Hello,
I have this generic horizontal case that I grabbed at a local Best Buy store. I can't find it online to link to it, but the case has 2 rather strong magnets on the flap that when closed are right smack in the middle of the battery.
When the phone is in the case, within minutes, the phone gets relatively hot. If I remove it from the case, it cools of in a matter of minutes and never gets hot while out of the case.
I'm pretty sure the on/off switch is not being pressed while in the case, its recessed a bit in the case.
I'm wondering if those magnets are what's causing the phone to get much hotter while in the case.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
I'd bet the magnets are causing the phone to go into dock mode. I have the Body Glove case that AT&T sells & there is no warmth from my phone when in locked & in standby.
Dunno about dock mode, but magnetism and electricity are part of the same force ... electromagenetism. Those magnets should not be strong enough to cause any ill effects, but anything is possible. May be that one of them is over an electronic component (perhaps a transistor) and is just strong enough to cause it to "lock" in the wrong position. Perhaps docking mode ... I don't know why that would cause so much heat ... but if it locked the radio into full power transmit mode this would certainly account for the heat as the expended electricity from the battery would become RF energy and heat.
.... just theory
maybe you could wrap your phone in a towel or other such sort of insulator and see if the heat problem is still there, or open the stiching on the case and reposition the magnets, or remove them entirely and sew some velcro in their place.
Good Luck!!
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Ran across this today searching for cases for the Epic. Anyone using one? Its interesting in that it locks the slider during normal use and hinges open if you want to use the keyboard.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_10000000_11001061&products_id=31414
Now this looks like quite a nice case for functionality.
Now if they just took off the whole part in the back for the clip and form fit the corners a bit more and offered it in more colors that'd be nice.
This may be the best thing I can do for now, I have been scouring for a jelly case to slip over the epic, since I never use the keyboard
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
bitbang3r said:
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
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There are videos on you tube. The bottom looks like a very snug press fit. Top must be looser to allow for the hinge to work.
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I had a similar case for my old HTC Titan. I LOVED it. Being a pretty serious phone abuser, that case kept my phone together!
-Rob
I used to have a similar case for my Treo and they are extremely well made. I irregularly dropped my phone from about 5 feet in the air onto hard linoleum and it never suffered any indignities. These come in both black and silver so if you want a different color you would want the silver so you could send it out to be powder coated.
I just ordered one.
Mine came last night.
The good: locks the slider firmly closed. No wobble or "play" at all when pressing the power button. Phone easy to remove (for GameGripper purposes).
The bad: Feels terrifyingly slippery compared to the Seidio ActiveX. Obstructs "slide down" gesture for notifications.
The seemingly fatal (a big one): my "back" fake hardkey keeps randomly going berserk... but ONLY that specific one. The foam in the top half seems to be confusing the capacitive sensor.
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Update: I've had the 'search' fake hardkey freak out a few times on me, too.
Another problem: it's definitely affecting reception. 4G and GPS barely work with the case in place.
Sigh. So close. So agonizingly close. It's awesome to not have the phone shear and jiggle apart every time I hit the power button, and the fact that it allows the phone to be easily removed for the Game Gripper without really compromising the slide-out keyboard's usability is very cool.
I'm really convinced that this case went straight from plastic prototype to mass production before anyone actually tried to use it in an area with 4G service, high humidity (presumably what's screwing up the foam and touchscreen), and who didn't just assume that the GPS was dysfunctional because Samsung sucks.
Sigh. Too expensive to throw away, and really nice in ways that ultimately don't matter because the touchscreen-button problem makes it totally unusable
The plot thickens: more touchscreen observations:
* Oddly, there's NO FOAM around the lower part of the screen where the phantom-pressed fake hardkeys are.
* Last night, it went completely berserk with phantom button presses on cue when I rubbed the latch a certain way.
This suggests that the problem's root cause might extend to the electrical conductivity of the case itself. It's strange, because I wasn't able to find reports of the same problem for users of Monaco cases for other phones (like the Droid). Lots of complaints about signal attenuation, but no reports of touchscreen problems.
I'm seriously tempted to buy some liquid electrical tape and coat the inside of the lid to see whether it helps. The problem DOES seem to go away when the lid is no longer in contact with the screen. However, if it's happening because the sensor is acting kind of like a Hall Effect sensor and the case is acting like a Faraday cage, nothing short of making the case (or at least the top lid) out of plastic is likely to fix the problem. Still, it's worth a try since I really like the case itself, and my alternative is to basically chuck it.
Update: as an experiment, I wrapped black electrical tape around the bottom lip of the top part. It helped a lot. I think I might have also found a contributing cause: cat fur. I think wisps of cat fur might be bridging the metal case & screen and carrying static electricity to the sensor. Oddly, though, some of its *worst* back-arrow spasams have occurred with the phone laying on the desk, untouched, 3 feet away.
I'm still trying to think of a good way to plastic-coat the case without making it look bad & get a nice, even black rubbery coating on it.
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How thin is it compared to the other plastic cases?
Very interested in getting the Monaco Aluminum Case, which is very similar to this one. My last concern, how thin is it compared to Seidio Innocase Surface?
Hi guys. I recently saw this (http://blog.whitesites.com/HTC-Sensation-4G-Chrome-Polished-Frame__634471425817343750_blog.htm) and decided to try this on my phone's battery cover. it looks pretty cool now, with the battery door shiny and mirrorish. you can try this out too, but make sure you dont sand the metal too hard after the dark blue paint falls off, because thats going to give it scratches that are hard to remove. you can use about 100 grit to remove the paint, then 400 to make the surface smooth. with the new look, i feel like i have a new phone again. haha
Post pictures when you are done! I was considering it too, but i really like the feel of the blue material...
shungun said:
Post pictures when you are done! I was considering it too, but i really like the feel of the blue material...
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here, ive uploaded a picture, its in the first post. i like the new texture now, it feels just as smooth as the front glass! and it feels cooler in my hand too (maybe because im touching the metal directly, and not through the paint)
Wow! That looks really good! I'll do this when i have time
So here is a little trick to go along with that. Since the blue / purple backing on the battery cover was a rubber composite, it tended to hold heat more. Now that you got that barrier off, here is the next step. Wrap your battery in aluminum foil and then put the cover on. Since aluminum foil doesn't conduct heat it will transfer it to the backing (since it doesn't actually touch the battery without the foil bridge) and dissipate the heat during use. This will keep your temperature down and for what it is worth, extend lifeline of the battery. I actually did this a long time ago (only in didn't sand the back, I soaked the cover in acetate solution and the rubber peeled right off) and it works fairly well, especially when using CPU for a duration like online music.
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So here is a little trick to go along with that. Since the blue / purple backing on the battery cover was a rubber composite, it tended to hold heat more. Now that you got that barrier off, here is the next step. Wrap your battery in aluminum foil and then put the cover on. Since aluminum foil doesn't conduct heat it will transfer it to the backing (since it doesn't actually touch the battery without the foil bridge) and dissipate the heat during use. This will keep your temperature down and for what it is worth, extend lifeline of the battery. I actually did this a long time ago (only in didn't sand the back, I soaked the cover in acetate solution and the rubber peeled right off) and it works fairly well, especially when using CPU for a duration like online music.
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cool, what made you put that cover into the solution? sounds much better cos it doesnt leave scratches. where do you get it?
if you allow heat to go into the cover, wont the phone feel much hotter in your hand? and wouldnt it affect the temperature of the lcd? my phone gets hot sometimes when charging, so i just remove the cover and leave the phone standing on the windowsill to prevent that.
Acetate is really nothing more than nail polish remover. I was getting my Google on a long time ago and came across it. Some kid with an XT did a YouTube video on it.
Since the heat is dissipating out the back, it doesn't effect the LCD on the front. The cover doesn't get too hot and actually the phone runs cooler bc the heat has somewhere to go.
Think of it like a wetsuit. You are totally dry and warm when fully covered, but open the neck a bit and your whole body gets cold. Phone is same way bc of the rubber coating. Remove that and the heat has somewhere to go and not stay trapped inside and cause possible damage to battery and CPU.
Ive had my note pro for 2 months now and i can't return it given the niche nature of this product sourcing parts will be difficult. My back cover i think does not fit perfect over the device this ratting sound which appeared last week out of the blue i have pinpointed it to being the insides being flexed and mov3d slightly causing the back cover to not fit properly,
Clearly this is a hardware issue should i be concerned?
Im worried that the insides will push more and more outward causing either screen flickering issues from a loose cable or the battery connector may get loose. Is the only solution other than taking it to samsung for repair to put a snug case over it thst clips in so that it's held in place?
It is a bit disconcerting when i press on the back it flexes in a bit before i can feel the battery etc
does anyonr else have a loose back cover that doesn't fit flush against the insides?
Crap im starting to think the ill fitting cover might be due to battery swell. Has anyone had a swelling battery in their note pro?
I can't believe i could be that unlucky to get that. I look after my battery i use a fan whrn i charge and it never heats up or overheats so nothing indicates a swelling battery byt when i feel the back it doesn't feel smooth on that side.
No need for multiple threads, you are posting about same problem here: [Q] Tapping on upper middle of screen makes rattle vibrate sound like something loose
Can some8ne give mr an answer at least as to what it might be?
Hi you my friends. This is my first post in this forum,
and I've reading you since 2011, tweaking roming etc. So it's my time to contribute. I develop myself a few abilities related to hardware modifications, in old consoles,phones and PC's which gives to me a sense of "ausence of fear" when I begin a new work, so, this is my contribution for the problem of overheating from this phone
After opening the rear case, and extracting all the screws with the screwdriver you only have to detach first the speaker black down zone with your nails (don't worry if you haven't got) and the upper black plastic cover, which shows to us all the motherboard and all from this phone. The idea is very simple.
LG does not seem to place a proper passive cooling system which is in the Lumia 950XL or thermal paste on the Snap 810 2.1 Nexus 6P, INSTEAD, they put a simple insulating rubber between the Processor and the screen, which turns it into a doom, a true hot hell.
If you do the simple mod i'm going to describe, you will never hurt your hands from touching the screen caused by the heat.
1: detach all the cables from the motherboard, or only the two cameras (with your nail)
2: see the processor in the reverse of the motherboard touching the screen and extract this ****ing insulating rubber with your nails and instead of it, put foil paper and around the area to make a full working cooling system. Close the phone and enjoy.
The things I notice is when i am web browsing the phone is at 100% of the brightness and does not overheat. And when i turn it on the phone does not overheat also. Which is good. Maybe this little trick will help you to don't lose or "burn" your phone and have it like a brick.
Easyness: 4.5/5
Time: 5/5
Effectivity: 4/5
HiramAbiff said:
Hi you my friends. This is my first post in this forum,
and I've reading you since 2011, tweaking roming etc. So it's my time to contribute. I develop myself a few abilities related to hardware modifications, in old consoles,phones and PC's which gives to me a sense of "ausence of fear" when I begin a new work, so, this is my contribution for the problem of overheating from this phone
After opening the rear case, and extracting all the screws with the screwdriver you only have to detach first the speaker black down zone with your nails (don't worry if you haven't got) and the upper black plastic cover, which shows to us all the motherboard and all from this phone. The idea is very simple.
LG does not seem to place a proper passive cooling system which is in the Lumia 950XL or thermal paste on the Snap 810 2.1 Nexus 6P, INSTEAD, they put a simple insulating rubber between the Processor and the screen, which turns it into a doom, a true hot hell.
If you do the simple mod i'm going to describe, you will never hurt your hands from touching the screen caused by the heat.
1: detach all the cables from the motherboard, or only the two cameras (with your nail)
2: see the processor in the reverse of the motherboard touching the screen and extract this ****ing insulating rubber with your nails and instead of it, put foil paper and around the area to make a full working cooling system. Close the phone and enjoy.
The things I notice is when i am web browsing the phone is at 100% of the brightness and does not overheat. And when i turn it on the phone does not overheat also. Which is good. Maybe this little trick will help you to don't lose or "burn" your phone and have it like a brick.
Easyness: 4.5/5
Time: 5/5
Effectivity: 4/5
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There is a thread somewhere with someone doing this with a small sheet of copper instead of foil. They also reported an improvement in heat and performance.
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danslb said:
There is a thread somewhere with someone doing this with a small sheet of copper instead of foil. They also reported an improvement in heat and performance.
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That's nice. It's good to see that with easy tools you can fix the main problem of the phone. With only a screwdriver and foil the results are very, very good. I'm a bit proud of that, that i can play the top 10 gameloft games without any kind of slow down or shuttering.
Thanks for the info :good:
I would strongly advise against doing this cooling mod. The "insulating rubber" the OP is talking about is actually a thermal pad, which facilitates thermal transfer between the CPU package and the metal frame inside the phone (same function as thermal paste between a heatsink and CPU) . By removing it and replacing it with foil, it is breaking thermal contact with the metal frame. Yes, the phone doesn't feel as hot, but that is because the heat is no longer conducted to and dissipated by the metal frame, and the heat is trapped in the CPU and motherboard. Though the phone has lower surface temperatures, the trapped heat is unhealthy for the device in the long term and causes more throttling, as well as risking damage to the internal components (especially the battery).
As such, a viable thermal mod would be to replace the stock thermal pad with a high quality 1mm thermal pad (such as the Fujipoly 17 W/mk ones, can be found on Amazon for around $10~20) as well as placing 0.5mm thermal pads on the metal shield around the CPU. I may be putting up pictures of this in a separate post if I have the time.
To the OP, I recommend you replace the foil with a high quality thermal pad, before the excessive heat burns up your device
Cheers!
Hello to all,
I use my phone in a booklet phone case.
When I use the phone inside my car with Android Auto wireless I noticed that it gets really hot. I checked the battery temperature.
Especially as it is summer now, the ambient temperatures are higher than a couple of months ago.
I now have on a regular base 37-38°C battery temperature (read by Accubattery app).
At 39°+ I noticed that the phone slows down (in order to prevent heat damage).
Therefore I wonder if a head transfer tape could improve heat dissipation. I'm thinking of a tape like on GPUs in computer hardware.
I found something on Aliexpress:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003391217799.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.3b6c70d4Do2bNy&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.274681.0&scm_id=1007.13339.274681.0&scm-url=1007.13339.274681.0&pvid=45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.274681.0%2Cpvid%3A45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000025672972360%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CHF%21%211.33%21%21%21%21%21%402101d1ad16546778477633194e3ff4%2112000025672972360%21rec&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
My idea is to put the tape between the back cover and phone case to improve heat transfer.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Do you think that this could lead to lower battery temperatures?
Thank you very much.
SOFO888 said:
Hello to all,
I use my phone in a booklet phone case.
When I use the phone inside my car with Android Auto wireless I noticed that it gets really hot. I checked the battery temperature.
Especially as it is summer now, the ambient temperatures are higher than a couple of months ago.
I now have on a regular base 37-38°C battery temperature (read by Accubattery app).
At 39°+ I noticed that the phone slows down (in order to prevent heat damage).
Therefore I wonder if a head transfer tape could improve heat dissipation. I'm thinking of a tape like on GPUs in computer hardware.
I found something on Aliexpress:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005003391217799.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000060.2.3b6c70d4Do2bNy&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.274681.0&scm_id=1007.13339.274681.0&scm-url=1007.13339.274681.0&pvid=45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a&_t=gps-id%3ApcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller%2Cscm-url%3A1007.13339.274681.0%2Cpvid%3A45b86060-38ea-4e8a-a9ce-51254861be9a%2Ctpp_buckets%3A668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000025672972360%22%2C%22sceneId%22%3A%223339%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21CHF%21%211.33%21%21%21%21%21%402101d1ad16546778477633194e3ff4%2112000025672972360%21rec&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu
My idea is to put the tape between the back cover and phone case to improve heat transfer.
Does anyone have experience with this?
Do you think that this could lead to lower battery temperatures?
Thank you very much.
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It depends on the material that your case is made of. Using some kind of thermal absorbing material between the phone and the case might extract the heat from the device but if your case doesn't dissipate the heat absorbed by the thermal material, the heat will just be trapped between the back cover and your case, which isnt really an improvement.
Try a different case or no case.
The phone stays in a silicone case which is glued to the booklet made of PU.
PU does not have a good thermal conductivity. Perhaps I could add some holes so that the heat dissipation tape gets ambient air.
SOFO888 said:
The phone stays in a silicone case which is glued to the booklet made of PU.
PU does not have a good thermal conductivity. Perhaps I could add some holes so that the heat dissipation tape gets ambient air.
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Maybe a small portable cooling pad like used with small laptops would help or a small 12v fan that plugs into a 12v outlet in your car.
I already thought about a fan.
I ordered an ESR wireless charger with Cryoboost (cooling fan) to check if charging would be possible with fan.