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Should I update to EMUI 5?

Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?

Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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This is the only Nougat your going to get
And sure a factory reset is always good after a major OS update
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If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo

salihss said:
If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
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I can confirm my battery life took a dive. I am now *charging* my phone when I drive home from work. I didn't need to do this before with MM. Sadly Huawei screwed up the battery life and no solution in sight.

Here are some likes and dislikes on it. I do suggest you read before you update. Once updated, rollback would require you to reset.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/help/honor-8-nougat-emui-likes-unlikes-t3556351

Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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I personally can´t recommend it. Battery for me isn´t bad but I´m having a ridiculous amount of graphical glitches, bugs with notifications and sometimes apps like camera, can´t be opened on the lockscreen cause some lockscreen elements overlay and won´t allow interaction with the camera app until I restarted my phone.
Seems like people having all kinds of different issues, that others don´t have.
Really weird.

I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
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Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.

johnhux7 said:
I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
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Updated, and well the battery is draining faster than usual but it drains about the same speed that it drained when I first got the phone.... But I believe that the battery will be back to normal in a couple of days.
AllieKitty said:
Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
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I have updated and I must say, I really love the new features and that they fixed some of the bugs

Only glitch I've found is with the gyroscope. Only had the phone a day so not sure what it was like before the update, but this video suggests it only happened after updating;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBFz-i_ruXc
Whether anyone else has had this problem?

next phone?

after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+

unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really digging on Sammy anymore. After having this phone I will never go back to a phone without front firing speakers and a "selfie" flash. I don't give two figs about Moto mods but give me a "refresh" of this phone with updated specs and I'm all in! Otherwise GoodbyeMoto.

unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...

acejavelin said:
Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
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Very happy with it, it'll last me another year or two at least If I keep charging up to 90% to help with the long run, but I would have to say my next phone definitely would have front facing speakers and has a big screen, which the newer phones are having bigger screens so that's an easy mark to pass. The front facing speakers though, that's a dying breed now a days because of the new bezeless design of newer flagships.

Moto z with battery mod
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I am waiting to see what the Nokia 9 spec are rumoured front facing stereo speakers have a nice big screen ?
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For me it definitely won't be another motorola/lenovo phone.
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.

I'll probably go over to lg g5, xiaomi mi6 ot oneplus 3t whichever gets cheaper

OCmylife said:
I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
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It is just a damn shame the OP3T is GSM only, for those of us in the US. I get it, though; it's an international device and the CDMA market is too small globally to be worth changing the whole design over. Other than that, it seems like as close to a perfect phone as you'll find in today's compromised market.

My next will be Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or S8+. This probably won't happen until around Black Friday. I'm really fond of my Moto X but miss Touch Wiz.

I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.

Feahnor said:
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.

aybarrap1 said:
Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).

I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
Suggestions?

I agree with the 3T if your on GSM get it I've also switched and man was it worth it I even relocked my bootloader and stayed on stock it's that good I get 4 or 5 hours SOT when I'm at work and I got terrible service there and don't even need to charge midday I'll have 15% before I plug in when I hit the bed when I'm not at work I'll get 2 days with 7 hr SOT it's a beast hands down no root or mods

matthelm said:
I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
Suggestions?
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...

acejavelin said:
Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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Feahnor said:
I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Then I say go for the iPhone. My general opinion is that Android was partially designed with the idea of customizing the user experience.
As far as being a secure OS, Android itself is secure. With security updates being provided regularly now, it is more so. Honestly, a Google phone, aka Pixel, will get timely updates, doesn't require mods to be usable, and has the option to customize should you choose to do so. And not to mention no proprietary software causing security issues (here's looking at you LG).

Feahnor said:
I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Apple is doing its proprietary implementation of everything too, it's even worse than android devices.
And why having each OEM making their UX for android make it unsecure, unstable and unsafe ?
User having to work to make things work ? isn't your phone working as the OEM intended it to be ? you bought your phone not knowing what it can or can't do ? I wont buy a phone that can't have a specific feature that i need and then complain that i have to implement it by myself
Your arguments to explain why you're moving to IOS are flimsy.
You can be bored of android, or wanting to try IOS, but man android unsafe, unsecure or unstable ? custom roms can be unstable, but it's not the OEM fault.

aybarrap1 said:
Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I gave up on CDMA and Verizon in general about 4 years ago with a Nexus 4... I've bounced between a few providers since then, will never go back to Verizon. I pay $36 per month per line for unlimited calls and texts, and 8GB of unthrottled AT&T LTE data per line. I'll deal with marginal service in a few rural areas I rarely go as a trade-off.

Android 8.1 beta now available

https://twitter.com/sarvikas/status/955753890770665472
Get it here :
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/betalabs

Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace

I have been battering it since installing and i cant make it cough, splutter or hiccup, seems all but finished to me rather than a beta.

Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.

amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .

xterminater07 said:
Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
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Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.

aoleg said:
Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.

amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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amunarjoh said:
Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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I do not have the phone, I have another phone that uses the same sensors as the Nokia 8, that's why I would like to have the system dump so I can see some information regarding cameras. Or if you can link me to the beta download that would be great. I can try to pull files and info from it.

I haven't noticed any crashes on this beta, but the battery life is definitely worse for me.
This device has no root, so pulling the system will be difficult I think.

MrBelter said:
Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.

If you set animations to 0.5x you can notice the speed improvement more. Though could be placebo. Before 0.5x was more choppy and 8.1 feels smoother.

8.1 is definitely smoother!
The double tap on recent apps (for fast change) are waaay faster and without a single hiccup for me.
Battery have better stand-by with wifi and auto sync on.
Less than 1% per hour! (almost two hours to drain 1%)
Sent from my Nokia 8!

aoleg said:
That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
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Wow chill your beans, i am fully aware what beta testing is and i certainly do not need preaching to about it by the likes of you.
I was about to report that the standby times on my phone are also reduced but i don't think i'll bother now, you seem to have it all covered with your comprehensive report.

I observe that when i take my phone out of my pocket it automatically unlocks the screen lock( i put my finger on fp sensor when i take my phone out of my pocket). After that i checked if there is a problem with the light sensor, so i covered it so it couldn't get any light but still unlocked the phone when i used my fp to unlock it. Do you guys have that problem? Also to note that when i am making phone calls light sensor works like normal.
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USB tethering also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots.

still no ambient display......

Also the pop up when i want to disable the mobile data is frustrating. Is there a way to disable this?
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bluetooht not working
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit

hennieh said:
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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I'm using Bluetooth with two different car kits, speaker and headphones. No issues at all. Actually it seems to be using less power than on 8.0.
On 8.0 sometimes I couldn't connect to car kit. On 8.1 this issue seems to be gone.

This is the kind of battery life i am getting now after a few days running the beta, i still think standby times are worse but not shockingly so.

Have you ever downgraded back to Nougat from Oreo?

Just out of curiosity of how many of us here downgraded from Oreo to Nougat.
I just downgraded last night from N to O after running it for about a month or so and to be honest the Bluetooth unstable connection on Oreo was just getting out of hand, plus I felt like the device was slower and battery life is a little worse?
Might be me but I felt Nougat was the sweet spot for this device. I tried resetting my phone a few times and nothing got me satisfied with the update. In fact just last night I was out of town, I had to use Google Maps to get around and I had music playing, 5 mins later went to check my phone and it crashed! Yes this is the first time I have ever experienced this phone crashed and restarted out of almost the year I've owned this device. Also the system notifications were getting quite annoying but that's very minuscule. Not downing on Oreo but I believe Huawei could've done a better job with this update, truly disappointed, got back at 3am and got back to Nougat and haven't looked back since, at least until some good comes out of Oreo.
Did you downgraded from Oreo to Nougat?
If so, what are your reasons and why?

XERO_Racer said:
Just out of curiosity of how many of us here downgraded from Oreo to Nougat.
I just downgraded last night from N to O after running it for about a month or so and to be honest the Bluetooth unstable connection on Oreo was just getting out of hand, plus I felt like the device was slower and battery life is a little worse?
Might be me but I felt Nougat was the sweet spot for this device. I tried resetting my phone a few times and nothing got me satisfied with the update. In fact just last night I was out of town, I had to use Google Maps to get around and I had music playing, 5 mins later went to check my phone and it crashed! Yes this is the first time I have ever experienced this phone crashed and restarted out of almost the year I've owned this device. Also the system notifications were getting quite annoying but that's very minuscule. Not downing on Oreo but I believe Huawei could've done a better job with this update, truly disappointed, got back at 3am and got back to Nougat and haven't looked back since, at least until some good comes out of Oreo.
Did you downgraded from Oreo to Nougat?
If so, what are your reasons and why?
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Downgraded cause I missed Xposed framework, then updated and decided to give it a real go, playing asphalt 8, and the game gets slow, then crashes the phone completely, resulting in a restart, not sure if it's the game though or the phone, **** never happened on nougat though, procrastinating about going back to it, cause it was cool.

I did downgrade to Nougat because i felt that with Oreo my phone got a little slower, xposed of course, media volume steps that i couldn't increase on Oreo.

shae23 said:
Downgraded cause I missed Xposed framework, then updated and decided to give it a real go, playing asphalt 8, and the game gets slow, then crashes the phone completely, resulting in a restart, not sure if it's the game though or the phone, **** never happened on nougat though, procrastinating about going back to it, cause it was cool.
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For a few weeks it was an off and on debate to go back to Nougat till yesterday finally happened, no regrets either
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I did downgrade to Nougat because i felt that with Oreo my phone got a little slower, xposed of course, media volume steps that i couldn't increase on Oreo.
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Yeah I had the impression the phone felt much slower with Oreo

Same here, Nougat seems to be best fitted - snappy, fast fingerprint, background services friendly. Only incall volume steps could be doubled (like in Oreo).

I've downgraded twice now. (it is much easier I found to downgrade to nougat in order to rebrand the device). Also, since you can use hisuite to downgrade (not on all firmwares but most, it makes it so easy). I have also used Firmware Finder to downgrade and has worked for me too. As for experience wise thus far, I have still upgraded and gone back to oreo. Like some of the added features.

Question Should I buy iqoo 7 for long term use?

We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?

Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Going by iQOO track record do not expect any development or custom roms in future. It would be good for 2 years then you'll have update to new phone. Do not expect any development. Like LOS, Even simple bootloader unlock and root will not be possible.

This is actually true for almost all Android phones these days. I want able to use my S9+ Street 2 years because it's battery decayed pretty fast. My wife's phone's displayed died. She had the S9 and we bought both phones together.
Updated and custom ROMs aren't that great these days because of plethora of phones and great devs of this forum also can't keep up with whether to fix issues with current build or to push next update build.
I used to own an HTC Wildfire S and its devs were pretty mind blowing. It used to have great ROMs which were much faster than stock. But these days stock ROMs are also good enough if you disable some bloatware and irrelevant system apps.
I have disabled some system apps using adb and am not facing any kind of adware notifications and the phone is smooth as ever.
I never even tried to root my S9+ also since I never found any good reason to lose Knox and DRM capabilities just for a little bit faster but still bugged ROM since I had the Exynos version.
With stock I prefer the peace of mind.
I've shared all my thoughts with you on this, now choice is yours.

Quite right. And will there be something significant better then screen 120hz, 12gb ufs 3.1, incredible fast charging, 120 watt 18 minutes fully charged, exceptional good battery management, at least 36hrs with full use of phones possibilities. Processor SD 888, good for the next 4 years I think.

With the increasing complexity of hardware, various chips (additional display chip in Iqoo 7), multiple cameras, etc. it will be difficult for custom rom devs to keep up with future of android. We will have to learn to live with Stock ROMs.
I suggest to keep full backup of each stock ROM before upgrade so that you have option to roll back incase you dont like performance/features of upgraded ROM.

Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.

The device's heating issue is a major concern. if a gaming phone gets toasted frequently it won't last longer

Gad0 said:
Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
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I agree but I change my device every 6 to 8 month so no worries and I get try new features comes with an update

Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Always have an external storage or Hardisk to save your files or if you loose your device you might miss a lot of data. I always back my data and keep my device free