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Greenify: someone use it on N5? What are the apps it's hibernate?

I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?

I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?

Han Solo 1 said:
I'm not sure what the point of Greenify is then. If you can't greenify the apps you need, like Gmail, texts, etc., then how is battery life saved?
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geenify all the other crappily written apps that you install. if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor. there are plenty of other apps that start up without you opening them that can be greenified.

simms22 said:
if you greenify apps like gmail, you wont get your email in a timely manor.
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Have you tested that? I haven't but push notifications should wake up Gmail.
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stremax said:
I use it, and I'm pretty satisfied, you can theoretically hibernate all the apps you want, but is not good with apps need too synching like emails, chat, messenger and apps wich you have widgets, otherwise they will not work properly
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I agree that it's not good with apps with widgets on the home screen because the author of Greenify specify it, but I not agree for apps that need synchronization/notifications like emails, chat, messenger because it they use GCM (Google Cloud Messaging) they can be hibernated without lose push notifications!
I doubt only with system apps...

I have greenified quite everything that does not provide notification.

I use it for Facebook and Netflix, that helped my battery tremendously.

I used to use Greenify on my HTC One. I'd hibernate everything that wasn't 'system' and thought it was doing some good. Then I discovered that I was actually getting better battery life WITHOUT using it, so I don't really believe that it does any good.

To reiterate what others have said, I use to Greenify to hibernate any apps that aren't pushing me notifications. I'm honestly not sure if I see a huge difference in battery because it could be a number of things from changing ROMs or updating kernels, etc. But one thing for sure is that I'm actually pretty satisfied with the battery life on my N5. With the N4 I would be lucky to last me to dinner, but now I have plenty of battery to spare by the time I'm passing out in bed.
So I guess Greenify can potentially help battery life, but it's definitely not the answer to a magically longer lasting battery.

maxwarp79 said:
I personally believe that the main weakness of the Nexus 5 is battery life. After trying for about a week the official app of Qualcomm Snapdragon BatteryGuru (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app) without becoming satisfied (I have not found significant improvements, may have only a placebo effect), I switched to Greenify (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify) with the Donation Package.
Do some of you use it? Users comments on Play Store seem excited (so I decided to try the paid version).
The paid version also allows you to hibernate the system apps, but I have not enabled this function (and would therefore be excluded almost all Google Apps), according to you should enable this option? Or rather, what are the apps that should hibernate / greenify?
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Greenify is excellent. But using Greenify without knowing the cause of the problem isn't going to fix anything. Think of it as a bandaid. A bandaid for poorly written (usually intentionally) apps. Facebook comes to mind.
It won't greenify system apps without using Xposed (which doesn't work with ART). These system apps, Gmail, Chrome, Keep (I froze all the other junk Google apps), are actually pretty well behaved these days (they had huge issues in the past).
I think that with KitKat, Greenify has lost some of it's usefulness, with how aggressive KK is in killing off unused apps.
The app you should be downloading is BetterBatteryStats. Upload some logs for us, and most likely we can fix the problem for you. When the cause of the problem is determined, you can then choose the best course of action yourself.
The battery on the N5 is fine. I ran a BBS log while I was sleeping. After 6ish hours, the usage was 0.1% per hour. I would say anywhere between 0.1-0.4 is good. Wifi and mobile network, doesn't matter much if connection is solid.

anyways, greenify is not there to help battery, its there to have more free ram. but it can potentially help battery if you are running apps that open themselves and drain battery, like that aweful facebook app.

Get the most out of your battery when the phone is idle!!

Hi Everyone,
I have been using Atrix 2 for past 2 years and never ever got such battery backup in last two years, so I thought of starting this thread so that others can get better battery life.
I have tried lots of tricks, apps, tweaks for better battery life but the following settings helped me to get more than 30 hours of backup on daily basis.
As I am writing this thread, my phone is on battery since 1 day 14 hours with 4 hours 6 mins screen on time, voice calls 1 hour 49 mins, wifi on 8 hours:laugh:!!!
I have noticed that Google Play services and Play store are the culprits behind the wakelocks that cause battery drain even when your phone is idle! So I decided to freeze them as per my convenience I unfreeze them and its been so easy thanks to Titanium Backups widget.
Just follow the below mentioned steps:
1.You must have a rooted phone.
2.Install Titanium Backup and Greenify (Greenify is used for hibernating the apps which stops them from running in background. Greenify the apps as per your need))
3. Convert Google play services to user app using TB.
4.Place a TB widget (Action widget) and select the action "Freeze/Defrost/Launch an app", select Google play services and you are done. Repeat the same process for Play store.(Note that you will not get any Gmail/FB notifications while freezed).
Now you can use the Google play services/ play store when needed, you have to just tap on the widget to freeze/unfreeze, and take my word you will be more than happy with battery backup you will get after doing these small tricks.
Enjoy!!!

Atrix2dBeast said:
Hi Everyone,
I have been using Atrix 2 for past 2 years and never ever got such battery backup in last two years, so I thought of starting this thread so that others can get better battery life.
I have lots of tricks, apps, tweaks for better battery life but the following settings helped me to get more than 30 hours of backup on daily basis.
As I am writing this thread, my phone is on battery since 1 day 14 hours with 4 hours 6 mins screen on time, voice calls 1 hour 49 mins, wifi on 8 hours:laugh:!!!
I have noticed that Google Play services and Play store are the culprits behind the wakelocks that cause battery drain even when your phone is idle! So I decided to freeze them as per my convenience I unfreeze them and its been so easy thanks to Titanium Backups widget.
Just follow the below mentioned steps:
1.You must have a rooted phone.
2.Install Titanium Backup and Greenify (Greenify is used for hibernating the apps which stops them from running in background. Greenify the apps as per your need))
3. Convert Google play services to user app using TB.
4.Place a TB widget (Action widget) and select the action "Freeze/Defrost/Launch an app", select Google play services and you are done. Repeat the same process for Play store.(Note that you will not get any Gmail/FB notifications while freezed).
Now you can use the Google play services/ play store when needed, you have to just tap on the widget to freeze/unfreeze, and take my word you will be more than happy with battery backup you will get after doing these small tricks.
Enjoy!!!
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Are you running a custom ROM or stock? Thanks for the tips!

Its stock...JB leak 3!
But I have tried this on Slimkat too.
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I don't use gapps at all, I have noticed it is draining battery a very long time ago. Actually, any background app which uses the internet connection is a source of a trouble. WhatsApp is also eating battery like a hog. Ideally, there should be no background apps at all, except the system ones.
I use Greenify to freeze WhatsApp. So new messages are coming only when I open WhatsApp, like emails. This gives me extra 2-3 hours of battery time.

timjosten said:
I don't use gapps at all, I have noticed it is draining battery a very long time ago. Actually, any background app which uses the internet connection is a source of a trouble. WhatsApp is also eating battery like a hog. Ideally, there should be no background apps at all, except the system ones.
I use Greenify to freeze WhatsApp. So new messages are coming only when I open WhatsApp, like emails. This gives me extra 2-3 hours of battery time.
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Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417

Package Disabler Pro and the newest Google Play Services

So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.

are you root?
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14

johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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Zero problems here.
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johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
are you root?
No, I'm not rooted. Everything was going smooth until I got the new update to Google Play Services. I found that if you turned off the location services for your phone it would clear up but that only lasted maybe an hour before stuff started up again.
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
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BACARDILIMON said:
You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.

johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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i think if u go in with root exploer if u was rooted u find facebook in 2-3 spots. whatsapp gave me issues. i gave up on debloating. i have seen a few debloated roms that the dev went in and manually removed and made things work. freeze apps is no longer as simple as it once was .

I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.

johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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hmmm weird...I have no problem with it.

If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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rlsroufe said:
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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If I root, its when its been confirmed that Samsung Pay will work with one of those new root cloaking apps (one is an xposed module) works for it. If it does, I'll be back on root in no time.
My issue may be my phone. I couldn't get it to respond for anything, error messages that wouldn't go away long enough to type a letter. I factory reset and the error codes kept coming. Its going to be replaced.

dandroid7 said:
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
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It always fail when i try to delete stuff why ?

There is other way,
Try to use this app "App Package Disabler (Samsung)" - NO NEED ROOT
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler
Simple and easy to use

Oreo and apps like Greenify

With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?

I'm wondering the same thing.

Oreo caches apps in the back ground.
It works, but I still use Greenify to clean up the apps that I do not want cached.
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km8j said:
With all the work Google put into background battery life in Oreo, are apps like Greenify needed anymore? That was one of the primary reasons to root IMHO. Do we need that?
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I personally felt the need for greenify was obsolete since Nougat arrived. Also in my experience I found that using it was detrimental/made no difference to battery life over time.

When I first got my Pixel 2, idle drain seemed high, so I tried Greenify. It seemed to help. I then uninstalled Greenify and there was no difference in battery life. I now believe the initial drain was just part of the phone calibrating itself and Greenify did not really do anything.

For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.

k4r70ng said:
For some apps like instagram/facebook you really need greenify to prevent them running in the background.
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Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/

They still manage to run in the background for me Same with microsoft office apps!
foosion said:
Can't you just use oreo's settings to limit background activity and to optimize battery for those apps?
https://www.howtogeek.com/324566/how-to-limit-background-activity-for-apps-in-android-oreo/
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I use Greenify to control the play store app, services framework, and other system apps that think they need to suck down the battery. I use Google Maps all the time but I don't want it running in the background when I am not using the phone. My phone is not rooted and I plan on keeping it that way for awhile. So far the battery is lasting a long time but I don't use the assistant or any other service that goes beyond making phone calls and texting. Facebook and the others can keep their battery draining apps to themselves.

I swapped out Greenify for Naptime. Naptime makes a difference.

Best battery back up rom suggestions please

I use like 150 apps installed in the phone.
Tried pie open beta(and also other custom roms) with kernels and other greenify apps but battery sticks with 5 to 6 screen on time.
I feel grateful if someone can help me getting the backup 7 or 7+.
I hear some guys are getting 8 and plus sot. I don't know how if everyone is using the same phone. I don't use phone for gaming. My usage involves with social media, YouTube, chats and 40 to 60 minutes using maps and gps.
Is it because of number of apps installed?

It's not about apps installed unless they keep the phone awake at all time, wish I don't think they do.
Unfortunately the best thing to do is just stop using social media lol.. Facebook and snapchat atleast.. Those apps are true battery killers.
If you feel like Facebook is really something you NEED in your life then skip the app and use the browser instead.
The other thing is making sure apps that you don't need notifications from is blocked from background usage in Battery, total usage, click the app you know you can block and select background usage, block
Last is managing the brightness, now there are times for full blast on the display and there is times for low light, don't let the screen blast your eyes if it's not needed to.

whizeguy said:
Unfortunately the best thing to do is just stop using social media lol.. Facebook and snapchat atleast.. Those apps are true battery killers.
If you feel like Facebook is really something you NEED in your life then skip the app and use the browser instead.
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I agree... Facebook is a Hog. And they push you into using Facebook messenger as well... :-/
I use this... It's a pretty slick front-end for Facebook that uses little of the resources that the app does. It also let's you use messenger without installing it on mobile!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jesture.phoenix
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harigavara said:
I use like 150 apps installed in the phone.
Tried pie open beta(and also other custom roms) with kernels and other greenify apps but battery sticks with 5 to 6 screen on time.
I feel grateful if someone can help me getting the backup 7 or 7+.
I hear some guys are getting 8 and plus sot. I don't know how if everyone is using the same phone. I don't use phone for gaming. My usage involves with social media, YouTube, chats and 40 to 60 minutes using maps and gps.
Is it because of number of apps installed?
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150 apps lol, how can you manage so much, I think just a simple browser can help you get rid of atleast 100 of them. I never understand the need of app which works on a site on a desktop. Just to keep track of your location and what you are searching online, these apps track you and kills your battery. Go smart, use no tracking browser like bromite and live the freedom.
Now for ROM part, I get the best battery with any OOS + elementalX kernel. None of the custom rom are better than OOS and yes don't forget to remove all Google apps and OnePlus apps, they track you.
Also install betterbatterystats to check what is killing your battery, I easily get upto 8 hrs. of sot if no pubg.