Google think that almost every device running android, is their device. Therefore they implemented a service within Google Play Services that will connect your device often to the Google and it will drain more battery then needed.
NOTE:
I tried a method that was shown on i think this forum or another one. I can't remember which one it was, and i cant find the thread either.
So before i am going to start this, i wanna thank the guy from the original thread for this, even if i dont know where i can find you. I am only sharing this so i take NO CREDITS.
I repeat, i am ONLY sharing this.
+ Works with:
- AOSP roms
- TW roms
- Well, basicly all android running devices :fingers-crossed:
To start with:
- Turn of location settings
- Go to settings, accounts and go to your google account.
+ go to advertisements and untick the toggle that says that Google takes care of your advertisements.
Most important:
- Download Adaway (latest) from HERE.
Thank you @mrRobinson for this awesome app!
- Open adAway and provide Adaway root access.
- Press the menu button and go to your own custom list.
- Now add a line by pressing the + button in the upper right of the screen.
- Add the following line < mtalk.google.com >
- Make sure the the checkmark is ON with the "mtalk.google.com" line.
- Now go back to the homescreen of adAway, apply the patch.
Note: According to the maker of the original thread, this seems to be the server that your device is always trying to communicate with. So by blacklisting this URL, there is no connection anymore.
Note 2: Cyanogenmod (and maybe other AOSP or GE users) are experiencing that the Blue highlighted WI-FI icon and the blue highlighted antenna icon are now GREY after applying this.
This is because you are not connected anymore to the google servers.
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still manual synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.
ramon.nmgn said:
Note 3: Keep in mind that you can still synchronise your calander, contacts, Gmail, and other Google account related.
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This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Obagleyfreer said:
Thanks for this.
I don't think Ad away works as it should though.
It says its syncing and merging with my current hosts file but after doing that my hosts file goes from 1.4mb to 700kb. So all its doing is deleting stuff. Weird
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Ah i did not checked my host file if became smaller. But adAway definitely works for me as it completely rebuilds the host file.
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how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?
Pfeffernuss said:
This (syncing) only applies for manual updates. Leaving the entry in Adaway will disable auto-updates. Not a viable option for me, am not going to manually refresh Google apps...
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I believe this is not a viable option for many users for the same reason ...but still for some may be useful
Vihru said:
how about deleting google play services if dont need automatic syncing?
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I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.
ramon.nmgn said:
I think if you do that, you are not even able to Sync and update your apps at al.
I am just sharing this, i am using it myself and im pretty satisfied.
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I always delete GooglePlayServices and never have any problems with apps updating.
I still get notifications in my status bar telling me when there is an app update available in the Play Store and also still get my Gmail notifications in my status bar.
Syncing works perfectly and so does Maps, Google Search, YouTube etc.
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
And I no longer have RAM wasted and battery used up by this annoying app!!
My advice to everyone, delete it, it's not needed at all.
Obagleyfreer said:
I actually can't see ANY reason to have GooglePlayServices installed.
All my Google apps still function perfectly without it.
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Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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Pfeffernuss said:
Was pretty euphoric when I read this so immediately disabled Play Services and rebooted like a happy little kid :laugh:
That level of joy didn't last long:
Maps, Calendar, Keep, Youtube, these all need G.P.S. to function properly. Maybe even more apps but this is where I stopped.
Needless to say turned it back on again. This, as well, is not a viable option for me
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That's odd, I don't get Google Maps requesting Play services on my device.
I do get one of those notifications after wiping cache and dalvik cache though, I just swipe it away and carry on as normal.
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
For example when I first boot up YouTube after wiping cache it says it needs PlayServices to run but I just ignore and cancel it.
I have never lost any YouTube functionality at all.
ramon.nmgn said:
Did you tried the method i mentioned? :happy:
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What method? Entering the mtalk line?
Obagleyfreer said:
After you swiped them away can you still use the apps requesting it?
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Some yes, some no. Keep refused to work. Anyway, can easily make it through the end of the day anyway and will always charge at night so no biggie but all small bits can help of course. This fix is a bit too coarse, for me that is of course
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Right, I'm a PowerAMP pro user, but with a pretty old phone. The latest app is working but it's slow and sometimes lags. The poweramp site also offers the old 1.4 version which works right for me. Now, all is fine and dandy but I;m a bit annoyed by the app always showing up there to be updated. So I searched for a method to detach the app from the market and learnt that the bug has been solved long ago and apps can't be detached. So I tried changing the app's signature, of course with no luck, my android dev skills being close to absolute zero.
So I ask you, is there any way to do this? I am not pirating the app, so don't worry
I'm also trying to convince the developer to make an unsigned version of the app specifically for old timers like me, but with no success until now..
Just use LBE Privacy guard and freeze internet connection permission for this particular app..
So it will not connect to net and not telling you that new version is available..
we all should be polite enough to press thanks for anyone who helped US.
andrei1015 said:
Right, I'm a PowerAMP pro user, but with a pretty old phone. The latest app is working but it's slow and sometimes lags. The poweramp site also offers the old 1.4 version which works right for me. Now, all is fine and dandy but I;m a bit annoyed by the app always showing up there to be updated. So I searched for a method to detach the app from the market and learnt that the bug has been solved long ago and apps can't be detached. So I tried changing the app's signature, of course with no luck, my android dev skills being close to absolute zero.
So I ask you, is there any way to do this? I am not pirating the app, so don't worry
I'm also trying to convince the developer to make an unsigned version of the app specifically for old timers like me, but with no success until now..
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If it doesnt need to connect to the internet for anything else you could use droidwall to block it from accessing the playstore
If your rooted you could use blackmart to download the app and never have to update it
Or see the updates notifications saying there's an update
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andrei1015 said:
Right, I'm a PowerAMP pro user, but with a pretty old phone. The latest app is working but it's slow and sometimes lags. The poweramp site also offers the old 1.4 version which works right for me. Now, all is fine and dandy but I;m a bit annoyed by the app always showing up there to be updated. So I searched for a method to detach the app from the market and learnt that the bug has been solved long ago and apps can't be detached. So I tried changing the app's signature, of course with no luck, my android dev skills being close to absolute zero.
So I ask you, is there any way to do this? I am not pirating the app, so don't worry
I'm also trying to convince the developer to make an unsigned version of the app specifically for old timers like me, but with no success until now..
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I know Titanium Backup can detach apps, though I am not sure if it is available in the free version. However, I do recommend the paid version of Titanium Backup anyway.
universeman said:
I know Titanium Backup can detach apps, though I am not sure if it is available in the free version. However, I do recommend the paid version of Titanium Backup anyway.
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I have never been able to make that function actually work and I've tried with several apps that I don't want updates for.
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On a related note, is there a way to remove apps from the "My Apps"list? It is really annoying to have to scroll through a list of apps containing tons of apps that you may have tried for a while and then uninstalled when you need to reinstall something. And why is the "My Apps" list in random order and not alphabetical?
"Dark is the night, I'm just a lonesome ol' shootin' star."
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lunarlandr said:
On a related note, is there a way to remove apps from the "My Apps"list? It is really annoying to have to scroll through a list of apps containing tons of apps that you may have tried for a while and then uninstalled when you need to reinstall something. And why is the "My Apps" list in random order and not alphabetical?
"Dark is the night, I'm just a lonesome ol' shootin' star."
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As far as I know (and after some quick Googling), there is no way to remove any apps from the giant "My Apps" list. However, I use the Appbrain android market replacement, and it lets you customize your lists and sort them better. You can remove devices from view though.
universeman said:
As far as I know (and after some quick Googling), there is no way to remove any apps from the giant "My Apps" list. However, I use the Appbrain android market replacement, and it lets you customize your lists and sort them better. You can remove devices from view though.
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Thanks, I will definitely look into that and continue to research the issue as well. If I find any other solutions, I won't hesitate to post an update.
"Dark is the night, I'm just a lonesome ol' shootin' star."
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I know all the good stuff Android says about auto killing memory threads when there is a need BUT I am a micromanager for my Android . I JUST DONT WANT Google Play Services and Google Maps service to run in background as if they own the OS (sounds like Google like to keep google running after all ) .
Is there ANY way e.g....
-- Command via terminal
-- Any APP out there
-- a file change
that will prevent these suckers from running in the background. Google claims that these are innocent little puppies -just sit in the memory and dont consume CPU . Really ? NOT SO ..
-- They consume SLOW NETWORK bandwidth and cpu ( Keep a port checking s/w and see the android's IP doing some mischief through random ports, EVEN when its not in use )
-- Suck the battery
-- I JUST DON'T like carrying a lot of unnecessary stuff in the trunk of my car ..Ok?
I know there were some apps that would MODIFY default permissions on each app. Could they help . Could someone run me a few names
I feel the same way. I want to keep Google Play from looking for updates in the background. Glad to know I'm not the only one!
I'm not exactly sure of the end result. But maybe you could use a titanium backup widget to freeze/unfreeze Google play services. I did it to g maps and the toggle widget works perfect I just haven't tried play services because not sure if it will break something lol.
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djwuh said:
I'm not exactly sure of the end result. But maybe you could use a titanium backup widget to freeze/unfreeze Google play services. I did it to g maps and the toggle widget works perfect I just haven't tried play services because not sure if it will break something lol.
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I am already using Link2SD ( BTW I met some other serious issues with it - no one here in XDA has bothered to reply to me ) and I froze the following apps that run in the background without asking me
-- google services framework
-- google play
-- airdroid
- some other google service ( not sure of name )
i will unfreeze only when I need to , rest times I am good. Miss out updates - but who cares - I dont - actualyl updates are a pain in b**t when they keep happening every other day
I wondered if there is some s/w out there that will change the ACL's of these files so that they cannot exe, automatically.
sieger007 said:
I am already using Link2SD ( BTW I met some other serious issues with it - no one here in XDA has bothered to reply to me ) and I froze the following apps that run in the background without asking me
-- google services framework
-- google play
-- airdroid
- some other google service ( not sure of name )
i will unfreeze only when I need to , rest times I am good. Miss out updates - but who cares - I dont - actualyl updates are a pain in b**t when they keep happening every other day
I wondered if there is some s/w out there that will change the ACL's of these files so that they cannot exe, automatically.
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You froze Google Services Framework and your phone still worked???
I'd like to see a full list of what you froze.
EEngineer said:
You froze Google Services Framework and your phone still worked???
I'd like to see a full list of what you froze.
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some google service - I will double check the name. Try it . How cares - unfreeze if it does not work . I froze the sim#2 service also because i dont use it Think Linux - what do you need to run it
I just tried something different, I used DroidWall to block network access to the following services:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Account Manager
Network Location
Google Bookmarks Sync
Google Contacts Sync
They were all listed as one item so they had to be blocked all at the same time. I will report what happens.
It's possible, annoying part is having to defrost services to install/update an app. Once in hibernation with the correct apk you'll be fine with no orange bars.
Make sure to delete all /data/data gsf stuff
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EEngineer said:
I just tried something different, I used DroidWall to block network access to the following services:
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Account Manager
Network Location
Google Bookmarks Sync
Google Contacts Sync
They were all listed as one item so they had to be blocked all at the same time. I will report what happens.
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Any updates on if this helped or not? Did it cause any negative effects?
No negative effects, and tablet is FASTER! Only thing is I have to unblock Google Play Service to check for app updates, but I only do that twice a month anyway.
EEngineer said:
No negative effects, and tablet is FASTER! Only thing is I have to unblock Google Play Service to check for app updates, but I only do that twice a month anyway.
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Is there not a way to disable them all apart from G Play Service?
oscarandjo said:
Is there not a way to disable them all apart from G Play Service?
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Not sure I understand your question. I've discovered it's safe to block network access to them all.
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if you block Google Play services and account manager your Gmail App will not work unless you are accessing Gmail through some other third party imapclient can someone confirm if Gmail App will work when these guys are blocked
Greetings.
as you know, even if we disable "android device manager" from settings->security->device administrators, it still can be enabled from https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager "enable lock & erase"
from one side it is good, but from other side it is bad - i don't want that my phone can be remotely erased by google
this functionality definitely resides in gmscore.apk
of course, we can just kill all google services, but we loose too much.
so : probably someone from devs here already know answer what to patch in gmscore to disable this behavior ?
with latest gmscore update ( 6.1.74 (1511752-038) ) the only message i can see, when pushing "enable lock and erase" :
GCM message com.google.android.gms 0:1414056810224892%136ddda63e77bab2
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of course, hex payload different each time.
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
:good:
Thanks you, I 'm searching since 10 minute.
the_laser said:
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
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Thanks! I was wondering how to do that.
thanks, but...
the_laser said:
disabling service
Code:
com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService
did job
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I can't seem to find that service, heck I can't even find gmscore.apk
When I use find / -name gmscore.apk in terminal nothing came up.
Running 4.4.2 on galaxy S5, google framework 4.4.2-940549
Any ideas?
I would really not want my device wiped If my google account was compromised (really only have it for android)
as i remember, this service because build into gmscore from 4.4.4 and enabling downloading some external application.
can be wrong, though.
damn it google!
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
gimche said:
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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Instead of a problem with ADM, this sounds like a massive security issue on your company's side. I don't know why your company need to share the same email account, but the more people who have access, the more likely someone will spill the beans. If I am you, getting my phone wiped will the least of my worries.
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Thank you, that is what I want. Great!
Ok so Im facing the same problem is there any way to disable this process ?
gimche said:
This is really frustrating. I can't find a way to disable it and I can't find 'com.google.android.gms.mdm.services.GcmReceiverService'.
This a serious security flaw, let me explain why.... I have a company account on my phone, just for the purpose of receiving gmail, and that's very important to me. This also means this account can access my phone through android device manager. So, anyone that can log in to firm's gmail can lock and erase my phone and there's no way to disable it. Best I could do was turn off location reporting and hide my phone from showing in device list. However, anyone that can log in to this account, can also change this in settings and unhide it, enable lock and erase, make it ring and.... well, lock and erase it.
This is very worrying when you have a lot of people with access to gmail account that you also have on your phone. ATM only solution I see is to remove account on my phone and search for other email app.
Anyone knows how one could deal with this and still use gmail app?
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deadwolf666 said:
Ok so Im facing the same problem is there any way to disable this process ?
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tamuin said:
I can't seem to find that service, heck I can't even find gmscore.apk
When I use find / -name gmscore.apk in terminal nothing came up.
Running 4.4.2 on galaxy S5, google framework 4.4.2-940549
Any ideas?
I would really not want my device wiped If my google account was compromised (really only have it for android)
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Install My Android Tools then go to Service>Google Play Service then disable the corresponding service.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&en
How about using a ROM without gapps?
Cyclu said:
Install My Android Tools then go to Service>Google Play Service then disable the corresponding service.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&en
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This dosent appear to be working, as after I disable all the above services, clicked on "enable lock and erase" from my google account it reactivated said services. So which service is activating and overriding the services I disabled?
Im running Android 4.4.2(goldeneye rom, Googymax kernal) on a Samsung i9505, I use Xprivacy, Android firewall, and Appmaster(app uninstaller & autostart manager)
Trying to secure an oem samsung Rom from google and its services while still using all the factory apps is going to be like herding cats...
It's similar to going to the pool and expecting to swim but not getting wet.
If you use Google apps and use the accounts feature of Android then you are going to have Google play services and other Google services running, and sadly you can stop them all you want they update and restart themselves regularly.
You just can't get away from Google, if you still use Google play, the Google mail app, Google voice search, Google account verifier, Google download manager, Google hangouts, Google plus or the host of other Google services and apps that a baked into your rom.
All you will do in find yourself with a lot of force closes from apps, and less hair more cats.
What @Cyclu said was the right way. there are several services and receivers that have "mdm" , probably what you could do is use the search function in the app while viewing the services for GooglePlayServices. at the top of the screen, click menu, toggle full, (full/short option) then tap the magnifying glass, then the search box and type "mdm" , then do the same thing under the receivers section
This is so annoying. Can you imagine disabling admin on the phone, knowing that after reading the description in that area of the settings that it cannot be used to wipe the phone? Then someone testing it to prove it and they click "Enable" and wipe the phone? Know how dangerous that is? My phone is an S5 mini, stock firmware and rooted with SuperSU. What can I do to just prevent admin mode being enabled? I want to be able to track my phone's location but I do NOT want my phone able to be remotely wiped by anyone including myself, remotely.
I tried all. Looks like there is no way to disable ADM. Even if u disable corresponding service for ADM still when u restart that service gets re-enables it self again. Had any got a solution to disable this crappy android device manager fully?? thx in advance.
Forgive me, but this thread is just pathetic. If you have Gapps, your device is not yours. It is Google's. Period. If you can't live without hangouts and similar garbage, then enjoy them, but stop *****ing about remote wipe. You can't be half-pregnant. By the way, remote wipe is not the worse thing that could happen to you. Anything could be silently installed on "your" phone, even if you somehow disable ADM. It could be done through Google play and google services framework. Not to mention thar google analytics record everything about your activities and gsf regularly reports the same "home" i.e Google.
To gmail at work guy: if you can't use another client to access your work gmail, get a separate feature phone.
even "android = google" ? much less gapps , eh ?
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
mrrocketdog said:
even "android = google" ? much less gapps , eh ?
"all i can really do is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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Android, unlike Gapps, is open source. So, you can get under the hood and clean lots of things.
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
are you root?
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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Zero problems here.
beep
johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
are you root?
No, I'm not rooted. Everything was going smooth until I got the new update to Google Play Services. I found that if you turned off the location services for your phone it would clear up but that only lasted maybe an hour before stuff started up again.
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
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BACARDILIMON said:
You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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i think if u go in with root exploer if u was rooted u find facebook in 2-3 spots. whatsapp gave me issues. i gave up on debloating. i have seen a few debloated roms that the dev went in and manually removed and made things work. freeze apps is no longer as simple as it once was .
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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hmmm weird...I have no problem with it.
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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rlsroufe said:
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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If I root, its when its been confirmed that Samsung Pay will work with one of those new root cloaking apps (one is an xposed module) works for it. If it does, I'll be back on root in no time.
My issue may be my phone. I couldn't get it to respond for anything, error messages that wouldn't go away long enough to type a letter. I factory reset and the error codes kept coming. Its going to be replaced.
dandroid7 said:
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
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It always fail when i try to delete stuff why ?
There is other way,
Try to use this app "App Package Disabler (Samsung)" - NO NEED ROOT
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler
Simple and easy to use
Voiding the warranty will not be a pleasant thing to do, but I'm annoyed as hell by some of the things that are happening in ZenUI:
- Disabling Google apps i.e. chrome, duo, YouTube is futile since the apps turn back on again.
- Since chrome can't be permanently disabled I can't click on links in apps such as Sync for Reddit without chrome opening automatically asking me to use Chrome.
- Some accessibility settings that were turned on randomly turn themselves off after a reboot. In my case it happened to a password manager that was suddenly no longer able to auto fill fields in my browser.
- I can't seem to switch songs with my volume control . Simply a feature I really miss.
I'll give them one update to see if either of the above improves. If not I'll install a custom ROM.
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- Disabling Google apps i.e. chrome, duo, YouTube is futile since the apps turn back on again.
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This was happening with me, after the 3rd or 4th time of disabling Duo and Chrome haven't turned back on, for what it's worth. Keep trying.
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- Some accessibility settings that were turned on randomly turn themselves off after a reboot. In my case it happened to a password manager that was suddenly no longer able to auto fill fields in my browser.
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Is it LastPass? It doesn't actually disable able accessibility settings, just keeps asking for it for some reason.
LastPass is honestly quite trash.
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This was happening with me, after the 3rd or 4th time of disabling Duo and Chrome haven't turned back on, for what it's worth. Keep trying.
Is it LastPass? It doesn't actually disable able accessibility settings, just keeps asking for it for some reason.
LastPass is honestly quite trash.
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I'll keep trying, thanks. As for lastpass, yeah, it's not great. Bitwarden has been great for me for the last 2 years.
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I was also having a fit trying to disable Chrome, Duo, Photos and Youtube - they were all just being enabled again, rather quickly.
It seemed to happen once via Playstore downloading languages for something, could never catch exactly what triggered this.
Anyway, after several reboots and redisabling, it hasn't happened for two days now.
Don't miss disabling the 3 Facebook system apps.
They at least have remained disabled.
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I was also having a fit trying to disable Chrome, Duo, Photos and Youtube - they were all just being enabled again, rather quickly.
It seemed to happen once via Playstore downloading languages for something, could never catch exactly what triggered this.
Anyway, after several reboots and redisabling, it hasn't happened for two days now.
Don't miss disabling the 3 Facebook system apps.
They at least have remained disabled.
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You had 3 Facebook system apps on your device? I had the normal Facebook app which I was able to fully delete.
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You had 3 Facebook system apps on your device? I had the normal Facebook app which I was able to fully delete.
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You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots at upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
cobben said:
You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots st upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
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Lookie here.... Thanks. This prompts me even more to install a custom ROM.
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Lookie here.... Thanks. This prompts me even more to install a custom ROM.
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I don't agree.
I think Asus has done a very good job with this one.
All the custom roms seem to have all sorts of various problems.
The 4 Google apps Asus had to preinstall to keep on the right side of Google.
As long as they finally stay disabled, I'm ok with that.
The Fakebook stuff is more serious, IMHO they made a bad judgement call installing the Fakebook stuff.
(Maybe they get paid for doing that?)
But the apps don't seem to do anything while disabled, I have Netguard monitoring them.
And I haven't found anything else problematic at all yet.
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Advice from some 5-7 year old threads just came in:
Disabling the app "Google Partner Setup" will stop the automatic re-enabling of other apps.
I have not tried this, yet anyway.
cobben said:
Advice from some 5-7 year old threads just came in:
Disabling the app "Google Partner Setup" will stop the automatic re-enabling of other apps.
I have not tried this, yet anyway.
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Thanks for this. I didn't stumble upon such a thread when I was searching for a solution. Let's see how it goes.
As for ZenUI, it's definitely not the worst and I like how little bloatware is included. Perhaps I'm a bit quick with my judgement and I'll wait for a next update.
The fact that apps that require accessibility settings cease to function after a reboot until I simply open that app is a huge pain in the ass tho. Examples include: bitwarden and swiftly switch (pro). Hope this gets fixed. I was wrong in saying that the accessibility toggle automatically turns off. I assumed that because said apps don't function as intended after a reboot.
As for custom ROMs I'll definitely wait. I went through the threads and there seem to be quite a couple of issues that need to be ironed out first. Flashing a ROM now might open new doors to other problems that are bigger than the ones I'm facing right now.
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As for custom ROMs I'll definitely wait. I went through the threads and there seem to be quite a couple of issues that need to be ironed out first. Flashing a ROM now might open new doors to other problems that are bigger than the ones I'm facing right now.
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As someone who just spent a week trying to get LOS installed and is going back to stock, I can testify that custom ROMs are not ready yet. All of the necessary elements (recovery, ROM, gapps, etc.) have multiple showstopper issues. Add on to that the confusion caused by A/B partitions. I've never kept a phone stock before, but I'm flashing stock and will check back in 6 months to see if custom ROMs are stable by then.
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The fact that apps that require accessibility settings cease to function after a reboot until I simply open that app is a huge pain in the ass tho. Examples include: bitwarden and swiftly switch (pro). Hope this gets fixed. I was wrong in saying that the accessibility toggle automatically turns off. I assumed that because said apps don't function as intended after a reboot.
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I don't use those apps, but have you set them to autostart and to "no battery optimization"?
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As someone who just spent a week trying to get LOS installed and is going back to stock, I can testify that custom ROMs are not ready yet. All of the necessary elements (recovery, ROM, gapps, etc.) have multiple showstopper issues. Add on to that the confusion caused by A/B partitions. I've never kept a phone stock before, but I'm flashing stock and will check back in 6 months to see if custom ROMs are stable by then.
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Yep, exactly my thoughts.
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Agree with disabling of accessibility features.
I use FliudNG for gestures (highly recommended especially for 6z) and I have to disable and re-enable it's accessibility, then re-enable the app again after a reboot.
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Agree with disabling of accessibility features.
I use FliudNG for gestures (highly recommended especially for 6z) and I have to disable and re-enable it's accessibility, then re-enable the app again after a reboot.
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So strange. In my case the only thing I NEED to do for those apps to work is simply open the app and close it again. I haven't tried FluidNG yet but I expect the same results.
Edit: tried it. Same results indeed.
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cobben said:
You have them too.
Look in Settings/apps/, choose "all apps', then in 3 dots at upper right choose "show system".
Then scroll down to "face".
I found them via the firewall app Netguard, recommended.
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FWIW I have three facebook apps listed (after uninstalling the main app) - "Facebook App Installer", "Facebook App Manager" and "Facebook Services". Don't know what these do, so I just disabled them. They're disabled now so I'm hoping they can't get their podgy fingers involved in anything?
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FWIW I have three facebook apps listed (after uninstalling the main app) - "Facebook App Installer", "Facebook App Manager" and "Facebook Services". Don't know what these do, so I just disabled them. They're disabled now so I'm hoping they can't get their podgy fingers involved in anything?
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Yep, blocking them was recommended by someone already earlier in this thread. Good find either way.
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Yep, blocking them was recommended by someone already earlier in this thread. Good find either way.
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I have been tracking their potential attempts at internet access via Netguard, and there is none.
So they do seem to stay comfortably disabled.
The other preloaded apps that I repeatedly had to disable have also remained disabled for a week now, so that problem seems to have gone away.
(Or are they just waiting for a wakeup signal from the mothership? )
Have someone tried disabling apps using Island or similar Android-for-work software? It says that it can work without root by setting the software as a device owner using adb... Because with every possible app disabled (GP, FB, etc) their folders on Internal Storage still recreated after removal.