Android 8.1 beta now available - Nokia 8 Guides, News, & Discussion

https://twitter.com/sarvikas/status/955753890770665472
Get it here :
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/betalabs

Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace

I have been battering it since installing and i cant make it cough, splutter or hiccup, seems all but finished to me rather than a beta.

Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.

amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .

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Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
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Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.

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Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.

amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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amunarjoh said:
Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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I do not have the phone, I have another phone that uses the same sensors as the Nokia 8, that's why I would like to have the system dump so I can see some information regarding cameras. Or if you can link me to the beta download that would be great. I can try to pull files and info from it.

I haven't noticed any crashes on this beta, but the battery life is definitely worse for me.
This device has no root, so pulling the system will be difficult I think.

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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.

If you set animations to 0.5x you can notice the speed improvement more. Though could be placebo. Before 0.5x was more choppy and 8.1 feels smoother.

8.1 is definitely smoother!
The double tap on recent apps (for fast change) are waaay faster and without a single hiccup for me.
Battery have better stand-by with wifi and auto sync on.
Less than 1% per hour! (almost two hours to drain 1%)
Sent from my Nokia 8!

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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
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Wow chill your beans, i am fully aware what beta testing is and i certainly do not need preaching to about it by the likes of you.
I was about to report that the standby times on my phone are also reduced but i don't think i'll bother now, you seem to have it all covered with your comprehensive report.

I observe that when i take my phone out of my pocket it automatically unlocks the screen lock( i put my finger on fp sensor when i take my phone out of my pocket). After that i checked if there is a problem with the light sensor, so i covered it so it couldn't get any light but still unlocked the phone when i used my fp to unlock it. Do you guys have that problem? Also to note that when i am making phone calls light sensor works like normal.
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USB tethering also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots.

still no ambient display......

Also the pop up when i want to disable the mobile data is frustrating. Is there a way to disable this?
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bluetooht not working
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit

hennieh said:
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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I'm using Bluetooth with two different car kits, speaker and headphones. No issues at all. Actually it seems to be using less power than on 8.0.
On 8.0 sometimes I couldn't connect to car kit. On 8.1 this issue seems to be gone.

This is the kind of battery life i am getting now after a few days running the beta, i still think standby times are worse but not shockingly so.

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Horrible Battery Life

Hello All,
I have (2) N5's (one white, one black). I've noticed that battery life on the black one is extremely bad. I'm almost always near a charger, so it was quite a shock when I noticed the black one down to 37% by noon. The next day I swapped phones and never saw the charge on the white one drop below 97%. I wiped both phones and configured each identically and was able to duplicate very similar results over the next few days. This morning I decided to see what happened when I did not connect to a charger. My use has been almost nothing (5 mins of screen time, 3 hrs off battery), yet my phone is already at 81%. I notice "Android OS" is using approx 50% of the battery. I do have a few apps that run in the background and I also leave GPS, BT, mobile and wifi on all of the time, however this is no different than how I used the white one or any previous phones. I suspect this is a hardware problem, however I would like to try to pinpoint the cause to satisfy my own curiosity. Can anyone recommend specific apps/tools that would provide more detailed information about what is going on with the different subsystems (battery, cpu, radios, storage, etc) that could help me find the problem? Thank you.
Do some searching and reading.
It's your apps. Not a hardware problem.
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Do a complete factory restore on both, with full charge, Then don't touch them at all, the post results
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You have a wakelock obviously. My Android OS does the same thing, but it doesnt destroy the battery that bad. My wakelock is wlan_rx_wake, and its very annoying to get rid of. Still havent found a way to kill it yet.
I've noticed if you turn the location settings to "Device only" the Nexus 5 sips battery, while the screen is off, because it isn't always waking itself 1,000+ times a day to report your location.
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Pretty sure that's what I'm doing?
It's your apps. Not a hardware problem.
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I initially thought the same thing; however, I did not install any apps after wiping the phone, yet the problem remains. Also, I do not have this problem on my other N5 with all of my normal apps installed and configured for normal use.
Do a complete factory restore on both, with full charge, Then don't touch them at all, the post results
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I did this... mostly. After wiping both phones (by reflashing the factory image) I did charge both to 100% before using them. Unfortunately, I am on-call 24/7 and have to use one phone at all times. I did keep usage as identical as possible. I did this by not installing any apps and charging at the same times for the same amount of time. Also, my commute and time at work/home/elsewhere was almost identical. Of course there are some things that are out of my control (call, sms, emails, etc received), however it was certainly not enough to account for the difference I am seeing. If I take the phones off the charger at 7A, and use as little as possible, the white one will be >90% where the black one with be <40% by noon.
You have a wakelock obviously. My Android OS does the same thing, but it doesnt destroy the battery that bad. My wakelock is wlan_rx_wake, and its very annoying to get rid of. Still havent found a way to kill it yet.
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This very well may be. How did you find out that your wakelock is wlan_rx_wake? This is what I'm really seeking - app recommendations or other ways to acquire this in-depth information. I've done some googling, but many of the apps that I've seen recommended do not work with KitKat. What I find most odd is how the white N5 with a 100% identical configuration does not have this problem.
I've noticed if you turn the location settings to "Device only" the Nexus 5 sips battery, while the screen is off, because it isn't always waking itself 1,000+ times a day to report your location.
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Thank you. I suspect this would make a difference, however I am basing my expected usage on what I get with the white N5 with the same configuration. I did not change any settings on either and would like to see them similar with the same configuration. Once the issue is worked out, I will definitely take your advice and change this setting to increase my battery life.
Thank you all.
Did you download the firmware from Google then flash it in bootloader? Also you need to flash both phones to stock, Then not install any apps or settings on both so there both the same. That's a fair test.
If you can't do this, Then this thread is pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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markdexter said:
Did you download the firmware from Google then flash it in bootloader? Also you need to flash both phones to stock, Then not install any apps or settings on both so there both the same. That's a fair test.
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Yes, I downloaded and flashed the stock image from Google. I run stock on all of my Nexus devices. I did not install any apps, however I had to setup E-Mail and modify my APN settings.
If you can't do this, Then this thread is pointless as far as I'm concerned.
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Why the attitude? You're clearly a helpful person, based on the time you spend helping others on here. If you're having a bad day or dealing with some personal issues, I sincerely hope things get better for you. If you really have a problem with my test constraints, then please move along. As a UNIX Administrator for the past 15 years, and a component-level electronics tech for 5 years before that, I can tell you from experience that the real world simply does not always provide for ideal conditions. While I agree that a 100% identical setup is preferred as a control, it's simply not an option. Even with my constraints, there is no way the number of emails and texts that I sent/received on a given day are the cause here. All that said, the point of this thread was to gain insight into how I can find more detailed information about what is going on with the various subsystems - either app recommendations or other tools. Much of the information I've found has been high-level - Settings > Battery or BetterBatteryStats (which doesn't work with KitKat AFAIK).
Thank you.
Without the 100% identical test, it's a guessing game.
I don't have an attitude, if I did, I would have told you my credentials, but I didn't think that had anything to do with this thread...
I'm not being a smart-ass buddy, and I do like to help on here as much as possible or as much as my knowledge can allow me.
Better battery stats, is for sure your best bet, that app is a must have for trouble shooting. I'm sure within a few days, there will be a update.
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[RANT] - Lollipop is not great, but tolerable

I was very excited to see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
So, I pushed ahead thinking that Lollipop has already been in the wild long enough, surely the initial kinks like WiFi drops and battery hogging have been resolved. No such luck, and after doing it, it looks like I'm going to have to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
Lollipop is horrible. My phone no longer does one of the most basic things that's been around since the G1: Go (the F) to sleep! Seriously?!?!
Here are my other problems:
-Phone doesn't sleep on its own if timeout set for longer than 30 seconds (and even then, it's not reliable)
-WiFi doesn't reconnect after sleep (when sleep even happens, which is only when I push the button to force it). I have to toggle WiFi off/on to reconnect.
-Battery drain is pretty bad. My first month with the S5 had me barely even thinking about charging. Now, with Lollipop, I feel like I'm back on my old HTC MyTouch!
-The silly way they implemented the lockscreen. Here's my problem: I can ONLY use Settings > Sound and Notification > While locked with the option "Do not show notifications". Why? Any other setting blocks the Owner Information (Settings > Lock screen > Owner Information). If I don't, and if I'm unfortunate enough to have lost my phone, yet fortunate enough to have it found by a good samaritan, I better hope I haven't miss any calls or received any messages in the meantime. This one REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS because it's a horribly-implemented Feature ... at least the others are unintended bugs, but somebody had to give this one the green light.
-I can't adjust the icon sizes anymore. There used to be a choice of large or small icons.
-Oh, and for some bonehead reason, Samsung decided their stock ROM wouldn't have the Lollipop built-in flashlight icon.
-Another intentional feature that I can't disable: the phone keeps a history of recent activity that persists through reboots. YUCK! Why can I not disable this?!?! Again, another bonehead call that somebody had to green-light, without even considering the possibility that I might want to turn it off!
-All the UI "polishing" and improvements don't mean a thing to me, I want it to work.
I found all of the above in less than 24 hours on Lollipop! I might lose my s**t entirely if I keep it for much longer.
Here is my take on why:
Google and Apple are in a heated race to the top. They wrongly assume that what will set each apart from one another is almost entirely dependent on what a few bloggers say about some hot new feature. The paradigm appears to be something like: "Who cares if millions of loyal subscribers lose functionality when we want 100 people to have this one obscure and half-baked feature?"
Latest != Greatest
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I've had a change of heart on this. It's not too bad, I just needed to adjust a few settings and live with the other issues.
I too do not like the lolli. Bad battery life, and for some reason the Heart rate monitor led turns on whenever anything is within a half inch of it. I just can't figure that out, but it sucks the battery like a red led vampire!
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Don't start a thread just to complain
Lmfao when I saw that link and clicked it, I actually had that same thread opened moments before opening this thread because I, too, am having to go back to KitKat. I laughed for a good 20 seconds. Lollipop is freaking terrible at the moment. Zero customization and Google + Samsung are forcing too much garbage on us without giving any bit of customization.
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I too do not like the lolli. Bad battery life, and for some reason the Heart rate monitor led turns on whenever anything is within a half inch of it. I just can't figure that out, but it sucks the battery like a red led vampire!
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Heart rate monitor thing was fixed in OC4 I think, but if it still goes off a factory reset will fix it.
Agree
OP, I agree with you. It probably is the first version without the definitely improvement overall for users. It is risky to upgrade and troublesome if it didn't work out well on your devices. Wish Android 5.1 could be better than Kitkat overall.
I have absolutely no problems with the lollipop. I always had it stock from the start and just let the OTAs take over on their own. Have you tried even rebooting into recovery and wipe cache? Even though it's not a custom recovery you can still do that, also even when you dirty flash nightlies that's something that's good practice. My wife's phone had similar issues that I wasn't experiencing, until I did that to her phone and now she's having no problems. Now the general annoyances of how Samsung implemented ****, I understand, it's stupid with not having native flashlight, tethering is annoying having to use foxfi, and the lockscreen.. bleh. But other than that, everything is actually working like it is supposed to
Chiming in, Yes it's bad.
I have two lines with Verizon, both with S5 phones on them. Great device, its actually the first Android phone I've had that I did not do anything with beyond the out of the box experience. That changed when Lollipop was pushed via OTA, the most prominent issue I experienced on both of my S5s is general responsiveness issues, simple things like switching apps or launching apps sometimes would leave me with a white screen for between 5-10 seconds, an eternity especially when the device was lighting fast on 4.4.4 Kitkat. I followed every suggestion from wiping the device in Android, Wiping in recovery, wiping cache, all of these with only marginal improvements. It really is a shame that Google / Samsung did not do a bit better quality assurance on this build before it was pushed out to carriers and ultimately peoples devices. It says something that other carriers skipped 5.0 and that very rapidly 5.1 surfaced on Newer devices / Nexus devices.
As of last night both of my phones are Odin'd back to 4.4.4 and its like having a brand new phone. Sure, there might not be as much polish, but there are no features I will die without having. The only one that I can say I do miss is the feature where the device will disable the lock screen when your smart watch or home WiFi is connected.
Here's to hoping that Google eventually gets Android 5 right in the optimization department and that Samsung picks it up for the S5, and that Verizon gets it ready for OTA before I am ready to move on to a new device. Not interested in the S6 at all for its sealed nature for storage and battery, but that's for another thread on a different day.
-Nate
I Have to agree. I've given it several chances to perform to expectations but it just fails.... ( insert sad puppy face here ) no matter what I have tried it just under-performs and the biggest thing is the horrible battery life. Sooooo yeah like most of the other commentators in this thread, I'm moving back to 4.4.4......
Unfortunately/fortunately, I have found most of my battery issues were solved with a factory reset. I'm more frustrated that Samsung seems to having issues with Android Auto.
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Observations, not complaints. Getting these points out in the open is an essential stepping stone to getting them fixed. Maybe, just maybe, a Producteer or architect at Google has read this by now so they know what to improve next time. Problems cannot be solved until they are defined.
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The issue with the screen not sleeping was actually related to the "Show CPU Usage" setting in the app "OS Monitor". I've used that for years on previous Android version with no problems. In Lollipop, it must be disabled.
CaptainRewind said:
Observations, not complaints. Getting these points out in the open is an essential stepping stone to getting them fixed. Maybe, just maybe, a Producteer or architect at Google has read this by now so they know what to improve next time. Problems cannot be solved until they are defined.
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The issue with the screen not sleeping was actually related to the "Show CPU Usage" setting in the app "OS Monitor". I've used that for years on previous Android version with no problems. In Lollipop, it must be disabled.
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Yeah, go start a petition, just like the bootloader guys, see how far it got them? No one from google reads your complaint threads and regrets their work...
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Yeah, go start a petition, just like the bootloader guys, see how far it got them? No one from google reads your complaint threads and regrets their work...
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Yeah, I guess that was wishful thinking.
In any case, it seems this thread was a complete waste of time. It made me feel better at the time, but looking back on it and the purpose of this site, it doesn't add any value or help anyone modify their phone. Not only that, one of my primary reasons for the OP was the screen lock issues which turned out to be an app, not the Android version.
So, I stand corrected. Live and learn. Enough said.
My wife would never let me root her phone ever. After this update either I find a way to go back a few with root or it goes against the wall. Looks like I have to start reading and figure out how to do this.
Lol I love how you described it. Sometimes you have to vent. Lol
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The issue with the screen not sleeping was actually related to the "Show CPU Usage" setting in the app "OS Monitor". I've used that for years on previous Android version with no problems. In Lollipop, it must be disabled.
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Care to share where this app is?
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Care to share where this app is?
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This is the one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor&hl=en
It's a great app, but something about it staying active in the Notification Bar keeps the screen awake. I still use the app, just can't keep the notification active in Lollipop.
And in case it isn't obvious, even though I still have my concerns about Lollipop, I never did go about the procedure of downgrading. It looks like a risky procedure, and I don't want to trip Knox, or worse, have a brick.
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This is the one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor&hl=en
It's a great app, but something about it staying active in the Notification Bar keeps the screen awake. I still use the app, just can't keep the notification active in Lollipop.
And in case it isn't obvious, even though I still have my concerns about Lollipop, I never did go about the procedure of downgrading. It looks like a risky procedure, and I don't want to trip Knox, or worse, have a brick.
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Ok, so it's not a stock app. I am still having poor battery life and overheating issues.
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Should I update to EMUI 5?

Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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This is the only Nougat your going to get
And sure a factory reset is always good after a major OS update
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If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
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If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
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I can confirm my battery life took a dive. I am now *charging* my phone when I drive home from work. I didn't need to do this before with MM. Sadly Huawei screwed up the battery life and no solution in sight.
Here are some likes and dislikes on it. I do suggest you read before you update. Once updated, rollback would require you to reset.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/help/honor-8-nougat-emui-likes-unlikes-t3556351
Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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I personally can´t recommend it. Battery for me isn´t bad but I´m having a ridiculous amount of graphical glitches, bugs with notifications and sometimes apps like camera, can´t be opened on the lockscreen cause some lockscreen elements overlay and won´t allow interaction with the camera app until I restarted my phone.
Seems like people having all kinds of different issues, that others don´t have.
Really weird.
I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
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Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
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I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
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Updated, and well the battery is draining faster than usual but it drains about the same speed that it drained when I first got the phone.... But I believe that the battery will be back to normal in a couple of days.
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Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
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I have updated and I must say, I really love the new features and that they fixed some of the bugs
Only glitch I've found is with the gyroscope. Only had the phone a day so not sure what it was like before the update, but this video suggests it only happened after updating;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBFz-i_ruXc
Whether anyone else has had this problem?

Battery life lineage OS versus Color OS

Hi, I am thinking to flash lineage OS to my oppo R7 plus and I was wondering how good is the battery line in lineage OS as consider to color OS. Battery life is the most imp thing for me in my cell phone. Any body using lineage OS work oppo R7 plus - can your answer me with some figures. I wil like to know some numbers. Like if I am getting 24 hours in color OS, how many hours I will get in lineage OS?
Thanks for any answers.
Hey there i'm on the latest LineageOS build , your mileage may vary but from 100% to 0% in my experience is in 1 day and multiple hours , Screen on time around 7-8 hours. Good luck !
Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
Thanks
aiglesh said:
Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
Thanks
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
how did you managed to flash lineage os ? please help me
There is tutorial here on the forums. I have not yet flashed it though.
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Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
rch.aj34 said:
I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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This blows my mind. What didn't I do right? Didn't I sacrifice enough chickens?
TBH the Bluetooth problem (at least) is well documented, as well as being a massive dealbreaker.
Funnily enough though I don't have an audio stutter problem. But I don't use physically attached headphones.
Are you open to a crash-off, in which we both install the same LOS version and (if necessary) start adding apps until we either see my problems or we don't?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
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This helped me too, thanks. I put an inline meter and it was only drawing 1.x amps but without the meter I can see "rapidly charging" on the lockscreen. Pity there is no battery icon change for Oppo's in LineageOS (14.1).
One more thing, if you're still active... which country are you in? I first put 15.1 on my R7Plusf and right off the bat WiFi didn't work.. even after reboot etc.
I flashed 14.1 and every single thing works perfectly so far!

Android 10 issues/bugs

Since Android 10 dropped, if anyone notices any bugs or issues I figured it would be good to make a thread about them. Been using Android 10 since it dropped, and one issue that I have noticed is my signal is more sloppy and inconsistent which may be a radio issue. I am using Sprint, but the signal has been more spotty and the reception overall has declined.
Biggest issue, battery drained so fast after update. Standby mode eat up more juice compare to Android 9. 9 was giving me 6-7 hrs SOT now it's just about 3-4 hrs SOT. Few apps which were using battery percentage half of it's usage time now using double battery.look like apps are not yet optimized for Android 10.
omky_b4u said:
Biggest issue, battery drained so fast after update. Standby mode eat up more juice compare to Android 9. 9 was giving me 6-7 hrs SOT now it's just about 3-4 hrs SOT. Few apps which were using battery percentage half of it's usage time now using double battery.look like apps are not yet optimized for Android 10.
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I've had that too, but it's not too significant, and i wouldn't worry about it for the first few days while things optimize but i also noticed slight battery drain.
Been trying to update the signals. The radio is definitely having issues for my carrier.
Pixel 3 in the Call Application, my screen goes black after call in connected and I can't seem to get the screen to become active again until call is over and I hit the power button twice. This just started after an OTA update to 10...
I updated to 10 OTA and since updating my wifi calling isn't working. Whenever I try to toggle it, it just says that it's unavailable and to try again later. I haven't performed a factory reset because it's always such a pain to do that (especially with all the accounts I have using 2FA w/ Google Authenticator).
My cell/data reception has also been significantly decreased, according to my little indicator in the notifications.
Anybody else having these issues?
My reception has always been poor with this phone so I cannot confirm our deny that it's worse on Android 10 stable.
However I ota updated from final beta to stable 10 and my phone randomly goes home while I'm using it. Really annoying when having an app open to have the home screen constantly appear.
Personally I'm having between 2 and 3 hours of SOT, and always had those stats on Android 9 too, for very basic using (no calls, no gaming, no videos, slight browsing, few SMS, etc). Hope battery will be much better for the Pixel 4...
I forgot about this. My phone initially also got stuck on the boot screen. I was like oh great here we go. Apparently it's an issue. Android 10 appears to still be in beta mode despite being released as stable.
https://bgr.com/2019/09/05/android-10-update-for-pixel-phones-sensors-bug-explained/amp/
Unbeliavable, how google tries to force you towards its search engine!! I could probably get used to thr new gestures, but not to that notorious search bar!! There is no reason to block all Launchers from working with gestures. I hope somebody will soon hack that!
you are furthering probably biggest bug of Q (not affecting everyone though, but many people)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/android-10-sensors-bug-t3964904
As I said in another thread, I have not been able to flash the factory image of either the .019 or .020 firmware. I've been doing the method of running the flash.bat file minus "-w" to prevent it from wiping my phone, using the latest SDK Platform Tools and after trying both they both cause a bootloop. My phone will attempt to boot up 2 different times and fail (assuming once for each partition, A & B?) then go back to fastboot mode.
Considering this other major bug with the sensors now not working, I guess holding off may actually a good thing for me for now.
Toronadian said:
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Considering this other major bug with the sensors now not working, I guess holding off may actually a good thing for me for now.
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i would definitively if i were you. not everyone is affected but some are so...
Sensors bug fixed thanks to great teamwork of many members in this forum! Solution available in sensors bug thread!!
Had no issue with sensors but am stock unrooted since the phone was purchased. From that link it appears it may be a rooting issue. I'm surprised that that it didn't go away though after wiping and reflashing stock images and relocking the bootloader
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Had no issue with sensors but am stock unrooted since the phone was purchased. From that link it appears it may be a rooting issue. I'm surprised that that it didn't go away though after wiping and reflashing stock images and relocking the bootloader
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still nobody knows what caused it but according to some users it seems it happened also for people who never modified their phones (people with not unlockable bl)
It's weird, this sensor bug everyone is having i never once had sth like that, flashed the official q factory image from beta 6 via the tool-all-in-one app. What i was thinking is, does the phone have different hardware revisions ? I am with the initial rev and can't tell
Gotten at least 3 random reboots since taking. Anyone else getting periodic recent app switching freezing or random reboots?
Hello.
I have the freeze too. Random freezing from the notification. Freezing with the recent app. Sometime black wallpaper with Nova Launcher.
The Q is with bug who don't have the beta or Android 9....
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Gotten at least 3 random reboots since taking. Anyone else getting periodic recent app switching freezing or random reboots?
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Yes, I've had a few random reboots since updating. It's been happening randomly in Google maps, YouTube, etc. I don't really want to factory reset unless I have to though.
Hey guys here is an android 10 bug on my Verizon pixel 3, when I goto the recent apps and try to clear them they will all get cleared and then when I go back to it they are all still there. Anyone else having this problem?
Im using google Launcher, and when I change the gestures sometime they all clear for good but sometimes they still won't until I restart the phone.

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