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Hi there,
got the D6603 Z3 and compared it to my girlfriends Z2. The camera of the Z2 looks much better than from my Z3.
Thought it is the same hardware in both phones. Tried in automatic and manual mode with same settings and got a lot of frame drops on Z3. On Z2 everythings looks sharper an run smoother.
Any ideas?
fknpwned said:
Hi there,
got the D6603 Z3 and compared it to my girlfriends Z2. The camera of the Z2 looks much better than from my Z3.
Thought it is the same hardware in both phones. Tried in automatic and manual mode with same settings and got a lot of frame drops on Z3. On Z2 everythings looks sharper an run smoother.
Any ideas?
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do you have advanced power saving on?
Funny enough i to havent been very impressed with the camera although i never had a z2 so cant compare but i came from a htc one so expected a huge improvement! Its not bad by any means but it just doesnt seem as sharp as i was expecting! And background focus rarely works , Its alot trickier then it appears when seen in reviews!
Bäcker said:
do you have advanced power saving on?
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No.
Yeah, i got the z3c. Its underwhelming for sure. Never played with a z2 say cant say anything about that. Anybody find good cam settings for their z3 (or z3c, same hardware i believe)?
Manual, 15mp, auto iso, image stabilisation off, metering spot, focus mode touch.
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fknpwned said:
Hi there,
got the D6603 Z3 and compared it to my girlfriends Z2. The camera of the Z2 looks much better than from my Z3.
Thought it is the same hardware in both phones. Tried in automatic and manual mode with same settings and got a lot of frame drops on Z3. On Z2 everythings looks sharper an run smoother.
Any ideas?
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the Android 4.4.2 on Xperia Z2 is more stable than new 4.4.4 on Xperia Z3
it always happen for all phone that because there is firmware update
Connect you Z3 to PC companion & Repair firmware
then check the camera
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Check both Camera (Z2 with Z3) with same setting
1. both superior mode
2. then set manual setting and compare
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Funny enough I had the same problem with my Xperia Z1.
Image quality was worse than my previous Z at first but after a firmware update it was fixed.
Probably the same issue here.
In order to make the image looks better in the viewfinder,Z3 let the ISO not the highest like Z2
this change makes shutter speed slow,and fps decrease.
you can notice that viewfinder's image quality in Z3 at a low light environment much better than Z2
corallus said:
Manual, 15mp, auto iso, image stabilisation off, metering spot, focus mode touch.
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Hey corrallus,
Do you or anyone on here know how to make Manual the DEFAULT setting when you first activate the Camera app instead of Superior Auto? Lemme know if you do.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
I don't think that's possible yet without root RockStar2005, it is definately a big annoyance. I have ruined a few photos by not realizing/forgetting I have to keep setting manual after opening via button.
Ok thanks abhinav! The one person on xda said if you use Xperia Home Launcher it has the option on the home screen right of the default one to do this, but I use Nova Launcher, so I just have to deal with it too. lol But if you use Xperia Launcher, you may wanna read that post (#3).
I'm not really concerned with the finished product; both Z2 and Z3 produce fotos of a quality much higher than I would really need.
What bothers me, is how much the Z3 slows down to take a picture. I'm currently playing with Cyanogen 11 and the camera app launches instantaneously and takes photos without lag; neither possible with Sony; super super ultra omega mode or otherwise.
Hi peeps,
I am not sure about you guys, but I am very happy abt Z3 camera and its features, I came from Z1 and the camera is good too!
I notice some did mention or some of my friends saying Sony camera suck and that the Z3 camera is not as good as samsung s3 or other brands bah bah bah....
But I asked, what Sony phones are you conparing with and what are the camera or display settings of the Z3 phones. Then I reliased the following issues
1) Some are using Xperia Z ultra to compare with Samsung S3. Z ultra only have 8 MP and no ISO settings so if u want to use a mid range camera to fight with a higher range phone who will lose out? Just like I used a 20MP Z3 with the same setting I will surely win...
He also mention the Z ultra camera pic cannot tell the color difference between white and yellowish white but when I took the same pic, with my Z3, he was shocked....
2) Z3 camera by default has set to 8/15 MP for 16:9. So the pic is not the best yet. You need to change the settings....
3) Off the HDR & Display Enhencment settings, u will see a better quality photo on screen and on PC...
4) If you are using matt, anti finger print or privacy screen protectors, please dont even bother to complain abt the screen quality.... You are using a few dollar to cover up 100 dollar stuff...
5) Only a few case is factory defects which need u to send out for repairs... Nothing is perfect just that u are the few unlucky ones to get a defected product...
I agree with you! I also don't have any complain about the camera at all. It performs well without a hitch. Superb quality and detail.
All I disagree with is the screen one. The screen isn't very good with or without a screen protector. Brightness at the expense of screen quality is a bad move.
z3- lg g3
Sony does not make fkus even after 10 times autofocus, lg g3 first picture is extra
warranty aside, what are the implication of unlocking the bootloader? I've read something about DRM keys being deleted but what are the effects of it? will the phone loss some of the feature it previously has?
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warranty aside, what are the implication of unlocking the bootloader? I've read something about DRM keys being deleted but what are the effects of it? will the phone loss some of the feature it previously has?
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I have been using a unlocked phone for a week now.. and I see no harmful effects
The only direct implication of that is your warranty is voided. That's it - you void it officially, yourself when you request the unlock code from Sony.
No changes in usability or workability.
thanks guys. can i get a little bit off topic?
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the power button of my phone feels a little bit fragile. is it normal? it feels like pressing a key on a keyboard.
edit: I just want to confirm whether if the power button is softer than other model. or is it a factory defect?
It is true that DRM keys are erased from Sony devices when unlocked. For flagship Z devices this includes DRM related to camera processing so image quality is reduced on unlocked phones.
However the 5mpx camera sensor in E3 is several orders of magnitude inferior to the 20mpx camera sensor in Z3.
Either this device does not include similar camera DRM or the sensor is so bad that it didn't make a difference anyway. I see zero difference in any part of an unlocked E3 running stock ROM.
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It is true that DRM keys are erased from Sony devices when unlocked. For flagship Z devices this includes DRM related to camera processing so image quality is reduced on unlocked phones.
However the 5mpx camera sensor in E3 is several orders of magnitude inferior to the 20mpx camera sensor in Z3.
Either this device does not include similar camera DRM or the sensor is so bad that it didn't make a difference anyway. I see zero difference in any part of an unlocked E3 running stock ROM.
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yeah i ulockedbootloader and able to run all sony apps like walkman ar effects
Hey,
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot.
I'm wondering if it's worth to change my phone, I've been using the Xperia Z3 since 3 years and I'm thinking about moving into Z5.
Would it be a good move? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks in advance!
honest truth for me, i would love to go back to my Z3 only cause of the battery life. like for like use i would get a day and half with the Z3 and now i barely make it to a full day.
i would probably look at one of the newer Sony's at least that way support will be there for a little while longer as well.
Doesn't agree with you, I'm running SlimX Custom ROM With Xposed + Amplify, Doze, Greenify ect..
I managed to customize my energy consumption using kernel Auditor and my z5 is now fully adapted to my everyday task and usage, my battery is way more efficient than when I was running stock
Malerovi said:
Hey,
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot.
I'm wondering if it's worth to change my phone, I've been using the Xperia Z3 since 3 years and I'm thinking about moving into Z5.
Would it be a good move? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks in advance!
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z5 has added features like 4k screen and better battery but the device heats and shows battery drainage if its not rooted and you haven't customized it accordingly! also z5 screen brightness has been kept lower than z3 so during day time you may face visibility issues
i would suggest if you wana upgrade try considering XZs or upcoming XZP having better 4g connectivity with 4 inbuilt antennas and snadragon 835 process
YasuHamed said:
i would suggest if you wana upgrade try considering XZs or upcoming XZP having better 4g connectivity with 4 inbuilt antennas and snadragon 835 process
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Thanks for your opinion.
By the way, what do you mean by XZs or XZP?
Malerovi said:
Thanks for your opinion.
By the way, what do you mean by XZs or XZP?
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the next generation of sony Xperia
Xperia XZs (released)
Xperia XZP (forthcoming)
At first I thought I decided wrong but now let say u use marshmallow, xposed grenify u won't regret it. I moved to stock nougat and it is great, just waiting for xposed
But I agree with colleagues here, take a look at XZ premium
The Xperia Z 5 Premium? the Dual sim one¿?
If that's it, it's around 450USD in my country, way cheap according to the normal Z5
Malerovi said:
The Xperia Z 5 Premium? the Dual sim one¿?
If that's it, it's around 450USD in my country, way cheap according to the normal Z5
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No Z5 premium, but XZ Premium it is not realeased yet.
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
Malerovi said:
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
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If you need two sims get dual sim, otherwise no need for dual sim.
But for that money you should get OnePlus 3T, which is 10 times better,
Malerovi said:
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
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Z5P is bigger screen 4k support device and amazing 801dpi
but at the same time its a responsibility to carry this big device
on the other hand z5 is pretty hand with a bit smaller screen
if you have deskjob and you spend most of the time indoors then go for z5p
if your more outgoing/sport/ athelete type person! got for Z5
Thank you for answering, I'll have that in mind
As a previous Z2, currently Z5 Premium and also many Sony accessories owner, my humble advise is: don't buy Sony.
Not that they are bad phones in any way, however as a company, Sony can not catch up with the competition and doesn't listen to the customers.
A couple of examples:
1) DRM thing. If you happen to root your phone they say it is out of warranty and some "special" code which improves camera, screen and sound quality is lost, forever! Sure there are workarounds for these DRM keys but this doesn't chance the fact that Sony is not being developer friendly here. Also, remember the guy who sued Apple and won? The court has decided that "the software which was bought with the hardware, is fully belonged to the customer and the customer is free to customize it". So, Sony dictating us NOT to root or live without an important-ish code, which I pay for when buying the phone, is nothing but only being disrespectful to the customer.
2) camera problem. As you probably noticed, Sony phones have the highest Megapixel cameras out there. We'll, that's just a gimmick. Every Sony phone's superior auto mode shoots at 8mp. Sony also suggests that we should use 8mp whether it's superior auto or - so called- manual shooting. As a camera manufacturer, Sony sells cameras to other companies and most of them flat out come with 16mp, without any advise for a lower resolution shooting. The reason to that is, if you compare a 23mp manual shot with an 8mp manual shot at mid or low light conditions, you'll notice that there is almost no difference. Only that, the 23mp shot is bigger in size and can be zoomed more, which gives you noting but a pastel noise. In addition to that, Sony never shares its true driver for camera, rendering 3rd party camera apps almost useless as they can only register 8mp wide screen and 3.15mp 4:3 shooting mode.
Sony will never admit the truth, but my educated guess is, the sensor has to share some resources while recording the light and colors, thus making it technically save it in 23mp but physically capable of intaking enough light and real life data only for a highest quality 8mp shot. This is why 23mp clear sky shot in the morning will be good quality but a low light shot will suffer and be even lower quality than 16mp cameras. At 8mp level, it is unrivaled though.
Again, that leaves us, customers in a fooled point. Technically Sony is not lying, but also not delivering what is expected. Nowadays, Sony's only advantage to a 12-13mp Pixel or iPhone 7+ is a wide angle FOV. nothing else.
3) screen thing. We, Z5 Premium owners have an 4K screen who runs at 1080p due to the heating and battery concerns. It only converts to true 4K with supported Sony apps. Rivals switched to the 1440p already. Full time 1440p. Japanese people try to understand market's demands so rookiely here, they simply think offering a potentially higher resolution screen will attract the customers. But again, this puts them into a lower moral position than even Apple's. Look at Oneplus, they do their best for a budget screen and make it 1080p, the premium rivals like Google and LG make theirs' 1440p and Android fully supports it. Sony is already a great screen manufacturer, why try gimmicks like that? I mean with their already present screen quality they could easily produce the best 1080p screen out there and market it "being the best of everything: screen quality, battery preserving, heat reducing, and with the clearest whites". Instead they make a 4K screen which only runs at 4K when selected few apps are used. The rest of the time it is 1080p.
Sony don't have a leading behavior in the market either. So it can not make it's rivals jealous and switch to 4K, in order to adapt Android world into 4K rapidly. They simply don't have that influence, actually I believe next Sony phone will be 4K+ resolution with 2:1 ratio..
4) development support problem. Developers actually love companies who are developer friendly. Sony is the only company who release an AOSP code for almost every phone they release, also all of their phones come with lockable bootloader. Yet, they lag when it comes to kernel, Rom, mod etc. support. Somehow developers won't prefer Sony phones. Hell, they even fight with unlockable and frustrating Samsungs and don't show love for Sony for some reason.
Well, I trust these guys. They are giving people, who use their free time to make things better and share it with us for freely, and also sit here and respond to our never ending problems. If they don't prefer Sony most if the time I say they know something.
So, long story short; I am holding a phone in my hands right now. It has a super screen, nice build quality and good sound for music. Also comes with good battery life, dual speakers etc. But I can't trust the company behind it for the future. I can't use 3rd party camera apps, I can't use the full quality of the screen, camera and sound with my desired ROM, I can't use it to its full performance without it slowing down due to heating easily... Also, there are totally visible touch modules in the best screen of the world!
I will enjoy this phone till it's old enough, but then I'll never buy a Sony product again, as Sony is the only Japanese in the world who lost my respect. It'll go right next to Samsung in my blacklist..
hi guys, new to this platform so go easy on me.. please can you advise me. years ago i used to unlock and flash phones, a long time ago. i want to degoogle my sony xz ,kagura .please can you tell me if its even possible first, if so where do i look, any insight..
many thanks for your time
Hi, check over in your device forums here (be careful what you end up removing):
Sony Xperia XZ
The Sony Xperia XZ is similar in many ways to the Xperia X Performance, but offers an updated design and a better camera. Specifically, the camera utilizes three sensors, including the 23MP image sensor itself, laser autofocus, and RGBC-IR. This helps to quicken focus, improve contrast, and...
forum.xda-developers.com
galaxys said:
Hi, check over in your device forums here (be careful what you end up removing):
Sony Xperia XZ
The Sony Xperia XZ is similar in many ways to the Xperia X Performance, but offers an updated design and a better camera. Specifically, the camera utilizes three sensors, including the 23MP image sensor itself, laser autofocus, and RGBC-IR. This helps to quicken focus, improve contrast, and...
forum.xda-developers.com
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ok my friend thats great..cheers..james