car, no disconnects and AD2P works so my mp3 ringtones play through the car speakers! Sweet
Word of note, I had issues with N-Series phones, would connect ok, but contacts would not push.
I have the samen problem with my HTC Touch Pro and Saab.
bluetooth pairs just fine with my pioneer bluetooth enabled deck, but the problem iwth mine is once i receive a call sometimes no sound comes from the car, instead the earpiece is still on. but if i initiate the call first sound works just fine and earpiece on the phone is disabled, BUT once the call is ended bluetooth disconnects randomly and the phone takes a good 1-2min to reconnect. i absolutely hate the bluetooth on this phone!
ExTREmE99 said:
bluetooth pairs just fine with my pioneer bluetooth enabled deck, but the problem iwth mine is once i receive a call sometimes no sound comes from the car, instead the earpiece is still on. but if i initiate the call first sound works just fine and earpiece on the phone is disabled, BUT once the call is ended bluetooth disconnects randomly and the phone takes a good 1-2min to reconnect. i absolutely hate the bluetooth on this phone!
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I am having the same problems you describe. Anyone got an suggestions???
I encountered the same problem; first with an opel udp carkit and next with the bluetooth interface software from homeseer.
It has something to do with phone signal loss.
With the opel carkit I noticed bluetooth automatically turns off when the phonesignal switched from 3g to gsm.
I also noticed that in my home, BT turns off whenever I have been in a room with no phone-signal reception.
try this thread, both registry change and attached cab file, reset. DOn't worry if the make visible to all option is unchecked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-314996.html
Hi! I have a brand new Jabra 620s bluetooth-headset. When I turn the headset on and search for bluetooth devices on my computer I can see it, but I cant see it when I search for it on my touch pro.
What could be the problem here?
I had a similar problem last night (and have it quite often when i need to pair). It doesn't detect it until the 3rd or 4th time in which last night it didn't even detect it either. I power cycled the headset and my phone found it the first time.
Yeah, I tried rebooting my headset and my phone several times, but I still can't get it to work...
Figured it out... Had to hold in a button on the headsett to make it avaliable for new devices...
But new problem:
I don't get sound in the headsett when I play music. But when I make a call the sound is in the headsett. What could be the problem here?
Maybe its the settings in your a2dp profile?
I read this "Set-up of the 620's was simple enough, the headset unit is paired with the device that is streaming the music and / or a mobile phone. A smart move from Jabra allows the 620s to be connected to both a mobile phone and an audio device simultaneously. However our set-up was rather more straight forward than most as we used Jabra's own Bluetooth dongle that supports the all important A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) profile. Real life for most users is a different kettle of fish with support for A2DP being quite sparse, most music gateways and servers and even music ready mobiles rarely support the required profile." source: http://www.lordpercy.com/jabra_bt620s_review.htm
Maybe some tweaking in hklm\\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\Settings
I believe this headset also supports AVRCP profile. In any case, make note of your original configuration prior to making any changes.
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Maybe its the settings in your a2dp profile?
I read this "Set-up of the 620's was simple enough, the headset unit is paired with the device that is streaming the music and / or a mobile phone. A smart move from Jabra allows the 620s to be connected to both a mobile phone and an audio device simultaneously. However our set-up was rather more straight forward than most as we used Jabra's own Bluetooth dongle that supports the all important A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile) profile. Real life for most users is a different kettle of fish with support for A2DP being quite sparse, most music gateways and servers and even music ready mobiles rarely support the required profile." source: http://www.lordpercy.com/jabra_bt620s_review.htm
Maybe some tweaking in hklm\\software\microsoft\bluetooth\a2dp\Settings
I believe this headset also supports AVRCP profile. In any case, make note of your original configuration prior to making any changes.
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I tried to install btAudio. Now I have sound in my headset, but det sound-quality is CRAPPY! Are there any other software avaliable that can fix this? Dont know if I want to edit the registry.... There must be a solution?
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I tried to install btAudio. Now I have sound in my headset, but det sound-quality is CRAPPY! Are there any other software avaliable that can fix this? Dont know if I want to edit the registry.... There must be a solution?
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You can use Advanced Config to enlarge the bluetooth bitpool under the bluetooth tweaks. Set it to "very high" for best sound quality (uses more system resources tough).
HTH
Maximum bit-pool setting is 1561. I dont think it solves the problem, cause the quality is still really bad.
Any other tips? Or do I have to return the headset cause a brand new ~1000$ phone cant play on a wireless bluetooth headset?!
Bump.. Are there really no solutions?
I've noticed these similar (and likely related) bugs in a lot of places and have been living with them for six months, but I have never seen a fix. Surely there are others with this issue that might be able to fix it.
Issue #1: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device, using the Wireless Stereo AND Hands Free profiles, the wireless stereo feature works fine, but when attempting to answer a call, hands free fails. The hands free icon shows on the Phone screen, no audio is heard, and after a few seconds the headset shuts off and the icon goes away.
Issue #2: When you connect a Bluetooth stereo headset to a Windows Mobile device using the Wireless Stereo profile and are watching video in Windows Media Player, if a call comes in, the program device.exe crashes and Windows Media Player will often need to be restarted. Device.exe will often crash at other times as well.
I have seen numerous reports of this problem, and near universal reports of it on the Dell BH200 Bluetooth Stereo Headphones. It seems to require A2DP, and be very common among HTC devices. I have had the same problem on the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) and AT&T Fuze (Touch Pro/Rafael) under Windows Mobile 6. I can confirm the headset works as it is supposed to on Palm OS (Palm Centro) in headset mode, and that it was also able to work as a headset on the T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) running Windows Mobile 5 (which does not support A2DP).
In all cases, I am talking about devices using stock ROMs.
If you have seen the problem, please list the device, OS, and bluetooth device used. If you have a bluetooth stereo headset that does not exhibit the issue on devices that are known to have this problem, list that as well, so owners of devices with this issue can consider alternative headsets.
If you have any technical knowledge of what causes the issue, please share it. If you have heard of any workarounds, please share it.
Thank you all.
I have the Samsung i-640 running WM6 and have the same issue with The Dell BH200 not doin Hands free mode and the whole shut down of device happens too ..very Frustrating .
I tried using the Nokia BH 100 which does only Mono [Hands Free] and i get $hit loads of static noise but the Device doesnt Shutdown.
Heya, I have the AT&T Fuze and I also own the BH200. I have the same exact issue you have (issue #1). I have no idea why it does this but I've been trying to get support from dell for the longest time with no luck.
I think the problem lies in the MS BT stack. It does an automatic pin guessing thing which might cause the bh200 to not work properly. I have tested the fuze on the BT2020 (by Jabra) and it works perfectly. I just recently bought the moto s9 (still waiting for it to arrive) but I would prefer to use the dell bh200 if possible.
Check my sig for the information you're looking for.
Dell sends you to PC support when you try to get support on the device, since it's usually sold as an accessory with computers, but they refuse to offer actual support on the actual device, as though they knew nothing about it or how it works. I asked them if it was a rebranded version of another company's headset, and they wouldn't say.
I tried to get help from dell already, and they're as much help with it as telemarketers...
Similar problem
Maybe this is a stereo headset bug...
Maybe this is designed behavior, but it is typical of why people HAVE to hack the crap out of WM to be happy with it:
I have a ATT Tilt.
Behavior same under WM6 and WM6.1
I have a Jabra BT610s (stereo headphone with A2DP, AVRCP, handsfree, & wireless stereo profiles).
If the Tilt is paired with both wireless stereo & hands-free, then even if Win Media is running or playing, the hands-free profile is selected when powering on the headphones. Then, the stupid ATT Bluetooth settings are so buried that it requires about 30 secs of sylus picking, poking, and prodding to get it set to wireless stereo.
Is there a way to set the Tilt to default to wireless stereo, is there a helper app for quick-switching this?
Also, there are not infrequent dropouts in audio over bluetooth, even with the phone setting on the desk 24" away from the headphones as I type this.
All the remote control features DO work with this setup, but unfortunately there's no remote control function for profile switching.
Thanks,
I am using a stock ROM and I don't have the above problems. I am using a motorolla hb820 headset. I also use an LG Style i headset, and no problems either. I use Core Player and it plays fine even after a call. I only use WMP to play music and my X7510 haven't froze yet while playing music when a call comes in.
Hi
I am using Lg KE590 but I am not using the device so I have not gone through the problem. Is it for all the handset ?
John
Don Joao Resort
I have several configurations with problems to report below:
1) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => issue #1 (never try issue #2)
2) HTC P3600i (WM6 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
3) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dell BH200 => stereo music & phone call works but music switch back to the phone after end of a call
4) Dopod S300 (WM5 stock ROM) + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
5) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dell BH200 => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
6) Nokia 5610 Xpress Music + Dopod HS01 clip-on BT stereo headset => All functions work fine, no problem switching between profiles
Summary: I tend to believe that the problem is specific to Dell BH200 and some of HTC's or WM OS combination as Dell BH200 works fine with Nokia phones and Dopod BT headphones always work with any phones we have.
Reporting in, Im using Motorola S305 Stereo BT. No above issues whatsoever with 2 devices HTC Kaiser and Touch Pro. Both with stock or cooked ROM. I have a strong feeling its related to hardware prob on Dell BH200.
I have a touch pro that refuse to play nice with my AVIC-D3 head unit...I must pick either headset profile or wireless stereo profile, but not both. I remember coming across a solution called a2dptoggle. It let you switch between the 2 easily (in wm agenda page), but try it out to see if that's a solution or not.
Issue #1 using HTC Touch Pro and Dell BH200
Because of that issue i can't use the hands free function at all.
Only way i can use my headset is:
If i uncheck Hands free from partnership settings, then an incoming call mutes headset, i take out the phone have my conversation manually, after hangup the music plays on.
I m having issue of my Focus's BT not working. Whenever i turn on the BT is goes into searching mode and doesn't come out of that.
anybody facing the same issue?
mine is OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Not exactly, but in my opinion WP's Bluetooth software is just horrible.
It has two options - on and off. You can't change your phones BT name, you can't be invisible with bluetooh on, you can't transfer files. My sister can't sync her WP with her car, whereas I (on Android) just turn BT on and it syncs instantly.
I hoped Mango would fix that, but it didn't. It's just crap.
bluetooth isn't the best part of wp7 for sure...but it sync easy with an headset or a car stereo...
reading some threads about it i found that samsung devices have the worst wp7 BT hadware...
still, i'm alright to say that files transfers should be enabled
hmmm....my focus synced with my car stereo once....but recently it has started go into "Searching" mode and doesnt sync with car stereo
I only use Bluetooth in my cars and all my previous phones worked perfectly (iPhone, iPhone3G, iPhone4, Lg Quantum, Samsung Focus).
The HTC Titan on the other hand sucks. My two vehicles handle things different.
The Challenger (factory BT) will hold onto the call even if the car is off and the door open. The call will switch back to my old phones when out of range (basically in the house) or i manually shut off bluetooth.
The Jeep (aftermarket radio) once you open the door with the car off the call goes back to the phone.
The Titan has a problem were 1/2 of the time when the call is transferred back to the phone either manually, because the car turned off, or im out of range. The mic will not engage. I can hear the person but they cannot hear me.
Haven't had a problem with my Trophy... previous car was a Lexus IS220d and it synced and worked fine.
Currently driving a Jeep Wrangler and only once I've had the "searching for device" issue.
Bluetooth on Wp7 is quite poor. You can not select, which service an adapter shall support (handsfree and A2DP). It always use both services.
Windows Phone's Bluetooth support is abysmal, but you know what's worse: Samsung's support for Bluetooth on Windows Phone. Their last firmware update for the AT&T-branded Samsung Focus reduced out-of-call Bluetooth volume so that it's way too soft and text-to-speech is impossible to use because you can't hear it. If you turn up your Bluetooth headset or car volume to compensate, then in-call volume is way too loud. There is no fix or solution, except to restore the old firmware through Zune's backup. I've been running 2103.11.3.3 instead of 2103.11.8.1 for about 5 months now. I couldn't be more furious about Samsung and AT&T's lack of urgency to fix, or even acknowledge this. I'd even deal with the disappearing keyboard (as I have anyway) if it means keeping Bluetooth working. Regardless, after this experience I will never buy a Samsung phone again.
WP7 lacks rSAP, and for many of us with European cars are SOL. Wish Microsoft would listen as many of us have complained about needing rSAP.