I bought Xiaomi original tempered glass but now in the middle of my screen I have like an oily colored stain. Of course it's not oil but I think there is air between my screen and the tempered glass. Doesn't the tempered glass contain holes for the sound? I hope it's not my screen. But when I turn of my device I can see it too so I really think it's the tempered glass. Need a new one! Ordered one so we'll see.
Yeah I thought so too...
I bought two of them, thinking they would last for life LOL.
I installed the first one, and noticed that rainbow effect on anything that was a constant shade. I thought it was me. So I tried pulling it off and the tempered glass protector shattered in my hands. I thought it was stronger than that, given that it supposed to be almost scratch proof.
Anyhoot, put the second one one, tried to be hyper protective and clean. Same thing. They are garbage. Probably more to do with the fact that the protector floats over the phone's screen than actually on it. Hence creating a projector effect off the back side of the tempered glass. Seeing as the tempered glass is not a Nikon optics quality glass lens, it creates this rainbow effect.
I hated it.
Took it off and used a stick on one instead.
LormaD said:
I bought two of them, thinking they would last for life LOL.
I installed the first one, and noticed that rainbow effect on anything that was a constant shade. I thought it was me. So I tried pulling it off and the tempered glass protector shattered in my hands. I thought it was stronger than that, given that it supposed to be almost scratch proof.
Anyhoot, put the second one one, tried to be hyper protective and clean. Same thing. They are garbage. Probably more to do with the fact that the protector floats over the phone's screen than actually on it. Hence creating a projector effect off the back side of the tempered glass. Seeing as the tempered glass is not a Nikon optics quality glass lens, it creates this rainbow effect.
I hated it.
Took it off and used a stick on one instead.
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Its a phenomenon known as Newton rings, which is a circular interference pattern caused by the reflection of light between two objects.
And yes, it happens because the glass protector hovers above the screen. It has got nothing to do with the material of the particular protector though. It is the space itself which causes the effect.
It reduces considerably and becomes unnoticeable after a few days, possibly because the glass flexes gradually and lays flush with the screen due to the pressure when the phone is is in your pocket, etc.
The only thing I hate about the protector is, the black borders sometimes tend to cover parts of the actual display if there is even a slight mis-alignment. The protector is also very difficult to align precisely as it may partially cover the notification LED, if we try aligning it using the camera lens alone as a guide.
I've had 5 of these which seem to be from different suppliers/factories because the adhesive is weaker on some, some aren't shatter resistant while others are super flexible to a certain extent. Some have the issues I mentioned with alignment as I feel the cutouts aren't properly aligned on some and even the slightest variation will have you deciding whether you are willing to sacrifice a tiny part of the screen or a bit of the notification LED.
The first one I had was perfect and didn't have any issues. But a piece of stubborn dust or fibre got in between the protecfor and I couldn't get it off without damaging the clarity of the glass.
After 4 attempts at trying to get something as good as the 1st one I had, I kinda gave up on Full coverage option.
Now using a fully transparent full coverage flexible TPU film. These are extremely hard to install though. Took me 5 protectors to install without any issues and even despite that, there is a small spot of dust. Its not noticeable, so it doesn't bother me much though. The material attracts dust during installation and the adhesive on the film makes it hard to remove a dust particle. You get 3 in a pack and TPU has some moderate resistance to small impacts and scratches heal naturally. It sits between the regular PET film and tempered glass in the chain of hierarchy among screen protection.
Another downside of TPU apart from being hard to install is that it may turn yellowish after a period of time due to oxidation. The same thing that happens to even the most expensive transparent TPU cases.
liobeir said:
I bought Xiaomi original tempered glass but now in the middle of my screen I have like an oily colored stain. Of course it's not oil but I think there is air between my screen and the tempered glass. Doesn't the tempered glass contain holes for the sound? I hope it's not my screen. But when I turn of my device I can see it too so I really think it's the tempered glass. Need a new one! Ordered one so we'll see.
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May i ask where you have bought the original Xiaomi tempered glass? Is that an official Xiaomi product?
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Its a phenomenon known as Newton rings, which is a circular interference pattern caused by the reflection of light between two objects.
And yes, it happens because the glass protector hovers above the screen. It has got nothing to do with the material of the particular protector though. It is the space itself which causes the effect.
It reduces considerably and becomes unnoticeable after a few days, possibly because the glass flexes gradually and lays flush with the screen due to the pressure when the phone is is in your pocket, etc.
The only thing I hate about the protector is, the black borders sometimes tend to cover parts of the actual display if there is even a slight mis-alignment. The protector is also very difficult to align precisely as it may partially cover the notification LED, if we try aligning it using the camera lens alone as a guide.
I've had 5 of these which seem to be from different suppliers/factories because the adhesive is weaker on some, some aren't shatter resistant while others are super flexible to a certain extent. Some have the issues I mentioned with alignment as I feel the cutouts aren't properly aligned on some and even the slightest variation will have you deciding whether you are willing to sacrifice a tiny part of the screen or a bit of the notification LED.
The first one I had was perfect and didn't have any issues. But a piece of stubborn dust or fibre got in between the protecfor and I couldn't get it off without damaging the clarity of the glass.
After 4 attempts at trying to get something as good as the 1st one I had, I kinda gave up on Full coverage option.
Now using a fully transparent full coverage flexible TPU film. These are extremely hard to install though. Took me 5 protectors to install without any issues and even despite that, there is a small spot of dust. Its not noticeable, so it doesn't bother me much though. The material attracts dust during installation and the adhesive on the film makes it hard to remove a dust particle. You get 3 in a pack and TPU has some moderate resistance to small impacts and scratches heal naturally. It sits between the regular PET film and tempered glass in the chain of hierarchy among screen protection.
Another downside of TPU apart from being hard to install is that it may turn yellowish after a period of time due to oxidation. The same thing that happens to even the most expensive transparent TPU cases.
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You amaze me!
Holy hell. Got my tempered glass today and installed it. Because of the 2.5d corners it looks like ****!!
I can't do this to this master piece of a phone. Got to find a good "plastic" one.
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satishp said:
Its a phenomenon known as Newton rings, which is a circular interference pattern caused by the reflection of light between two objects.
And yes, it happens because the glass protector hovers above the screen. It has got nothing to do with the material of the particular protector though. It is the space itself which causes the effect.
It reduces considerably and becomes unnoticeable after a few days, possibly because the glass flexes gradually and lays flush with the screen due to the pressure when the phone is is in your pocket, etc.
The only thing I hate about the protector is, the black borders sometimes tend to cover parts of the actual display if there is even a slight mis-alignment. The protector is also very difficult to align precisely as it may partially cover the notification LED, if we try aligning it using the camera lens alone as a guide.
I've had 5 of these which seem to be from different suppliers/factories because the adhesive is weaker on some, some aren't shatter resistant while others are super flexible to a certain extent. Some have the issues I mentioned with alignment as I feel the cutouts aren't properly aligned on some and even the slightest variation will have you deciding whether you are willing to sacrifice a tiny part of the screen or a bit of the notification LED.
The first one I had was perfect and didn't have any issues. But a piece of stubborn dust or fibre got in between the protecfor and I couldn't get it off without damaging the clarity of the glass.
After 4 attempts at trying to get something as good as the 1st one I had, I kinda gave up on Full coverage option.
Now using a fully transparent full coverage flexible TPU film. These are extremely hard to install though. Took me 5 protectors to install without any issues and even despite that, there is a small spot of dust. Its not noticeable, so it doesn't bother me much though. The material attracts dust during installation and the adhesive on the film makes it hard to remove a dust particle. You get 3 in a pack and TPU has some moderate resistance to small impacts and scratches heal naturally. It sits between the regular PET film and tempered glass in the chain of hierarchy among screen protection.
Another downside of TPU apart from being hard to install is that it may turn yellowish after a period of time due to oxidation. The same thing that happens to even the most expensive transparent TPU cases.
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Can you link me.to the ones you ended up.sticking with? I want to buy.
I got this full coverage tempered glass from aliexpress and the 2nd pc is totally no newton rings and the glue on the side is stronger.... since then i ordered 2 more as spares...
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I got this full coverage tempered glass from aliexpress and the 2nd pc is totally no newton rings and the glue on the side is stronger.... since then i ordered 2 more as spares...
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Is it this one ? https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32778323114.html
nakedtoes said:
I got this full coverage tempered glass from aliexpress and the 2nd pc is totally no newton rings and the glue on the side is stronger.... since then i ordered 2 more as spares...
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Could you share the link please?
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LaNsLyDe said:
Is it this one ? https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/32778323114.html
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For sure no, fullcoverage he wrote
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Related
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
I don't use them ...
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http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
nabbed said:
Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.
Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.
okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.
Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!
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Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.
I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?
I purchased a Sir Lancelot Armor tempered glass screen protector for my nexus 4.
Generally, I like this product. Perfect cutout, white cover makes my nexus 4 special, and also the glass feeling is much better than the plastic screen protectors or matts.
Only one big problem is that after applied on, the newton rings shown up. For those whose don't know about newton rings, you can search from wiki. Simply, newton rings is a natural physics phenomenon, one pattern of Thin-film interference. The root cause is that there is a very small gap between your phone screen and the glass protector. This small gap is about a light wavelength (0.005 mm).
Solutioins:
Some solutions online instructs to put thin layer of baby powder between the glass and phone screen. I tried that and it "works". This is because the baby powder increase the gap to be larger than 0.005 mm. However, the thin layer of baby powder makes the screen blurry and unclear. It will look just like a thick finger prints ALWAYS ON. (This is also the solution i got from Sir Lancelot Armor.)
My Solution:
1. Use "Gasket Remover" or "Acetone" to remover the originally adhesive on the glass. Make the glass completely clear without any sticky "glue"/"jel" left on.
2. Apply Scotch Double Sided Tapes ( I use 3M) on the boundary of the glass. ( it serves as the bond between your glass and phone screen).
After that, you will notice that there isn't any newton rings showing up. The reason is that the Scotch tapes is about 0.1 mm thick. This gap will not cause and interference of the light; then no Newton Rings.
This 0.1 mm gap is big compared to the 0.005 mm. But it would not cause any loss of sensitivity of your screen control.
Downside: the newton rings would not show up because of the 0.1 mm gap. However, if you press down the glass/screen hard, a small newton ring will show up at your finger tip. Once you unpressed, the newton Ring would be gone.
I can live with this other than the before situation (Pictures are shown for before FIXED).
Thanks~
Thanks for the info, I do notice some in the middle of mine on my first install. However, I found out there are gaps in the adhesive which doesn't stick well. So I used my heat gun to heat the corner of the tempered glass when applying it to help it seal better so I don't see it now I think.
But good info to know, especially using acetone to clean the adhesive.
eksasol said:
Thanks for the info, I do notice some in the middle of mine on my first install. However, I found out there are gaps in the adhesive which doesn't stick well. So I used my heat gun to heat the corner of the tempered glass when applying it to help it seal better so I don't see it now I think.
But good info to know, especially using acetone to clean the adhesive.
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Which tempered glass you are using? Sir Lancelot Armor?
I think your method is even better. But generically, I think my glass is a defective one. Its flatness is not well control. When I clear of all the original adhesive, i press the glass on the phone screen and still saw the newton rings. So I think my glass comes with a little "bowed" in the middle.
Anyway, maybe most people get good conforming glass because i can't find many threads about this issues.
I'm using iloome.
Base on the cgi, it looks like the side bezel for the Sir Lancelot version might be a little thin, it might contribute to it.
can i buy this--------------------- http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Nexus-4-...eplacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3cd5b9f150--- and use the scotch tape method for a glass screen protector it covers the curved edges
Newton rings
Thank you , I kinda knew that it was because some sort of pressure to the screen but I thought the cover was responsible of that, but it didn't stop appearing when I removed so I supposed it was a problem with the screen itself.
If I didn't remove the screen protector will the screen be harmed ?
*OP 3T*
Just received Niilken 9H+ tempered glass screen protector from www.cbay.co.nz
Handful of cleaning agents included with the protector.
1. Wet cleaning cloth
2. Dry cleaning cloth
3. Adhesive film to remove dust
4. Wiping cloth
5. Extra stickers to hold the protector without directly touching
Unfortunately, the one I received did not fully adhere to the screen. There were gaps all around the protector border, and refused to set properly even after firmly pressing it down.
It did not affect s-pen functionality nor front camera, but it could have been better.
Overall, otherwise looks good and does its job as one of the first tempered glass protectors for note 4.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
mkim055 said:
That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvious" curve at the edge of the screen. Most (all current?) tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvoius" curve at the edge of the screen. most tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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You are right, I actually misread that as 2.5D for screen protector. I am aware of the screen curvature starting within the viewing screen.
Thank you though.
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iloome is currently the only company who is making a Note 4 tempered glass screen protector that is designed to fit OVER the 2.5D curved edges,
All other pieces will either stop short of the curve or will have issues adhering.
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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"Pretty scratch resistant" isn't "completely immune to scratches". The point being that if you cover your phone with a protector no matter what happens (short of a drop/stanley knife) you're quite literally covered. Having a decent screen protector, glass or not, along with a case means you can throw your phone into a pocket with a bunch of keys with little regard to how your phone will fare.
I'd much rather have to replace a £5-15 protector than realise at some point that there's a scratch on the actual glass on my screen. You can't go back from that - you can replace protectors easily. People have different usage profiles, just because your 3 phones are scratch free, doesn't mean that others won't want to protect theirs.
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Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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I always thought the same, but afraid to try it.... anybody else not use any protection and not get scratches?
Your right I have friends that are tradesmen, and I wouldn't go without a screen protector if I was them. I wouldn't go with a high even phone either.
But in my case my G3 / Note 4 is in my pocket and just my phone alone. Maybe that's why. I don't put my phone inside with coins or keys. That's asking for trouble
Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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One of the reviewers Note 4s screen got scratched during use after a few days(can't remember which site it way). I also remember seeing a video where Gorilla Glass gets microscopic scratches without a protector and these scratches make the whole structure weaker and more prone to shatter when dropped.
Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.
Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.
Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.
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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.
I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
I don't. Each to their own I guess.
Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.
Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass
My protection
In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.
i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.
I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough
I never use screen protector.
chiruscan said:
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.
I just received my IMAK glass screen protector. Purchased this on AliExpress. Here are some photos of it and how I installed it. I used the 3 stickers to make a hinge after it's positioned correctly. That way I just have to remove the backing and then stick it. I'll just seperate my review into pros and cons.
Pros:
-The screen protector fits nicely. I chose this one because it has the little speaker cut out on top.
-It feels good because it is glass.
-It protects the screen well because it is glass.
Cons:
-It is glass so it has some thickness to it.
-Holds fingerprints more than screen itself
-It has a little orange peel so it's not crystal clear. You can see in the picture of the reflection of the light that it looks a little muddy instead of mirror like.
Overall, it's good for the price, but not perfect. Personally I'm back and forth between glass and film screen protectors. I'll give this a try for a few weeks and then make a final decision.
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Those guiding stickers are ingenious, never seen them before and the idea is just so simple and clever!!
Perfect, I know what I have to do when my phone and Nillkin protector arrive.
Thanks for sharing.
That is a lot nicer than the Riffue Tempered Glass screen protector I bought on Amazon. This one is thin and has a good height but is several mm too narrow, it doesn't even cover the LCD display let alone the entire screen/glass.
the one i order covers like half of the screen lmao wtf
just ordered one like yours.
I had one similar too this, but the dust collected over front camera under the glass.
It has some glue on it, does this IMAK one used static?
Here is a link to the one i bought.
I tried many different ones but for me this is the best.
The coating is very good against fingerprints. It fits perfect on the screen.
The sides of the screen are a little bit curved down which is good for the dust.
Updated link https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ima...lgo_pvid=6f18e507-ed27-486a-869e-418c35f3a452
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Here is a link to the one i bought.
I tried many different ones but for me this is the best.
The coating is very good against fingerprints. It fits perfect on the screen.
The sides of the screen are a little bit curved down which is good for the dust.
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?spm=a2g0s.9042647.0.0.JDCsAY&orderId=87369620878335&productId=32835736602
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The link you've sent is private, I think we can't view it.
kurtextrem said:
The link you've sent is private, I think we can't view it.
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Try this one : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ima...lgo_pvid=6f18e507-ed27-486a-869e-418c35f3a452
Do it sticks in all the area? or only in borders?
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Do it sticks in all the area? or only in borders?
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All the area.
Got the IMAK today and it is on and I LOVE it!!
Like there is no screenprotector there at all.
Will purchase some more rightaway.
EDIT: Never seen something fit so well!!
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Got the IMAK today and it is on and I LOVE it!!
Like there is no screenprotector there at all.
Will purchase some more rightaway.
EDIT: Never seen something fit so well!!
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I agree, this is the best screenprotector i have ever bought. It fits perfect and the coating feels the same as on the original screen :good::good:
Just wanted to echo everyone else about how great the Imak full coverage screen protector is. I went through four different screen protectors so far (unknown brand thin plastic one, MOFI tempered glass, another MOFI tempered glass, and finally the IMAK full coverage)
The thin plastic one came bundled with the phone and would scratch if you so much as raised your voice at it. Placed it on just as a temporary protector while waiting for the others to come from Aliexpress. It just barely covered the display and left about 1.5mm of space on the edges. The phone was accidentally smacked out of my hand once and landed on a sandy floor face down, which I later discovered upon removal of the screen protector had caused a small chip on the screen near the edge, so the protector might have absorbed some of the impact.
The first MOFI tempered glass I got was a "full coverage" one, but it arrived with notches cut out on the bottom where the proximity sensor and front camera are. The worst thing about this one was that it only had adhesive on the edges, so there was a really distracting and noticeable rainbow effect (newton rings) in the middle of the screen.
The second MOFI tempered glass was also full coverage, and this time it didn't have notches at the bottom, just a hole cutout where the proximity sensor is located. The adhesive type was the same as the previous one, edge only, resulting in the newton ring effect. It also mysteriously cracked for no reason.
The one I have on currently is the IMAK full coverage screen protector. Indisputably the best out of all of them, the protector fits exactly over the entire front glass, and instead of cutout holes at the bottom, the chin at the bottom is fully glass, blackened except for where the proximity sensor and front camera are. Full adhesive all throughout means there is no rainbow effect, and the LED notification light is even tinted slightly so that it blends in with the chin, and is invisible until it turns on! The only flaw about this screen protector (yes, there is one) is that the area underneath the front camera is too thin to apply adhesive, so as a result there's a tiny gap between the glass and phone that can let in dust after a while. The dust does not seem to affect the front camera, and I never take selfies anyway, but I have yet to figure out a good way to get the dust out of there.
I have never had a screen protector fit this perfectly, even for phones other than the Mi Mix 2. Most other screen protectors have cutouts for the proximity sensor/front camera/both, but this one blends in so well that it feels like it's not even there.
Does anyone know if this protector has a dot matrix on the screen (tiny dots that reflect)? I purchased a Misha 3D protector from Amazon which looks identical to this, and it's great except for the grid of dots across the screen.
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Does anyone know if this protector has a dot matrix on the screen (tiny dots that reflect)? I purchased a Misha 3D protector from Amazon which looks identical to this, and it's great except for the grid of dots across the screen.
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When I tried it there were no dots, just very reflective and had a weird smudge pattern going on which ruined it.
The flossmall one posted elsewhere is so much better.
Lol those kind of screen protectors damn sucks, they are not full glue, so that make lot of reflections. The nillkin (regular tempered glass, full glue, no black borders), is perfect and cover all the display... So why buy this imak piece of ****?
Zedramus said:
Just wanted to echo everyone else about how great the Imak full coverage screen protector is. I went through four different screen protectors so far (unknown brand thin plastic one, MOFI tempered glass, another MOFI tempered glass, and finally the IMAK full coverage)
The thin plastic one came bundled with the phone and would scratch if you so much as raised your voice at it. Placed it on just as a temporary protector while waiting for the others to come from Aliexpress. It just barely covered the display and left about 1.5mm of space on the edges. The phone was accidentally smacked out of my hand once and landed on a sandy floor face down, which I later discovered upon removal of the screen protector had caused a small chip on the screen near the edge, so the protector might have absorbed some of the impact.
The first MOFI tempered glass I got was a "full coverage" one, but it arrived with notches cut out on the bottom where the proximity sensor and front camera are. The worst thing about this one was that it only had adhesive on the edges, so there was a really distracting and noticeable rainbow effect (newton rings) in the middle of the screen.
The second MOFI tempered glass was also full coverage, and this time it didn't have notches at the bottom, just a hole cutout where the proximity sensor is located. The adhesive type was the same as the previous one, edge only, resulting in the newton ring effect. It also mysteriously cracked for no reason.
The one I have on currently is the IMAK full coverage screen protector. Indisputably the best out of all of them, the protector fits exactly over the entire front glass, and instead of cutout holes at the bottom, the chin at the bottom is fully glass, blackened except for where the proximity sensor and front camera are. Full adhesive all throughout means there is no rainbow effect, and the LED notification light is even tinted slightly so that it blends in with the chin, and is invisible until it turns on! The only flaw about this screen protector (yes, there is one) is that the area underneath the front camera is too thin to apply adhesive, so as a result there's a tiny gap between the glass and phone that can let in dust after a while. The dust does not seem to affect the front camera, and I never take selfies anyway, but I have yet to figure out a good way to get the dust out of there.
I have never had a screen protector fit this perfectly, even for phones other than the Mi Mix 2. Most other screen protectors have cutouts for the proximity sensor/front camera/both, but this one blends in so well that it feels like it's not even there.
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After putting the screen protector on, I take a toothpick and put some glue from a Pritt-stick in the little gap underneath the camera. Not much, just enough to close the gap. When it has dried you can color it with a black whiteboard marker if you want. When you remove the screen protector you can easily rub it off. Works great for me :good:
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Anyone tried these?
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...Front-2PCS-Back-Soft/1879465_32831400367.html
Looking to buy this phone, any new news on protectors, or is IMAK our best option?
Thanks