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Possible input lag/ Ghost Touches once again

A few people here and there have been starting to have this problem pop up- including me.
My phone was perfectly fine with absolutely no problems with the touch screen but about three days ago, my phone started acting weird.
At that time, I was running CM 5.1 nightly and then dirty flashed over to the latest. I thought that this was the problem and so I did a clean flash but still the problem was there.
Went back to the original CM nightly that I was previously on and problem is still there.
Tried many different ROMs but the problem is still there..
I can't type out a sentence without my phone failing to register a touch and sometimes registering rapid touches as one - the same problems before Synaptic released a 'fix' for this issue.
At this point, I don't really know what to do but it's aggravating that a phone can't do it's basic tasks such as type.
The phone seems really sluggish when I type - which I haven't encountered before this which slightly leads me to believe that input lag is the crux of the problem however, I can't say for certain.
Can anyone with more expertise help me with this?

Same issue
You_got_owned123 said:
A few people here and there have been starting to have this problem pop up- including me.
My phone was perfectly fine with absolutely no problems with the touch screen but about three days ago, my phone started acting weird.
At that time, I was running CM 5.1 nightly and then dirty flashed over to the latest. I thought that this was the problem and so I did a clean flash but still the problem was there.
Went back to the original CM nightly that I was previously on and problem is still there.
Tried many different ROMs but the problem is still there..
I can't type out a sentence without my phone failing to register a touch and sometimes registering rapid touches as one - the same problems before Synaptic released a 'fix' for this issue.
At this point, I don't really know what to do but it's aggravating that a phone can't do it's basic tasks such as type.
The phone seems really sluggish when I type - which I haven't encountered before this which slightly leads me to believe that input lag is the crux of the problem however, I can't say for certain.
Can anyone with more expertise help me with this?
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Im having a similar problem. I cant type a single sentence without errors. It doesnt register the touch as well few times. Using a device is so sluggish.. hate it. Tried many roms with clean wipe but without any success. Would be nice if anyone could help with the above issues.

I have similar issues and I don't think it's a software issue - I have never flashed a ROM. I think it's hardware problem, probable the earthing suggested in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/fixing-ghost-touch-grounding-issue-hint-t2951000
There is an app that re-calibrates the touchscreen every time you turn it on, but it doesn't completely solve the problem for me and also prevents unlocking until it has completed, which is annoying. The fact that a re-calibration is needed to even achieve a little stability is consistent with an earthing problem.
If mine gets any worse, and I think it will, I'm going to investigate a warranty claim, but that sounds like a few weeks with no phone, which I can't tolerate.

hi, i'm experiencing the same problems. you can test this when registering 2 touches on the same Y axis (try with anyone of touch test apps).
I think that this is popping out to a lot of people in this moment because of the hot days kicking in. in fact, if your phone is cold (try to put in a fridge for 5 minutes) it will work perfectly, but when it will become hot again in your hands the touch will start to freak out again

What sucks is my phone was perfectly fine a few days ago and we've only had an increase of about 5 deg F over the week.
Occasionally the capacitive buttons don't register either.

Same thing here. Perfectly working screen, flashed 5.1 unofficial some weeks ago and no matter wich versión of cm or what kernel, randomly ghost touches happens.
Now with official 5.1 and ak 200 works better, but it's still there. There must be some kind of firmware/software problem, It's too curious that this issue begin to happend to many people at the same time.

My bro has the same problem, some days after flasing CM12S the screen doesn't feel as responsive anymore.
The screen isn't able to handle multiple touches anymore what makes typing really annoying, scrolling through settings also goes really slow.
Tried flashing latest 12.1 nightly but I don't think any ROM will be able to fix it.
No idea what caused it and if there is a way to fix it.

ZuLa said:
Same thing here. Perfectly working screen, flashed 5.1 unofficial some weeks ago and no matter wich versión of cm or what kernel, randomly ghost touches happens.
Now with official 5.1 and ak 200 works better, but it's still there. There must be some kind of firmware/software problem, It's too curious that this issue begin to happend to many people at the same time.
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This is exactly what happened to me and it seems like it happened to a good number of people around the same time. Either 1)It's a huge coincidence 2)OnePlus rigged our phones to go haywire around this time or 3)Something in one of the nightlys got messed up for a few people however like you said, flashing new roms for kernels doesn't help anymore which makes me want to do a complete wipe - Internal data included.

Same issue
I was sure it's the heat some time back but then this touchscreen fixer app in the Themes and Apps section is actually helping. That makes me wonder if its the firmware, coz the problem only kicked off after the CM12.1 update. A few of my classmates purchased the OPO at the same time as I did and they dont have this issue (they didnt go to CM12.1).
Any tips on what firmware/ROM to revert to?
Edit: I also flashed the Oxygen OS firmware.

It's not a change in the firmware, mine did it spontaneously. It's hardware. OnePlus will do everything they can to spin a software story and indeed it will often be possible to partially mitigate in software, but ultimately everyone with this problem should be getting a replacement. That could be a lot of people.

patp said:
It's not a change in the firmware, mine did it spontaneously. It's hardware. OnePlus will do everything they can to spin a software story and indeed it will often be possible to partially mitigate in software, but ultimately everyone with this problem should be getting a replacement. That could be a lot of people.
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I'd love to see how you jumped to such a definite conclusion. I live in a warm climate to begin with, temperatures are actually lower now than they were a month and a half ago, and the CPU of my OPO has definitely risen above the 41-45 Celcius range that people seem to quote for this current wave of issues (and I have corroborated with my own testing). However, if I go to the recovery, the touchscreen seems to have normal responsiveness, regardless of the CPU temperature. Unless it was a built in hardware malfunction set for a specific moment, the probability of a sample, even of this size, where a series of individuals can all see the exact same lineup of hardware-based issues occurring at the same time, is too ugly for me to try and imagine calculating. But I would fare to bet it isn't high.
However, if a set of users are all changing their software as new versions and builds come out, just as the release occurs... At least then you have a series of events occurring all at the same time. Not causation, but at least there's a stronger correlation than "it's warming up so now we see the hardware defects".
The temperature range this "defect" is being attributed to can be reached quite easily in normal use in temperate areas, but even in colder climates, it should be simple to reach such temperatures if the phone isn't underclocked, as the phone is set to charge, or even if the phone is running a software update of some kind, and countless other things.
TL;DR - Don't jump to conclusions that fast, weather changes aren't a strong correlation.

hyshion said:
I'd love to see how you jumped to such a definite conclusion. I live in a warm climate to begin with, temperatures are actually lower now than they were a month and a half ago, and the CPU of my OPO has definitely risen above the 41-45 Celcius range that people seem to quote for this current wave of issues (and I have corroborated with my own testing). However, if I go to the recovery, the touchscreen seems to have normal responsiveness, regardless of the CPU temperature. Unless it was a built in hardware malfunction set for a specific moment, the probability of a sample, even of this size, where a series of individuals can all see the exact same lineup of hardware-based issues occurring at the same time, is too ugly for me to try and imagine calculating. But I would fare to bet it isn't high.
However, if a set of users are all changing their software as new versions and builds come out, just as the release occurs... At least then you have a series of events occurring all at the same time. Not causation, but at least there's a stronger correlation than "it's warming up so now we see the hardware defects".
The temperature range this "defect" is being attributed to can be reached quite easily in normal use in temperate areas, but even in colder climates, it should be simple to reach such temperatures if the phone isn't underclocked, as the phone is set to charge, or even if the phone is running a software update of some kind, and countless other things.
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The outside temperature being warm would keep the screen hot for a prolonged period of time as compared to the phone heating while charging or intense usage. However, your recovery argument is spot on! The touch works flawlessly in recovery!

goldengargoyle said:
The outside temperature being warm would keep the screen hot for a prolonged period of time as compared to the phone heating while charging or intense usage. However, your recovery argument is spot on! The touch works flawlessly in recovery!
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Well I guess it's good that it's not hardware damage.
Has anyone tried going back to android 4.x to see if it helps- if it really is software?
Surprised there hasn't been more people experiencing this issue given the number of people going to android 5.x

I have the same frustrating issue

Same here, works fine in recovery. Also had this issue arise after the first bout of touch issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoFYcFawTI4&feature=youtu.be
(clearing cache seems to alleviate that particular problem)

I think it's a software issue. I mean possibly there is hardware problems too but mine started appearing only after I installed the 5.1 update... also some things for me feel like a software issue for example when scrolling instagram back up to the top. as soon as it gets to the top it bounces back down again.. seems like software problem to me.

This is definitely a hardware issue. My phone was working perfectly. Until I went on a 5 days trip and used it for navigation, and went very hot. Up until then I was on the same CM12 rom for weeks without a problem. Since then, I've flashed many roms and the problem persists. It's definitely a hardware problem. For me it occurs whenever the phone runs a little bit hot. Practically all the time when I'm on 3G. When the phone has been in my pocket with 3G on, it's almost impossible to unlock it when I try to use it.
I contacted Oneplus a week ago and I still try to get them to RMA the phone. They've sent me all sorts of crap emails, I wiped the phone and now they ask me to shoot a video to showcase the problem. This company has the worst customer service you can find. As much as I like the pricing, I won't be bothered again with their devices. I only hope they'll RMA it otherwise I'll open it myself and try to fix the grounding issue. There is a detailed how to which also explains what's the problem.

I always had it but it was so minim that maybe couple of times a day weren't that big problem!
Just yesterday and today the issue is now intolerable! I removed the screen protector and used the stock lollipop keyboard (bcz swiftkey is kinda slower the issue was there more).
It's still very annoying and I can't type easily! I had to remove flow/swype feature to minimize it further!
Seriously considering buying another phone although I wanted to keep it for a year at least! But the hate is growing on me...

HAha exact same problem here happening since 3days.
I was on Euphoria 29/3 build. I flashed ak kernel, after reboot i couldn't type properly anymore. I was like damn, maybe its bad kernel setting or so. Didn't help.
Cleanflashed 3 roms since then, didn't solve anything. All tho touch works fine in twrp for me. So im really clueless. Swiping does seem to work better for some unknown reason to me!

The ghost swipes while typing is driving me crazy. Thinking of going back to 5.0.2 to see if that helps. Do I need to flash an old firmware to go back to a previous Android version

Android 8.1 beta now available

https://twitter.com/sarvikas/status/955753890770665472
Get it here :
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/betalabs

Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace

I have been battering it since installing and i cant make it cough, splutter or hiccup, seems all but finished to me rather than a beta.

Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.

amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .

xterminater07 said:
Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
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Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.

aoleg said:
Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.

amunarjoh said:
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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amunarjoh said:
Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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I do not have the phone, I have another phone that uses the same sensors as the Nokia 8, that's why I would like to have the system dump so I can see some information regarding cameras. Or if you can link me to the beta download that would be great. I can try to pull files and info from it.

I haven't noticed any crashes on this beta, but the battery life is definitely worse for me.
This device has no root, so pulling the system will be difficult I think.

MrBelter said:
Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.

If you set animations to 0.5x you can notice the speed improvement more. Though could be placebo. Before 0.5x was more choppy and 8.1 feels smoother.

8.1 is definitely smoother!
The double tap on recent apps (for fast change) are waaay faster and without a single hiccup for me.
Battery have better stand-by with wifi and auto sync on.
Less than 1% per hour! (almost two hours to drain 1%)
Sent from my Nokia 8!

aoleg said:
That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
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Wow chill your beans, i am fully aware what beta testing is and i certainly do not need preaching to about it by the likes of you.
I was about to report that the standby times on my phone are also reduced but i don't think i'll bother now, you seem to have it all covered with your comprehensive report.

I observe that when i take my phone out of my pocket it automatically unlocks the screen lock( i put my finger on fp sensor when i take my phone out of my pocket). After that i checked if there is a problem with the light sensor, so i covered it so it couldn't get any light but still unlocked the phone when i used my fp to unlock it. Do you guys have that problem? Also to note that when i am making phone calls light sensor works like normal.
Sent from my TA-1012 using XDA Labs

USB tethering also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots.

still no ambient display......

Also the pop up when i want to disable the mobile data is frustrating. Is there a way to disable this?
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bluetooht not working
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit

hennieh said:
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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I'm using Bluetooth with two different car kits, speaker and headphones. No issues at all. Actually it seems to be using less power than on 8.0.
On 8.0 sometimes I couldn't connect to car kit. On 8.1 this issue seems to be gone.

This is the kind of battery life i am getting now after a few days running the beta, i still think standby times are worse but not shockingly so.

Looking for an OREO replacement

My Galaxy S7 (AT&T SM-G930A) was recently updated to Android 8 (Oreo). Since the update I am having issues with the volume. I plug my phone into a stereo receiver at work and we listen all day 12 - 14 hours. Nougat would often reset my volume after about 10 hrs of playing and display a warning about the dangers of listening to high volumes for extended periods. Since updating to Oreo the volume will reset randomly. It will not display a warning or reason it just resets. At first I thought it was because I was receiving a call or text or email but the random volume resets do not correspond to any notifications. This happens three or four times a day since the update.
The volume issues are just a minor issue compared to my battery life. I have a 33% reduction to battery life. Prior to the update I would plug in (to the stereo) my phone in the morning and after a 12 hr shift I would have about 20-25% left. Since the update I plug in (to the stereo) and after about 10 hrs I'm at 10-15%. I have not installed any new apps since the Oreo update and there are no other causes for the change in battery life.
The other main issue I have is speed. The phone is noticeably slower. Apps take longer to open and there is definite lag. Earlier today it took me a little over three minutes to pull up my navigation app and get directions. Prior to the update it would take around 30 seconds.
Here are my questions.
1) CAN I INSTALL A CUSTOM ROM? I had Cyanogenmod on my S4 and really liked it over the stock ROM. I think I would like to give Lineage a try but I still can't get a definite answer as to whether or not this can be done. Obviously I have the Snapdragon processor. Most of the information I'm finding is telling me that we can't install a custom recovery on Snapdragons yet, which means, no custom ROM. If I am wrong please provide me some current links.
2) If I can't install a custom recovery/ROM; CAN I REVERT TO NOUGAT OR MARSHMALLOW?
3) If I can't revert; WHAT CAN I DO THAT WILL PROVIDE ME WITH MORE IMMEDIATE SATISFACTION THAN WAITING FOR AT&T OR SAMSUNG TO FIX THIS CRAP?

1) No, US model S7's have locked bootloaders preventing custom firmware/recovery. You'll need an international G930F/FD to do anything custom.
2) No, the bootloader being locked prevents OS downgrades. You can only sidestep or upgrade.
3) Unfortunately your hands are pretty tied. All I can suggest is backup anything important and do a full clean flash, which may resolve some of the anomalies.

Beanvee7 said:
1) No, US model S7's have locked bootloaders preventing custom firmware/recovery. You'll need an international G930F/FD to do anything custom.
2) No, the bootloader being locked prevents OS downgrades. You can only sidestep or upgrade.
3) Unfortunately your hands are pretty tied. All I can suggest is backup anything important and do a full clean flash, which may resolve some of the anomalies.
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Beanvee,
Thanks for the quick and concise reply. I just wanted to offer a belated but brief follow up. I backed up and restored Android. It took a little while to get everything back where I wanted it but most things seem better now. The only complaint I have at this time is that my streaming music app(s) seem to drop the connections too often when running on WiFi. If I turn off the WiFi and use mobile data there aren't any issues. The WiFi issues happen at home, at work and when connected at my mother's home and friend's homes. I rarely have mobile data over-runs so it isn't an issue per se; it just bugs me a little.
Once again, thanks for the help.

I'm afraid that's something I've not experienced and wouldn't know where to look. Best I can think of is check battery saving options, and under WiFi > advanced, make sure Keep WiFi on during sleep is set to Always

Everything that bothers me/what I love about the Mix 3

Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother

agree on AI button - hate it! especially in phone case it gets triggered too often just holding the phone
any way to mute that button or change it to another usage? I think I can only deactivate the google assistant itself, but it keeps reacting starting it up and asking to enable the assistant again

steffenmix3 said:
agree on AI button - hate it! especially in phone case it gets triggered too often just holding the phone
any way to mute that button or change it to another usage? I think I can only deactivate the google assistant itself, but it keeps reacting starting it up and asking to enable the assistant again
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There is a magisk module to remapped the button

dondrexer said:
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
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Totally agree with the AI button thing, I click it ALL the time by accident it's super annoying. There is a thread on XDA for changing the functionality and a Magisk module as well. The Magisk module is for the Mi 9 but may work for the Mix 3 as well, not entirely sure on that. I haven't experienced the Bluetooth issues though, and I have the global hardware (6 GB RAM 128 GB ROM). My Bluetooth works flawlessly. The slider does feel a bit inconsistent, not sure how/why but I rarely use the selfie camera anyway so it's not a big deal for me. I feel like the battery is pretty average for a smartphone, nothing great but not bad. I can usually get through a day with it and its better than my V30 so that's a plus. Hope you're still enjoying the phone overall!
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There is a magisk module to remapped the button
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Are you talking about the one for the Mi 9? It works fine for the Mix 3 too?

Rockmadeofrock said:
Totally agree with the AI button thing, I click it ALL the time by accident it's super annoying. I've been looking for a way to disable it entirely but haven't found anything I understand yet. I'll keep you updated on that. I haven't experienced the Bluetooth issues though, and I have the global hardware (6 GB RAM 128 GB ROM). My Bluetooth works flawlessly. The slider does feel a bit inconsistent, not sure how/why but I rarely use the selfie camera anyway so it's not a big deal for me. I feel like the battery is pretty average for a smartphone, nothing great but not bad. I can usually get through a day with it and its better than my V30 so that's a plus. Hope you're still enjoying the phone overall!
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Are you talking about the one for the Mi 9? It works fine for the Mix 3 too?
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Yeah it should be check on magisk it's there it's called Xiaomi AI remapper

raven213 said:
Yeah it should be check on magisk it's there it's called Xiaomi AI remapper
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Awesome thanks!

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Awesome thanks!
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No problem

Personally, I don't have any issues with the thickness and actually, it makes it easier to hold with my large hands. I have had thinner devices, like the LG V30, S9 Plus, and Note 9, but they just feel like toys by comparison.
The AI button isn't an issue for me. I am not rooted but I have used ADB to uninstall Xiaomi's when I was using the Chinese ROM my device came with and used ADB to remove Google Assistant when I installed the Global Stable ROM. I have no issues finishing a day of very heavy use with about 10% battery left using both SIM slots simultaneously. On average, I finish my day with about 30% left, but I do travel often, so those days, I spend more time watching YouTube on planes and texting more than anything else. I have used ADB though to remove a lot of bloat that can run and waste battery life.
I don't use Bluetooth devices at all so i can't really comment on how well or how well it doesn't work on the Mi MIX 3. However, many devices do experience Bluetooth issues for various reasons. Firmware updates for cars or the Bluetooth in the device itself is usually the more common answer. No manufacturer is exempt from these issues.
I definitely agree with the earpiece. Because it is technically set in the bottom part of the device, it has to send sound straight through the other to get to your ear. If your ear is right over the hole where this comes through, it's fine, but it does take some getting used to and makes it hard to rest the phone on your shoulder and still talk on it.
I haven't had any issues with the slider. From the day I got my device, the slider has been stiff and robust. I often use it just fiddling around as well. The magnets pull and push feel just as strong as the day I opened the box. I also haven't noticed the screen being on when it is in my pocket and have never had my screen on when removing it from my pocket. I do have double tap to wake and lift to turn on the screen disabled though. Perhaps it is one or a combination of both of those settings causing that issue for you.

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jcsww said:
Personally, I don't have any issues with the thickness and actually, it makes it easier to hold with my large hands. I have had thinner devices, like the LG V30, S9 Plus, and Note 9, but they just feel like toys by comparison.
The AI button isn't an issue for me. I am not rooted but I have used ADB to uninstall Xiaomi's when I was using the Chinese ROM my device came with and used ADB to remove Google Assistant when I installed the Global Stable ROM. I have no issues finishing a day of very heavy use with about 10% battery left using both SIM slots simultaneously. On average, I finish my day with about 30% left, but I do travel often, so those days, I spend more time watching YouTube on planes and texting more than anything else. I have used ADB though to remove a lot of bloat that can run and waste battery life.
I don't use Bluetooth devices at all so i can't really comment on how well or how well it doesn't work on the Mi MIX 3. However, many devices do experience Bluetooth issues for various reasons. Firmware updates for cars or the Bluetooth in the device itself is usually the more common answer. No manufacturer is exempt from these issues.
I definitely agree with the earpiece. Because it is technically set in the bottom part of the device, it has to send sound straight through the other to get to your ear. If your ear is right over the hole where this comes through, it's fine, but it does take some getting used to and makes it hard to rest the phone on your shoulder and still talk on it.
I haven't had any issues with the slider. From the day I got my device, the slider has been stiff and robust. I often use it just fiddling around as well. The magnets pull and push feel just as strong as the day I opened the box. I also haven't noticed the screen being on when it is in my pocket and have never had my screen on when removing it from my pocket. I do have double tap to wake and lift to turn on the screen disabled though. Perhaps it is one or a combination of both of those settings causing that issue for you.
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I will add one more issue regarding MIUI - can't add trusted device (snartwatch) and trusted places

georgito said:
I will add one more issue regarding MIUI - can't add trusted device (snartwatch) and trusted places
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I have some issues with MIUI as well. Would they stop me from buying another Xiaomi device? No.
Tue stock apps suck! The default Messaging app doesn't support rotation and doesn't display group texts under those in that. It splits tue group texts under their individual threads. Changing Messaging apps leaves me with notification sounds that can't be changed because Xiaomi developers are stuck in the years of KitKat with how their sounds work!
The change to not being able to lock the bootloader when switching ROM's is probably the worst I can think of. I get the reasoning behind the change but I bought thebChinese model as the Chinese model because I wanted more RAM.
MIUI settings are also lacking when it comes to restricting roaming from one SIM but not the other.
My T-Mobile plan works in multiple countries and I want that to roam when outside of the US. My Telus SIM though is insane for roaming so I don't want that SIM roaming but I want that SIM left enabled to see who calls and texts.
All that said and a few more gripes. The Mi MIX 3 is still a superb device and one I don't regret buying.

Notifications are awful. I have yet to have a notification display on the lock screen. When I do receive new mail or an SMS message, it can take up to 40 minutes before notifying me if the screen is off. If the screen is on I get the notification within a couple of minutes but that is only if the screen is on. Screen on means the screen is being displayed and the lock screen has been dismissed. It does not mean that the always on ambient display is on. That is just as bad as the display being completely off which makes me think that the problem lies with the phone being locked and is not just an over aggressive doze problem. I am using the notification repeater app and I also use Auto-notifications with its notification categories feature. Both of those have helped a little bit but it is rare that I get a notification within 10 minutes of my phone receiving e-mail or text messages when the screen is off (10 minutes is actually good).
There is also an issue with Android calendars. These aren't the calendars attached to your gmail account and they are not local calendars as well. Android calendars are usually created by 3rd party apps that offer holiday calendars for every country, sports scedules for every NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL and NCAA teams (motor sports and European football in some apps). The apps that also create TV listing calendars create their calendars as Android calendars. Any calendar app for Android can display them and you can choose to display or hide them individually within any android based calendar apps. Not with MIUI though. I can see them in the settings of any calendar app I install and can set them as hidden or viewable but they will not display as a calendar in any calendar app. MIUI has a few nice features but it is not worth the lack of timely notifications and it would also be nice if I could actually display all of my calendars. I have gone the custom GSI route and there were issues with every GSI based ROM I tried. I could install every GSI ROM I tried. I could even install Resurrection Remix GSI without a problem (repairing and resizing the system partition so you can install GAPPS is easier than most people realize. I kept running into deal breaker isssues with each GSI ROM though. I don't remember what the issue was with BlissROM but I do remember taking half a day to try and find a work around to no avail. Pixel Dust had an annoying random reboot problem and Resurrection Remix seemed to work just fine until it randomly would display a Setting up phone message after logging into the phone at a very random time. It would sometimes do this somewhere with the first few hours of use but could go as long as a day and a half before doing it. The only way to get past that screen was to get into the phones settings and clear out your fingerprints and set the phone to not require any type of password, pin or pattern. Once you clear those out the phone will continue to boot. If you want security you will need to setup security again and you will find yourself doing this all over again anywhere within the next hour too 24 hours. This is a known issue and there is a thread about it. It is a ROM issue because it is doing it on many different brands of phones. It is doing it very randomly though and the developers of the ROM have not had it happen to one of their phones yet. It makes the ROM unusable for those of us that are running into it though which is why I am back to MIUI (eu version) and in my opinion, MIUI ruins what would be a very good phone experience.

The pocket detection is occasionally driving me crazy, it's an issue on the PE rom too. The settings pull-down is active even on the lock screen, so while it's in my pocket it will sometimes turn wifi/bluetooth on or off, etc. I'm hoping the Cyanogen rom will eventually improve this. Only seems to be a problem for me when the radio app is automatically activated when I turn on my bluetooth headset.
Bluetooth connection also causes me some minor irritation. It won't auto-connect to the A2DP unit in my car, although it does connect to the phone module. I've been looking through the configuration files trying to find something to tweak this, but the structure of the current roms makes finding anything useful almost impossible.
AI button, also a hassle, but it can't be that bad because I haven't bothered to install the Magisk module to remap it yet. I much prefer a button to call up the assistant rather than "ok google".
Battery, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I guess it depends on what device you came from. This device is far and away the most battery frugal I've ever had, by a long shot, and the speed of the wireless charging makes it even better.
I never have a problem with the earpiece, but I do remove the lint from it fairly regularly, maybe that's the problem? If anything, the sound on calls I would rate as way better than previous phones.
My slider mechanism is also variable. Sometimes it's perfect, other times it's hard to get it to slide, but I think it's more to do with the friction from my fingers than the mechanism itself, sometimes the surfaces feel super-slippery! Give me cheap, rubberized plastic and a removable rear cover and battery every day of the week!

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Battery, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I guess it depends on what device you came from. This device is far and away the most battery frugal I've ever had, by a long shot, and the speed of the wireless charging makes it even better.
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I guess you are right there with the point from where you came from. In comparison to my "old" Huawei Mathe 10 Pro the Battery is bad. But on the other Hand the Mix3 has (fast) Wireless Charging :good:
I checked the last weeks my Battery stats and usage. There was nothing uncommon. To me it is not satisfying, especially when I am on a trip (like last week) I barely made it back to the Hotel with a few % left.
Just to get this into Context (for most of you tl;dr):
Listening to music for 2 hrs
Navigation for public transport - also active for 2 hrs
checking Mails - hard to measure
searching for a place for diner - 20 min
checking social media... every minute is too much
In my opinion this is an average usage and therefore the battery is considered bad to me.

dondrexer said:
I guess you are right there with the point from where you came from. In comparison to my "old" Huawei Mathe 10 Pro the Battery is bad. But on the other Hand the Mix3 has (fast) Wireless Charging :good:
I checked the last weeks my Battery stats and usage. There was nothing uncommon. To me it is not satisfying, especially when I am on a trip (like last week) I barely made it back to the Hotel with a few % left.
Just to get this into Context (for most of you tl;dr):
Listening to music for 2 hrs
Navigation for public transport - also active for 2 hrs
checking Mails - hard to measure
searching for a place for diner - 20 min
checking social media... every minute is too much
In my opinion this is an average usage and therefore the battery is considered bad to me.
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I think you must have a problem somewhere. Which software are you running?

georgito said:
I will add one more issue regarding MIUI - can't add trusted device (snartwatch) and trusted places
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That's the deal breaker, had to go custom ROM route, no smart lock is no good.

dondrexer said:
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
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im very sure the problem with the slider is because of your case, remove ur case and try again move the slider

invisiblewave said:
I think you must have a problem somewhere. Which software are you running?
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Latest weekly. MIUI 10 / 9.5.17 / (weekly)

juninhoak said:
im very sure the problem with the slider is because of your case, remove ur case and try again move the slider
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Appreciate that tipp, but I don't use any case. (Why buy a pretty phone, when you put plastic around it?!) *screen is crying silently in fear :crying: *

Love the phone. The screen, everything. Running Lineage at the moment.
Really hate:
Notifications on MIUI. Seriously.
The process around flashing roms. Vendor image, dirty flash doesnt work (at least for me), switching roms difficult. Just very, very tiresome.
Would I buy it again? Definitely.

dondrexer said:
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
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Mine is running rooted crDroid ROM, which allows me to address most of these points.
Thickness: this is a tradeoff for sliding display.
Battery: crDroid is very good battery-wise, but also installed magic module LKT and get easily 1.5 days of heavy use now
AI button: Used magisk module and button remapper APK to remap mine, for me single press does nothing (because like you i press it accidentally all the time) double press toggles flashlight and long press launches google assistant.
Pocket detection: You can enable this in crDroid settings
Holding phone to ear: I don't have this problem
Slider: My slider took a bit of wearing in. That might sound strange but it was a bit squeeky and felt weaker than it should be to begin with but after a few months of use it now feels great.
Bluetooth delays: No idea, never use bluetooth. Sorry about that one.

Bluetooth signal worsened after Android 12 update

I usually always laughed at my friend, because his iPhone 12 would make the music go choppy on the Bluetooth speakers whenever he went to the bathroom at the office only just next door, while my awesome OnePlus could play even if I was in another room in another floor, it didn't even matter how far away i was, the signal still went through and amazed us all.
But gosh darn it, after the android 12 update.. even if my phone is just in my pocket - if i point it away from the speakers, the music gets Choppy.. it's an obvious massive downgrade from the signal strength i had before and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this since updading?

Darkbepo said:
I usually always laughed at my friend, because his iPhone 12 would make the music go choppy on the Bluetooth speakers whenever he went to the bathroom at the office only just next door, while my awesome OnePlus could play even if I was in another room in another floor, it didn't even matter how far away i was, the signal still went through and amazed us all.
But gosh darn it, after the android 12 update.. even if my phone is just in my pocket - if i point it away from the speakers, the music gets Choppy.. it's an obvious massive downgrade from the signal strength i had before and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this since updading?
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Did you do a factory reset? This maybe needed.
Did you at least do a network reset?
Many Samsung users rolled back to 11 from 12 so it's not just OP devices.
Personally I refuse to go beyond Android 10 with 9 being my preferred OS. This has more to do with resource sucking scoped storage though. Anything from 9 up is relatively secure. 12 especially is too secure

blackhawk said:
Did you do a factory reset? This maybe needed.
Did you at least do a network reset?
Many Samsung users rolled back to 11 from 12 so it's not just OP devices.
Personally I refuse to go beyond Android 10 with 9 being my preferred OS. This has more to do with resource sucking scoped storage though. Anything from 9 up is relatively secure. 12 especially is too secure
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Ugh, factory resetting is such a hassle
I mean if it fixes it I guess I'll have to do it, but I'd hoped it was as a last resort. I haven't tried a network reset, I don't think I've ever even done that before, so I'll just look into how that's done first and try that out

A network reset sadly didn't work, on the bright side my speakers finally plays Christmas music the way its intended - not playing

Darkbepo said:
Ugh, factory resetting is such a hassle
I mean if it fixes it I guess I'll have to do it, but I'd hoped it was as a last resort. I haven't tried a network reset, I don't think I've ever even done that before, so I'll just look into how that's done first and try that out
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One reason I don't upgrade especially if the current platform is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Little to gain and a lot to lose.
A network reset is pretty painless just need to reinitalize the bt devices and wifi ones if you use them. I'll use it from time to time if having connection issues.
If you can clear the system cache on that device do so. That can fix a lot of bizarre behavior issues especially if you made major software or firmware changes. Many times a factory reset is the best option if you did a major OTA firmware upgrade. Last thing you want is a boot loop; take any sign of system instability seriously. Make sure all critical data is fully and redundantly backed up as it should always be.
Play with it. A rollback to 11 may be possible as well; not sure about that variant.

This has nothing to do with old files requiring a factory reset. Something has definitely changed in the firmware for OxygenOS 12. I now can't be more than 4 meters apart from my device without the audio getting choppy - it's crazy.

Sandai64 said:
This has nothing to do with old files requiring a factory reset. Something has definitely changed in the firmware for OxygenOS 12. I now can't be more than 4 meters apart from my device without the audio getting choppy - it's crazy.
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So you tried a factory reset?

blackhawk said:
So you tried a factory reset?
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Of course I did. This has _nothing_ to do with storage or stale data. It's something they changed in the firmware when moving from Android 11 to 12.

Sandai64 said:
Of course I did. This has _nothing_ to do with storage or stale data. It's something they changed in the firmware when moving from Android 11 to 12.
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Well a rollback is your only option then or wait until it's patched unless you can track it down. A lot of Samsung users rolled back from 12 to 11 because of issues.
This an example of one of reasons why I never update firmware that's fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Zero trust in Gookill. They can and have screwed up good products in the past; it's their nature.

ARGH I've been using pixelexperience for months now since I posted this thread, but there were just so many small annoyances so I decided to come back to stock. I had briefly forgotten about all these friggen BT issues so I just installed the newest version again. ARGH XD
Yeah the BT thing is just really annoying.

Same here since Update to Android 12. The Bluetooth Range thing and den slower charging speed (tested with the Android app "Ampere") was very annoying.
None of the known solutions work. The only thing I could do now was go back to Android 11.
Back the Android 11 and bluetooth Range and charging speed ist fine again. Maybe a custom Rom like Lineage 20 or pixel experinece 13 works but in dont want to try, because the installation and the subsequent change back to stock is very time-consuming.
Did somebody test the Android 13 custom roms in view of the two problems??
Greetings

klaus08 said:
Same here since Update to Android 12. The Bluetooth Range thing and den slower charging speed (tested with the Android app "Ampere") was very annoying.
None of the known solutions work. The only thing I could do now was go back to Android 11.
Back the Android 11 and bluetooth Range and charging speed ist fine again. Maybe a custom Rom like Lineage 20 or pixel experinece 13 works but in dont want to try, because the installation and the subsequent change back to stock is very time-consuming.
Did somebody test the Android 13 custom roms in view of the two problems??
Greetings
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I tried Pixel Experience 12 & 13 on my Nord.
It feels alright most of the time but there's the occasional annoyances. For instance :
- When rebooting my Nord, the system will ignore the current alert slider position (e.g. I'll shutdown my phone on "silent", move the slider to "ring" when the phone is off, and the phone will stay in "silent" when booting up while the slider is in the "ring" position.
- There's no clear visual feedback as to what mode you're in when moving the alert slider (e.g. the little bubble appearing momentarily on the right side of the screen)
- The camera feels janky for some reason. I did not research this area further unfortunately.
- Sometimes, my Nord will not be able to transfer files to my computer, unless I enable "USB Debugging", which is awful.
I did not notice any unusual behavior regarding charging, but those issues are what you get when only one or two people are working on supporting your device rather than its manufacturer.

How about the Bluetooth Problem in Pixel experience 13?

klaus08 said:
How about the Bluetooth Problem in Pixel experience 13?
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I feel like it's a mix between OOS 11 and 12. It's not as bad; but still not great. I don't have any detailed test results, sorry.
Though keep in mind that I'm talking from memory as I had rolled back to OOS 11.

OK, np... I'll stay at Android 11. I dont understand why oneplus dont fixed that Problem. In the oneplus Community Forum many Users Report that Problem..
It feels Like "you are unhappy with your Phone, buy a new one"....
Next Phone no more oneplus.