Hi everyone,
are there any exclusive features that you lose when you unlock the phone? In general, I heard you lose camera quality with exynos Soc, but is there anything else? And is it true?
Don't lose camera quality, only knox and some apps from samsung that relative from knox and only that
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warranty aside, what are the implication of unlocking the bootloader? I've read something about DRM keys being deleted but what are the effects of it? will the phone loss some of the feature it previously has?
noobAKO said:
warranty aside, what are the implication of unlocking the bootloader? I've read something about DRM keys being deleted but what are the effects of it? will the phone loss some of the feature it previously has?
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I have been using a unlocked phone for a week now.. and I see no harmful effects
The only direct implication of that is your warranty is voided. That's it - you void it officially, yourself when you request the unlock code from Sony.
No changes in usability or workability.
thanks guys. can i get a little bit off topic?
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the power button of my phone feels a little bit fragile. is it normal? it feels like pressing a key on a keyboard.
edit: I just want to confirm whether if the power button is softer than other model. or is it a factory defect?
It is true that DRM keys are erased from Sony devices when unlocked. For flagship Z devices this includes DRM related to camera processing so image quality is reduced on unlocked phones.
However the 5mpx camera sensor in E3 is several orders of magnitude inferior to the 20mpx camera sensor in Z3.
Either this device does not include similar camera DRM or the sensor is so bad that it didn't make a difference anyway. I see zero difference in any part of an unlocked E3 running stock ROM.
adfad666 said:
It is true that DRM keys are erased from Sony devices when unlocked. For flagship Z devices this includes DRM related to camera processing so image quality is reduced on unlocked phones.
However the 5mpx camera sensor in E3 is several orders of magnitude inferior to the 20mpx camera sensor in Z3.
Either this device does not include similar camera DRM or the sensor is so bad that it didn't make a difference anyway. I see zero difference in any part of an unlocked E3 running stock ROM.
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yeah i ulockedbootloader and able to run all sony apps like walkman ar effects
Hello everybody. Does anyone know when and if samsung will update the camera software on the Galaxy S6 with raw support and shutter speed control like Note 5 or S6 edge plus? The hardware is identical, so it should be only a software improvement. And until then, is there a custom rom that ported the new camera app to Galaxy S6?
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Hello everybody. Does anyone know when and if samsung will update the camera software on the Galaxy S6 with raw support and shutter speed control like Note 5 or S6 edge plus? The hardware is identical, so it should be only a software improvement. And until then, is there a custom rom that ported the new camera app to Galaxy S6?
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The 5.1.1 update was supposed to bring raw support. Sure speed control on the other hand I have heard nothing about
Snowby123 said:
The 5.1.1 update was supposed to bring raw support. Sure speed control on the other hand I have heard nothing about
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Well, seems like Shamesung has pulled a new low move from the shame hat. I just went an tested in a store a brand new s6 edge plus, installed Aida64, and the entire camera system, front and back sensor, image processing, etc, are exactly the same (this was Sony sensor). So they are trying to differentiate the Galaxy S6 from the more "pro" S6 edge+ or Note 5 just by software gimmiks... I am very disappointed, i payed a premium price for my Galaxy, it's only 4 months old... i want the phone to be the best as it can be, not artificially "gimped".
Greetings.
After going crazy looking for a phone to replace my Nexus 5 and not finding one that ticks all the boxes, I'm planning on getting a Galaxy S6. I'm not a fan of Touchwiz, but overall it seems to be the phone that best suits me. (Size, great camera, fast performance)
However today I was trying out a couple Samsung phones at a Sammie counter and I noticed the Galaxy S6 edge+ has shutter speed control on Pro mode. While the regular S6 (the one I'm interested in) doesn't.
Aren't the cameras the same on both models?
A friend who works at Samsung (marketing department) said he's pretty sure the regular S6 has shutter speed control on Pro mode.
I can't seem to find information on it o.o
So how is it? Does it have it now because of some software update? If not, is it in Samsung plans to bring it soon?
On a different note, is there anything terrible bad about the S6 I should be aware of before buying it? Random and formed opinions on the phone seem to be pretty good, but I wonder...
Thanks in advance
Your friend works at samsung and he gave you false info... no the Galaxy S6 has a max of 0.5 sec shutter speed and is only accessible with 3rd party camera apps and that really sucks
What?! even with third party software it's limited to 0.5 secs?
That sucks.
Well, I've also been looking at the LG g4. Does anyone have any experience with both phones?
The camera has more options however LG's software experience is even worse than Samsung I think. Plus the camera ain't always better
However, longer shutter is coming, as it is already included in the S6E+. Probably with the next update or Android 6
Hopefully!
Is there anything I should be aware about the S6?
One of the things I like the least on it is the notification menu full of buttons... I much rather have the Google's approach with a second page for the settings. Is it something you can change with root?
crzykiller said:
Your friend works at samsung and he gave you false info... no the Galaxy S6 has a max of 0.5 sec shutter speed and is only accessible with 3rd party camera apps and that really sucks
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Hi I was just wondering where did you find that shutter speed for the samsung s6 and do you know what the default is I need to find this information for the s6 and iphone 6 but shutter speed along with information on the lens manufacture seems to be extremely difficult to find for some reason.
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Hi I was just wondering where did you find that shutter speed for the samsung s6 and do you know what the default is I need to find this information for the s6 and iphone 6 but shutter speed along with information on the lens manufacture seems to be extremely difficult to find for some reason.
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Default shutter speeds for the S6 range from 1/2 to 1/16000
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Default shutter speeds for the S6 range from 1/2 to 1/16000
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hi sorry to bother you again I need to be able to reference this information to a website and I have been checking places like phone arena and gsm arena but they dont seem to have it there ,just wondering where did you find this information
JohnDw19 said:
hi sorry to bother you again I need to be able to reference this information to a website and I have been checking places like phone arena and gsm arena but they dont seem to have it there ,just wondering where did you find this information
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By checking the values in ProShot.
Hey all,
Been away from sony phones for a little bit, but got an XZ premium from my carrier, and am pretty impressed with it. Loving the screen, form factor, etc.
Have some questions before jumping into customs roms and stuff.
1. When you unlock bootloader now, is there still a loss of DRM? - is there a way to manage this?
2. I noticed the ported Pixel 2 camera app doesnt seem to work without some further adjustments / mods. For those that have done it, is there significant improvement? Side by side with my HTC U11, the XZP looks comparable initially, but cropping or zooming in, there is a big loss of sharpness and clarity. Seems Sony's processing still isnt top notch - Does the Pixel camera app do any better? (the front camera is better tho!)
3. If one was to wish to return to full stock, is EMMA still the best/easiest way? - do DRM keys return?
4. In a custom ROM, I'd be looking for something near stock in look and feel, improved battery management, better camera experience (via 2 or some other tweaks), wide VoLTE support. ANy recommendations to look at?
cheers!
Yes you will loss DRM keys but there is a DRM fix
sephstyler said:
Hey all,
Been away from sony phones for a little bit, but got an XZ premium from my carrier, and am pretty impressed with it. Loving the screen, form factor, etc.
Have some questions before jumping into customs roms and stuff.
1. When you unlock bootloader now, is there still a loss of DRM? - is there a way to manage this?
2. I noticed the ported Pixel 2 camera app doesnt seem to work without some further adjustments / mods. For those that have done it, is there significant improvement? Side by side with my HTC U11, the XZP looks comparable initially, but cropping or zooming in, there is a big loss of sharpness and clarity. Seems Sony's processing still isnt top notch - Does the Pixel camera app do any better? (the front camera is better tho!)
3. If one was to wish to return to full stock, is EMMA still the best/easiest way? - do DRM keys return?
4. In a custom ROM, I'd be looking for something near stock in look and feel, improved battery management, better camera experience (via 2 or some other tweaks), wide VoLTE support. ANy recommendations to look at?
cheers!
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Hi,
1- There is a patch that sToRm // you can use it without any fear;
2- For the camera, personally, I find it well, I had no problem with it;
3- If you want to come back in stock rom, there is no better than xperirm (you can flash it with new flash);
4- For sony devices there is no better than a rom stock, for other custom roms, personally, i don' like them.
Oh, there was a typo in title, *than
One of the main reason I installed AOSP while breaking my drm is, Google Camera HDR+ makes Xperia Cameras wonderful too
There were several actual photos took by xperia with google camera, so I thought my phone's camera would get great too
However, the photos that I took with my XZP are noisy, and all the small details like small letters got away.
I guess it might be because of broken DRM, since it disables noise reduction function of the camera, but then how can others get better photos with their rooted xperia with google camera.
Do you guys know if there's a solution for this?
Actually I started to regret I shouldn't unlock my phone and keep using it as stock, but my DRM's already gone and DRM fix is just a temporal solution... since my DRM's gone forever.
It's not that bad with my phone, but maybe settings have something to do with it. HDR makes it sharper for some reason and I use:
Support level override: NEXUS_2015
Config Camera: Pixel 2017 (DR Dogfood)
HDR+ burst frame count: 8
The rest is probably default. But you can always return to stock and use storm's drm hack, then you have the normal quality camera again.
I've tried that settings, but the result stays noisy too
It seems like there's no way to improve image quality of XZP
If you install AOSP rom to use Google HDR+, the phone will kill the noise reduction so the result gets terribly noisy since DRMfix doesn't support stock based roms.
If you install Sony stock based roms, you can't use Google HDR+ due to lack of camera 2 API support.
Also as AOSP with Google camera yields worse outcome than stock rom, maybe it's really pointless thing to unlock your XZP to get better image qualities.
But it's too late to regret because my DRM has gone forever.
well you dont have to feel bad true that you lost your own drm keys but installing stock based rom with drm fix is the same as official stock and even smoother and better optimized plus you get all the cool features of root so a guy like you gets the root and drm fix that works the same as official and a guy like me is in official drm but bored cuz its not rooted so in both ways there is a compromise..
as I already said, sony has the best hardware on a device. EVER!
4k HRD? 120hz screen thats MAD but cant use it XD
sony cameras are sold to all companies cuz its the best but they use scripts to make it look worse (on purpose in my opinion)
in other words, sony cares about other companies cuz they make them a lot more money than their customers and as I heard they have a contract with other companies that uses their camera and sony is not allowed to make a device that has better cameras and they dont care you know why? cuz other companies make them ALOT MORE money than their own customers.
and advertising the device as it has 4k that doesnt work all the time, and a surprisingly 120hz support that is useless and a good camera (that sucks cuz of their own software) is just LOW of sony to do! promising cool features that exist but never actually having to use them is just FOR ADVERTISEMENT PURPOSE this is my last device from sony unless its a high end video camera from sony then yes, but other than that, sony is not worth it...