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[All roms][Sharing] Huge battery saver!

Google think that almost every device running android, is their device. Therefore they implemented a service within Google Play Services that will connect your device often to the Google and it will drain more battery then needed.
NOTE:
I tried a method that was shown on i think this forum or another one. I can't remember which one it was, and i cant find the thread either.
So before i am going to start this, i wanna thank the guy from the original thread for this, even if i dont know where i can find you. I am only sharing this so i take NO CREDITS.
I repeat, i am ONLY sharing this.
+ Works with:
- AOSP roms
- TW roms
- Well, basicly all android running devices :fingers-crossed:
To start with:
- Turn of location settings
- Go to settings, accounts and go to your google account.
+ go to advertisements and untick the toggle that says that Google takes care of your advertisements.
Most important:
- Download Adaway (latest) from HERE.
Thank you @mrRobinson for this awesome app!
- Open adAway and provide Adaway root access.
- Press the menu button and go to your own custom list.
- Now add a line by pressing the + button in the upper right of the screen.
- Add the following line < mtalk.google.com >
- Make sure the the checkmark is ON with the "mtalk.google.com" line.
- Now go back to the homescreen of adAway, apply the patch.
Note: According to the maker of the original thread, this seems to be the server that your device is always trying to communicate with. So by blacklisting this URL, there is no connection anymore.
Note 2: Cyanogenmod (and maybe other AOSP or GE users) are experiencing that the Blue highlighted WI-FI icon and the blue highlighted antenna icon are now GREY after applying this.
This is because you are not connected anymore to the google servers.
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still manual synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.

ramon.nmgn said:
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.
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This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...

Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Obagleyfreer said:
Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Ah i did not checked my host file if became smaller. But adAway definitely works for me as it completely rebuilds the host file.
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how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?

Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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I believe this is not a viable option for many users for the same reason ...but still for some may be useful

Vihru said:
how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?
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I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.

ramon.nmgn said:
I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.
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I always delete GooglePlayServices and never have any problems with apps updating.
I still get notifications in my status bar telling me when there is an app update available in the Play Store and also still get my Gmail notifications in my status bar.
Syncing works perfectly and so does Maps, Google Search, YouTube etc.
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
And I no longer have RAM wasted and battery used up by this annoying app!!
My advice to everyone, delete it, it's not needed at all.

Obagleyfreer said:
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
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Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me

Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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That's odd, I don't get Google Maps requesting Play services on my device.
I do get one of those notifications after wiping cache and dalvik cache though, I just swipe it away and carry on as normal.
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
For example when I first boot up YouTube after wiping cache it says it needs PlayServices to run but I just ignore and cancel it.
I have never lost any YouTube functionality at all.

ramon.nmgn said:
Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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What method? Entering the mtalk line?
Obagleyfreer said:
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
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Some yes, some no. Keep refused to work. Anyway, can easily make it through the end of the day anyway and will always charge at night so no biggie but all small bits can help of course. This fix is a bit too coarse, for me that is of course

Uninstalling Google system apps...

Hey guys,
Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I'll ask anyway just to double check:
Stock, rooted N5: Can I use TiBu to uninstall Google apps that are pre installed as system apps, then turn around and install those same apps through the Play Store as regular user apps? Any ill effects to this? Primarily looking at Google Music, so I can then Greenify it once it's installed as a regular app. Everything I know tells me this is fine but it never hurts to ask, right? May do the same with Keep, Currents, G+, etc...
Thanks in advance

slider112 said:
Hey guys,
Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I'll ask anyway just to double check:
Stock, rooted N5: Can I use TiBu to uninstall Google apps that are pre installed as system apps, then turn around and install those same apps through the Play Store as regular user apps? Any ill effects to this? Primarily looking at Google Music, so I can then Greenify it once it's installed as a regular app. Everything I know tells me this is fine but it never hurts to ask, right? May do the same with Keep, Currents, G+, etc...
Thanks in advance
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Yep, you can uninstall Google apps, like music, plus, magazine, etc... and download as user apps, then greenify them.
I removed some them on day 1 when was on stock and now whenever I flash a new Rom with Gapps. Just be careful with what you choose. I recommend to first back them up then if everything is fine, delete backups.

GUGUITOMTG4 said:
Yep, you can uninstall Google apps, like music, plus, magazine, etc... and download as user apps, then greenify them.
I removed some them on day 1 when was on stock and now whenever I flash a new Rom with Gapps. Just be careful with what you choose. I recommend to first back them up then if everything is fine, delete backups.
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Great, thanks for confirming. Just gonna stick to the basics, but will back up through TiBu first as a precaution. Google Music was at the forefront because at times it runs in the background when bluetooth is turned on. It was either go this route or purchase the full version of Greenify so I could hibernate all system apps. Greenify is well worth the support, but would rather just de-clutter things this way.
Thanks again, much appreciated. :good:

Don't delete. Freeze. There is nothing to gain by deleting
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You lose OTA ability if you outright delete.
Like was stated, freeze them. If you were going to uninstall them through Titanium anyway.....
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rootSU said:
Don't delete. Freeze. There is nothing to gain by deleting
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So freeze Google Music as a system app, then install as a user app from the play store? Seems kind of redundant. I understand that logic and have followed that for other system apps in the past on other devices, but is that really the preferred method if I'm only dealing with Google apps that were installed as system apps from the factory, only by default, and can be easily reinstalled via the play store? Oh, and I'm running Franco's kernel so the OTA capability ship has already sailed anyway...

slider112 said:
So freeze Google Music as a system app, then install as a user app from the play store? Seems kind of redundant. I understand that logic and have followed that for other system apps in the past on other devices, but is that really the preferred method if I'm only dealing with Google apps that were installed as system apps from the factory, only by default, and can be easily reinstalled via the play store? Oh, and I'm running Franco's kernel so the OTA capability ship has already sailed anyway...
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Why would you then install it as a user app? System apps that are also available in play can still be updated via play anyway.

rootSU said:
Why would you then install it as a user app? System apps that are also available in play can still be updated via play anyway.
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Yes, I know that. So I can greenify it. Google Music will run in the background once bluetooth is turned on. Can't greenify system apps with the basic app, so for that particular app I think this would be the easiest method.

Ah well, yep. Non-donators are forced to do weird things.

rootSU said:
Ah well, yep. Non-donators are forced to do weird things.
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Lol. Nothing weird about it. Worked fine. Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store. The user should have the choice of what they want and don't want. Easily corrected.

They do. Its called "custom rom"
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rootSU said:
They do. Its called "custom rom"
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They also have "titanium backup". Uninstalled. Done. "Custom roms" aren't for everyone. I've run plenty since my original droid days and just never use half the features included. I want rooted stock, and I have it. Thanks for everyones input.

Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.

rootSU said:
Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
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Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier.
- Yep. Know that. I only flash core/mini gapps packages on the "custom roms" I've run. But "based on stock" isn't stock. Point was more about not needing/wanting the extra features that "custom roms" provide. Especially on a pure google device like the N5.
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
- Opinion. They're not designed to be system apps and there is no benefit having them installed as such. They're system apps on Nexus devices because they're made by Google, only reason. They're on the play store to allow for users of non google devices to install/uninstall as they please.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
- You get that feeling because that's exactly why I'm doing it. Never implied otherwise. Let's not go down the "you should support all developers for their hard work" road here. I've purchased more apps over the years than I care to admit, and continue to support developers and their hard work. Case in point: Titanium Backup Pro; which I used as the alternative here.

[Q] Google play services and google services framework

Guys, I'm losing my mind over their wake and battery use. I'm on Slim 8.0 and franco r63 and already done the following:
Yeah, so I've turned OFF 'wake' in privacy manager, I've cancelled 'wake' permission in Android Tuner, I've disabled ads / location activity, and turned off sync and STILL I get ~40% drain from stinking GOOGLE SERVICES!!
Last night was last straw of me, so I wiped / reflashed SLIM 8.0 and franco kernel r63, set max CPU to ~1450, max GPU to ~380, downvolt ~25ma and waiting to see result.
WHY are google services such a PITA when it comes to WAKE and BATTERY USE when I've obviously disabled their ability to both WAKE and COMMUNICATE?
It's driven me absolutely BATTY. My wife's S4 has the same issue and I'm about to be DONE with all Google crap on her phone also.
I've google the issues and they are THOUSANDS of reports of similar problems.
If ANYBODY has a better idea I'd really appreciate it. Different ROM, different kernel, ANYTHING.

UPDATE: 4 hours 37 minutes > 90% left... with a lot of 9gagging in that time

Battery help thread linked in my signature.

Had the issue earlier today. Settings > Storage > Clear Cache > Reboot seems to have worked.

Make sure to not disable GPS, doing so for some reason will have that process constantly scan for location and keeping your device awake.
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Never heard of the 'GPS on' trick, but I checked location and no apps have requested location.
I tried to load a 'mini Gapps' package for SLIM but it's same story, device NEVER sleeps. No sync, no location, disabled 'wake' for the services, everything... glad I backed up the system with NO Gapps because I'll likely be restoring...
Really, really, really pathetic that SO many people have this program. What the hell is wrong with google??

Im convinced google play services is nsa spyware. Anyone care to prove me wrong? I would feel bette if you could. I have uninstalled it several times and it WILL NOT GO AWAY. And it uses more permissions than any other app I have. It will not stop running. It behaves like a virus in my opinion. Am I just a conspiracy nut?
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whodisname said:
Im convinced google play services is nsa spyware. Anyone care to prove me wrong? I would feel bette if you could. I have uninstalled it several times and it WILL NOT GO AWAY. And it uses more permissions than any other app I have. It will not stop running. It behaves like a virus in my opinion. Am I just a conspiracy nut?
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1. Google uses it for things like Analytics
2. Most apps depend on it as a framework to do things, hence the permissions
3. It updates in the background automatically
4. This is Android. Android means Google.
5. If you don't like that, switch to using the Amazon app store, or buy a crappy iOS device.

Well, I just removed it (it was a pita due to no recovery on phone so i gotta be delicate!) and maps still works. Thats the one app I cant live without. I havent checked everything yet but nothing I have used thus far seems affected. Used TB to remove market links.I use an alternate app store already. My phone runs MUCH faster. I will never own a crappy Iphone device!!!
Everything checked. All works.
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You don't need GPS ON, just freeze google play store and services and enjoy LONG battery life. Only thing that works for me 100% of the time....

A working package disabler?

Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.

Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore

http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.

sbdadmak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.

0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.

The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.

AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time

nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en

mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
flyingwolf said:
Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...

My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.

Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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I think I'll just install a custom ROM

Voiding the warranty will not be a pleasant thing to do, but I'm annoyed as hell by some of the things that are happening in ZenUI:
- Disabling Google apps i.e. chrome, duo, YouTube is futile since the apps turn back on again.
- Since chrome can't be permanently disabled I can't click on links in apps such as Sync for Reddit without chrome opening automatically asking me to use Chrome.
- Some accessibility settings that were turned on randomly turn themselves off after a reboot. In my case it happened to a password manager that was suddenly no longer able to auto fill fields in my browser.
- I can't seem to switch songs with my volume control . Simply a feature I really miss.
I'll give them one update to see if either of the above improves. If not I'll install a custom ROM.

Avalon said:
- Disabling Google apps i.e. chrome, duo, YouTube is futile since the apps turn back on again.
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This was happening with me, after the 3rd or 4th time of disabling Duo and Chrome haven't turned back on, for what it's worth. Keep trying.
Avalon said:
- Some accessibility settings that were turned on randomly turn themselves off after a reboot. In my case it happened to a password manager that was suddenly no longer able to auto fill fields in my browser.
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Is it LastPass? It doesn't actually disable able accessibility settings, just keeps asking for it for some reason.
LastPass is honestly quite trash.

Supra | MD said:
This was happening with me, after the 3rd or 4th time of disabling Duo and Chrome haven't turned back on, for what it's worth. Keep trying.
Is it LastPass? It doesn't actually disable able accessibility settings, just keeps asking for it for some reason.
LastPass is honestly quite trash.
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I'll keep trying, thanks. As for lastpass, yeah, it's not great. Bitwarden has been great for me for the last 2 years.
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I was also having a fit trying to disable Chrome, Duo, Photos and Youtube - they were all just being enabled again, rather quickly.
It seemed to happen once via Playstore downloading languages for something, could never catch exactly what triggered this.
Anyway, after several reboots and redisabling, it hasn't happened for two days now.
Don't miss disabling the 3 Facebook system apps.
They at least have remained disabled.

cobben said:
I was also having a fit trying to disable Chrome, Duo, Photos and Youtube - they were all just being enabled again, rather quickly.
It seemed to happen once via Playstore downloading languages for something, could never catch exactly what triggered this.
Anyway, after several reboots and redisabling, it hasn't happened for two days now.
Don't miss disabling the 3 Facebook system apps.
They at least have remained disabled.
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You had 3 Facebook system apps on your device? I had the normal Facebook app which I was able to fully delete.
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Avalon said:
You had 3 Facebook system apps on your device? I had the normal Facebook app which I was able to fully delete.
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You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots at upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.

cobben said:
You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots st upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
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Lookie here.... Thanks. This prompts me even more to install a custom ROM.
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Avalon said:
Lookie here.... Thanks. This prompts me even more to install a custom ROM.
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I don't agree.
I think Asus has done a very good job with this one.
All the custom roms seem to have all sorts of various problems.
The 4 Google apps Asus had to preinstall to keep on the right side of Google.
As long as they finally stay disabled, I'm ok with that.
The Fakebook stuff is more serious, IMHO they made a bad judgement call installing the Fakebook stuff.
(Maybe they get paid for doing that?)
But the apps don't seem to do anything while disabled, I have Netguard monitoring them.
And I haven't found anything else problematic at all yet.
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Advice from some 5-7 year old threads just came in:
Disabling the app "Google Partner Setup" will stop the automatic re-enabling of other apps.
I have not tried this, yet anyway.

cobben said:
Advice from some 5-7 year old threads just came in:
Disabling the app "Google Partner Setup" will stop the automatic re-enabling of other apps.
I have not tried this, yet anyway.
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Thanks for this. I didn't stumble upon such a thread when I was searching for a solution. Let's see how it goes.
As for ZenUI, it's definitely not the worst and I like how little bloatware is included. Perhaps I'm a bit quick with my judgement and I'll wait for a next update.
The fact that apps that require accessibility settings cease to function after a reboot until I simply open that app is a huge pain in the ass tho. Examples include: bitwarden and swiftly switch (pro). Hope this gets fixed. I was wrong in saying that the accessibility toggle automatically turns off. I assumed that because said apps don't function as intended after a reboot.
As for custom ROMs I'll definitely wait. I went through the threads and there seem to be quite a couple of issues that need to be ironed out first. Flashing a ROM now might open new doors to other problems that are bigger than the ones I'm facing right now.
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Avalon said:
As for custom ROMs I'll definitely wait. I went through the threads and there seem to be quite a couple of issues that need to be ironed out first. Flashing a ROM now might open new doors to other problems that are bigger than the ones I'm facing right now.
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As someone who just spent a week trying to get LOS installed and is going back to stock, I can testify that custom ROMs are not ready yet. All of the necessary elements (recovery, ROM, gapps, etc.) have multiple showstopper issues. Add on to that the confusion caused by A/B partitions. I've never kept a phone stock before, but I'm flashing stock and will check back in 6 months to see if custom ROMs are stable by then.

Avalon said:
The fact that apps that require accessibility settings cease to function after a reboot until I simply open that app is a huge pain in the ass tho. Examples include: bitwarden and swiftly switch (pro). Hope this gets fixed. I was wrong in saying that the accessibility toggle automatically turns off. I assumed that because said apps don't function as intended after a reboot.
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I don't use those apps, but have you set them to autostart and to "no battery optimization"?

trachyte said:
As someone who just spent a week trying to get LOS installed and is going back to stock, I can testify that custom ROMs are not ready yet. All of the necessary elements (recovery, ROM, gapps, etc.) have multiple showstopper issues. Add on to that the confusion caused by A/B partitions. I've never kept a phone stock before, but I'm flashing stock and will check back in 6 months to see if custom ROMs are stable by then.
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Yep, exactly my thoughts.
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Agree with disabling of accessibility features.
I use FliudNG for gestures (highly recommended especially for 6z) and I have to disable and re-enable it's accessibility, then re-enable the app again after a reboot.

loneagl said:
Agree with disabling of accessibility features.
I use FliudNG for gestures (highly recommended especially for 6z) and I have to disable and re-enable it's accessibility, then re-enable the app again after a reboot.
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So strange. In my case the only thing I NEED to do for those apps to work is simply open the app and close it again. I haven't tried FluidNG yet but I expect the same results.
Edit: tried it. Same results indeed.
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cobben said:
You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots at upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
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FWIW I have three facebook apps listed (after uninstalling the main app) - "Facebook App Installer", "Facebook App Manager" and "Facebook Services". Don't know what these do, so I just disabled them. They're disabled now so I'm hoping they can't get their podgy fingers involved in anything?

Jimmcwibb said:
FWIW I have three facebook apps listed (after uninstalling the main app) - "Facebook App Installer", "Facebook App Manager" and "Facebook Services". Don't know what these do, so I just disabled them. They're disabled now so I'm hoping they can't get their podgy fingers involved in anything?
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Yep, blocking them was recommended by someone already earlier in this thread. Good find either way.
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Avalon said:
Yep, blocking them was recommended by someone already earlier in this thread. Good find either way.
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I have been tracking their potential attempts at internet access via Netguard, and there is none.
So they do seem to stay comfortably disabled.
The other preloaded apps that I repeatedly had to disable have also remained disabled for a week now, so that problem seems to have gone away.
(Or are they just waiting for a wakeup signal from the mothership? )

Have someone tried disabling apps using Island or similar Android-for-work software? It says that it can work without root by setting the software as a device owner using adb... Because with every possible app disabled (GP, FB, etc) their folders on Internal Storage still recreated after removal.