Hey, I switched to one plus one which is absolutely great phone out there last week from sony xperia z and in sony devices, unlocking bootloader will decrease the quality of camera. There are many blue & red noises in the photo once you unlock your bootloader on sony devices, which is very annoying. So will the same case happen in our one plus one ? Thanks in advance.
Unlocking your bootloader has nothing to do with affecting the quality of your camera.
If you're encountering blue/red noises in your photo, its most likely due to undervolting.
zephiK said:
Unlocking your bootloader has nothing to do with affecting the quality of your camera.
If you're encountering blue/red noises in your photo, its most likely due to undervolting.
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With all due respect, I would request you to please confirm that after testing because as Sony has revealed that some of their noise reduction features are proprietary and hence they have hardcoded them to the bootloader of their phones.
Unlocking SOny phones, also wipes these noise reduction code snippets and hence, their camera quality DOES decrease. They have proven that with photos.
Now, Does the same thing happens to Oneplus one also?
Request you to please answer as you are an expert.
Thanks in advance
Siddarth Malik said:
With all due respect, I would request you to please confirm that after testing because as Sony has revealed that some of their noise reduction features are proprietary and hence they have hardcoded them to the bootloader of their phones.
Unlocking SOny phones, also wipes these noise reduction code snippets and hence, their camera quality DOES decrease. They have proven that with photos.
Now, Does the same thing happens to Oneplus one also?
Request you to please answer as you are an expert.
Thanks in advance
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No it doesn't happen, this problem is restricted to Sony devices.
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Hey,
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot.
I'm wondering if it's worth to change my phone, I've been using the Xperia Z3 since 3 years and I'm thinking about moving into Z5.
Would it be a good move? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks in advance!
honest truth for me, i would love to go back to my Z3 only cause of the battery life. like for like use i would get a day and half with the Z3 and now i barely make it to a full day.
i would probably look at one of the newer Sony's at least that way support will be there for a little while longer as well.
Doesn't agree with you, I'm running SlimX Custom ROM With Xposed + Amplify, Doze, Greenify ect..
I managed to customize my energy consumption using kernel Auditor and my z5 is now fully adapted to my everyday task and usage, my battery is way more efficient than when I was running stock
Malerovi said:
Hey,
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot.
I'm wondering if it's worth to change my phone, I've been using the Xperia Z3 since 3 years and I'm thinking about moving into Z5.
Would it be a good move? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks in advance!
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z5 has added features like 4k screen and better battery but the device heats and shows battery drainage if its not rooted and you haven't customized it accordingly! also z5 screen brightness has been kept lower than z3 so during day time you may face visibility issues
i would suggest if you wana upgrade try considering XZs or upcoming XZP having better 4g connectivity with 4 inbuilt antennas and snadragon 835 process
YasuHamed said:
i would suggest if you wana upgrade try considering XZs or upcoming XZP having better 4g connectivity with 4 inbuilt antennas and snadragon 835 process
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Thanks for your opinion.
By the way, what do you mean by XZs or XZP?
Malerovi said:
Thanks for your opinion.
By the way, what do you mean by XZs or XZP?
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the next generation of sony Xperia
Xperia XZs (released)
Xperia XZP (forthcoming)
At first I thought I decided wrong but now let say u use marshmallow, xposed grenify u won't regret it. I moved to stock nougat and it is great, just waiting for xposed
But I agree with colleagues here, take a look at XZ premium
The Xperia Z 5 Premium? the Dual sim one¿?
If that's it, it's around 450USD in my country, way cheap according to the normal Z5
Malerovi said:
The Xperia Z 5 Premium? the Dual sim one¿?
If that's it, it's around 450USD in my country, way cheap according to the normal Z5
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No Z5 premium, but XZ Premium it is not realeased yet.
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
Malerovi said:
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
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If you need two sims get dual sim, otherwise no need for dual sim.
But for that money you should get OnePlus 3T, which is 10 times better,
Malerovi said:
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
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Z5P is bigger screen 4k support device and amazing 801dpi
but at the same time its a responsibility to carry this big device
on the other hand z5 is pretty hand with a bit smaller screen
if you have deskjob and you spend most of the time indoors then go for z5p
if your more outgoing/sport/ athelete type person! got for Z5
Thank you for answering, I'll have that in mind
As a previous Z2, currently Z5 Premium and also many Sony accessories owner, my humble advise is: don't buy Sony.
Not that they are bad phones in any way, however as a company, Sony can not catch up with the competition and doesn't listen to the customers.
A couple of examples:
1) DRM thing. If you happen to root your phone they say it is out of warranty and some "special" code which improves camera, screen and sound quality is lost, forever! Sure there are workarounds for these DRM keys but this doesn't chance the fact that Sony is not being developer friendly here. Also, remember the guy who sued Apple and won? The court has decided that "the software which was bought with the hardware, is fully belonged to the customer and the customer is free to customize it". So, Sony dictating us NOT to root or live without an important-ish code, which I pay for when buying the phone, is nothing but only being disrespectful to the customer.
2) camera problem. As you probably noticed, Sony phones have the highest Megapixel cameras out there. We'll, that's just a gimmick. Every Sony phone's superior auto mode shoots at 8mp. Sony also suggests that we should use 8mp whether it's superior auto or - so called- manual shooting. As a camera manufacturer, Sony sells cameras to other companies and most of them flat out come with 16mp, without any advise for a lower resolution shooting. The reason to that is, if you compare a 23mp manual shot with an 8mp manual shot at mid or low light conditions, you'll notice that there is almost no difference. Only that, the 23mp shot is bigger in size and can be zoomed more, which gives you noting but a pastel noise. In addition to that, Sony never shares its true driver for camera, rendering 3rd party camera apps almost useless as they can only register 8mp wide screen and 3.15mp 4:3 shooting mode.
Sony will never admit the truth, but my educated guess is, the sensor has to share some resources while recording the light and colors, thus making it technically save it in 23mp but physically capable of intaking enough light and real life data only for a highest quality 8mp shot. This is why 23mp clear sky shot in the morning will be good quality but a low light shot will suffer and be even lower quality than 16mp cameras. At 8mp level, it is unrivaled though.
Again, that leaves us, customers in a fooled point. Technically Sony is not lying, but also not delivering what is expected. Nowadays, Sony's only advantage to a 12-13mp Pixel or iPhone 7+ is a wide angle FOV. nothing else.
3) screen thing. We, Z5 Premium owners have an 4K screen who runs at 1080p due to the heating and battery concerns. It only converts to true 4K with supported Sony apps. Rivals switched to the 1440p already. Full time 1440p. Japanese people try to understand market's demands so rookiely here, they simply think offering a potentially higher resolution screen will attract the customers. But again, this puts them into a lower moral position than even Apple's. Look at Oneplus, they do their best for a budget screen and make it 1080p, the premium rivals like Google and LG make theirs' 1440p and Android fully supports it. Sony is already a great screen manufacturer, why try gimmicks like that? I mean with their already present screen quality they could easily produce the best 1080p screen out there and market it "being the best of everything: screen quality, battery preserving, heat reducing, and with the clearest whites". Instead they make a 4K screen which only runs at 4K when selected few apps are used. The rest of the time it is 1080p.
Sony don't have a leading behavior in the market either. So it can not make it's rivals jealous and switch to 4K, in order to adapt Android world into 4K rapidly. They simply don't have that influence, actually I believe next Sony phone will be 4K+ resolution with 2:1 ratio..
4) development support problem. Developers actually love companies who are developer friendly. Sony is the only company who release an AOSP code for almost every phone they release, also all of their phones come with lockable bootloader. Yet, they lag when it comes to kernel, Rom, mod etc. support. Somehow developers won't prefer Sony phones. Hell, they even fight with unlockable and frustrating Samsungs and don't show love for Sony for some reason.
Well, I trust these guys. They are giving people, who use their free time to make things better and share it with us for freely, and also sit here and respond to our never ending problems. If they don't prefer Sony most if the time I say they know something.
So, long story short; I am holding a phone in my hands right now. It has a super screen, nice build quality and good sound for music. Also comes with good battery life, dual speakers etc. But I can't trust the company behind it for the future. I can't use 3rd party camera apps, I can't use the full quality of the screen, camera and sound with my desired ROM, I can't use it to its full performance without it slowing down due to heating easily... Also, there are totally visible touch modules in the best screen of the world!
I will enjoy this phone till it's old enough, but then I'll never buy a Sony product again, as Sony is the only Japanese in the world who lost my respect. It'll go right next to Samsung in my blacklist..
Hey all,
Been away from sony phones for a little bit, but got an XZ premium from my carrier, and am pretty impressed with it. Loving the screen, form factor, etc.
Have some questions before jumping into customs roms and stuff.
1. When you unlock bootloader now, is there still a loss of DRM? - is there a way to manage this?
2. I noticed the ported Pixel 2 camera app doesnt seem to work without some further adjustments / mods. For those that have done it, is there significant improvement? Side by side with my HTC U11, the XZP looks comparable initially, but cropping or zooming in, there is a big loss of sharpness and clarity. Seems Sony's processing still isnt top notch - Does the Pixel camera app do any better? (the front camera is better tho!)
3. If one was to wish to return to full stock, is EMMA still the best/easiest way? - do DRM keys return?
4. In a custom ROM, I'd be looking for something near stock in look and feel, improved battery management, better camera experience (via 2 or some other tweaks), wide VoLTE support. ANy recommendations to look at?
cheers!
Yes you will loss DRM keys but there is a DRM fix
sephstyler said:
Hey all,
Been away from sony phones for a little bit, but got an XZ premium from my carrier, and am pretty impressed with it. Loving the screen, form factor, etc.
Have some questions before jumping into customs roms and stuff.
1. When you unlock bootloader now, is there still a loss of DRM? - is there a way to manage this?
2. I noticed the ported Pixel 2 camera app doesnt seem to work without some further adjustments / mods. For those that have done it, is there significant improvement? Side by side with my HTC U11, the XZP looks comparable initially, but cropping or zooming in, there is a big loss of sharpness and clarity. Seems Sony's processing still isnt top notch - Does the Pixel camera app do any better? (the front camera is better tho!)
3. If one was to wish to return to full stock, is EMMA still the best/easiest way? - do DRM keys return?
4. In a custom ROM, I'd be looking for something near stock in look and feel, improved battery management, better camera experience (via 2 or some other tweaks), wide VoLTE support. ANy recommendations to look at?
cheers!
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Hi,
1- There is a patch that sToRm // you can use it without any fear;
2- For the camera, personally, I find it well, I had no problem with it;
3- If you want to come back in stock rom, there is no better than xperirm (you can flash it with new flash);
4- For sony devices there is no better than a rom stock, for other custom roms, personally, i don' like them.
Oh, there was a typo in title, *than
One of the main reason I installed AOSP while breaking my drm is, Google Camera HDR+ makes Xperia Cameras wonderful too
There were several actual photos took by xperia with google camera, so I thought my phone's camera would get great too
However, the photos that I took with my XZP are noisy, and all the small details like small letters got away.
I guess it might be because of broken DRM, since it disables noise reduction function of the camera, but then how can others get better photos with their rooted xperia with google camera.
Do you guys know if there's a solution for this?
Actually I started to regret I shouldn't unlock my phone and keep using it as stock, but my DRM's already gone and DRM fix is just a temporal solution... since my DRM's gone forever.
It's not that bad with my phone, but maybe settings have something to do with it. HDR makes it sharper for some reason and I use:
Support level override: NEXUS_2015
Config Camera: Pixel 2017 (DR Dogfood)
HDR+ burst frame count: 8
The rest is probably default. But you can always return to stock and use storm's drm hack, then you have the normal quality camera again.
I've tried that settings, but the result stays noisy too
It seems like there's no way to improve image quality of XZP
If you install AOSP rom to use Google HDR+, the phone will kill the noise reduction so the result gets terribly noisy since DRMfix doesn't support stock based roms.
If you install Sony stock based roms, you can't use Google HDR+ due to lack of camera 2 API support.
Also as AOSP with Google camera yields worse outcome than stock rom, maybe it's really pointless thing to unlock your XZP to get better image qualities.
But it's too late to regret because my DRM has gone forever.
well you dont have to feel bad true that you lost your own drm keys but installing stock based rom with drm fix is the same as official stock and even smoother and better optimized plus you get all the cool features of root so a guy like you gets the root and drm fix that works the same as official and a guy like me is in official drm but bored cuz its not rooted so in both ways there is a compromise..
as I already said, sony has the best hardware on a device. EVER!
4k HRD? 120hz screen thats MAD but cant use it XD
sony cameras are sold to all companies cuz its the best but they use scripts to make it look worse (on purpose in my opinion)
in other words, sony cares about other companies cuz they make them a lot more money than their customers and as I heard they have a contract with other companies that uses their camera and sony is not allowed to make a device that has better cameras and they dont care you know why? cuz other companies make them ALOT MORE money than their own customers.
and advertising the device as it has 4k that doesnt work all the time, and a surprisingly 120hz support that is useless and a good camera (that sucks cuz of their own software) is just LOW of sony to do! promising cool features that exist but never actually having to use them is just FOR ADVERTISEMENT PURPOSE this is my last device from sony unless its a high end video camera from sony then yes, but other than that, sony is not worth it...