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Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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This is the only Nougat your going to get
And sure a factory reset is always good after a major OS update
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If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
salihss said:
If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
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I can confirm my battery life took a dive. I am now *charging* my phone when I drive home from work. I didn't need to do this before with MM. Sadly Huawei screwed up the battery life and no solution in sight.
Here are some likes and dislikes on it. I do suggest you read before you update. Once updated, rollback would require you to reset.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/help/honor-8-nougat-emui-likes-unlikes-t3556351
Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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I personally can´t recommend it. Battery for me isn´t bad but I´m having a ridiculous amount of graphical glitches, bugs with notifications and sometimes apps like camera, can´t be opened on the lockscreen cause some lockscreen elements overlay and won´t allow interaction with the camera app until I restarted my phone.
Seems like people having all kinds of different issues, that others don´t have.
Really weird.
I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
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Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
johnhux7 said:
I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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Updated, and well the battery is draining faster than usual but it drains about the same speed that it drained when I first got the phone.... But I believe that the battery will be back to normal in a couple of days.
AllieKitty said:
Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
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I have updated and I must say, I really love the new features and that they fixed some of the bugs
Only glitch I've found is with the gyroscope. Only had the phone a day so not sure what it was like before the update, but this video suggests it only happened after updating;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBFz-i_ruXc
Whether anyone else has had this problem?
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in emui4.1
Rommco05 said:
Which issues you mean?
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I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
bala1701 said:
I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
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All are good
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
Zero issues in B389, battery a tad better the MM versions. Never charge device more than 1x/day, sometimes 1x/1.5 day.
Dominikrod said:
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
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Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
Rommco05 said:
Performance is higher how on Marshmallow and with battery I don't have any problems, this can be related which model you have and which firmware you are able to install. Gyroscope issue... I don't know
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Mine is Indian version
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
venugopalu007 said:
Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
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You mean nougat update for FRDL02 has no battery issues? But at top of this thread you also mentioned this :
"Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in EMUI4.1"
Im confused..
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Use i am also saying that emui 4.1 sucks less compared to 5.0 . Emui 4.1 is the best for battery but we want the new version of Android should have to leave the old one
Also in emui 5.0:
In lockscreen clean up disable apps to run in back ground . U can also get 6+
Rommco05 said:
Anyway if compare look betwen EMUI4 and EMUI5, emui5 is much better, looks a bit more stable and fast. Google security patches is newest how on emui4 and in future if want upgrade to Andoid O (hopefuly we got it) u will must anyway upgrade first to emui5 Nougat. Emui5 have lot of settings which can help improve battery life
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I can't get security patches on MM Emui 4 unless I upgrade and that's sad. But the performance with EMUI 4 on H8 is truly amazing. I have never had a single instance of lag or slowness in the two months I have had this. Truly flagship device. Buttery smooth and I'm thoroughly enjpyong this beauty. I'm afraid this will not be the case once I upgrade. So let me stay with this till we get the news on Android O.
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
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There are still some minor bugs, which you will never notice (maybe). But I would like to say its 96% stable. :fingers-crossed:
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? ...
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Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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bala1701 said:
Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
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Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
Saeem said:
Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
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Yes sure I will definitely give it a try in the future. But as of now I am at peace with EMUI4.1/MM
@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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I didn't know that. But thanks :good:
I have a samsung galaxy note 2, I would upgrade to the 4 but I'm a student with basically no spare cash.
When I got it I immediately rooted it to CM13/ Resurrection Remix. I've never had a flagship so I've never experience amazing performance. When rooted I noticed it occasionally heats up, get's slow etc.
So I started wondering should I just go back to the stock rom or a touchwiz based rom. I normally used NOVA launcher anyway, the only thing that would change is the OS .
In my opinion I would not upgrade old Android phones (Like a phone at Jellybean) and try and upgrade to something like Marshmallow.
But I could be wrong, maybe it could be something with the battery but I am not sure.
Take a look at your system usage and see from there. Is your phone slow? Does your phone ever crash (Apps failing to respond?).
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In my opinion I would not upgrade old Android phones (Like a phone at Jellybean) and try and upgrade to something like Marshmallow.
But I could be wrong, maybe it could be something with the battery but I am not sure.
Take a look at your system usage and see from there. Is your phone slow? Does your phone ever crash (Apps failing to respond?).
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I too was thinking that it could be the battery. I'm considering ordering a new one of Ebay.
And yes my phone occasionally crashes, sometimes it will work perfectly sometimes it will be slow as hell.
I just checked my RAM and I was using 1.5/1.7GB .
Hi everyone,
I was thrilled last night when my X3 Pro showed an upgrade to Android 12-based MIUI 13 was available. I downloaded the thing (all 3.1 GB of it...), install went without a hitch, ditto reboot, but I'm severely disappointed so far.
Everything feels slow and sluggish, even with the power slider set to Performance and the screen refresh rate pegged at 120 Hz.
Navigation in the Settings menu is OK, but all the other applications are slow to react. Scrolling up and down my Twitter timeline doesn't feel as snappy as it did before, when I was still on MIUI 12.x and Android 11.
Have any of you noticed the same thing? Did Xiaomi jump the gun with this update? I know Android must rebuild some system and application caches after each upgrade and all, but still, this doesn't quite feel right.
The only good thing is the battery life, which seems to have improved a bit, but that's all. DevCheck shows CPU peaks at 2.4 GHz under strain, but the Kryo core that's supposed to clock at 2.9 GHz never seems to wake up.
Did Xiaomi underclock the CPU the way Samsung does sometimes, to preserve battery life? Like I said, something's not right here...
Why do you even MIUI in the first place ?
I had the same. Only the factory reset showed the miui13 claw on Android 12. Tetaz everything runs smoothly. The battery holds up better.
I'm not inclined to do that just now. I've got tons of music and stuff on my phone and I really don't have the time at the moment, but push come to shove, maybe I'll have to do it.
jarco1 said:
Should i factory reset broh my miui updater was not working and everytime it was downloading corrupted zip so i downloaded it from the web with exact same name of the zip file from xiaomi server and updated in miui additional update.
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Just updated my X3 Pro about an hour ago and I'm totally disappointed. It feels heavier and slower to respond overall. Apps like Twitter, Telegram, and Instagram seem much slower and laggy and stutter when scrolling. Twitter in particular runs like disaster. My phone was buttery smooth and did not have any lagging issue even when I tried to create one before this stupid update!!! Should I factory reset or wait for another update or something guys?
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Just updated my X3 Pro about an hour ago and I'm totally disappointed. It feels heavier and slower to respond overall. Apps like Twitter, Telegram, and Instagram seem much slower and laggy and stutter when scrolling. Twitter in particular runs like disaster. My phone was buttery smooth and did not have any lagging issue even when I tried to create one before this stupid update!!! Should I factory reset or wait for another update or something guys?
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Mine is slowly getting there, in terms of ease of use and overall smoothness, so I suppose it's a matter of Android reconstructing apps and system caches after all. It's not quite as smooth as it was under 12.5.9, though, and some "features" are mildly annoying, like the fact that I have to tap the Return to home button twice to actually close some apps (but not all of them). It's hard to tell if the app itself is causing this or if it's an Android 12 trait.
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Mine is slowly getting there, in terms of ease of use and overall smoothness, so I suppose it's a matter of Android reconstructing apps and system caches after all. It's not quite as smooth as it was under 12.5.9, though, and some "features" are mildly annoying, like the fact that I have to tap the Return to home button twice to actually close some apps (but not all of them). It's hard to tell if the app itself is causing this or if it's an Android 12 trait.
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I'm also seeing some improvements over time! Totally agree with you! It's getting better as things get reconstructed and stuff but STILL it feels slower than the snappy phone it was before the update. Seems we need to be patient! I don't think a factory reset is worth the time and hassle now that things are showing signs of getting back to normal.
I totally agree. I resort to factory reset only when necessary, with a gun to my head and a knife to my throat...
Let's give it a week or so and we'll see; After all, it's a big upgrade: new MIUI version + moving from Android 11 to Android 12.
Time will tell, but I'm relieved to see it's not my imagination if the phone feels slower!
UglyStuff said:
I totally agree. I resort to factory reset only when necessary, with a gun to my head and a knife to my throat...
Let's give it a week or so and we'll see; After all, it's a big upgrade: new MIUI version + moving from Android 11 to Android 12.
Time will tell, but I'm relieved to see it's not my imagination if the phone feels slower!
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Agreed! Yup, it definitely is slower to my eyes too. It's no imagination. Sure, it's a BIG update and many enhancements and fixes are to follow in the near future!
Everyone decides for himself what he wants to do. I just wrote that after the update, the phone was stuttering and restoring the factory settings made it run faster and smoother as on miui 12.5.9.0 and it heats up less
Its 2022 and people still dont get that its good to do any major updates on clean phone or do factory reset to remove any issues, official or not, its just how android work really :/
People always had such issues and they probably will have them in the future.
Its not like your life depend on getting new software, so just update later when you have some free time to do clean install or do factory reset.
It remind me of installing custom ROMs when you get feeling that its smoother. Well most of that speed came from having clean system, and after month or two you loose some of it. Here you have clooged system with your stuff and app cache, and you throw on top new OS... you will get some issues...
You guys should know that it is highly recommended to reset during a major Android update if you don't then don't be surprised by weird bugs.
its the common rule,when you are updating any rom on any device,its proper to factory reset and built from then.....i believe its a dirty installation even if you factory reset-install rom-restore data from recovery....even that it will give you some errors....noticed last time with a11,restored from backup ,and the time between restarts,is way to more.....
I have the same problem. I updated it on March 16 (Wednesday) and it's obviously buggy and slow. Google discover on the home screen was so unstable I had to remove it altogether. Phone lags in being unlocked by fingerprint, and locking it with two taps is done without any animation. Gallery is un-usable too as it's become to slow and it stutters. The game boost slider in games is un-usable as it interferes with the game so I've disabled it. I am NOT happy with this upgrade.
Battery might've improved but I suspect they've sacrificed the performance.
just install a custom rom
John1337 said:
I have the same problem. I updated it on March 16 (Wednesday) and it's obviously buggy and slow. Google discover on the home screen was so unstable I had to remove it altogether. Phone lags in being unlocked by fingerprint, and locking it with two taps is done without any animation. Gallery is un-usable too as it's become to slow and it stutters. The game boost slider in games is un-usable as it interferes with the game so I've disabled it. I am NOT happy with this upgrade.
Battery might've improved but I suspect they've sacrificed the performance.
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You can read. After all, many people wrote that after such a large update, and even more so, switching from android 11 to 12, it is advisable to do a factory reset and you will not have any problems. The fluidity will increase significantly and the battery will hold better. It's so hard to understand. The same is done when installing a custom rom.
jarco1 said:
You can read. After all, many people wrote that after such a large update, and even more so, switching from android 11 to 12, it is advisable to do a factory reset and you will not have any problems. The fluidity will increase significantly and the battery will hold better. It's so hard to understand. The same is done when installing a custom rom.
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Maybe work on your grammar and semantics first, and then talk about things being difficult to understand. It's common knowledge that a factory-reset is advisable after an upgrade, and it's not like you're imparting arcane knowledge by saying a factory-reset should be done. What is being discussed here are bugs encountered after an upgrade, and since it's android 12 it's expected that a factory reset shouldn't be needed.
Check your attitude, no one asked for help.
In my opinion, Miui's overall optimization on this phone is a disaster. In one year they haven't been able to correct the Google Discover's tremendous lag yet (I think they haven't even tried to). I have done a totally clean installation of Miui 13 Android 12 via fastboot (using miflash). I must say that the optimization now is even worse than it was before the update. The phone just feels slower. Of course we can use custom roms, but it is Xiaomi's responsability to do a much better work with their software.
I hid the notification and I will not update for a long time until I know that there are improvements to something, since the beta I read that the version has problems :/
Hi guys.
It's been approximately 6 years since i bought this old beast. this is the first phone in my life that didn't torture me with freezes or lags after using it for some time thanks to its powerful hardware.
but now this beast is not agile like how it used to be, sometimes it freezes and does things with too much latency, as far as i remember, there were about 2 or 3 times that my phone froze too hard that i needed to do force shut down and almost all of them happened not more than 2 years ago. when i bought my PC 2 years ago, i started flashing different custom and official roms so many times now my phone runs LineageOS 18.1 currently.
I'm curious to know what caused my phone to slow down.
since i flash my phone sometimes and do full wipe each time before doing it, i think the problem is not software-related.
I've did some searches in google and found out that it can't be the CPU and it seems true because sometimes i'm playing some music while browsing in chrome and switching between apps, the phone lags even freezes but the music keeps playing without any stutter. I've read that memory chips can get worn over time so i'm guessing the problem is caused by one or both of these two:
1.eMMC chip
2.RAM chip
what is your comment? are these two the source of the problem? can the eMMC chip get replaced in this phone?
Have you updated or upgraded it, you know the destroyer of worlds stuff?
Phones don't slow down for no reason.
If nothing else changed and it's running atypically after a factory reset, the firmware may have been corrupted, reflash same version.
Pre Pie OS's are suspectable to that nasty class of rootkits that can worm out of the user partition. Again reflash it.
Battery, when was it last replaced? If the battery can't sink peak current demands it will cause all manner of trouble. Replace every 1 to 2 years on a heavily used device, routine maintenance.
It's possible there's been a subtle hardware failure maybe the ram or a microscopic transistor or two in the chipset. Cracked solder joint; BGA chipsets are especially vulnerable to this. A ribbon connector connection is intermittent.
TheShadowOfAGhost20 said:
Hi guys.
It's been approximately 6 years since i bought this old beast. this is the first phone in my life that didn't torture me with freezes or lags after using it for some time thanks to its powerful hardware.
but now this beast is not agile like how it used to be, sometimes it freezes and does things with too much latency, as far as i remember, there were about 2 or 3 times that my phone froze too hard that i needed to do force shut down and almost all of them happened not more than 2 years ago. when i bought my PC 2 years ago, i started flashing different custom and official roms so many times now my phone runs LineageOS 18.1 currently.
I'm curious to know what caused my phone to slow down.
since i flash my phone sometimes and do full wipe each time before doing it, i think the problem is not software-related.
I've did some searches in google and found out that it can't be the CPU and it seems true because sometimes i'm playing some music while browsing in chrome and switching between apps, the phone lags even freezes but the music keeps playing without any stutter. I've read that memory chips can get worn over time so i'm guessing the problem is caused by one or both of these two:
1.eMMC chip
2.RAM chip
what is your comment? are these two the source of the problem? can the eMMC chip get replaced in this phone?
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You should be able to look at the memory each app is using. Chrome is known for being a memory hog. Your phone has 3 GB of Ram. Back 6 years ago that would be OK, today 6GB is even on the low side.
RF Junkey said:
You should be able to look at the memory each app is using. Chrome is known for being a memory hog. Your phone has 3 GB of Ram. Back 6 years ago that would be OK, today 6GB is even on the low side.
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True, limited running apps. Some new phones are shipping now with 6 or 8gb of ram; not enough. 12 or16gb be better.
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Thank you guys for your answers
blackhawk said:
you know the destroyer of worlds stuff?
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Haven't understood this, do you mean the bad policies from companies such as slowing down their phones by updates to force users to buy their new phones?
blackhawk said:
Battery, when was it last replaced?
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sometime between 1 and 2 years ago. i don't see any problem that relates to battery like random reboots etc. but could they affect performance without random reboots or boot problems?
blackhawk said:
It's possible there's been a subtle hardware failure maybe the ram or a microscopic transistor or two in the chipset. Cracked solder joint; BGA chipsets are especially vulnerable to this. A ribbon connector connection is intermittent.
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well, last time i remember i dropped the phone was about 2 years ago. one of the annoying problems of my phone is it's front and back panels start getting detached, i got used to it, there is much dust inside the phone, the camera quality has been reduced because of it.
this phone played a gaming PC's role when i didn't have a PC (sometimes i held my phone in front of my fan to stop CPU throttling because of heat).
i too think there might be possible failures.
RF Junkey said:
Your phone has 3 GB of Ram. Back 6 years ago that would be OK, today 6GB is even on the low side.
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You're right, but i've experienced problems which were caused by low RAMs. the apps crash when there is no space available in RAM, i had this problem with all other phones. but in this phone i haven't seen such problem(because of RAM) so far even once!
Rule #1, if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.
Upgrades, destroyer of worlds
Pre Android 9 have some very serious rootkit vulnerabilities. Android 9 is fairly secure and best left be especially on an older phone.
On my N10+'s I don't do upgrades or updates. Running on Android 9 and 10.
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Rule #1, if a OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.
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Sometimes i think about it, Android 6 is not that old. apps still support it. but i don't know why the hell i'm attracted to custom ROMs i can't stop thinking about them...
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hahaha got it. yeah i saw so many bad things by newer Androids. Most important of all of them are ridiculous restrictions.
one of the many reasons i believe in Android and HATE IOS is the freedom of Android but Google is screwing up so bad, making Android as disgusting as IOS.
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Sometimes i think about it, Android 6 is not that old. apps still support it. but i don't know why the hell i'm attracted to custom ROMs i can't stop thinking about them...
hahaha got it. yeah i saw so many bad things by newer Androids. Most important of all of them are ridiculous restrictions.
one of the many reasons i believe in Android and HATE IOS is the freedom of Android but Google is screwing up so bad, making Android as disgusting as IOS.
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Pre Android 9 OS are suspectable to those nasty rootkits that can worm out of the user partition.
A reflash maybe needed to purge it. Security though is largely controlled by the user; no saving dumb bunnies... not even Android 12.
I went from Kitkat to Pie, yeah a little future shock there
Pie runs very well but that's on a N10+ with 12gb of ram. Nominally it uses 5-5.7gb of ram, so on an phone with less ram than that it may impact performance.
Pie has some annoying data app limitations but is reasonably secure, fast, stable and no scoped storage.
I have a second N10+ that's running on Android 10 (it shipped like that) Scoped storage appears to not be fully active. It has close to 100 new Samsung system apps to make it look and function like the Pie load. If that gives you an idea of how badly Google Android is boning developers. Otherwise it's stats are about the same as are appearance and functionality.
Old apps like the 6yo free version of WP Office will run fine in it. However Karma Firewall losses it's valuable logging feature in 10 That seems to be the worst of it.
Android 11 and especially 12 are hogs on the N10+. Scoped storage is fully active along with the endless "do you really want to" permissions.
Might as well have a bloody Apple as use 11 or 12. Functionality and usability take a nose dive along with battery life. Gookill strikes again...
Be warned.
As a result I will remain on Android 9 and 10.
Between Samsung's and Google Android's ball dropping fest I blew off the N20U, S21U and the latest S22U for another N10+, no regrets.
So yeah, you gotta do what works best for you.
I use whatever comes in handy