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I am going to get either the Xperia or the Omnia, the only question is which. I would like opinions from others please.
Thanks in advance.
Personally I'd choose Touch Pro.
it really depend on if you want a keyboard or not as on xperia got one
and higher screen res but lower mpixel cam
but some rumors say that xperia may not get released untill feb 2009
FYI...here's the so called official omnia thread for info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400313
Thanks for the info galaxys
the camera - Samsung cameras (on phones) are never as good as Sony Ericsson or even LG. Even the G800 with it's so-called 'optical zoom' is rubbish.
Last Christmas I had a LG Viewty, Sony Ericsson K850i and Samsung G800. The K850i camera was much better, even better than the N95 camera.
And yes, I know how to use a camera, and what exposure and focus to use.
The 16 gb version of the Omnia is only being released in the US.
xperia hands down
aameerp said:
the camera - Samsung cameras (on phones) are never as good as Sony Ericsson or even LG. Even the G800 with it's so-called 'optical zoom' is rubbish.
Last Christmas I had a LG Viewty, Sony Ericsson K850i and Samsung G800. The K850i camera was much better, even better than the N95 camera.
And yes, I know how to use a camera, and what exposure and focus to use.
The 16 gb version of the Omnia is only being released in the US.
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But Xperia will be produced by HTC. Then we do not know if it will have a great Sony Ericsson's CCD matrix or poor HTC's CMOS matrix. There is no point in this discussion until we see any pictures taken by it.
hm?
comparison at theunwired
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But Xperia will be produced by HTC. Then we do not know if it will have a great Sony Ericsson's CCD matrix or poor HTC's CMOS matrix. There is no point in this discussion until we see any pictures taken by it.
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What ? Which source mention this ? How do you know that Xperia will be under HTC development? Did SE joined forces with HTC on Xperia platform ?
Check this out about camera and picture quality among these phones : http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=289
Xperia will be availiable in Sweden since mid of October.
I vote for the HD definetly!
the 16 gig omnia was on orange but im not sure if it still is
i have it
the camera is **** hot
Sony the one and only...
when my Uni dies,(not any time soon) i will probably look at the X1 as long as Sony supports this phone it should be pretty good. I'm not a fan of sliders but I have to have a key board the TV out is also a cool feature and who knows maybe a mini Blue-Ray recorder,lol,. Dual expansion slots would've helped since I have a bunch of Memory-sticks collecting dust
i have both omnia n xperia and i must say,omnia kick xperia's ass big time...why u ask?? here's why...
*note:comparison are based on out of box experience.
1)accelerometer based applications + games rules,
2)camera rules,camera features like face detection,smile detection,mutiple scenery mode,lanscape mode,business card scanner,5mp still can zoom in(xperia 3mp but cannot zoom,only can zoom at 2mp settings & below)
3)samsung provide on going official firmware update
4)"end user" provide on going custom firmware update
5)omnia code like *#0002*28346# allow volume cuztomisation.So far there's no such code for xperia volume hack yet.but i could be wrong
6)built in 8gb or 16gb memory.(dun even need a micro sd card anymore)
7)omnia widget is far more useful compare to xperia panel(especially the stupid fish panel)
8)Taking pics with xperia is a pain!! camera shutter speed is too slow.really need a super steady hand to take decent pics or else pics will blurr!!
well, these are my personal experience with both phones.....cheers...sorry for bad english.. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
thx al3xband for the comments.. I still struggling between xperia and omnia. Prefer Xperia coz it is from SE, have keyboard but the price too exp. Now wonder if I shall get a white color Omnia from Singtelshop...
hello brother.........
today i want to ask queation about camera of tipo....xperia ion have 1.3MP front camera.....and our tipo has 3.0 or 3.2 (don't know which one)
but ion's front camera is much better then our tipo......how ...i observe it on my friend's xperia ion
some please clear my doubt
Its back camera...
gagu.436425 said:
hello brother.........
today i want to ask queation about camera of tipo....xperia ion have 1.3MP front camera.....and our tipo has 3.0 or 3.2 (don't know which one)
but ion's front camera is much better then our tipo......how ...i observe it on my friend's xperia ion
some please clear my doubt
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tipo's back camera is 3.15 MP...
ShivangDave said:
tipo's back camera is 3.15 MP...
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The camera on the Tipo is pretty crappy. I recently looked at photos taken on a 3-year-old Nokia phone (S60 Symbian) and my Tipo on a large computer screen. The two phone cameras have nominally exactly the same number of pixels, 2048 x 1536 = 3.15 M, but the pictures from the Nokia were a lot sharper. The Tipo photos looked quite blurry in comparison. All were taken in good daylight. I don't know the exact Nokia model, and I don't have that phone handy. It was priced similarly to the Tipo, but 3 years ago.
The camera on the Tipo is basically only suitable for emergency snapshots when you don't have anything better handy, and even then only in daylight. There's effectively no low-light capability at all, and no flash. You do kinda get what you pay for. Of course, some might like the blur and wonky white balance as an artistic effect
I already know that the tipo has 3mp
I want to know that what is the difference between ion's front camera and tipo's back camera because ion's front camera's picture quality is better then tipo
Price is the main difference... use of better hardware and all that...
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I've been a long time Xperia user. Currently have the Z3 and plan to move up to XZ. The Z3 camera is a so so. Beaten by Samsung and iPhone easily. The Z3 is flare galore and I have 2 of them purchased at different times so it is not a sampling issue.
The Xperia XZ is now advertised as "Our camera know-how, in a smartphone". With all those fancy laser focus, high megapixels, and quick focus; yet, from the following review, iPhone 7 beats the XZ in terms of IQ and resolution. Resolution, at least, in the blue colors.
Please tell me the review above is incorrect and the XZ camera is at least comparable to iPhone 7.
From my experience with my XP vs iPhone 6 the iPhone almost always adheres true to the experience detailed in this video.
I would anticipate that the video comparison is true to past form which seemingly continues through to the XZ/iPhone7 stand off.
Unfortunate yes. Somehow iphone are always sh!tting on Sony's camera advances.
You'd be forgiven to think Sony would have the upper hand in atleast the camera department. But it's just not the case. Sure the XZ is going to have a great camera, but I would assume the conclusion from the video would remain true.
Albeit first hand comparisons are required to judge for self. Even then, unfortunately I foresee I'd probably end up concurring with the btekt guys conclusion (based on historical trends with what Sony and indeed iPhone bring to the table with each respective iteration.)
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Watching above video, I noticed that his xperia xz camera was in manual mode and not in default values because settings icon turned blue.
Pictures of low light seem over exposure with xperia. I don't think it was on default setting.
I doubt the video is unbiased. Just my cents.
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Sony just developed these new sensors.. and as always they need a lot of time to tweak the software in order for everything to work correctly and as it should. Basically it is happening with every sony device. So let's be patiend and see how the XZ is going to.. ''evolve''.
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Sony just developed these new sensors.. and as always they need a lot of time to tweak the software in order for everything to work correctly and as it should. Basically it is happening with every sony device. So let's be patiend and see how the XZ is going to.. ''evolve''.
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Exactly, it really does not seem to be "default" setting for Sony.
But will need to test low light pictures on my own to get the clue.
I know how it was with Z5, I really hope this time they are doing proper testing before putting it into the boxes...
I had never seen a sony phone that in it's first or second release rom the camera or overall experience is good. a couple or rom updates, and then it could give more fight.
Anyway, it's a shame that sony develop the iphone camera's sensors, but for own usage, they use (IHMO) the less good. OR, the camera software by sony is a crap.
In my experiences with Xperia videography (from Z2 onwards) it's best to deactivate Scene Autodetection because it stops camera software over-compensating when perhaps you don't want/need it to ...
Whilst I think the iPhone records superb video, so does my XP (and so did my Z2, Z3+, Z5C) ... I'd be hard pressed to tell you which is which in blind testing.
The XZ I have on order should only improve the Sony videography.
Also, have you tried recording stereo sound with your video on the iPhone? It's a hassle and can't be done without addons (I'm pretty sure the iPhone 7(+) still records monaural unless someone can correct me?)
Smartphone Photography belongs to Apple.
Smartphone Videography, the motion picture, *could* belong to Sony if they get their marketing right (and their thermals lol)
Can you change white balance settings (not just the tint) in video mode? There is a video on YouTube comparing it to the iPhone 6 Plus and the WB control on the XZ is terrible - it shifts whenever the camera moves to the tables while the iPhone is fairly stable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNFsnQg3cG8
It is a personal point of view but Sony is way better than 6s... At least for me and from this comparison.
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Camera review
A few things that occur to me with any cam comparison is what the photographers knowledge/skill is and, as mentioned above, what settings were used. Those things affect the final output of the camera. I try to determine if their knowledge/skill is similar to mine. Then I can determine if I could have possibly gotten a better picture or not in a similar situation.
Try to find comparison photos on the web from the cameras you want to compare. Make sure they're not altered and that you know what settings were used. Each phone has it's own signature on the picture and you may prefer a certain phone's "photo look" over another. Some phones are good in some conditions, some are better in others. Some are good overall, but not great in any one area. Determine what matters to you most.
Beyond the actual photo quality, there's the user experience that must also be considered. Focus speed, shutter responsiveness, app ease-of-use...that all makes a difference.
Iphone has better cameras. I'm ashamed of my 23megapixel camera
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Hey,
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot.
I'm wondering if it's worth to change my phone, I've been using the Xperia Z3 since 3 years and I'm thinking about moving into Z5.
Would it be a good move? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks in advance!
honest truth for me, i would love to go back to my Z3 only cause of the battery life. like for like use i would get a day and half with the Z3 and now i barely make it to a full day.
i would probably look at one of the newer Sony's at least that way support will be there for a little while longer as well.
Doesn't agree with you, I'm running SlimX Custom ROM With Xposed + Amplify, Doze, Greenify ect..
I managed to customize my energy consumption using kernel Auditor and my z5 is now fully adapted to my everyday task and usage, my battery is way more efficient than when I was running stock
Malerovi said:
Hey,
I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot.
I'm wondering if it's worth to change my phone, I've been using the Xperia Z3 since 3 years and I'm thinking about moving into Z5.
Would it be a good move? what are the pros and cons?
Thanks in advance!
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z5 has added features like 4k screen and better battery but the device heats and shows battery drainage if its not rooted and you haven't customized it accordingly! also z5 screen brightness has been kept lower than z3 so during day time you may face visibility issues
i would suggest if you wana upgrade try considering XZs or upcoming XZP having better 4g connectivity with 4 inbuilt antennas and snadragon 835 process
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i would suggest if you wana upgrade try considering XZs or upcoming XZP having better 4g connectivity with 4 inbuilt antennas and snadragon 835 process
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Thanks for your opinion.
By the way, what do you mean by XZs or XZP?
Malerovi said:
Thanks for your opinion.
By the way, what do you mean by XZs or XZP?
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the next generation of sony Xperia
Xperia XZs (released)
Xperia XZP (forthcoming)
At first I thought I decided wrong but now let say u use marshmallow, xposed grenify u won't regret it. I moved to stock nougat and it is great, just waiting for xposed
But I agree with colleagues here, take a look at XZ premium
The Xperia Z 5 Premium? the Dual sim one¿?
If that's it, it's around 450USD in my country, way cheap according to the normal Z5
Malerovi said:
The Xperia Z 5 Premium? the Dual sim one¿?
If that's it, it's around 450USD in my country, way cheap according to the normal Z5
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No Z5 premium, but XZ Premium it is not realeased yet.
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
Malerovi said:
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
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If you need two sims get dual sim, otherwise no need for dual sim.
But for that money you should get OnePlus 3T, which is 10 times better,
Malerovi said:
And between Z5 comun and Z5 Premi(dual), which one would u recommend guys?? I can get the E6853 (single sim) y E6833 Dual SIM, any of these for 450USD, NEW.
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Z5P is bigger screen 4k support device and amazing 801dpi
but at the same time its a responsibility to carry this big device
on the other hand z5 is pretty hand with a bit smaller screen
if you have deskjob and you spend most of the time indoors then go for z5p
if your more outgoing/sport/ athelete type person! got for Z5
Thank you for answering, I'll have that in mind
As a previous Z2, currently Z5 Premium and also many Sony accessories owner, my humble advise is: don't buy Sony.
Not that they are bad phones in any way, however as a company, Sony can not catch up with the competition and doesn't listen to the customers.
A couple of examples:
1) DRM thing. If you happen to root your phone they say it is out of warranty and some "special" code which improves camera, screen and sound quality is lost, forever! Sure there are workarounds for these DRM keys but this doesn't chance the fact that Sony is not being developer friendly here. Also, remember the guy who sued Apple and won? The court has decided that "the software which was bought with the hardware, is fully belonged to the customer and the customer is free to customize it". So, Sony dictating us NOT to root or live without an important-ish code, which I pay for when buying the phone, is nothing but only being disrespectful to the customer.
2) camera problem. As you probably noticed, Sony phones have the highest Megapixel cameras out there. We'll, that's just a gimmick. Every Sony phone's superior auto mode shoots at 8mp. Sony also suggests that we should use 8mp whether it's superior auto or - so called- manual shooting. As a camera manufacturer, Sony sells cameras to other companies and most of them flat out come with 16mp, without any advise for a lower resolution shooting. The reason to that is, if you compare a 23mp manual shot with an 8mp manual shot at mid or low light conditions, you'll notice that there is almost no difference. Only that, the 23mp shot is bigger in size and can be zoomed more, which gives you noting but a pastel noise. In addition to that, Sony never shares its true driver for camera, rendering 3rd party camera apps almost useless as they can only register 8mp wide screen and 3.15mp 4:3 shooting mode.
Sony will never admit the truth, but my educated guess is, the sensor has to share some resources while recording the light and colors, thus making it technically save it in 23mp but physically capable of intaking enough light and real life data only for a highest quality 8mp shot. This is why 23mp clear sky shot in the morning will be good quality but a low light shot will suffer and be even lower quality than 16mp cameras. At 8mp level, it is unrivaled though.
Again, that leaves us, customers in a fooled point. Technically Sony is not lying, but also not delivering what is expected. Nowadays, Sony's only advantage to a 12-13mp Pixel or iPhone 7+ is a wide angle FOV. nothing else.
3) screen thing. We, Z5 Premium owners have an 4K screen who runs at 1080p due to the heating and battery concerns. It only converts to true 4K with supported Sony apps. Rivals switched to the 1440p already. Full time 1440p. Japanese people try to understand market's demands so rookiely here, they simply think offering a potentially higher resolution screen will attract the customers. But again, this puts them into a lower moral position than even Apple's. Look at Oneplus, they do their best for a budget screen and make it 1080p, the premium rivals like Google and LG make theirs' 1440p and Android fully supports it. Sony is already a great screen manufacturer, why try gimmicks like that? I mean with their already present screen quality they could easily produce the best 1080p screen out there and market it "being the best of everything: screen quality, battery preserving, heat reducing, and with the clearest whites". Instead they make a 4K screen which only runs at 4K when selected few apps are used. The rest of the time it is 1080p.
Sony don't have a leading behavior in the market either. So it can not make it's rivals jealous and switch to 4K, in order to adapt Android world into 4K rapidly. They simply don't have that influence, actually I believe next Sony phone will be 4K+ resolution with 2:1 ratio..
4) development support problem. Developers actually love companies who are developer friendly. Sony is the only company who release an AOSP code for almost every phone they release, also all of their phones come with lockable bootloader. Yet, they lag when it comes to kernel, Rom, mod etc. support. Somehow developers won't prefer Sony phones. Hell, they even fight with unlockable and frustrating Samsungs and don't show love for Sony for some reason.
Well, I trust these guys. They are giving people, who use their free time to make things better and share it with us for freely, and also sit here and respond to our never ending problems. If they don't prefer Sony most if the time I say they know something.
So, long story short; I am holding a phone in my hands right now. It has a super screen, nice build quality and good sound for music. Also comes with good battery life, dual speakers etc. But I can't trust the company behind it for the future. I can't use 3rd party camera apps, I can't use the full quality of the screen, camera and sound with my desired ROM, I can't use it to its full performance without it slowing down due to heating easily... Also, there are totally visible touch modules in the best screen of the world!
I will enjoy this phone till it's old enough, but then I'll never buy a Sony product again, as Sony is the only Japanese in the world who lost my respect. It'll go right next to Samsung in my blacklist..
hello Guys
I have registered today,
So there is a project of i'm thinking about
Recently i bought an Xperia XZ (second hand). It's camera has a fault inside (working but a imaging fault). Before i buying it, i was following that XZ, XZs and XZ1 camera's switching inside...
As far as i know, XZ and XZs has only 2 diffirences:
1. Camera module,
2. +1 gb ram
AND as my researches from internet, XZ and XZs has identical housing, motherboard design, battery.... etc.
Z5, X, XZ ==> Almost Same camera, i am pretty sure they can be swap and work perfectly,
I have currently Z3c and Z1c and tried to swap cameras, they are working perfectly. Tried z2 camera too, it working too. ( I highly recommend to replace z1-z1c-z2 camera modules with Z3/Z3+, it is worth for it)
XZs, XZ1, XZ2 ==> Almost same module as far as i saw from internet. And must be using same sensor IMX 400
And with the XZ2's software, XZ2 is more successful that XZ1 and XZs... I don't know anything more. There is no OIS until the Xperia 1 phone.
MY questions, is anyone tried switching XZ camera Module to with XZs, XZ1, XZ-Premium Camere Module?
If no one did it and if i do it, will you help in software part?
Also i will chance my battery, do you recommend any seller? In my country battery about 10.5-11 dolars, and camera module is 11 dolars too. My battery Health is %88
Thank you for kind answers
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hello Guys
I have registered today,
So there is a project of i'm thinking about
Recently i bought an Xperia XZ (second hand). It's camera has a fault inside (working but a imaging fault). Before i buying it, i was following that XZ, XZs and XZ1 camera's switching inside...
As far as i know, XZ and XZs has only 2 diffirences:
1. Camera module,
2. +1 gb ram
AND as my researches from internet, XZ and XZs has identical housing, motherboard design, battery.... etc.
Z5, X, XZ ==> Almost Same camera, i am pretty sure they can be swap and work perfectly,
I have currently Z3c and Z1c and tried to swap cameras, they are working perfectly. Tried z2 camera too, it working too. ( I highly recommend to replace z1-z1c-z2 camera modules with Z3/Z3+, it is worth for it)
XZs, XZ1, XZ2 ==> Almost same module as far as i saw from internet. And must be using same sensor IMX 400
And with the XZ2's software, XZ2 is more successful that XZ1 and XZs... I don't know anything more. There is no OIS until the Xperia 1 phone.
MY questions, is anyone tried switching XZ camera Module to with XZs, XZ1, XZ-Premium Camere Module?
If no one did it and if i do it, will you help in software part?
Also i will chance my battery, do you recommend any seller? In my country battery about 10.5-11 dolars, and camera module is 11 dolars too. My battery Health is %88
Thank you for kind answers
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Hi bro
A while ago I had seen this
https://youtu.be/50VcrOKJnN4
Really I cant decide what camera work best.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....z5-family-unlocked-xz-xc-camera-t3463148/amp/
try this
Update over a decade
Now finally i have bought an item (xperia Xz1 camera module) and tried it...
It turns out that, Xperia Xz boot looping with XZ1 camera module. It is weird...
I am gonna flash XZs stock rom to XZ
Now the Videos: (sorry for my bad english)
This is the one i tried the XZ1 camera module (19 mp) on XZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkkQFLxSGbA
And this is the with stock camera module (23 mp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoq6Xy9tCmM
XZ vs XZ1 modules differences by photos. As you can see there are electricly visiable differences.