[Q] Google play services and google services framework - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys, I'm losing my mind over their wake and battery use. I'm on Slim 8.0 and franco r63 and already done the following:
Yeah, so I've turned OFF 'wake' in privacy manager, I've cancelled 'wake' permission in Android Tuner, I've disabled ads / location activity, and turned off sync and STILL I get ~40% drain from stinking GOOGLE SERVICES!!
Last night was last straw of me, so I wiped / reflashed SLIM 8.0 and franco kernel r63, set max CPU to ~1450, max GPU to ~380, downvolt ~25ma and waiting to see result.
WHY are google services such a PITA when it comes to WAKE and BATTERY USE when I've obviously disabled their ability to both WAKE and COMMUNICATE?
It's driven me absolutely BATTY. My wife's S4 has the same issue and I'm about to be DONE with all Google crap on her phone also.
I've google the issues and they are THOUSANDS of reports of similar problems.
If ANYBODY has a better idea I'd really appreciate it. Different ROM, different kernel, ANYTHING.

UPDATE: 4 hours 37 minutes > 90% left... with a lot of 9gagging in that time

Battery help thread linked in my signature.

Had the issue earlier today. Settings > Storage > Clear Cache > Reboot seems to have worked.

Make sure to not disable GPS, doing so for some reason will have that process constantly scan for location and keeping your device awake.
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Never heard of the 'GPS on' trick, but I checked location and no apps have requested location.
I tried to load a 'mini Gapps' package for SLIM but it's same story, device NEVER sleeps. No sync, no location, disabled 'wake' for the services, everything... glad I backed up the system with NO Gapps because I'll likely be restoring...
Really, really, really pathetic that SO many people have this program. What the hell is wrong with google??

Im convinced google play services is nsa spyware. Anyone care to prove me wrong? I would feel bette if you could. I have uninstalled it several times and it WILL NOT GO AWAY. And it uses more permissions than any other app I have. It will not stop running. It behaves like a virus in my opinion. Am I just a conspiracy nut?
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whodisname said:
Im convinced google play services is nsa spyware. Anyone care to prove me wrong? I would feel bette if you could. I have uninstalled it several times and it WILL NOT GO AWAY. And it uses more permissions than any other app I have. It will not stop running. It behaves like a virus in my opinion. Am I just a conspiracy nut?
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1. Google uses it for things like Analytics
2. Most apps depend on it as a framework to do things, hence the permissions
3. It updates in the background automatically
4. This is Android. Android means Google.
5. If you don't like that, switch to using the Amazon app store, or buy a crappy iOS device.

Well, I just removed it (it was a pita due to no recovery on phone so i gotta be delicate!) and maps still works. Thats the one app I cant live without. I havent checked everything yet but nothing I have used thus far seems affected. Used TB to remove market links.I use an alternate app store already. My phone runs MUCH faster. I will never own a crappy Iphone device!!!
Everything checked. All works.
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You don't need GPS ON, just freeze google play store and services and enjoy LONG battery life. Only thing that works for me 100% of the time....

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Google Play Store

Hi
how does one run Google Play Store from running whenever the F*&&@# it wants.
it only needs to run, when I want it to
This app is intrusive and a memory/process hog.
thx!!
haha yeah.. totally accept that.
its soo annoying.. and the same with maps too
If you want to prevent any app from running when you dont want them to, just install from google play "autostarts" its free, and there you choose which apps you want to prevent fron running
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the autostarts, I'm looking at isn't free. that's fine.
i don't have a problem disabling auto start programs.
the problem is apps relaunching themselves, just like Google Play, which runs whenever it thinks it needs to.
background data/storage change/app update/diaper change/my girlfriends has a hang nail...etc
this app along with others are ridiculously intrusive.
i control my phone, not google or some app developer.
terraterm said:
the autostarts, I'm looking at isn't free. that's fine.
i don't have a problem disabling auto start programs.
the problem is apps relaunching themselves, just like Google Play, which runs whenever it thinks it needs to.
background data/storage change/app update/diaper change/my girlfriends has a hang nail...etc
this app along with others are ridiculously intrusive.
i control my phone, not google or some app developer.
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Gemini app manager is free and controls autostart properties for app.
If you use it you will see apps such as the play store are set to run when wifi state changes, when you delete an app etc, you can change these settings so it won't start in such situations.
It helps quite a bit.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Gemini app manager is free and controls autostart properties for app.
If you use it you will see apps such as the play store are set to run when wifi state changes, when you delete an app etc, you can change these settings so it won't start in such situations.
It helps quite a bit.
Dave
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Thanks! it is usefull for me! ^_^
Tried Genimi, it can be a little hard to navigate its UI but it has a lot of options. Unfortunately Google Play will undo about half of the autorun conditions you set the next time you launch it manually.
yes, i'm also using Gemini app manager, but as spunker88, mentions, google play will reapply it's settings, when it's launched manually.
once again software, doing what it wants...
i want know the google play apps install apk file download from android market ?
it runs in the background and barely uses any memory. it stays running so it can notify you if updates are available as well as to open and load quickly. its not really intruding..
i prefer to update manually
I don't recommend it but I suppose if it's really bugging you you could always try freezing Play Store when you're not using it. You could use App Quarantine and create a widget to freeze/defrost it with 1 click. Not sure if it's going to even work or how this will affect your phone so don't blame me if you screw up your phone.
no freezing...I'll kill it as needed...thx
This is another universal curse of Android.. And sometimes this crap calls itself a service etc to tryto skirt task managers.... This permission needs to be banned from android...
These apps are so small the newer phones don't even leave the developers the standard lame excuse of "quick loading"...
It's my bloody phone.. I'll give permission...
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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if you actually notice the store hogging ram on a dual core 1.5ghz/1gb ram phone, you are insane.
kazzxtrismus said:
This is another universal curse of Android.. And sometimes this crap calls itself a service etc to tryto skirt task managers.... This permission needs to be banned from android...
These apps are so small the newer phones don't even leave the developers the standard lame excuse of "quick loading"...
It's my bloody phone.. I'll give permission...
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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It's a core Google app. If you want to stop it, root your phone, get a custom ROM, and don't flash Gapps. The phone is set to use Google Play for stuff like this, and barely uses any memory at all.
Stop complaining, and calm down. There are just some things you can't turn off on a phone...you know...kinda like on a computer.
PS: You can set apps to NOT auto-update in the app store settings.
I want running my android tablet ( the tablet running android 4.03 )
... I feel the same of the author of the topic..
If i want an app to run, i'll launch it.
Those answer are all blablabla.. i don't want app in background that i don't use. END.
For me it can drain even 0,001% of battery\ram but it's not the point.
Tried both gemini and autostarts.. as today..
Playstore old worked, the new one reset all settings and always on.
Maps work, but if u launch it , it will reset something, and u have to terminate the app from settings,apps..ecc.
With root must be a way to bypass those stupid apps from get permissions ecc..
Chooo

Speed improvements

Hey! tl;dr? Click here to go directly to the fast improvements post and disable some unwanted services.
Still want more fun disabling services? Read the second post.
Hi all,
I improved the speed of my G2 recently and felt that the community might appreciate this as well. It's probably not the "best guide" for everybody, but this is what I've done and it's worked nicely for me so far.
I recently got irritated at my phone being occasionally sluggish. So, when it was sluggish one time, I went to Manage applications->Running Applications, and saw that Facebook decided it wanted to start itself up in the background.
Now, I'm as big a fan as the next guy for having multi-tasking, but randomly starting an app in the background without my consent is not what I consider to be useful or resource-friendly. I decided to "freeze" the app using SD Maid (you can do this with Titanium Backup as well). Facebook is now in a frozen state so it will not launch itself at all. Ha!
What do I do about having no Facebook now? Well, there happens to be a great app on the Market called Fast for Facebook. This is quite an improvement over the sluggish and buggy Facebook app. I installed that and am having a blast with it so far.
I wanted to check for other apps that were dawdling in the background. So I looked again in Running Applications and found that Maps decided it wants to be running too. I went to the settings for the Maps application, and turned off Location reporting. Why would I want an app sucking my resources dry to alert the world where I am? I'm not that much of a socialite or stalker prey. I also turned off Automatic check-ins.
Previously, I'd gone through a few other apps and turned off automatic sync. Things like DropSync (to sync Dropbox), Tumblr, Google+, and Twitter are not necessary for me to have reviving themselves in the background. I should be the authoritarian ruler of all of the apps over my phone- no freedom here to run around as you please.
I set up a couple apps to run at odd hours of the night. I only need to have photos and documents synced probably once a day, so I set up Tasker to do it automatically while the phone is charging and connected to Wifi at around 4am. I've set up Titanium Backup to do backups something like every Tuesday night, Friday night, and Sunday night, each at like 4am as well; and upload those backups to Box. I want to use my phone fast when I use it during the day, and at night time it can take its time with these lesser-priority tasks while I'm asleep.
Email/Gmail and Messages still have notifications and syncing, as well as the occasional Pulse RSS feed notification. All else seems to be shutting up though, which is good. What I would really like to do is have Market update its apps automatically at like 4am, so it won't spend resources checking for updates in the background. I can't find how to do that though.
One app that really gets under my skin is Amazon Appstore. This guy runs in the background too- I've turned off its notifications but I'm pretty sure it'll still sit there sapping my resources. This one's a toughie because I want to uninstall or freeze it, but I want to still be able to get good free apps from it once a day. There have been some really good apps and some really bad ones, but the good ones are worth it to me.
I might add in more things to disable. It's been faster so far, so I'll see how it goes over a couple days. One last thing I did was install SetCPU. I use that now instead of CyanogenMod 7's built-in CPU stuff. I don't know if it's a placebo or not, but I seemed to notice a boost in performance from it (not instantly, but in general I see less lag).
Hope this helps someone, best of luck with all of your phones.
-Proxin
use watchdog to spy on what apps are actually running and using cpu in the background, lots of apps can be open in the background and not using anything cpuwise
demkantor said:
use watchdog to spy on what apps are actually running and using cpu in the background, lots of apps can be open in the background and not using anything cpuwise
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Watchdog is a great idea too, I forgot to mention that.
If anyone else has recommendations they are all welcome!
Proxin said:
Watchdog is a great idea too, I forgot to mention that.
If anyone else has recommendations they are all welcome!
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For speed improvements, i usually use titanum backup to remove alot of useless apps i dont use (which frees up alot of ram). then i supercharge my phone and set it to agressive. And i also change up the build prop.
I need to post my additions.
I realized that by disabling Facebook, I lost my contacts that I had from there. That's no good. So I re-enabled it.
Now, Facebook has a few select services it likes to let run in the background. One specific one is MediaUploadService. This runs even when you are Not uploading anything, which is ridiculous because it hogs your resources.
However, if you disable this service completely, you won't be able to upload any photos to Facebook from your phone.
SO, I set up a script to disable all of Facebook's services like this at once, and I use the app called Llama to execute this script every time Facebook exits. I set it up to call my enable script once Facebook is started, then 5 minutes after Facebook closes it disables all of the Facebook services.
Here is what I used...
Enable Facebook services:
Code:
su -c 'pm enable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.katana.service.MediaUploadService; pm enable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.katana.service.FacebookService; pm enable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.katana.service.BackgroundDetectionService; pm enable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.orca.push.mqtt.MqttPushService; '
Disable Facebook services:
Code:
su -c 'pm disable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.katana.service.MediaUploadService; pm disable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.katana.service.FacebookService; pm disable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.katana.service.BackgroundDetectionService; pm disable com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.orca.push.mqtt.MqttPushService; '
With this new ability to disable services, I took a look at Amazon AppStore's annoying service, and disabled it using this script with Llama like I did with Facebook:
Amazon Service Disable script
Code:
su -c 'pm disable com.amazon.venezia/com.amazon.venezia.service.UpdateService'
Proxin- note: old code said:
Next, I noticed SwypeConnect was keeping itself active, so I disabled it too (Swype never gets updates anyway, so I didn't see anything bad with doing this):
Code:
pm disable com.swype.android.inputmethod/com.swype.android.connect.ConnectClient
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There's an app on the Market called StartupManager, I used that to kill off extra startup services that were not necessary. Things like Youtube, MyTracks and Maps were starting up. My view is, why do these things start when I don't start them myself? I stopped the services and have seen some pretty good responsiveness so far.
Go to the market and search for an app called gemini manager. It needs root but you can disable autostart for all apps with it.
Also get LBE privacy guard- it will block apps from using gps/data which can also increase battery life
redspeed said:
Go to the market and search for an app called gemini manager. It needs root but you can disable autostart for all apps with it.
Also get LBE privacy guard- it will block apps from using gps/data which can also increase battery life
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Great, I'll look into those too- thanks
@proxin:
Amazing post! how do you find the path for each of those components inside a package?
I use the same method with Tasker (instead of llama). Perform a task (run shell command) on the exit of a App profile
Also, the .Mqtt. should be all lowercase (figured out after that service would not disable), like this:
com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.orca.push.mqtt.MqttPushService
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@proxin:
Amazing post! how do you find the path for each of those components inside a package?
I use the same method with Tasker (instead of llama). Perform a task (run shell command) on the exit of a App profile
Also, the .Mqtt. should be all lowercase (figured out after that service would not disable), like this:
com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.orca.push.mqtt.MqttPushService
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Thank you, hope it has helped! I found them by looking up their Running service name on Google, and seeing people's logcat errors on there elaborated them for me. So I'd try a search for "com.facebook.katana*MqttPushService" and Google would direct me to the proper one.
You're spot-on with the Mqtt needing to be lowercase, I found the same issue on mine and got pissed off when I saw that the Mqtt service was still running forgot to change the post to reflect it though. Thanks for the notice
Seems like the best method for using your phone properly is to do like we're doing, otherwise applications with poor choice in how they handle resources, will clutter up the phone.
Btw, I tried Gemini App Manager and it works well for disabling autostart in apps. LBE Privacy Guard is intense in how much it locks down your phone, but that's locked down it's even a bit too much for me haha. It's a great app and will work for many people though.
I've noticed maps running in the background many times. I didnt know you're able to switch this off, thanks for the info!
Killer1desireZ said:
I've noticed maps running in the background many times. I didnt know you're able to switch this off, thanks for the info!
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No problem, I don't recommend killing off the Maps service though as it's probably needed for some location service (in my case I need the cell tower location service for some Llama profiles)
That's just my case though. Before you disable the service, maybe see if you can turn off automatic location reporting in Latitude? Go into Latitude settings->Location Settings and change Location reporting and Automatic check-ins to be Off.
Hope this helps. It shouldn't disable the entire Maps service but maybe it will reduce the amount of check-ins that Maps does without your consent.
Perhaps one of the biggest performance hits in an Mid Spec Android phone is how many App's it's carrying.
It is generally a good idea to keep the App count low. A general rule of thumb is to have no more than 40~ user apps on your Device. Since you have less apps installed (some of which could be idling or actively operating in the backround), you'll have more free RAM/space in the internal storage which in turn will mean more speed/battery efficiency.
Hope this can be of help
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Perhaps one of the biggest performance hits in an Mid Spec Android phone is how many App's it's carrying.
It is generally a good idea to keep the App count low. A general rule of thumb is to have no more than 40~ user apps on your Device. Since you have less apps installed (some of which could be idling or actively operating in the backround), you'll have more free RAM/space in the internal storage which in turn will mean more speed/battery efficiency.
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I've heard this said too, but I've never seen evidence that the more apps you have installed = the more apps are actively running. It's definitely a good idea to have less installed, but I don't think they'll run in the background unless they have autostarting capabilities like you can monitor with Gemini App Manager.
This is just me without even a Bachelor's degree speculating and relaying my experience though, so don't take my word for it
I notice a definite lag once I go above a certain amount of apps. I uninstall 10 or so and its a rocket! But then again I have waaaay more then 40 probably like 100 or something
Maps doesn't have that option for me. Anyways uninstalled 20 apps
New fun things to try...
I enjoy GO Launcher Ex just as much as the next guy who uses it as the default Home application, but I don't enjoy it making multiple services of itself that do, literally nothing. What I noticed specifically was a service called GOMusic, taking up about 4MB of RAM which could be used for other, more useful things.
What I did to fix it was:
Code:
pm disable com.gau.go.launcherex/com.jiubang.ggheart.apps.desks.appfunc.mediamanagement.musicplay.MusicPlaybackService
My Google Music widget still works fine, so apparently the GOMusic thing was just a waste of RAM (unless someone can explain a good reason to leave it be?)
One more addition I did was that, I keep seeing SwypeConnect as a service and I don't like it. It shouldn't need to constantly connect, for me to simply use Swype whenever I do.
I tried two things, pretty sure the second fixed this:
Code:
pm disable com.nuance.swype.input/com.nuance.swype.input.SwypeConnect
pm disable com.naunce.swype.input/com.nuance.swype.connect.ConnectClient
And next, I saw that Google Voice had a Widget service that liked to hang out and sap my resources. This would be useful but I don't have a widget set, so I disabled it:
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.apps.googlevoice/.widget.WidgetService
That worked for me. I can still send and receive messages with Google Voice, so I still have the same functionality I need without having an extra service in my list.
Note that, as usual, these are easily reversible by using using "enable" instead of disable in that code block.
Hopefully this will help someone else as well.
New experimental service disabled; I had noticed multiple Maps services running whenever they pleased. I can do with a NetworkLocation service from Maps, because I use Llama for location profiles and all, but not a Prefetcher service for it.
Here is what I used to disable the Prefetcher service...
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.googlenav.prefetch.android.PrefetcherService
I haven't seen any negative effects from this so far, but I will update this if I do.
@Proxin
Hi there,
I'm realy like your entries here, but i cant get through with the scripts killing facebook services. Can you be more specifc pls how to set those scripts you mentioned in Llama?
i've just tried to do things you say with facebook background services and for maps' prefetcher, but it says Segmentation Fault, as far as i know , segfaults are not normal linux program response, right? without super user privileges it just says 'Killed' [i tried both because 'pm set-install-location' worked for me only without super user]
EDIT:
ok, i'm noob, i just had to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH, now pm doesn't segfault for me as superuser
hi can any ody guide me how to use those su commands with llama?? thanks

Package Disabler Pro and the newest Google Play Services

So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
are you root?
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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Zero problems here.
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johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
are you root?
No, I'm not rooted. Everything was going smooth until I got the new update to Google Play Services. I found that if you turned off the location services for your phone it would clear up but that only lasted maybe an hour before stuff started up again.
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
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BACARDILIMON said:
You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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i think if u go in with root exploer if u was rooted u find facebook in 2-3 spots. whatsapp gave me issues. i gave up on debloating. i have seen a few debloated roms that the dev went in and manually removed and made things work. freeze apps is no longer as simple as it once was .
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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hmmm weird...I have no problem with it.
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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rlsroufe said:
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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If I root, its when its been confirmed that Samsung Pay will work with one of those new root cloaking apps (one is an xposed module) works for it. If it does, I'll be back on root in no time.
My issue may be my phone. I couldn't get it to respond for anything, error messages that wouldn't go away long enough to type a letter. I factory reset and the error codes kept coming. Its going to be replaced.
dandroid7 said:
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
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It always fail when i try to delete stuff why ?
There is other way,
Try to use this app "App Package Disabler (Samsung)" - NO NEED ROOT
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler
Simple and easy to use

How to disable these errors?

many apps don't actually need Google play services to run properly. It's a huge battery hog, and since I only use the very occasional maps, and I check for app updates manually already anyway. I have it frozen with no ill effects for what I normally use, and enable when needed.
The only problem is that popup saying to enable them or the app won't run. I can disable notifications for Zedge and I don't care, but for something like my texting app, if I disable those ones I won't know about new messages either. The texting app itself, of course, runs just fine as well.
Please don't preach about how essential those services are, I know most users rely heavily on them. My situation is rare, I know that. Just looking to save battery without the hassle of those pretend warnings.
Pawprints1986 said:
many apps don't actually need Google play services to run properly. It's a huge battery hog, and since I only use the very occasional maps, and I check for app updates manually already anyway. I have it frozen with no ill effects for what I normally use, and enable when needed.
The only problem is that popup saying to enable them or the app won't run. I can disable notifications for Zedge and I don't care, but for something like my texting app, if I disable those ones I won't know about new messages either. The texting app itself, of course, runs just fine as well.
Please don't preach about how essential those services are, I know most users rely heavily on them. My situation is rare, I know that. Just looking to save battery without the hassle of those pretend warnings.
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Maybe, instead of freezing Google Play Services, you can manage the individual services that it has running(I can't remember the name of the app used to disable in-app services) to disable the battery hogging services while leaving the rest of the services going. This might trick the system into detecting that Google Play Services is running(this might stop the error message), but the services that are running will use very little battery(depending on which services you disable).
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Maybe, instead of freezing Google Play Services, you can manage the individual services that it has running(I can't remember the name of the app used to disable in-app services) to disable the battery hogging services while leaving the rest of the services going. This might trick the system into detecting that Google Play Services is running(this might stop the error message), but the services that are running will use very little battery(depending on which services you disable).
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Only issue with going that way is I've never found a comprehensive list as to what each service is needed for (for my needs mainly the play store, but also the occasional maps). Those are the only 2 things that truly don't run properly with all of those services stopped. With the apps I currently use that is. I know things could change, but for now at least...
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Excessive consumption Google Play Services

Hi, I've been with Google play Services since yesterday, draining my battery, they are always connected in the background.
I have deleted all the data, I have deleted the app updates but it is still the same.
Does anyone know what it is due to? any solution? format the phone?
Thank you.
Disable it when not needed.
Google Background Transport, Playstore and Gmail are dependencies of it. Even when behaving it's a power parasite.
If you factory reset the issue will likely return... don't attempt to fix it like that!
Clear system cache, use Device Care to clean storage, clear Google GMS data, disable Google Framework if present and Backup Transport*. Turn off Google Firebase.
You can also try deleting then recreating your Google account but like a factory reset don't expect miracles if you do... just wasted time.
*if consuming excess battery with screen off Backup Transport is a likely suspect.
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
elevation_ph said:
I have formatted the mobile and it is correct until I install a game from Google play where the following message appears "google play services will install additional components 3.6 megabytes that are necessary to use this application"
If you install any game that has that warning, it starts to drain the battery and get quite hot.
Any solution?
Until 3 days ago this did not happen to me, I updated my Wacth 4 classic and bought Streets of rage 4 from google play the problems started.
thank you
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Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie, hasn't been updated in 2.5 years, it's current load will be 2 yo this June with minimal maintenance. It's still snappy fast and stable. Security simply isn't an issue. What's not to like?
blackhawk said:
Keep the junkware off the device.
Update/upgrade at your own peril.
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What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
elevation_ph said:
What mean? I don, t update never? Only install apps from google play and i have a stock firmware from OTA of Samsung
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Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
blackhawk said:
Fair enough, good!
I have one game install and it's internet access is always firewall blocked. Just because it's on Playstore doesn't mean it's "safe".
Any Google services in general tend to be a pain and battery hogs. I normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed, that tones Google down a lot. Gmail, Playstore and Backup Transport are some of it's dependencies.
Firewall blocking Playstore after activating bought Playstore apps and also firewall blocking those apps themselves cuts down the constant Playstore lincense checks.
Karma Firewall uses very little battery however it's valuable logging feature is not functional on Android 10 and above. However it will still block apps, services and list those present. Lost is the time stamp of the app's last internet connection except on Android 9 and lower... this is a very useful feature.
For stock Androids other firewalls are available but many use a lot of battery. Not sure of a better alternative with low battery usage on Android 10 and higher. It may exist...
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I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
elevation_ph said:
I have Android 12 on my Note 20 Ultra.
What firewall recomended?
Thanks
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I don't know. Let me know if you find a good one.
I need one for my other N10+ running on Android 10...

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