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Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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This is the only Nougat your going to get
And sure a factory reset is always good after a major OS update
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
salihss said:
If you care about battery life you shouldn't upgrade imo
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I can confirm my battery life took a dive. I am now *charging* my phone when I drive home from work. I didn't need to do this before with MM. Sadly Huawei screwed up the battery life and no solution in sight.
Here are some likes and dislikes on it. I do suggest you read before you update. Once updated, rollback would require you to reset.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/help/honor-8-nougat-emui-likes-unlikes-t3556351
Hello there!
So from today (After much waiting and checking the updater app) I can update to EMUI 5 (B360)!
But I'm a little bit unsure if I should update because many people have reported issues with it, will just factory reseting the phone after updating to EMUI 5 fix the problems or should I stay on Marshmallow until full Nougat comes out?
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I personally can´t recommend it. Battery for me isn´t bad but I´m having a ridiculous amount of graphical glitches, bugs with notifications and sometimes apps like camera, can´t be opened on the lockscreen cause some lockscreen elements overlay and won´t allow interaction with the camera app until I restarted my phone.
Seems like people having all kinds of different issues, that others don´t have.
Really weird.
I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
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Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
johnhux7 said:
I have been running EMUI 5 since the UK beta ( about 3 months)
I have only ever put official OTA updates on my phone.
I'm having none of the issues with my phone.
No glitches, no lags no problems.
My battery life is excellent it lasts from 8am through to 7am the following morning and normally has about 30℅ left when I charge it each morning between 7-8am
I use my phone heavily all day and watch TV on it in bed every night for at least 2 hours
I'm very pleased with my honor 8
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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Updated, and well the battery is draining faster than usual but it drains about the same speed that it drained when I first got the phone.... But I believe that the battery will be back to normal in a couple of days.
AllieKitty said:
Battery is a tiny bit worse, but it fixed the NFC issues, so definitely worth upgrading (no more red lights 1/3 of the time rendering it useless on Transport for London services, and it can read a passport now, and an HK Octopus card consistently...).
A factory reset was needed after upgrading to fix some weird behaviour.
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I have updated and I must say, I really love the new features and that they fixed some of the bugs
Only glitch I've found is with the gyroscope. Only had the phone a day so not sure what it was like before the update, but this video suggests it only happened after updating;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TBFz-i_ruXc
Whether anyone else has had this problem?
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in emui4.1
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Which issues you mean?
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I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
bala1701 said:
I heard there was a gyroscope issue. And what about performance and battery. Is there slowness in overall user experience?
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All are good
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
Zero issues in B389, battery a tad better the MM versions. Never charge device more than 1x/day, sometimes 1x/1.5 day.
Dominikrod said:
If you're a heavy user and value battery efficiency more than having the latest Android firmware, then don't upgrade. I went back to EMUI4. 1 a week ago due to excessive battery drainage in EMUI5.
I used Nougat since it became available for the H8 and battery life was less than in MM and even worst with the latest update for the US version (B385). My screen on time went from 6 hours to barely 4 hours.
Also having to recharge my phone 3 to 4 times in a day was not worth it staying with EMUI5. I even rebranded my phone to use the L19's firmware (B389) but it was the same story with the battery in addition to loosing VoLTE and band 12.
But don't get me wrong, I do like the interface updates and the improvements in performance in Nougat. It's just that for me battery is more important.
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Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
Rommco05 said:
Performance is higher how on Marshmallow and with battery I don't have any problems, this can be related which model you have and which firmware you are able to install. Gyroscope issue... I don't know
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Mine is Indian version
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
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Bro b330 update i got 6hr+
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You mean nougat update for FRDL02 has no battery issues? But at top of this thread you also mentioned this :
"Emui 5 is far better than emui 4.1,but the battery backup is soon good in EMUI4.1"
Im confused..
bala1701 said:
Thanks. Mine is Indian version. I'm a heavy user and battery life does matter to me. I was so tempted to press the update button but pulling myself out of it. I already get only 4.5 to 5 hours on heavy usage. So will skip the upgrade then. Thanks again!
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Use i am also saying that emui 4.1 sucks less compared to 5.0 . Emui 4.1 is the best for battery but we want the new version of Android should have to leave the old one
Also in emui 5.0:
In lockscreen clean up disable apps to run in back ground . U can also get 6+
Rommco05 said:
Anyway if compare look betwen EMUI4 and EMUI5, emui5 is much better, looks a bit more stable and fast. Google security patches is newest how on emui4 and in future if want upgrade to Andoid O (hopefuly we got it) u will must anyway upgrade first to emui5 Nougat. Emui5 have lot of settings which can help improve battery life
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I can't get security patches on MM Emui 4 unless I upgrade and that's sad. But the performance with EMUI 4 on H8 is truly amazing. I have never had a single instance of lag or slowness in the two months I have had this. Truly flagship device. Buttery smooth and I'm thoroughly enjpyong this beauty. I'm afraid this will not be the case once I upgrade. So let me stay with this till we get the news on Android O.
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? Are there still issues? Is so what are they?
Can somebody provide a honest opinion. Because the current EMUI4.1 is so good and i don't want to regret the upgrade. Thanks.
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There are still some minor bugs, which you will never notice (maybe). But I would like to say its 96% stable. :fingers-crossed:
bala1701 said:
Guys,
I haven't updated my H8 to Nougat because of the bugs with EMUI5.
Are the issues fixed? ...
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Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
Cool_Man99 said:
Personally, I wouldn't touch the EMUI 5 and Android 7 combination.
I did the upgrade long time ago (I think it was B360, and it was done automatically; I just had to touch a button that said "Upgrade", and kept prompting me for two weeks).
Battery had to be recharged every 2 hours, even without using the phone. Temperature was so hot that I had to put the phone in the refrigerator, honestly.
Many essential application were totally messed up or became useless, including the camera software.
Following a Huawie customer service rep in live communication to go back to EMUI 4.1 and Android 6 resulted in bricking the phone.
I sent it to their service center in Texas (per their instructions).
They found that the excessive heat had caused plenty of internal component deterioration, so it was useless to unbrick it and send it back.
Since it was still under warranty, they sent me a new one (with EMUI 4.1 and Android 6).
Service was fast and excellent.
I became a happy camper again.
EMUI 5 is most likely better than 4.1, but the problem of installing it is that you must install Android 7 as well.
I'm sure Android 7 is better and more advanced than 6, but it is not optimized for the Honor 8.
I would NOT touch that combination of EMUI 5 and Android 7 on the Honor 8 with a 100 foot pole!!
From what I understand, EMUI 5.1 is released.
That is my experience, and it is up to you if you decide to upgrade.
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bala1701 said:
Thanks. I have made up my mind to stay with EMUI4.1 based on the inputs on this thread and yours add up to the list. When it comes to Android I always believe a phone works best only out of the box and any upgrade takes it a step back. I have had this experience with a lot of devices. So i think it's best to stay with the version that comes out of the box if you want to really enjoy the device. Because this is the version that was tested/ optimized/advertised by the manufacturer. Just my opinion... :good:
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Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
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Maybe it happened with just you. You cannot blame EMUI for the trouble. Yeah I admit that it had some bugs at the beginning. Almost all the Android Phones get them at the beginning, even iOS. An year or two ago I had Galaxy Grand Prime and it didn't boot up after it's lollipop/marshmallow update. So I sent it to Samsung and they fixed it. @Cool_Man99 same as they fixed yours. And it's totally functional even today. Well my mom is using that now. And yeah maybe you faced the problem with your device unnecessary heating, so did I. My device also used to get hot while listening to music at night or maybe while i am in school. Also i was not able to install any 3rd party apps in it. As much as I remember they released some patches and I swear now there are no issues that I am facing. Ooh yeah, I never had the battery draining issue, ever. You can ask other people on the forum too if all of them faced issues like you. ?
@bala1701 maybe you did set your mind to stay but you can just give EMUI 5 a try. Then if you think you are having any issues you can just roolback. It's not that hard.
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Yes sure I will definitely give it a try in the future. But as of now I am at peace with EMUI4.1/MM
@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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@Saeem
No it didn't happen just to me.
Lots of people were having similar problems, and that was all over the Internet, including here at XDA and at Huawie forums and Support sites.
Huawie back then created a page with downloadable packages and instructions to switch back to EMUI 4.1 / Android 6.
As I had mentioned before, the battery drain and the excessive overheat were happening even without the phone being used at all, and with the screen turned off.
It wasn't even possible to turn the phone off, or to restart it. These soft buttons were messed up and not functioning properly.
Huawie did not fix the phone, as I had indicated. They replaced it with a new one. It was not fixable..
Glad you and your mom are having no issues.
You might be able to experiment with new software/firmware releases, but many people use the phone for business purposes, and other critical issues. In such uses they cannot afford to be experimenting with buggy Beta releases of software.
Such people use their phone to do things other than play games, text a classmate, or chat with their moms.
You will understand what I mean someday down the road.
Thanks for your input, though.
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I didn't know that. But thanks :good:
I started noticing recently serious stutter and slowdowns in the apps and GUI fluidity. This can happen now and then, like every few days, and goes away after a reboot. Why would this start to happen only now? I had this phone since the last year. I suspect the recent firmware updates have brought this issue. Incidentally, some people complained about such issues with the new Honor 7X too.
yes, my honor 6x us getting hang sometimes but it doesn't happens before the b360 update
Same here started feeling the device lagging and stuttering after the latest updates
It's been my experience with Android updates that sometimes a major update can ruin a phone unless you reset it to factory settings (deleting all your data and settings of course). This actually worked on my Nexus 5X after the Oreo update which seemed to effectively ruin the phone until a hard reset. Of course, I don't necessarily suggest that we do this on the Honor 6X yet. Lets wait and see what happens. Perhaps newer firmware will fix this. I also notice that this often starts to happen when I open something like 20 tabs in Chrome. *Mental note to self: Don't open 20 or more tabs in Chrome*
Akopps said:
It's been my experience with Android updates that sometimes a major update can ruin a phone unless you reset it to factory settings (deleting all your data and settings of course). This actually worked on my Nexus 5X after the Oreo update which seemed to effectively ruin the phone until a hard reset. Of course, I don't necessarily suggest that we do this on the Honor 6X yet. Lets wait and see what happens. Perhaps newer firmware will fix this. I also notice that this often starts to happen when I open something like 20 tabs in Chrome. *Mental note to self: Don't open 20 or more tabs in Chrome*
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Chrome uses even more memory after their latest update
Akopps said:
I started noticing recently serious stutter and slowdowns in the apps and GUI fluidity. This can happen now and then, like every few days, and goes away after a reboot. Why would this start to happen only now? I had this phone since the last year. I suspect the recent firmware updates have brought this issue. Incidentally, some people complained about such issues with the new Honor 7X too.
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Guys same thing is happening to me for last couple of days. Anyone has any idea for a fix? I am not rooted. only reason I am not rooting is because I dont want to lose data and settings
UPDATE: Official Pie now rolling out on Korean variants (F800K/L/S)
Good news LG V20 owners, it looks like your handset will receive Android 9.0 Pie in the not too distant future after all. While the South Korean company pushed the roll-out of Pie to its successor from Q2 to Q3, there is promise of the V20 receiving its last OS update this quarter with LG reportedly testing a beta build internally.
The LG V20 has had a checkered history of OS updates. The first smartphone to ship with Android 7.0 Nougat has only received one major OS update, with it still being stuck on Android 8.0 Oreo. It took LG until October last year to roll-out Oreo to some V20 variants like the H990DS, with the company then announcing it planned on ending software support the device.
LG subseuently u-turned and promised to deliver Android 9.0 Pie in Q3 2019. The V35 and V40 ThinQ have since received Pie, with the roll-out for the V30 slipping from Q2 to Q3. Beta builds for the V30 and G6 have now appeared online, demonstrating that LG is actively testing Pie for these devices, with people being able to flash these early builds to their handsets if they are feeling brave.
My LG Phones reports that LG is doing the same with the V20, specifically for the South Korean model (F800L). The beta build, called LGF800LAT-V27b-IOT-KR-JUL-08-2019+0, is unavailable to download though, with My LG Phones claiming that it is "not fully optimized". Naturally, this comes as no surprise considering that it is a beta build.
Unfortunately, there is still no word on when LG plans to release a stable Android 9.0 Pie build for the V20 this quarter. While we cannot verify the claims of My LG Phones, the website is often accurate and one of the first to report on LG issuing software updates for its smartphones. Expect LG to stagger the roll-out of Android Pie 9.0 though, with South Korean devices likely receiving the OS update a few weeks or months sooner than other variants. Still, it is promising to hear that LG is actively testing Android 9.0 Pie for the V20, seemingly alongside the V30 and G6. Fingers crossed, V20 owners!
Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-9-0-Pie-is-on-the-horizon-for-the-LG-V20.427936.0.html
I'll believe it when i see it.. i'm still on stock 8.0.0... I have added a 4000Mah battery so i can last 2 days with everything on now but still on 8.0.0
drchip42 said:
I'll believe it when i see it.. i'm still on stock 8.0.0... I have added a 4000Mah battery so i can last 2 days with everything on now but still on 8.0.0
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Same...
But there was a leaked beta pie firmware that is currently for the Korean variant, and it's ongoing
So there's still a big chance to receive one
And if there isn't well at least we have LOS 16 as our option for pie
After having run my v20 stock for years I took the plunge and went lineage 16. The difference between stock and lineage is night and day. While it's great for people unable or unwilling to go the custom rom path, I don't intend to go back to the bloated mess that is "stock" on my H918
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After having run my v20 stock for years I took the plunge and went lineage 16. The difference between stock and lineage is night and day. While it's great for people unable or unwilling to go the custom rom path, I don't intend to go back to the bloated mess that is "stock" on my H918
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Lineage is so boring imo. no stock camera and I'm also not sure if the DAC is working properly.. Was on lineage two hours and immediately flashed back the stock Rom. But I have to admit that the LG is only my second device now. But this time I didn't flash a custom kernel and no root. Just stock.. It is so much better now. But S9+ is my daily driver now.
That's the beauty of Android we can have the same device and completely different experiences... Now if there was a miui Rom to play with I would be trying that out.
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Lineage is so boring imo. no stock camera and I'm also not sure if the DAC is working properly.. Was on lineage two hours and immediately flashed back the stock Rom. But I have to admit that the LG is only my second device now. But this time I didn't flash a custom kernel and no root. Just stock.. It is so much better now. But S9+ is my daily driver now.
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The DAC works on LOS as long as you flash Gamma kernel, although I've heard it's enabled in the stock kernel. I use Gamma + V4A and it's amazing.
My experience with Lineage... or rather Resurrection Remix has been less then stellar. I'm considering going back to stock and then upgrading to Oreo, if it's usable. I'm just worried of getting stuck there if the LG firmware turns out to suck (which wouldn't surprise me...).
I've been able to use several other phones a couple of months at a time, and they have all been much better experiences than I've had with LG, custom ROM or not.
kadajawi said:
My experience with Lineage... or rather Resurrection Remix has been less then stellar. I'm considering going back to stock and then upgrading to Oreo, if it's usable. I'm just worried of getting stuck there if the LG firmware turns out to suck (which wouldn't surprise me...).
I've been able to use several other phones a couple of months at a time, and they have all been much better experiences than I've had with LG, custom ROM or not.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I was considering moving to RR because of the lagginess and battery inefficiency of stock Oreo, but was wary of the bad second screen utilization and the lack of the LG cam. When you say your experience with RR was less than stellar, what all do you have in mind?
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I was considering moving to RR because of the lagginess and battery inefficiency of stock Oreo, but was wary of the bad second screen utilization and the lack of the LG cam. When you say your experience with RR was less than stellar, what all do you have in mind?
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Ok... so I was mostly on Android 8 based Resurrection Remix. It was laggy as hell, but... out of nowhere. Like it would be smooth one second and then completely collapse the other. So bad, that unlocking the screen became impossible. Or I could turn on the screen, but it wouldn't react to any input. Taking photos, especially with Gcam, was nearly impossible. It might save the photo, or not. It might take a photo if you press the button, or not. It might take it relatively immediately or it could take up to 10 seconds. Or well, not happen at all. Sometimes you could take a photo, then close the app completely, then take the next photo. Rinse repeat. The behavior was completely random and unreliable, with decent sized crashes along the way. Charging the phone via USB (and some chargers/cables) was impossible, because doing so would drain the battery more than not being plugged in. Sometimes the phone would turn into a space heater for no apparent reason. Second screen support wasn't really worth it either IMHO, because the implementation wasn't as polished as on the stock firmware (mind you I never got past 7).
I'm now on the latest RR (as Lineage just wouldn't boot from a fresh install), and it's... sort of better? The second screen is now just the regular screen, with the left corner being treated as a supersized notch. That's a great use of the space, though I wish on video players it would try to avoid the notch as much as possible. It won't... it's centered. But that's a Google thing. Oh yeah, and Waipu, which I use for TV, won't run properly. Some stations work, some stations (the ones I expect to put more security measures in place) don't.
It ran smooth for the first few hours. Now it has turned into a laggy nightmare again. Well, sometimes. Sometimes it's also smooth and performs as good as you can expect a Snapdragon 820 to perform (which isn't too bad!). But other times... Part of the lag seems to be the notification system, which is currently running amok as I have imported my old SMS and it is keen on showing me every single one of them (to be fair, my last phone, the HUAWEI P30 Pro, did the same after every reboot and it just would not stop). As soon as I put the phone on DND, it seems to perform significantly better.
This is the depressing part. It has decent hardware, I mean, I just got an AnTuTu score of (though the screen froze during a loading screen). This should still be a decent mid range phone. But it behaves like a giant heap of junk. Like a phone that was outdated 10 years ago.
Coming from the P30 Pro, this thing is nothing but frustrating. And while it wasn't so much at the start, it really is now.
I might imagine that the memory is damaged. As in some memory cells behave badly and take a while to read. When it does, the phone essentially locks up.
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Ok... so I was mostly on Android 8 based Resurrection Remix. It was laggy as hell, but... out of nowhere. Like it would be smooth one second and then completely collapse the other. So bad, that unlocking the screen became impossible. Or I could turn on the screen, but it wouldn't react to any input. Taking photos, especially with Gcam, was nearly impossible. It might save the photo, or not. It might take a photo if you press the button, or not. It might take it relatively immediately or it could take up to 10 seconds. Or well, not happen at all. Sometimes you could take a photo, then close the app completely, then take the next photo. Rinse repeat. The behavior was completely random and unreliable, with decent sized crashes along the way. Charging the phone via USB (and some chargers/cables) was impossible, because doing so would drain the battery more than not being plugged in. Sometimes the phone would turn into a space heater for no apparent reason. Second screen support wasn't really worth it either IMHO, because the implementation wasn't as polished as on the stock firmware (mind you I never got past 7).
I'm now on the latest RR (as Lineage just wouldn't boot from a fresh install), and it's... sort of better? The second screen is now just the regular screen, with the left corner being treated as a supersized notch. That's a great use of the space, though I wish on video players it would try to avoid the notch as much as possible. It won't... it's centered. But that's a Google thing. Oh yeah, and Waipu, which I use for TV, won't run properly. Some stations work, some stations (the ones I expect to put more security measures in place) don't.
It ran smooth for the first few hours. Now it has turned into a laggy nightmare again. Well, sometimes. Sometimes it's also smooth and performs as good as you can expect a Snapdragon 820 to perform (which isn't too bad!). But other times... Part of the lag seems to be the notification system, which is currently running amok as I have imported my old SMS and it is keen on showing me every single one of them (to be fair, my last phone, the HUAWEI P30 Pro, did the same after every reboot and it just would not stop). As soon as I put the phone on DND, it seems to perform significantly better.
This is the depressing part. It has decent hardware, I mean, I just got an AnTuTu score of (though the screen froze during a loading screen). This should still be a decent mid range phone. But it behaves like a giant heap of junk. Like a phone that was outdated 10 years ago.
Coming from the P30 Pro, this thing is nothing but frustrating. And while it wasn't so much at the start, it really is now.
I might imagine that the memory is damaged. As in some memory cells behave badly and take a while to read. When it does, the phone essentially locks up.
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Thanks for your detailed answer. An SD 820 certainly shouldn't perform THIS badly. Oneplus devices with the same work as smooth as butter, the difference is night and day. Whatever LG's software team's done to this, is a piece of ****. I'm amazed that they still have their jobs despite creating this hunk of junk. The software is like and obese cow plonked on a sports motorcycle causing it to huff and puff during simple activities.
The worst part is that LG didn't even have the decency to open up sources and make rooting/romming easy, so that others might pick up their slack.
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Thanks for your detailed answer. An SD 820 certainly shouldn't perform THIS badly. Oneplus devices with the same work as smooth as butter, the difference is night and day. Whatever LG's software team's done to this, is a piece of ****. I'm amazed that they still have their jobs despite creating this hunk of junk. The software is like and obese cow plonked on a sports motorcycle causing it to huff and puff during simple activities.
The worst part is that LG didn't even have the decency to open up sources and make rooting/romming easy, so that others might pick up their slack.
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Yes, but the thing is... the custom ROM isn't exactly better either. I think there hardware might be at fault here. Because while the stock ROM performs badly, so do custom ROMs (on the same phone). Unless the software that is at the root of it is used by both, the hardware is simply defective.
I'm getting 104117 in AnTuTu with the V20. Now that isn't spectacular - the P30 Pro did 240k, but it's not too shabby. It's on par with a brand new Samsung Galaxy A30, which I'm pretty sure doesn't break down as badly as the V20.
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Yes, but the thing is... the custom ROM isn't exactly better either. I think there hardware might be at fault here. Because while the stock ROM performs badly, so do custom ROMs (on the same phone). Unless the software that is at the root of it is used by both, the hardware is simply defective.
I'm getting 104117 in AnTuTu with the V20. Now that isn't spectacular - the P30 Pro did 240k, but it's not too shabby. It's on par with a brand new Samsung Galaxy A30, which I'm pretty sure doesn't break down as badly as the V20.
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Hmm.. when you say hardware, the same SD820 is used by others as well like the Oneplus 3, and that's a buttery smooth phone to use even after years of using it, so are there other components that seem to be ****ting the bed in this case?
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Hmm.. when you say hardware, the same SD820 is used by others as well like the Oneplus 3, and that's a buttery smooth phone to use even after years of using it, so are there other components that seem to be ****ting the bed in this case?
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Yeah. Other components. The internal memory perhaps, which may be worn down? I've had a fast SD card that had areas where it'd slow down considerably, as in 300 kB/s instead of 90 MB/s. Maybe they went with low quality memory chips and implemented them poorly, with no wear leveling. Otherwise perhaps some drivers, that custom ROMs also have to use? It's quite weird.
Oh btw., Bluetooth calls aren't working on Resurrection Remix (both based on Android 8 and 9). It's quite annoying...
LG V20 in manufactured very poor, as wvidence..
My LG V20 is produced back in 2016 and known as one of the early production of this device, I can say that this device tend to heat very fast and have a really poor heat management.. Even my full of hatred Ip6S can last longer than my V20.. this is really pathetic..
Before I've move on to V30 and finally got stuck with these Huawei, I intended to dissamble the device and I found out that the thermal paste has dried out.. Even worse, there is only a very little amount of thermal paste placed on top of SoC.. I knew by replacing the paste should fix my issue but my V20 ( not my iP6S ) is my main device atm and I don't have spare time to do this..
I don't what LG thinking back then but for sure, V20 is one of the device I think that have a potential since it have some of the feature that won't exist nowadays such as a useful second screen ( for me at least ), removable battery, a 3.5mm jack, IR blaster, expandable memory and more..
but yes, LG is stupid..
Enough with hardware, I'm going to rant about software..
I don't have any issue with LG UX, I'll love the LG UX actually compared to UX2, 3 and 4.. UX5 and above is fitted with my taste..
The home have a capabilities to make all icon unified if you choose rounded square, then everything will be a rounded square which this option doesn't exist on my Huawei P30 Pro ( I'm miss this option )..
the Camera is easy to navigate with swipe option and second screen.. everything comes in handy, also those manual control interface.. I'll loved it !
Not bothering to implement the portrait feature on this phone is okay since we have Gcam here.. Even V30 doesn't have that.. So, I keep my eyes closed on this one..
BUT.. too bad. Here's come another LG stupidity.. The first phone to be manufactured with Android Nougat is the last one to receive the Android Oreo.. and now Pie.. They even stated so many f**kin time to stop maintaining this device.. How could they do this? LG, why are you keep making stupid decision as you do for LG G4 with only South Korea receiving Nougat, LG G Flex 2 stuck on Lollipop, LG G5 that won't even have a chance to get pie eventhough it used the same SD820 and now this? A flagship device only received ONE major update? Seriously?
But now they mentioned Pie is on the way to LG V20, I'll still have my V20 around but I only put 50% faith on this Pie update since I've been played so many times by LG before..
Errgghhhh...
Anyway, have you see the new LG phone? The phone got SD821 on it.. like seriously? 821 on end of 2019? OMG..
Ok, so I've managed to get Lineage running (maybe I picked the wrong Gapps version). It works a lot better than ResurrectionRemix. For example Bluetooth works, with only tiny break-ups versus RR, which made me sound like I was an a WWII-era tank calling for support. The brightness slider works. The performance so far is smoother. etc. For some reasons the changes in RR seems to have broken the underlying Lineage. Fingers crossed it stays this way.
I'm still not going to buy another LG phone though... I think. Even if they fix the software. Mostly for the camera, because I think they've screwed up there.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/lg-v20-official-android-9-0-pie-update-rollout_id120083
Shouldn't be too long now...
https://lg-firmwares.com/es/lg-f800l-firmwares/#tab=firmwares
F800lV30e.....kdz
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Ok, so I've managed to get Lineage running (maybe I picked the wrong Gapps version). It works a lot better than ResurrectionRemix. For example Bluetooth works, with only tiny break-ups versus RR, which made me sound like I was an a WWII-era tank calling for support. The brightness slider works. The performance so far is smoother. etc. For some reasons the changes in RR seems to have broken the underlying Lineage. Fingers crossed it stays this way.
I'm still not going to buy another LG phone though... I think. Even if they fix the software. Mostly for the camera, because I think they've screwed up there.
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What model you have?
I just receive the f800k pie update via ota 1.9gb file. Update in progress
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https://www.mylgphones.com/lg-v20-f800k-firmware-android-pie.html
KDZ file here
I usually always laughed at my friend, because his iPhone 12 would make the music go choppy on the Bluetooth speakers whenever he went to the bathroom at the office only just next door, while my awesome OnePlus could play even if I was in another room in another floor, it didn't even matter how far away i was, the signal still went through and amazed us all.
But gosh darn it, after the android 12 update.. even if my phone is just in my pocket - if i point it away from the speakers, the music gets Choppy.. it's an obvious massive downgrade from the signal strength i had before and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this since updading?
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I usually always laughed at my friend, because his iPhone 12 would make the music go choppy on the Bluetooth speakers whenever he went to the bathroom at the office only just next door, while my awesome OnePlus could play even if I was in another room in another floor, it didn't even matter how far away i was, the signal still went through and amazed us all.
But gosh darn it, after the android 12 update.. even if my phone is just in my pocket - if i point it away from the speakers, the music gets Choppy.. it's an obvious massive downgrade from the signal strength i had before and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this since updading?
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Did you do a factory reset? This maybe needed.
Did you at least do a network reset?
Many Samsung users rolled back to 11 from 12 so it's not just OP devices.
Personally I refuse to go beyond Android 10 with 9 being my preferred OS. This has more to do with resource sucking scoped storage though. Anything from 9 up is relatively secure. 12 especially is too secure
blackhawk said:
Did you do a factory reset? This maybe needed.
Did you at least do a network reset?
Many Samsung users rolled back to 11 from 12 so it's not just OP devices.
Personally I refuse to go beyond Android 10 with 9 being my preferred OS. This has more to do with resource sucking scoped storage though. Anything from 9 up is relatively secure. 12 especially is too secure
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Ugh, factory resetting is such a hassle
I mean if it fixes it I guess I'll have to do it, but I'd hoped it was as a last resort. I haven't tried a network reset, I don't think I've ever even done that before, so I'll just look into how that's done first and try that out
A network reset sadly didn't work, on the bright side my speakers finally plays Christmas music the way its intended - not playing
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Ugh, factory resetting is such a hassle
I mean if it fixes it I guess I'll have to do it, but I'd hoped it was as a last resort. I haven't tried a network reset, I don't think I've ever even done that before, so I'll just look into how that's done first and try that out
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One reason I don't upgrade especially if the current platform is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Little to gain and a lot to lose.
A network reset is pretty painless just need to reinitalize the bt devices and wifi ones if you use them. I'll use it from time to time if having connection issues.
If you can clear the system cache on that device do so. That can fix a lot of bizarre behavior issues especially if you made major software or firmware changes. Many times a factory reset is the best option if you did a major OTA firmware upgrade. Last thing you want is a boot loop; take any sign of system instability seriously. Make sure all critical data is fully and redundantly backed up as it should always be.
Play with it. A rollback to 11 may be possible as well; not sure about that variant.
This has nothing to do with old files requiring a factory reset. Something has definitely changed in the firmware for OxygenOS 12. I now can't be more than 4 meters apart from my device without the audio getting choppy - it's crazy.
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This has nothing to do with old files requiring a factory reset. Something has definitely changed in the firmware for OxygenOS 12. I now can't be more than 4 meters apart from my device without the audio getting choppy - it's crazy.
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So you tried a factory reset?
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So you tried a factory reset?
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Of course I did. This has _nothing_ to do with storage or stale data. It's something they changed in the firmware when moving from Android 11 to 12.
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Of course I did. This has _nothing_ to do with storage or stale data. It's something they changed in the firmware when moving from Android 11 to 12.
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Well a rollback is your only option then or wait until it's patched unless you can track it down. A lot of Samsung users rolled back from 12 to 11 because of issues.
This an example of one of reasons why I never update firmware that's fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Zero trust in Gookill. They can and have screwed up good products in the past; it's their nature.
ARGH I've been using pixelexperience for months now since I posted this thread, but there were just so many small annoyances so I decided to come back to stock. I had briefly forgotten about all these friggen BT issues so I just installed the newest version again. ARGH XD
Yeah the BT thing is just really annoying.
Same here since Update to Android 12. The Bluetooth Range thing and den slower charging speed (tested with the Android app "Ampere") was very annoying.
None of the known solutions work. The only thing I could do now was go back to Android 11.
Back the Android 11 and bluetooth Range and charging speed ist fine again. Maybe a custom Rom like Lineage 20 or pixel experinece 13 works but in dont want to try, because the installation and the subsequent change back to stock is very time-consuming.
Did somebody test the Android 13 custom roms in view of the two problems??
Greetings
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Same here since Update to Android 12. The Bluetooth Range thing and den slower charging speed (tested with the Android app "Ampere") was very annoying.
None of the known solutions work. The only thing I could do now was go back to Android 11.
Back the Android 11 and bluetooth Range and charging speed ist fine again. Maybe a custom Rom like Lineage 20 or pixel experinece 13 works but in dont want to try, because the installation and the subsequent change back to stock is very time-consuming.
Did somebody test the Android 13 custom roms in view of the two problems??
Greetings
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I tried Pixel Experience 12 & 13 on my Nord.
It feels alright most of the time but there's the occasional annoyances. For instance :
- When rebooting my Nord, the system will ignore the current alert slider position (e.g. I'll shutdown my phone on "silent", move the slider to "ring" when the phone is off, and the phone will stay in "silent" when booting up while the slider is in the "ring" position.
- There's no clear visual feedback as to what mode you're in when moving the alert slider (e.g. the little bubble appearing momentarily on the right side of the screen)
- The camera feels janky for some reason. I did not research this area further unfortunately.
- Sometimes, my Nord will not be able to transfer files to my computer, unless I enable "USB Debugging", which is awful.
I did not notice any unusual behavior regarding charging, but those issues are what you get when only one or two people are working on supporting your device rather than its manufacturer.
How about the Bluetooth Problem in Pixel experience 13?
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How about the Bluetooth Problem in Pixel experience 13?
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I feel like it's a mix between OOS 11 and 12. It's not as bad; but still not great. I don't have any detailed test results, sorry.
Though keep in mind that I'm talking from memory as I had rolled back to OOS 11.
OK, np... I'll stay at Android 11. I dont understand why oneplus dont fixed that Problem. In the oneplus Community Forum many Users Report that Problem..
It feels Like "you are unhappy with your Phone, buy a new one"....
Next Phone no more oneplus.