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what the different with those screen protectors?

http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks

I don't use them ...
farwish said:
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter

I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.

PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin

grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.

PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.

nabbed said:
Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.

vioalas said:
Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.

Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.

okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.

Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.

Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!

vioalas said:
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...

s.m.knipe said:
I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.

mrvirginia said:
thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.

Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16

s.m.knipe said:
No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.

mrvirginia said:
guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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mrvirginia said:
ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.

I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?

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I wish...
My AT&T Note 4 is one of those "steep" curved black models and the top and bottom of the iVisor sticks (well 70% of it), and the side adhesive doesn't touch the phone's glass at all.
Sure it doesn't halo, but the sides don't adhere, leaving a gap for dust and general pocket "stuff" to get under the screen protector.
Also, the capacitive buttons became more annoying to use with the Moshi iVisor vs just your typical PET film. At least in my experience, not completely sure why tbh.
Ended up with a Zagg HDX, which does adhere with my phone's ridiculous screen curvature. Not bad but not glass, oh well. At least the AT&T store allowed me to return it :crying:

Can't we apply a second screen protector beneath the Moshi iVisor?
Also, do you have pictures of this protector installed on the Note 4?
Moshi has a 30-day Satisfaction Return Policy
munkypo7 said:
I wish...
My AT&T Note 4 is one of those "steep" curved black models and the top and bottom of the iVisor sticks (well 70% of it), and the side adhesive doesn't touch the phone's glass at all.
Sure it doesn't halo, but the sides don't adhere, leaving a gap for dust and general pocket "stuff" to get under the screen protector.
Also, the capacitive buttons became more annoying to use with the Moshi iVisor vs just your typical PET film. At least in my experience, not completely sure why tbh.
Ended up with a Zagg HDX, which does adhere with my phone's ridiculous screen curvature. Not bad but not glass, oh well. At least the AT&T store allowed me to return it :crying:
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Might just have to order one up.
I believe that the black/white areas just hide all the halos and mess.

arjun90 said:
Can't we apply a second screen protector beneath the Moshi iVisor?
Also, do you have pictures of this protector installed on the Note 4?
Moshi has a 30-day Satisfaction Return Policy
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I suppose you could, the adhesive only does around the edge of the iVisor.
I don't have pictures of it installed but I do of the bottom after a million installs, it's dirty on the bottom simply due to my stupidity in cleaning it and using a microfiber to dry instead of following the directions. My fault on the dirty-ness entirely, I even showed the AT&T rep and he said not to worry.
The AT&T store already took it back without any issues and refunded me the $48 + tax, so I'm fine. Granted not satisfied but for now the Zagg will have to do. For the record, the crying emoticon was for the fact it wasn;t as perfect as I had wished, not the I couldn't return it... my error in placing it there.
These pictures I took to send to my brother anyways showing the adhesive and how the screen curves, bear in mind, it's flat, just that the top of the glass is curved, so it in itself is 2.5D or whatever the term is but it's still a flat sheet of glass, therefore, for those of us special Note 4 owners with really curvy screens, we're still out of luck.
Imgur Album (just 4 shots): http://imgur.com/a/aOGue
Edit: Also, for reference, only the home button is actually cut out, all of the other things like the front facing camera, capacitive buttons, notification LED and Samsung branding have glass over them.

Our local AT&T store has these in stock..................will pick one up in the morning and report back.
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munkypoo7 said:
I suppose you could, the adhesive only does around the edge of the iVisor.
I don't have pictures of it installed but I do of the bottom after a million installs, it's dirty on the bottom simply due to my stupidity in cleaning it and using a microfiber to dry instead of following the directions. My fault on the dirty-ness entirely, I even showed the AT&T rep and he said not to worry.
The AT&T store already took it back without any issues and refunded me the $48 + tax, so I'm fine. Granted not satisfied but for now the Zagg will have to do. For the record, the crying emoticon was for the fact it wasn;t as perfect as I had wished, not the I couldn't return it... my error in placing it there.
These pictures I took to send to my brother anyways showing the adhesive and how the screen curves, bear in mind, it's flat, just that the top of the glass is curved, so it in itself is 2.5D or whatever the term is but it's still a flat sheet of glass, therefore, for those of us special Note 4 owners with really curvy screens, we're still out of luck.
Imgur Album (just 4 shots): http://imgur.com/a/aOGue
Edit: Also, for reference, only the home button is actually cut out, all of the other things like the front facing camera, capacitive buttons, notification LED and Samsung branding have glass over them.
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Does the iVisor glass stick to the actual display area of the Note 4 or just float in the air?

Thanks, I'm thinking about ordering one too. I might try without regretting. Is there some adhesive on the bezel sides as well?

arjun90 said:
Thanks, I'm thinking about ordering one too. I might try without regretting. Is there some adhesive on the bezel sides as well?
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I believe that the actual screen/display area does not stick at all with the Moshi. The only thing that sticks are the top, bottom and the actual thin sides.
I worry about the rainbow effect like with the Defender's built in screen protector.
The AT&T store wants $48. plus tax.

Here we go again. Smh..

Can't you buy and return if it doesn't fit right? You might as well order from Moshi's website. At least they have a 30-day return policy even for opened items. They have that satisfaction guarantee policy.
felloffthetruck said:
I believe that the actual screen/display area does not stick at all with the Moshi. The only thing that sticks are the top, bottom and the actual thin sides.
I worry about the rainbow effect like with the Defender's built in screen protector.
The AT&T store wants $48. plus tax.
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arjun90 said:
Can't you buy and return if it doesn't fit right? You might as well order from Moshi's website. At least they have a 30-day return policy even for opened items. They have that satisfaction guarantee policy.
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I'll buy it at the AT&T store in the morning and if it turns out to be crap I'll just get a refund there in the next day or so. Looks like a great idea but I'm worried about no adhesives behind the actual glass display areas.:silly:

Definitely take some pictures while you're at it.
If there is no adhesive behind the actual tempered glass in the display area, I might first install a regular PET Screen Protector that has full edge to edge coverage like the XtremeGuardz (6-Pack for $3 on eBay) and then overlay the PET film with the Moshi. At least that will even the coverage out. According to Moshi, their tempered glass is more rigid than Zagg's, Iloome's, and Otterbox; and I actually believe them.
Here are the screen protectors in my possession right now:
Otterbox Alpha Glass (being Returned for Refund)
Zagg Glass, Revised (Keeping as backup), costed me $14.29
Zagg HDX (Keeping as backup), costed me $13.60
iLoome Flex (Keeping as backup), costed me $19.99
Spigen Crystal PET Screen Protectors 3-Pack ($9.99)
6-Pack XtremeGuardz HD PET Screen Protectors ($2.99)- Excellent Coverage
6-Pack Supershieldz PET Screen Protectors ($4.99)- Coverage is so-so
1x Otterbox Commuter PET Screen Protector - Included with Purchase
*Italics denote that these purchases were negligible.
Tomorrow, I will be making the final decision between the Commuter and Defender Series cases, depends on what the fitment of the replacement case.
felloffthetruck said:
I'll buy it at the AT&T store in the morning and if it turns out to be crap I'll just get a refund there in the next day or so. Looks like a great idea but I'm worried about no adhesives behind the actual glass display areas.:silly:
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I'm going to pick one up in the morning and see what it's all about.
If the edges stick real good it would be perfect for the Otterbox commuter as It's rubber edges will seal the whole thing up nice.
I'll be the Guinea Pig and pick one up in the morning and give it a whirl.

This looks like the edge to edge screen protectors for iPhones; probably have the same "feature". The colored part has no glue and simply floats over the curved edge of the screen. This is not a curved screen protector; at least for iPhone, this works best for those wanting a thin case as the glass will float over the case making it seem more seamless. For those going naked, this will be very annoying.

I guess this will be good for those (like me) that really wanted to put a tempered glass screen protector along with the built in screen protector on the Defender Series case, but couldn't so. Definitely keep us posted, especially with pictures.
felloffthetruck said:
I'm going to pick one up in the morning and see what it's all about.
If the edges stick real good it would be perfect for the Otterbox commuter as It's rubber edges will seal the whole thing up nice.
I'll be the Guinea Pig and pick one up in the morning and give it a whirl.
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Kinda reminds me of built in screen protector found in the Otterbox Defender series case. Otterbox really failed this time around, and perhaps this might be a viable solution for me.
bleuiko said:
This looks like the edge to edge screen protectors for iPhones; probably have the same "feature". The colored part has no glue and simply floats over the curved edge of the screen. This is not a curved screen protector; at least for iPhone, this works best for those wanting a thin case as the glass till float over the case making it seem more seamless. For those going naked, this will be very annoying.
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I've ordered one from Moshi's website. Will need to see this in person as well. Might actually satisfy me more than Otterbox's Defender Series.

arjun90 said:
Thanks, I'm thinking about ordering one too. I might try without regretting. Is there some adhesive on the bezel sides as well?
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In the first picture I posted, I tried to catch that, so I may not have, but yes there is adhesive on the sides as well, which due to my Note's ridiculous curvature, didn't adhere, letting dust and all the general pocket dust slide right under the glass.
The glass portion on the screen has absolutely no adhesive, it's ever-so-slightly lifted due to the adhesive around the edges, which is why it never bubbles but can have crud caught under it.
Though, in all fairness, while any Otterbox case for me is an instant "no" (bulk), if you get a case that can essentially bite down on the sides preventing stuff from sliding in under the screen, you may have one hell of a winning combination

Guys, I am currently using the ivisor glass, see post#1880 on the tempered glass topic. Took some pix with 2 cases: samsung protective cover+ and otterbox commuter. The protective cover fits much better. It's like the ivisor was made to fit with the samsung covers. The commuter is a little tight on the 2 sides, corners go over the ivisor. Can't download pix right now cause i don't have cable or sd slot on my work PC to download from my camera. I'll try to upload pix this evening.

arjun90 said:
iVisor Glass for the Note 4, by Moshi
Next-generation IonGlass screen protector is stronger than tempered glass.
Complete edge-to-edge protection with a precision-tooled curved bezel.
Up to 40% thinner than generic glass screen protectors.
100% bubble-proof, scratch-proof and shock-proof.
Oleophobic surface-coating provides fingerprint resistance.
http://www.moshi.com/ivisor-glass-for-galaxy-note-4#black
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This glass only attaches at the top and bottom, not the sides. The glass itself is not curved, thus there will be a gap on both sides. What prevents dust, hair, dirt, lint, etc from getting in between the glass and the phone through these huge openings on both sides?
Thanks!
Greg

A good case like the samsung protective cover+ or cases that have similar fit. No dust so far in the 6 days of use.
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In my opinion I would not recommend the ivisor glass for people who do not use case or a case similar to the 2 case that I have tested. I think if you drop the phone and landed on any corner or side it would probably come off with the impact force as there is not enough adhesive surfaces.

Dealing with nasty scratch - tempered glass cover?

At some point when I wasn't watching, my note 4 seems to have found something sharp to fight with and there is a fairly nasty (can feel with fingertip) inch long scratch on the glass towards the bottom of the display.
Yes, I should have bought a cover, but having had 2 HTCs over the past 5 years without getting a single scratch I obviously thought I had some kind of anti-scratch super powers. (I am anti-scratch man, see me in an upcoming movie...). So anyway, obviously I was wrong.
I have been doing a bit of research and see suggestions that were I to get a tempered glass protector, then the silicone sticky would likely fill in the scratch and make it magically vanish when the cover was applied.
Is this true? If so, what cover would you recommend?
If false - any other solutions?
It is under warranty but I'm pretty sure Samsung don't cover "cosmetic damage" like scratches.
And apologies, this really isn't intended as "yet another cover thread" I know there are loads, but rather a "what cover will fix my ****" thread

i'm not sure of any solutions for you but i want to show you my experience with a small scratch (i could feel it with my finger tips and my finger nail would be able to feel the depth of it). I never heard of it filling in a scratch but thats not to say that its false but in my case i got the glass to cover it so i wouldn't feel it when using the spen (at times the spen would get stopped on the scratch)
https://goo.gl/photos/RitAZ9r5EA4hn47H8
This was my old note 3 and this is with the screen protector on. in my case it did not make the scratch vanish or get filled in but it did help with not being able to feel it was there.

It's not that true. It'll help a little, but it's mostly just marketing. Only real fix is to have the screen replaced.
Get a tempered glass so you don't feel the scratch and it'll also help disguise it from some angles, and after a few weeks you'll stop caring or paying attention to the scratch.

Well my display panel suddenly broken from inside showing no wear/shatters in the glass itself. But that's another story. Buying a tempered glass cover will hide those little scratches (those non-deep scratches that are only visible at a certain angle) and your screen will look like brand new. Unfortunately if you have a deep scratch it may hide it a lot but you will see a multicolor line (distorted pixels) and, in the worst case, an air bubble.

Clean and polish screen, fill in scratch with vaseline, polish again, apply tempered glass on top.

berniebennybernard said:
Clean and polish screen, fill in scratch with vaseline, polish again, apply tempered glass on top.
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Vasoline? Have you done this it sounds too good to be true. Does it matter which tempered glass?
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Droidatar said:
Vasoline? Have you done this it sounds too good to be true. Does it matter which tempered glass?
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First do not use vaseline it is a petroleum product and petroleum products dissolve other petroleum products.
what I mean by this is that the vaseline could potentially eat at the screen protector, " yes even the tempered glass ones " as they are coated with various films that are most likely made from petroleum based plastics.
However the person who suggested did touch on a good idea.
Instead of vaseline I would recommend " Silicone Grease " first because it's not petroleum based but second because it is thicker and will not melt/liquify when your phone gets warm in your pocket or during use.
You can find silicone grease in the plumbing dept. at any Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, Etc. it is usually used inside of faucets to coat the rubber seals within and is made to not deteriorate under extreme temperatures.
Keep some around as it's good for other things aswell.
Otherwise do as instructed above and polish, then apply enough silicone grease to fill in the scratch before finally applying your tempered glass if there are air bubbles after the first try apply more grease and re-apply your tempered glass if you still have air bubbles you could try using a vibrating sander " with the sandpaper removed " of-course. But I doubt that would be necessary.
If all goes well I doubt youll barely notice the scratch unless it is a rough one " meaning not a clean scratch "
Hope this helps

Tempered glass

I bought Xiaomi original tempered glass but now in the middle of my screen I have like an oily colored stain. Of course it's not oil but I think there is air between my screen and the tempered glass. Doesn't the tempered glass contain holes for the sound? I hope it's not my screen. But when I turn of my device I can see it too so I really think it's the tempered glass. Need a new one! Ordered one so we'll see.

Yeah I thought so too...
I bought two of them, thinking they would last for life LOL.
I installed the first one, and noticed that rainbow effect on anything that was a constant shade. I thought it was me. So I tried pulling it off and the tempered glass protector shattered in my hands. I thought it was stronger than that, given that it supposed to be almost scratch proof.
Anyhoot, put the second one one, tried to be hyper protective and clean. Same thing. They are garbage. Probably more to do with the fact that the protector floats over the phone's screen than actually on it. Hence creating a projector effect off the back side of the tempered glass. Seeing as the tempered glass is not a Nikon optics quality glass lens, it creates this rainbow effect.
I hated it.
Took it off and used a stick on one instead.

LormaD said:
I bought two of them, thinking they would last for life LOL.
I installed the first one, and noticed that rainbow effect on anything that was a constant shade. I thought it was me. So I tried pulling it off and the tempered glass protector shattered in my hands. I thought it was stronger than that, given that it supposed to be almost scratch proof.
Anyhoot, put the second one one, tried to be hyper protective and clean. Same thing. They are garbage. Probably more to do with the fact that the protector floats over the phone's screen than actually on it. Hence creating a projector effect off the back side of the tempered glass. Seeing as the tempered glass is not a Nikon optics quality glass lens, it creates this rainbow effect.
I hated it.
Took it off and used a stick on one instead.
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Its a phenomenon known as Newton rings, which is a circular interference pattern caused by the reflection of light between two objects.
And yes, it happens because the glass protector hovers above the screen. It has got nothing to do with the material of the particular protector though. It is the space itself which causes the effect.
It reduces considerably and becomes unnoticeable after a few days, possibly because the glass flexes gradually and lays flush with the screen due to the pressure when the phone is is in your pocket, etc.
The only thing I hate about the protector is, the black borders sometimes tend to cover parts of the actual display if there is even a slight mis-alignment. The protector is also very difficult to align precisely as it may partially cover the notification LED, if we try aligning it using the camera lens alone as a guide.
I've had 5 of these which seem to be from different suppliers/factories because the adhesive is weaker on some, some aren't shatter resistant while others are super flexible to a certain extent. Some have the issues I mentioned with alignment as I feel the cutouts aren't properly aligned on some and even the slightest variation will have you deciding whether you are willing to sacrifice a tiny part of the screen or a bit of the notification LED.
The first one I had was perfect and didn't have any issues. But a piece of stubborn dust or fibre got in between the protecfor and I couldn't get it off without damaging the clarity of the glass.
After 4 attempts at trying to get something as good as the 1st one I had, I kinda gave up on Full coverage option.
Now using a fully transparent full coverage flexible TPU film. These are extremely hard to install though. Took me 5 protectors to install without any issues and even despite that, there is a small spot of dust. Its not noticeable, so it doesn't bother me much though. The material attracts dust during installation and the adhesive on the film makes it hard to remove a dust particle. You get 3 in a pack and TPU has some moderate resistance to small impacts and scratches heal naturally. It sits between the regular PET film and tempered glass in the chain of hierarchy among screen protection.
Another downside of TPU apart from being hard to install is that it may turn yellowish after a period of time due to oxidation. The same thing that happens to even the most expensive transparent TPU cases.

liobeir said:
I bought Xiaomi original tempered glass but now in the middle of my screen I have like an oily colored stain. Of course it's not oil but I think there is air between my screen and the tempered glass. Doesn't the tempered glass contain holes for the sound? I hope it's not my screen. But when I turn of my device I can see it too so I really think it's the tempered glass. Need a new one! Ordered one so we'll see.
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May i ask where you have bought the original Xiaomi tempered glass? Is that an official Xiaomi product?
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satishp said:
Its a phenomenon known as Newton rings, which is a circular interference pattern caused by the reflection of light between two objects.
And yes, it happens because the glass protector hovers above the screen. It has got nothing to do with the material of the particular protector though. It is the space itself which causes the effect.
It reduces considerably and becomes unnoticeable after a few days, possibly because the glass flexes gradually and lays flush with the screen due to the pressure when the phone is is in your pocket, etc.
The only thing I hate about the protector is, the black borders sometimes tend to cover parts of the actual display if there is even a slight mis-alignment. The protector is also very difficult to align precisely as it may partially cover the notification LED, if we try aligning it using the camera lens alone as a guide.
I've had 5 of these which seem to be from different suppliers/factories because the adhesive is weaker on some, some aren't shatter resistant while others are super flexible to a certain extent. Some have the issues I mentioned with alignment as I feel the cutouts aren't properly aligned on some and even the slightest variation will have you deciding whether you are willing to sacrifice a tiny part of the screen or a bit of the notification LED.
The first one I had was perfect and didn't have any issues. But a piece of stubborn dust or fibre got in between the protecfor and I couldn't get it off without damaging the clarity of the glass.
After 4 attempts at trying to get something as good as the 1st one I had, I kinda gave up on Full coverage option.
Now using a fully transparent full coverage flexible TPU film. These are extremely hard to install though. Took me 5 protectors to install without any issues and even despite that, there is a small spot of dust. Its not noticeable, so it doesn't bother me much though. The material attracts dust during installation and the adhesive on the film makes it hard to remove a dust particle. You get 3 in a pack and TPU has some moderate resistance to small impacts and scratches heal naturally. It sits between the regular PET film and tempered glass in the chain of hierarchy among screen protection.
Another downside of TPU apart from being hard to install is that it may turn yellowish after a period of time due to oxidation. The same thing that happens to even the most expensive transparent TPU cases.
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You amaze me!

Holy hell. Got my tempered glass today and installed it. Because of the 2.5d corners it looks like ****!!
I can't do this to this master piece of a phone. Got to find a good "plastic" one.
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satishp said:
Its a phenomenon known as Newton rings, which is a circular interference pattern caused by the reflection of light between two objects.
And yes, it happens because the glass protector hovers above the screen. It has got nothing to do with the material of the particular protector though. It is the space itself which causes the effect.
It reduces considerably and becomes unnoticeable after a few days, possibly because the glass flexes gradually and lays flush with the screen due to the pressure when the phone is is in your pocket, etc.
The only thing I hate about the protector is, the black borders sometimes tend to cover parts of the actual display if there is even a slight mis-alignment. The protector is also very difficult to align precisely as it may partially cover the notification LED, if we try aligning it using the camera lens alone as a guide.
I've had 5 of these which seem to be from different suppliers/factories because the adhesive is weaker on some, some aren't shatter resistant while others are super flexible to a certain extent. Some have the issues I mentioned with alignment as I feel the cutouts aren't properly aligned on some and even the slightest variation will have you deciding whether you are willing to sacrifice a tiny part of the screen or a bit of the notification LED.
The first one I had was perfect and didn't have any issues. But a piece of stubborn dust or fibre got in between the protecfor and I couldn't get it off without damaging the clarity of the glass.
After 4 attempts at trying to get something as good as the 1st one I had, I kinda gave up on Full coverage option.
Now using a fully transparent full coverage flexible TPU film. These are extremely hard to install though. Took me 5 protectors to install without any issues and even despite that, there is a small spot of dust. Its not noticeable, so it doesn't bother me much though. The material attracts dust during installation and the adhesive on the film makes it hard to remove a dust particle. You get 3 in a pack and TPU has some moderate resistance to small impacts and scratches heal naturally. It sits between the regular PET film and tempered glass in the chain of hierarchy among screen protection.
Another downside of TPU apart from being hard to install is that it may turn yellowish after a period of time due to oxidation. The same thing that happens to even the most expensive transparent TPU cases.
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Can you link me.to the ones you ended up.sticking with? I want to buy.

I got this full coverage tempered glass from aliexpress and the 2nd pc is totally no newton rings and the glue on the side is stronger.... since then i ordered 2 more as spares...

nakedtoes said:
I got this full coverage tempered glass from aliexpress and the 2nd pc is totally no newton rings and the glue on the side is stronger.... since then i ordered 2 more as spares...
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Is it this one ? https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32778323114.html

nakedtoes said:
I got this full coverage tempered glass from aliexpress and the 2nd pc is totally no newton rings and the glue on the side is stronger.... since then i ordered 2 more as spares...
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Could you share the link please?
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LaNsLyDe said:
Is it this one ? https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32778323114.html
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For sure no, fullcoverage he wrote
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Curved screen and protectors

They said it would not cover the whole screen but I didn't think it would be this extreme. Looking straight down on the device you'd see pixels outside of the screen protector on both sides.

Riffue.cn
This one is wider and covers all the pixels, but since it does not follow the screen curve there's about 1.5mm of free hanging protector on each side.

Panzer.me
For this one they tried to curve it along the screen edge, but it didn't quite fit, which caused large areas where the protector would lift from the screen. The downwards facing edge of the protector seems to be covered in the glue like substance, the central area of the protector did not stick to the phone in any way. Possibly because of the bad fit there would be some air between the protector and phone in the middle of the screen, this caused some missed taps. Away of the center of the protector the touch recognition would be better. This one seemed the least susceptible to fingerprints.

Thank you for the testing.
So I will not buy one of these.
Maybe I will try a thin l foil or I will use it without any protection.

thanks to who invented these fu*king curved screens.. for us that always use glass protectors it is simply a nightmare.. or you use protectors as big as the pixeled area and live with the edges coming off, or you take protectors smaller than the pixeled area that looks bad and don't protect all the screen.. damn

curious to know if this curved glass would be any better?
https://www.roxfit.mobi/collections...ed-clear-tempered-glass?variant=2219880841228

I am on the road so I cant post any pics, but I have the roxfit curved protector. It does match the screen except the curve isn't perfect thus the very edge around the entire screen is collecting dust. With the screen sensitivity issue however I'm debating on pulling it off. Hitting the same button 2-3 times to get something to register sucks

To be honest, this is what is putting me off buying this phone is the curved screen, i really dont see the point of it to be honest, tempted to jusct pick up the XZ1 compact instead.

You really can't even tell the screen is curved at all. Just the edges are slightly. It's not even noticeable.

yeah if the curved screen is the only thing preventing you from getting this phone, forget it, apart from this (and you'll notice just if you use glass protectors) the phone is simply wonderful in all other aspects l

mattnathaniel12 said:
You really can't even tell the screen is curved at all. Just the edges are slightly. It's not even noticeable.
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FcukBloat said:
yeah if the curved screen is the only thing preventing you from getting this phone, forget it, apart from this (and you'll notice just if you use glass protectors) the phone is simply wonderful in all other aspects l
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Thanks both, best go and check it out in person, perhaps judging it before i have seen it in my hand is a bit negative.
Thanks

Bugs of a new phone. The protector I got also overhanged into the curve. (I was under the impression that it was a curved screen protector when buying it, but it was not.) I assume these companies didn't have exact specs or physical phones to get it perfect with, and since we all want our phones protected from day one, they have to release what they got. :/

Has anyone found a screen protector that fits halfway decently yet?

i used a liquid screen protector called nanofixit in the netherlands. it makes the screen super smooth and didn't have a scratch after a week usage without any case. i had to send it back for repair and will have it back tomorrow.

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mattnathaniel12 said:
I am on the road so I cant post any pics, but I have the roxfit curved protector. It does match the screen except the curve isn't perfect thus the very edge around the entire screen is collecting dust. With the screen sensitivity issue however I'm debating on pulling it off. Hitting the same button 2-3 times to get something to register sucks
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I've tried this one as well and might have a worse fit than what you're experiencing. It was impossible to get a complete seal in the glue around the edge. The bad fit made the center of the screen an especially bad place the get touches registered, even worse then the panzer.me glass. IIRC there was also a shimmering issue between the edge of the LCD and whatever non-stick film they've put under the protector.
Does curved screen protectors exist for other phones that does not rely on a glue around the edges to stay put?

nanofixit
Dxue said:
i used a liquid screen protector called nanofixit in the netherlands. it makes the screen super smooth and didn't have a scratch after a week usage without any case. i had to send it back for repair and will have it back tomorrow.
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Based on threads in this forum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories/nanofixit-liquid-screen-protector-nano-t3215739
and amazon reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Nanofixit-ONE-Titanium-OFFICAL-antibacterial/product-reviews/B019Y4IPU4
it seems the nanofixit products might not be worth the asking price. (Scam perhaps?)
Did you get your phone back? What was the issue? Do you usually get scratches on phones in a weeks time?
I'm asking because fail to see how a thin layer of liquid could provide any scratch resistance, besides whatever the screen already has. And as such it might just make liquid slide off the screen easily for a while and not much else.

It is my belief the nano liquid products are a scam. Granted I've never tried it myself.....but I don't see how it could possibly work.

Based on threads in this forum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-nano-t3215739
and amazon reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/Nanofixit-ONE...ews/B019Y4IPU4
it seems the nanofixit products might not be worth the asking price. (Scam perhaps?)
Did you get your phone back? What was the issue? Do you usually get scratches on phones in a weeks time?
I'm asking because fail to see how a thin layer of liquid could provide any scratch resistance, besides whatever the screen already has. And as such it might just make liquid slide off the screen easily for a while and not much else.
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It is my belief the nano liquid products are a scam. Granted I've never tried it myself.....but I don't see how it could possibly work.
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it was my misstake for not being clearer when posting my message, I have another problem with the phone which is not related to the screen at all. My phone can't receive incoming calls for some reason. The screen is still in a tip top shape and i have also accidentally dropped the phone on a stone floor from around 0,5 meters. Nothing to see on the screen (or the phone for that matter). The reason that it can work in my opinion is that you can have very hard plastic nowadays that is not worse than metal (see carbon fiber for example). If they can keep it in a liuid state and it can harden itself out when in contact with air, why is it not possible? Chemistry is nowadays so advanced I wouldn't be surprised if they can make even better nano coatings, if you have enough money for it

Bought Skinomi's protector and it was a perfect fit. It is not a hard screen protector its more of a clear flexible skin. Due to it being flexible it molded right to the curved edges of the screen without any issues. Until they come up with a hard protector this should do just fine though, atleast itll keep minor scuffs and scratches to a minimum.

Ultimate Shield seems to do its job - at least for me. Uses glue to stick, but covers the whole screen. Makes a bit harder to register touch sometimes.