Niilken 9H+ tempered glass protector - Galaxy Note 4 Accessories

Just received Niilken 9H+ tempered glass screen protector from www.cbay.co.nz
Handful of cleaning agents included with the protector.
1. Wet cleaning cloth
2. Dry cleaning cloth
3. Adhesive film to remove dust
4. Wiping cloth
5. Extra stickers to hold the protector without directly touching
Unfortunately, the one I received did not fully adhere to the screen. There were gaps all around the protector border, and refused to set properly even after firmly pressing it down.
It did not affect s-pen functionality nor front camera, but it could have been better.
Overall, otherwise looks good and does its job as one of the first tempered glass protectors for note 4.
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Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.

jah said:
Wrong forum thread. The reason the glass does not fit properly is because of the 2.5D screen shape at the edges.
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That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.

mkim055 said:
That is not the reason. 2.5D is for the top surface, not underneath.
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He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvious" curve at the edge of the screen. Most (all current?) tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.

SquidgyB said:
He's quite right, on both counts.
The phone's screen curves almost imperceptibly before it gets to the "obvoius" curve at the edge of the screen. most tempered glass protectors are perfectly flat on the backside - this doesn't adhere properly at the edges because the phone's screen curves away.
The threads in the accessories section have covered this in quite some detail. Some manufacturers are busy trying to design a glass protector that both adheres properly and is easy to apply.
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You are right, I actually misread that as 2.5D for screen protector. I am aware of the screen curvature starting within the viewing screen.
Thank you though.
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iloome is currently the only company who is making a Note 4 tempered glass screen protector that is designed to fit OVER the 2.5D curved edges,
All other pieces will either stop short of the curve or will have issues adhering.

Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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"Pretty scratch resistant" isn't "completely immune to scratches". The point being that if you cover your phone with a protector no matter what happens (short of a drop/stanley knife) you're quite literally covered. Having a decent screen protector, glass or not, along with a case means you can throw your phone into a pocket with a bunch of keys with little regard to how your phone will fare.
I'd much rather have to replace a £5-15 protector than realise at some point that there's a scratch on the actual glass on my screen. You can't go back from that - you can replace protectors easily. People have different usage profiles, just because your 3 phones are scratch free, doesn't mean that others won't want to protect theirs.

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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I always thought the same, but afraid to try it.... anybody else not use any protection and not get scratches?

Your right I have friends that are tradesmen, and I wouldn't go without a screen protector if I was them. I wouldn't go with a high even phone either.
But in my case my G3 / Note 4 is in my pocket and just my phone alone. Maybe that's why. I don't put my phone inside with coins or keys. That's asking for trouble

Hendrickson said:
Why bother, it's gorilla glass 3 right? Pretty scratch resistant as it is. I never used anything on my LG G3 and its scratch free. Or my G Pro 2. Never had an issue. The GG3 glass is good enough I think to use without anything and it looks so much better as a result.
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One of the reviewers Note 4s screen got scratched during use after a few days(can't remember which site it way). I also remember seeing a video where Gorilla Glass gets microscopic scratches without a protector and these scratches make the whole structure weaker and more prone to shatter when dropped.

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what the different with those screen protectors?

http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
I don't use them ...
farwish said:
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
nabbed said:
Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.
vioalas said:
Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.
Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.
okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.
Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!
vioalas said:
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
mrvirginia said:
thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16
s.m.knipe said:
No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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mrvirginia said:
ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.
I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?

Screen Protectors?

I wanted to gather some feedback after many of us have had the phone for several months.
In my second week of owning the phone, I put a simple screen protector on and have not taken it off. The bare screen was so smooth and so easy to clean, resisting fingerprints which the screen protector collects like there is glue on it.
Have any of you been running with the device sans a protector, and if so, how has your screen fared in terms of nicks and scratches? I would love to peel mine off if I can be reasonably confident it can live without it.
tebower said:
I wanted to gather some feedback after many of us have had the phone for several months.
In my second week of owning the phone, I put a simple screen protector on and have not taken it off. The bare screen was so smooth and so easy to clean, resisting fingerprints which the screen protector collects like there is glue on it.
Have any of you been running with the device sans a protector, and if so, how has your screen fared in terms of nicks and scratches? I would love to peel mine off if I can be reasonably confident it can live without it.
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I just ordered my Moto X but I can speak from experience with other Gorilla Glass 3 screens. If you are careful with them you will most likely not get any easily visible scratches, but odds are you will get minor scratches that are only visible under sunlight/directly under a lightbulb. If that would bother you, keep a screen protector on it. If not, take it off.
I just ordered my motox, I was wondering what screen protector or tempered glass you would recommend (I'm from the UK)
varignet said:
I just ordered my motox, I was wondering what screen protector or tempered glass you would recommend (I'm from the UK)
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Based on what I've read in the tempered glass screen protector thread, there don't seem to be any companies putting out a tempered glass screen protector that works perfectly with the Moto X 2. Because of the slightly curved screen, none of the glass screen protectors will stick properly around the edges.
I haven't used a screen protector in at least 3 years. I hate them, and think they are absolutely pointless. What's the point of protecting the glass if you are never going to actually USE the glass?
I'm using the matte screen protector from Moto's site. Actually really like it. It does degrade image quality when light colors are shown though. Regardless, the matte effect is pretty cool and just having a tiny bit of protection puts me at ease since we still don't have high quality tempered glass options.
You are using the glass, you're looking through it!!
I'm looking for a good screen protector for my Moto X.
I tried these, but they weren't good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NU8CBBU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Anybody tried a good one?
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I have not used screen protector in a few years myself. They won't help if you drop your phone. Also with Gorilla glad it is very hard to get scratches, however I have gotten some micro scratches that can be seen with the lighting just right.
With this phone I have had it for a month now and no scratches.
I really think the screen on this new Moto X is great and I would not recommend a screen protector.
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I've dropped mine two times, the second of which was from about 5 feet straight onto concrete. The phone bounced, landed on the screen and slid about a foot. There's not one scratch on it. No screen protector or case. Don't know if I'm extremely lucky or this thing is a tank.
I have dropped my Moto G (1st gen) 57 times. Yes, I keep count
The screen still looked perfect before I gave it to my dad when I got the Moto X. There was one small scratch on the plastic on the back, but it was pretty minuscule in size.
I love the feel of the glass too.
I really don't think screen protectors are necessary even if you are as clumsy as me. I could just be lucky too...
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I've dropped my Moto X 2nd Gen 3 times now and all 3 times the screen got a new crack. I'm getting it replaced since I got MotoCare. The curved glass adds some weakness and since these curved edges extend out past the frame that is the first thing that hits on front face falls. I'm looking for a screen protector, if one exist, that will be able to wrap around the edges.
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I have dropped my Moto G (1st gen) 57 times. Yes, I keep count
The screen still looked perfect before I gave it to my dad when I got the Moto X. There was one small scratch on the plastic on the back, but it was pretty minuscule in size.
I love the feel of the glass too.
I really don't think screen protectors are necessary even if you are as clumsy as me. I could just be lucky too...
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Here's the thing about screen protectors. The cheap (and not so cheap) plastic ones are mostly unnecessary. They won't protect against drops very much (maybe some of the wet apply ones) and give off a way worse feel to the finger than the pure glass. They do protect against scratches, but IMO it's not worth the effort nor the cost.
However, the new(ish) tempered glass screen protectors change a lot of that. Sure, they're kind of expensive, but they actually protect against drops, feel like the glass that's on the phone, and protect against scratches as well. However, it's incredibly apparent that due to the design of the Moto X, few companies are bothering to make this type of screen protector for the phone, and the few that are have made products that don't fit very well to the phone. So there's really no good option here in terms of screen protectors.
From what I've read, there isn't really a good tempered glass screen protector for this device yet. It seems like all of the decent ones still have issues with the sides lifting up due to the curved edges. Has anyone found that covers the entire screen and doesn't have this issue?

[Q] Screen Protector - Yay or Nay

Will you be using any screen protectors? I got 2 for free so will try it, will be tricky with air bubbles and dust.
ermacwins said:
Will you be using any screen protectors? I got 2 for free so will try it, will be tricky with air bubbles and dust.
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The Mi4C uses Concore glass which is a product of Gorilla Glass but has the LCD and Digitizer fused together. That means if the glass even slightly cracks you'll have to replace the entire LCD/Digitizer assembly. Even though the Mi4C has a good repairability score, it might be difficult or expensive to get parts as this a phone for the Chinese market only. Using some form of screen protection is essential.
PS: Just google a few guides on how to apply a screen protector properly, I've done so many times without any dust or bubbles creeping in.
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The Mi4C uses Concore glass which is a product of Gorilla Glass but has the LCD and Digitizer fused together. That means if the glass even slightly cracks you'll have to replace the entire LCD/Digitizer assembly. Even though the Mi4C has a good repairability score, it might be difficult or expensive to get parts as this a phone for the Chinese market only. Using some form of screen protection is essential.
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Thanks, I'll definitely use one
Make sure to get the tempered glass variety, as the plastic-based ones are often grippy (making swipes more difficult as your finger kind of sticks to the screen) and more reflective (more difficult to see in the sun), as well as less transparent (screen seems dimmer, and sometimes has artifacts). Tempered glass screen protectors are more expensive than the plastic-based ones and sell for about $5. That said, I've seen suppliers offering the display now, they sell for about $60.
http://www.vopmart.com/pa1013245.html
Ye I have a tempered glass one, always used a plastic on my old phones, which is much slimmer but as you say, you can feel the difference :good:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
I applied the standard screen protector that came for free and have one bubble but its on the bezel so I can live with that. Only problem is it attracts a lot of fingerprints
jauling said:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
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Yep, I confirm. No or poor oleophobic coating, it is a real fingerprint magnet
I don't use a screen protector, not even the free platic one that came with the phone... just don't like them.
jauling said:
I hear the standard mi4c screen doesnt have such a great olephobic coating, so its a fingerprint magnet. can anyone confirm or deny this statement? sounds like the best screen protector is a tempered glass with good olephobic coating. can anyone recommend a good one?
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Nillkin have a tempered glass screen protector for the Mi4i/4c, called NILLKIN Amazing H. I've heard they're one of the better ones, since Nillkin is also a big brand when it comes to cases and screen protectors.
You can find it on AliExpress for 7-10 dollar. It's probably available at other places as well.
I see nillkin also has an Amazing H+ version.. www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=5584&page=1
jauling said:
I see nillkin also has an Amazing H+ version.. www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=&id=5584&page=1
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Hm, yea. You know the difference between H and H+?
Flaxe said:
Hm, yea. You know the difference between H and H+?
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Just comparing the product pages, The H is 0.33m and H+ is 0.3mm. H+ looks to have 2.5D edging craft, whatever that is.
I only use nillkin for all my phones. They fit great and applying them is very easy, because they pack a lot of extras in the box (like wet and dry wipes to clean your screen, tape to remove dust particles, microfibre cloth...). I always need just about 2 minutes to apply them without any bubbles or dust. If there is a dust particle left after applying, just lift the screen protector carefully and use the tape to remove the dust
i found that Edge Control goes crazy when the phone is connected to the PSU and charging. After some minutes of using the Edge controls suddenly do the "back" function all over again. This happens when i just hold the phone in the left hand (not tapping with the fingers - just holding it on both sides in one hand). Can you confirm this? I am using latest sMIUI 5.11.5 (clean installed). If i unplug the typ c connector - all goes back to normal within one minute.

Does anyone not use a screen protector?

Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.
Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.
Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.
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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.
I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
I don't. Each to their own I guess.
Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.
Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass
My protection
In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.
i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.
I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough
I never use screen protector.
chiruscan said:
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.

I finally did it, removed the screen protector...what a difference.

Just a comment on feel and use of the phone without the screen protector.
I couldn't stand the feel of my finger catching on the sharp edge of the supplied/installed screen protector but I love this phone so much I didn't want to risk scratching the screen.
Finally I couldn't stand it any longer and had to remove the protector....what a difference. The phone feels way more premium and the finger print coating seems very good. It does seem to be a bit sharper and bright as the protector is a film and not tempered glass. I have to admit that the Mate 20 X has one of the better supplied protectors but wow, what a difference without it.
So glad I removed it and to everyone else out there, who has removed the film and are still using the Mate 20 X without a protector?
imapfsr said:
Just a comment on feel and use of the phone without the screen protector.
I couldn't stand the feel of my finger catching on the sharp edge of the supplied/installed screen protector but I love this phone so much I didn't want to risk scratching the screen.
Finally I couldn't stand it any longer and had to remove the protector....what a difference. The phone feels way more premium and the finger print coating seems very good. It does seem to be a bit sharper and bright as the protector is a film and not tempered glass. I have to admit that the Mate 20 X has one of the better supplied protectors but wow, what a difference without it.
So glad I removed it and to everyone else out there, who has removed the film and are still using the Mate 20 X without a protector?
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I removed the protector when I bought my previous phone, a OnePlus 6, and the next day had scratches on the screen. After that I'll never go naked on the screen again. Am I the only one who hates tempered glass screen protectors?
I was nice for 10 minutes only. While putting on my tempered glass. I just can't go without, have to have a case too.
First thing i always do is to remove the screenprotoctor if applied. I don`t like the feel and never had a scratch on any phone so far.
I removed the screen protector from my P20 Pro and kept using it for months without any scratches. But on the Mate 20 X I removed the protector last week and now I have two big scratches. Maybe because the phone is larger so it is more prone for scratches.
I just gotten a mate 20 x, still with factory film, would like to ask, how does it actually affect the screen quality with and without it? Reason being I feel like there is visible "pixels" or fonts looking a bit jaggedly as compared on my other devices, I'm not sure if its due to the lower PPI (FHD on a 7.2 screen) or because of the factory film..
I compared it with a similar PPI device (8.4 inch 2k OLED display, 358ppi vs mate 20x 7.2 inch FHD 346ppi AMOLED) and the 8.4 inch device seems to look better and "higher quality" when looking at the fonts
First thing i always do when i have a new phone with screen protoctor is removing it and then install a good piece of Nilkin glass protection.
I never had a phone without this and without a flip cover to... And i never will.
SmartPhonesFan said:
Why u askin I explained it clearly gosh.. or why u just don't try yourself .. lift the protector from one corner and see the difference
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Ok just removed my plastic protector, took a look at the screen without anything on then pasted on a nillkin glass.. it does look a tad clearer, but pixels are still somewhat visible, i guess its not the plastic or glass issue, it simply is due to the low PPI count, probably just not used it to (coming from the 6.6 inch honor note 8 with 443 ppi amoled), but overall its still a really good screen
But at least now it is protected by another physical piece of glass and is much smoother, can definitely say that nillkin glass and coating is good, fits and blends in well with the provided TPU case
I didn't dare to remove the stock protector yet.
But: did anybody have a chance to compare using the M-Pen on phone WITH and WITHOUT the original screen protector?
And how the M-PEN works if 3rd party tempered glass is used?
JirkaToksa said:
I didn't dare to remove the stock protector yet.
But: did anybody have a chance to compare using the M-Pen on phone WITH and WITHOUT the original screen protector?
And how the M-PEN works if 3rd party tempered glass is used?
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I tried it with all the 3 options and honestly, i dont feel any difference at all.
Now i use it with a cheap an effective panzer glass from Aliexpress... And its just working goooddd [emoji1305]
I haven't remove screen protector yet, but i find one very bad thing. My m-pen can sometimes made micro scratches on screen protector(only visible at some angle of light).
i ordered some tempered glass and new screen protectors from aliexpress.
preinstalled screen protector is really bad.
BigDisplay said:
I tried it with all the 3 options and honestly, i dont feel any difference at all.
Now i use it with a cheap an effective panzer glass from Aliexpress... And its just working goooddd [emoji1305]
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You mean even the M-Pen works fine with the PanzerGlass?
Is it able to detect all the 4096 levels of pressure? You don't have to press harder if you want to draw a thick line?
And one more question: I'm considering removal of the stock screen protector and leaving the display without any protection (because the phone is permanently in flip case). And the question is: wouldn't the usage of M-Pen lead to scratches eventually?
I recently removed the stock screen protector and wow what a difference the screen is silky smooth and feels much better.
I did try to apply a glass protector but both times came out wrong with bubbles in the center so I have decided to go naked with the original kickstand case
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You mean even the M-Pen works fine with the PanzerGlass?
Is it able to detect all the 4096 levels of pressure? You don't have to press harder if you want to draw a thick line?
And one more question: I'm considering removal of the stock screen protector and leaving the display without any protection (because the phone is permanently in flip case). And the question is: wouldn't the usage of M-Pen lead to scratches eventually?
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Yes it works perfect with the panzerglass as i have right now.
And it works fine to draw a thick line to yes... All is fine.
"And the question is: wouldn't the usage of M-Pen lead to scratches eventually" this i dont have any experience with. But saw in here some days ago a guy telling about this and when he hold the phone in a special angle he could see some small scratches on the display.
The pen is more hard in the end vs the Sammy pen what i remember.
ajsmsg78 said:
I removed the protector when I bought my previous phone, a OnePlus 6, and the next day had scratches on the screen. After that I'll never go naked on the screen again. Am I the only one who hates tempered glass screen protectors?
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Nope. I hate them too. Crappier glass on top of better glass. Lol
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I personally use Clearcoat from Mobile Outfitters, front and back No Case. They have all kinds of film and skins for every phone.
imapfsr said:
Just a comment on feel and use of the phone without the screen protector.
I couldn't stand the feel of my finger catching on the sharp edge of the supplied/installed screen protector but I love this phone so much I didn't want to risk scratching the screen.
Finally I couldn't stand it any longer and had to remove the protector....what a difference. The phone feels way more premium and the finger print coating seems very good. It does seem to be a bit sharper and bright as the protector is a film and not tempered glass. I have to admit that the Mate 20 X has one of the better supplied protectors but wow, what a difference without it.
So glad I removed it and to everyone else out there, who has removed the film and are still using the Mate 20 X without a protector?
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I agree. What a difference.
I used to remove the pre-installed screen protectors on my previous phones, but I too, was a bit scared of ruining this massive 7.2" screen when I first got it.
This is bigger than the previous phones, and this was certainly more expensive than the previous phones.
If you are careful with your phones, I would say you should be fine from all these unwanted scratches.
Some people are so careless, they even put their keys in the same pocket as their phones, and they complain about their phones getting damaged.
For the person saying the M-pen is scratch your screen protector, please remember that this pre-installed screen protector is still only plastic. the tip of the M-Pen is plastic. it IS going to scratch.
Lastly, the number one thing ANY of these screen protectors CANNOT beat, whether it be a film, or tempered glass screen protector, is the oleophobic coating these phones now come with. It was great a few years back, it is even better today.
Minimal fingerprints, and the fingertip gliding feel is unmatched.
I think people should keep some sort of screen protector - either the pre-installed film which IMHO is very good, or a 3rd party film or a tempered glass. Most tempered glass products nowadays are very good and protect the actual screen from scratches. And feels premium too. My AmazingThing tempered glass - so called Supreme Glass, feels nice finger glides smoothly and feel cool to touch too.
I'm sure many boast that they never had scratches after long time of use, but I am sure the scratch marks WILL be there when looked carefully.
Protecting an expensive device is a logical decision.
But sure, to each their own.
Had my factory protector on for the first 4 months or so, then removed it, and it has been 2 months without any screen protector.
The screen feels and looks better.
On hindsight I might have removed it on day 1.
The problem remains that the touch sensing is just laggy, jerky, and glitchy. No difference with or without protector.
Do scrolling tests beside an iPhone to see the difference.

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