Question Heat issues - Moto G Stylus (2021)

I bought my Moto Stylus (2021) back at the end of January. I bought a Spigen bumper case and screen protectors from SuperShieldz. As I prefer a ballistic nylon carrier on my belt instead of the typical clip on type holster, There are times when the phone gets really warm.
Here's where the question comes in - periodically I lose service as if the SIM card has stopped working until I reboot or restart from power off. Has anyone else seen this problem? I bought the phone from Amazon unlocked and my carrier is Verizon. I got the SIM card from a company store here vs a franchise location.

Try a network reset.
Clear system cache.
Clear Sim toolkit apk data.
Try a hard reset (not reload).
Try updating related systems apks or rolling them back to their factory load
If you done any major firmware updates since buying do a factory reload.

zeb carter said:
I bought my Moto Stylus (2021) back at the end of January. I bought a Spigen bumper case and screen protectors from SuperShieldz. As I prefer a ballistic nylon carrier on my belt instead of the typical clip on type holster, There are times when the phone gets really warm.
Here's where the question comes in - periodically I lose service as if the SIM card has stopped working until I reboot or restart from power off. Has anyone else seen this problem? I bought the phone from Amazon unlocked and my carrier is Verizon. I got the SIM card from a company store here vs a franchise location.
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Just an update - When the phone gets hot, the SIM still dies until it cools off. the back of the phone is really warm. I use a magnetic mount in the car so the plates are on the back of the phone on the outside of the Spigen bumper case.
You would think with a plastic case, a rubber bumper case, and metal plates that could radiate heat away that it should not be a problem but it is.

zeb carter said:
Just an update - When the phone gets hot, the SIM still dies until it cools off. the back of the phone is really warm. I use a magnetic mount in the car so the plates are on the back of the phone on the outside of the Spigen bumper case.
You would think with a plastic case, a rubber bumper case, and metal plates that could radiate heat away that it should not be a problem but it is.
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Most plastics have a low thermal conductive index. Insulating your phone in warm ambient temperatures tends to cause issues.
If you got thermal shutdowns happening you at a high risk of causing permanent damage.
The display is very vulnerable with it's thousands of semiconductors and if your Li battery suffers a thermal runaway event you may lose a lot more than just the phone... maybe even a pound of flesh, literally.
By the way, keep it out of direct sunlight as the heat buildup can be so swift that the thermal shutdown safeguards will be insufficient to protect the device

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[Q] Case possibly causing device to get hot?

Hello,
I have this generic horizontal case that I grabbed at a local Best Buy store. I can't find it online to link to it, but the case has 2 rather strong magnets on the flap that when closed are right smack in the middle of the battery.
When the phone is in the case, within minutes, the phone gets relatively hot. If I remove it from the case, it cools of in a matter of minutes and never gets hot while out of the case.
I'm pretty sure the on/off switch is not being pressed while in the case, its recessed a bit in the case.
I'm wondering if those magnets are what's causing the phone to get much hotter while in the case.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
I'd bet the magnets are causing the phone to go into dock mode. I have the Body Glove case that AT&T sells & there is no warmth from my phone when in locked & in standby.
Dunno about dock mode, but magnetism and electricity are part of the same force ... electromagenetism. Those magnets should not be strong enough to cause any ill effects, but anything is possible. May be that one of them is over an electronic component (perhaps a transistor) and is just strong enough to cause it to "lock" in the wrong position. Perhaps docking mode ... I don't know why that would cause so much heat ... but if it locked the radio into full power transmit mode this would certainly account for the heat as the expended electricity from the battery would become RF energy and heat.
.... just theory
maybe you could wrap your phone in a towel or other such sort of insulator and see if the heat problem is still there, or open the stiching on the case and reposition the magnets, or remove them entirely and sew some velcro in their place.
Good Luck!!

Observation: Wireless Charging Heat Generation

Hello Everyone,
I wanted to post up something I have noticed. I have the Nexus 4 I also have the OEM wireless charger. At the time of the observations I also had the Skinomi TechSkin front and back cover installed.
In regards to wireless charging it is known to generate extra heat, its a downfall of the process. The Nexus 4 design with its glass and metal build is good at handling this.
I have charged my Nexus 4 on wireless many times and at first while I still had the Skinomi installed I noticed the phone was retaining heat, this freaked me out. My last phone was a Nexus S and heat was the downfall of that unit, if it heated up to many times it broke down components like the power button.
So why was my phone retaining heat? Well I narrowed it down to the protective skin. It is my assumption that there was particular design considerations in the development of the Nexus 4. The Glass/Metal body was put into place to help with the radiating of the heat away from the body over the whole of the surface. When the protective skin is placed this process is hindered.
I removed the protection and then attempted another charge. Heat did build up as before but the phone became cooler quicker.
My conclusion to this is the use of applied protective skins may cause future heat damage to the phone.
This is only my observation though. I would really like to hear from others on this matter.
My nexus does indeed hold more heat for longer with a nilkin case on it while charging wirelessly.

S-view case from ebay

Hello guys!
Has anyone tried this case?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/16130482774...arms=gh1g=I161304827748.N19.S2.M-37283.R3.TR3
No one?
Hi SERGIUHUSCA I have tried an OEM one and it works 100% I cant paste the link yet because of XDA policy.
And it works 100% with Samsung GS5.
Best Regards...
I bought http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171382082...49&var=470430675712&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
But the right-hand side doesn't fully click into place, so I'd be worried about it's water resistance.
I have the official samsung one and it sucks
I have bought nearly a month ago this Samsung EF-CG900BBEGWW S View Cover. In simple words, i am sure you can buy a better case.
This particular one doesn't close well in the front, so sometimes the screen goes on for excessive time. Furthermore, the acrylic window is very fragile and gets scratched easily.
The contact that makes the switch between the small (window) screen and full screen mode, which seems to be placed somewhere in the backpart of the case fails and once in a day i have to unattach and attach it back to get the function again.
Really, bad quality product, I frankly discourage anyone to buy it.
Yep I think all of the s-view covers are having issues with the front part not closing fully. Apparently it's due to lack of magnetism. Mine isn't scratching but I've only had it for 4 days. However, I'd expect it to scratch; and better that scratch than the phone itself, which is the main reason I have the case.
Don't buy this fake case!The case can brik your phone!
After i put the case on my phone in 30 minutes i feel a overheating on the phone!After that the phone doesn't recognize the sim card and reboot itself!Imediatly i take off the case ad everything came back to normal!

Dust under screen

I haven't even had my Pixel for 2 months yet and already have a huge amount of dust inside the screen area.
It is NOT between the digitizer and screen protector, I peeled off and replaced the screen protector thinking that was the case but it is between the LCD and the digitizer!
I should note that I work in construction and I'm around dry wall dust all the time so I think it's drywall dust...
I'm just concerned that this is going to continue getting worse over time. I badly want to use compressed air to blow the dust out, but I'm afraid that attempting it will just blow more dust in.
Is there something defective about my phone or is it normal that it is apparently not sealed very well in the screen area?
I've had it in a case literally since day one, with a screen protector. I try to take good care of my phone's as I pay full retail so I don't lose my grandfathered unlimited data on VZW so I'm kind of upset that I'm going to have to replace my phone in a year when I can't see the screen anymore, not to mention a huge hit in the resale value of horribly dusty phone internals.
Anyone else having dust problems or should I try to contact Google?
Thanks all.
jake5253 said:
I haven't even had my Pixel for 2 months yet and already have a huge amount of dust inside the screen area.
It is NOT between the digitizer and screen protector, I peeled off and replaced the screen protector thinking that was the case but it is between the LCD and the digitizer!
I should note that I work in construction and I'm around dry wall dust all the time so I think it's drywall dust...
I'm just concerned that this is going to continue getting worse over time. I badly want to use compressed air to blow the dust out, but I'm afraid that attempting it will just blow more dust in.
Is there something defective about my phone or is it normal that it is apparently not sealed very well in the screen area?
I've had it in a case literally since day one, with a screen protector. I try to take good care of my phone's as I pay full retail so I don't lose my grandfathered unlimited data on VZW so I'm kind of upset that I'm going to have to replace my phone in a year when I can't see the screen anymore, not to mention a huge hit in the resale value of horribly dusty phone internals.
Anyone else having dust problems or should I try to contact Google?
Thanks all.
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I definitely think you should try to contact google or the case manufacturer if it claims dust protection.
exad said:
I definitely think you should try to contact google or the case manufacturer if it claims dust protection.
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Just as a follow-up to this..
I contacted Google about the dust issue, which has since gotten worse, and I just received an RMA number today.
They want me to factory reset and send the device in and they are (I'm assuming) just going to replace it with a new one.
I explained that I ordered the phone from someone else who had originally ordered it directly from Google.
They also confirmed I will be receiving a Google version of the phone (unlockable BL) and not a Verizon (Locked BL) version (Unlockable like the one I have)
I was told that the phone is "dust resistant" and that this is seemed strange to them, especially being that the phone is less than 2 months old. They actually specifically said "[they] were glad brought this issue to their attention" which kind of makes me think perhaps there is/was something weird with production on some batches?
Next I'll be buying a new case which boasts "Water & Dust Proof" and hoping that it's not incredibly bulky and has muffled audio as many dust/water-proof cases experience.
If anyone else experiences dust buildup under the digitizer, I highly recommend contacting Google and getting your device repaired/replaced. They included a pre-paid postage label and everything so its quite a painless procedure, outside of having to switch back to my S5 for a week or so.
Just my two cents since you're going to be looking for a new case. I've had mine in an OtterBox commuter case since the day I bought it and have had no issues with dust or damage. I use mine as a flashlight for attic/basement crawls as well as toss it in drywall dust piles constantly. I'm pretty hard on it and I've had zero issues. It's not as slim as I'd like of a case but it's not too bulky and seems to protect pretty good.
fritzgerald said:
Just my two cents since you're going to be looking for a new case. I've had mine in an OtterBox commuter case since the day I bought it and have had no issues with dust or damage. I use mine as a flashlight for attic/basement crawls as well as toss it in drywall dust piles constantly. I'm pretty hard on it and I've had zero issues. It's not as slim as I'd like of a case but it's not too bulky and seems to protect pretty good.
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Perfect! Thanks for the recommendation. I'll see what I can find online. I have a few days before my new phone will be here so I will get one ordered so I can get my phone back in a case as soon as it arrives.
Do you also have a standalone screen protector on yours or does the OtterBox provide a built-in screen protector?
jake5253 said:
Perfect! Thanks for the recommendation. I'll see what I can find online. I have a few days before my new phone will be here so I will get one ordered so I can get my phone back in a case as soon as it arrives.
Do you also have a standalone screen protector on yours or does the OtterBox provide a built-in screen protector?
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The defender comes with a screen protector but the case is huge. The commuter does not come with one. I used one of those tempered glass protectors for about a day but didn't like how the edges didn't stick fully down so I took it off and have been running naked since about November and no noticable scratches. If you have a Verizon store close by they should stock the commuter.

Heat dissipation through phone case

Hello to all,
I use my phone in a booklet phone case.
When I use the phone inside my car with Android Auto wireless I noticed that it gets really hot. I checked the battery temperature.
Especially as it is summer now, the ambient temperatures are higher than a couple of months ago.
I now have on a regular base 37-38°C battery temperature (read by Accubattery app).
At 39°+ I noticed that the phone slows down (in order to prevent heat damage).
Therefore I wonder if a head transfer tape could improve heat dissipation. I'm thinking of a tape like on GPUs in computer hardware.
I found something on Aliexpress:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003391217799.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.3b6c70d4Do2bNy&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.274681.0&scm_id=1007.13339.274681.0&scm-url=1007.13339.274681.0&pvid=45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.274681.0%2Cpvid%3A45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000025672972360%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CHF%21%211.33%21%21%21%21%21%402101d1ad16546778477633194e3ff4%2112000025672972360%21rec&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
My idea is to put the tape between the back cover and phone case to improve heat transfer.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Do you think that this could lead to lower battery temperatures?
Thank you very much.
SOFO888 said:
Hello to all,
I use my phone in a booklet phone case.
When I use the phone inside my car with Android Auto wireless I noticed that it gets really hot. I checked the battery temperature.
Especially as it is summer now, the ambient temperatures are higher than a couple of months ago.
I now have on a regular base 37-38°C battery temperature (read by Accubattery app).
At 39°+ I noticed that the phone slows down (in order to prevent heat damage).
Therefore I wonder if a head transfer tape could improve heat dissipation. I'm thinking of a tape like on GPUs in computer hardware.
I found something on Aliexpress:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003391217799.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.3b6c70d4Do2bNy&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.274681.0&scm_id=1007.13339.274681.0&scm-url=1007.13339.274681.0&pvid=45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.274681.0%2Cpvid%3A45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000025672972360%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CHF%21%211.33%21%21%21%21%21%402101d1ad16546778477633194e3ff4%2112000025672972360%21rec&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
My idea is to put the tape between the back cover and phone case to improve heat transfer.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Do you think that this could lead to lower battery temperatures?
Thank you very much.
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It depends on the material that your case is made of. Using some kind of thermal absorbing material between the phone and the case might extract the heat from the device but if your case doesn't dissipate the heat absorbed by the thermal material, the heat will just be trapped between the back cover and your case, which isnt really an improvement.
Try a different case or no case.
The phone stays in a silicone case which is glued to the booklet made of PU.
PU does not have a good thermal conductivity. Perhaps I could add some holes so that the heat dissipation tape gets ambient air.
SOFO888 said:
The phone stays in a silicone case which is glued to the booklet made of PU.
PU does not have a good thermal conductivity. Perhaps I could add some holes so that the heat dissipation tape gets ambient air.
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Maybe a small portable cooling pad like used with small laptops would help or a small 12v fan that plugs into a 12v outlet in your car.
I already thought about a fan.
I ordered an ESR wireless charger with Cryoboost (cooling fan) to check if charging would be possible with fan.

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