So no one is talking about the missing band 20 on this phone? It is very crucial especially in Europe if you drive by car out of the city. I decided not to buy the phone and maybe wait for a global version or newer version with band 20 support. You can also check cellmapper(.)net for the band coverage.
I have been talking about it... as I said to another UK poster, when it comes to 4g you have to do the homework
Mi 10 Ultra supported bands:
4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41
5G bands 1, 3, 41, 78, 79 SA/NSA
Here in the UK, band 20 is the rural, lower frequency band with the most coverage. So as you say, country trips might be difficult.
But it depends on your network also.
https://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/
EE have repurposed some old 3G frequencies for 4G. I'll let you know how that pans out
But yes, this is something everyone who imports phones should think about!
Since there's no band 20 (4g) in xiaomi mi 10 ultra also no band 42 (5g), in my understanding, in the UK, 4g and 5g both won't work at all on this phone? cheers
vtec303 said:
Since there's no band 20 (4g) in xiaomi mi 10 ultra also no band 42 (5g), in my understanding, in the UK, 4g and 5g both won't work at all on this phone? cheers
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"At all"? That's too extreme a conclusion.
With 4g there are different bands in operation and yes band 20 is the default, largest-range band and the only one you'll get outside of towns and cities. This also highly depends on your network offering the bands the phone supports in the first place; if you're with Giffgaff you're screwed
As for 5g, I checked o2 and EE and they're offering 5g on band n78, which is supported on the Mi 10 Ultra. There's also auctions for further 5G bands next year. It's too early in 5g's rollout to be definitive but the early signs look promising
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"At all"? That's too extreme a conclusion.
With 4g there are different bands in operation and yes band 20 is the default, largest-range band and the only one you'll get outside of towns and cities. This also highly depends on your network offering the bands the phone supports in the first place; if you're with Giffgaff you're screwed
As for 5g, I checked o2 and EE and they're offering 5g on band n78, which is supported on the Mi 10 Ultra. There's also auctions for further 5G bands next year. It's too early in 5g's rollout to be definitive but the early signs look promising
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I did say as far as I understand which also means I could be wrong so no conclusions as of yet, but many thanks for the clarification. Back in the days I was very close to buying a Mi 9 Chinese version with 8gb ram in comparison with the global version which only had 6, but found out it doesn't support band 20 and back than I was with O2 which had the band 20 for 4g. But now I'm with Vodafone and expect at least 4g to be working, cheers.
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I did say as far as I understand which also means I could be wrong so no conclusions as of yet, but many thanks for the clarification. Back in the days I was very close to buying a Mi 9 Chinese version with 8gb ram in comparison with the global version which only had 6, but found out it doesn't support band 20 and back than I was with O2 which had the band 20 for 4g. But now I'm with Vodafone and expect at least 4g to be working, cheers.
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No problem man. I did look into this at length worrying myself so apologies if I sounded short when someone comes in with "I heard it won't work at all!"
I have done my homework. A few people are getting their phones now (a guy in the US has just updated to "Planning to Buy?" thread confirming 4g and 5g work for him) so won't be too long to see for sure..
In terms of offering the most 4g bands that are supported on the phone, EE are best as they repurposed a lot of 3g bands that are supported and coverage checkers verify this, but Vodafone had the second most. I really think apart from rural areas it will be fine on those networks.
I promise when I get the phone I will test it (I am about a mile away from countryside) and report back. It's a bit scary spending almost £1000 on a phone that's not even got the biggest 4g band on it. I'd also like any UK users who get it to do the same.
o2 still offer pretty poor 4g support. I am with Giffgaff who haven't even confirmed 5g yet (technically worse than o2 themselves) so it's off to EE I go! Vodafone seem a safe bet. Here's hoping
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No problem man. I did look into this at length worrying myself so apologies if I sounded short when someone comes in with "I heard it won't work at all!"
I have done my homework. A few people are getting their phones now (a guy in the US has just updated to "Planning to Buy?" thread confirming 4g and 5g work for him) so won't be too long to see for sure..
In terms of offering the most 4g bands that are supported on the phone, EE are best as they repurposed a lot of 3g bands that are supported and coverage checkers verify this, but Vodafone had the second most. I really think apart from rural areas it will be fine on those networks.
I promise when I get the phone I will test it (I am about a mile away from countryside) and report back. It's a bit scary spending almost £1000 on a phone that's not even got the biggest 4g band on it. I'd also like any UK users who get it to do the same.
o2 still offer pretty poor 4g support. I am with Giffgaff who haven't even confirmed 5g yet (technically worse than o2 themselves) so it's off to EE I go! Vodafone seem a safe bet. Here's hoping
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No need to apologise my friend and yes would be great if you update the 4/5 g stats once you get the phone. My primary sim is Vodafone and than I have a Lebara just for the sake of it... lol don't use it a lot they don't offer no 5g atm, hope you like the device, looks amazing in every way apart from the fact display not QHD. Which one did you order the 16/512 or 8/256? I checked out the recommended websites none have the transparent one, atm using a oneplus 8 Pro 12/256 but thinking of getting this xiaomi, cheers.
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No need to apologise my friend and yes would be great if you update the 4/5 g stats once you get the phone. My primary sim is Vodafone and than I have a Lebara just for the sake of it... lol don't use it a lot they don't offer no 5g atm, hope you like the device, looks amazing in every way apart from the fact display not QHD. Which one did you order the 16/512 or 8/256? I checked out the recommended websites none have the transparent one, atm using a oneplus 8 Pro 12/256 but thinking of getting this xiaomi, cheers.
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Where I ordered it seems to have transparent (I am getting the transparent one with 12gb/256!
https://liaow.com/xiaomi-10-extreme-commemorative-edition-128gb-8gb-transparent.html
I like Xiaomi because Oneplus aren't wireless charing (haven't seen the latest phones from them though), and this one has a graphene battery which may extend battery life.
Nobody offers 5G in the UK unless it's a seperate pack I Can see! even EE... it sucks, I'd have to pay more. Eh, I can wait
My EE SIM hasn't arrived yet. The phone has! So I put my giffgaff sim in
I am in Cheshire, about a mile from North Wales. working 4g! I can browse the internet juuuust fine.
Proof for you, taken from my Mi 9... poor thing, it will be missed, but wow!
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Also took a screenshot of the BBC World site on the Mi 10 Ultra itself to prove it's working!
I will report as I go along, but man, it feels good to be right I had to use 4G to download Swiftkey, haha, I couldn't even put my wifi password in because the Chinese keyboard was too difficult... but it's as good a test as any
And finally, took it off charge to go walk around the block (it charged nearly 20% in 5 minutes, haha)
Look familiar?
Congratulations! May I ask you what declared name and value was in your invoice when shipped with DHL?
ToneLa said:
My EE SIM hasn't arrived yet. The phone has! So I put my giffgaff sim in
I am in Cheshire, about a mile from North Wales. working 4g! I can browse the internet juuuust fine.
Proof for you, taken from my Mi 9... poor thing, it will be missed, but wow!
Also took a screenshot of the BBC World site on the Mi 10 Ultra itself to prove it's working!
I will report as I go along, but man, it feels good to be right I had to use 4G to download Swiftkey, haha, I couldn't even put my wifi password in because the Chinese keyboard was too difficult... but it's as good a test as any
And finally, took it off charge to go walk around the block (it charged nearly 20% in 5 minutes, haha)
Look familiar?
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Congratulations! May I ask you what declared name and value was in your invoice when shipped with DHL?
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Liaow wrote that it was the Mi 10 with the value at 179
I ended up paying tax but only 39
It didn't slow the delivery down. I got a call about the tax while the phone was out for delivery!
Once the phone left Hong Kong it was in the UK in one day. Could not be happier.
Anyway, if I get out this weekend I'll be sure to let you know of my 4g coverage.
ToneLa said:
I have been talking about it... as I said to another UK poster, when it comes to 4g you have to do the homework
Mi 10 Ultra supported bands:
4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41
5G bands 1, 3, 41, 78, 79 SA/NSA
Here in the UK, band 20 is the rural, lower frequency band with the most coverage. So as you say, country trips might be difficult.
But it depends on your network also.
https://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/
EE have repurposed some old 3G frequencies for 4G. I'll let you know how that pans out
But yes, this is something everyone who imports phones should think about!
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I use O2, see my post about data throuput for all the detail but with no band 20, my 3g (H+) I'm getting about 13gb, better than I get on my heavily congested small seaside village 4g mast In the summer. I'm not complaining.
Any updates on the 4g coverage outside the city? What have your experience on the network been so far? Does it also affect calls and call signals?
ToneLa said:
Liaow wrote that it was the Mi 10 with the value at 179
I ended up paying tax but only 39
It didn't slow the delivery down. I got a call about the tax while the phone was out for delivery!
Once the phone left Hong Kong it was in the UK in one day. Could not be happier.
Anyway, if I get out this weekend I'll be sure to let you know of my 4g coverage.
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Calls have been fine. I was out yesterday and the 4G icon was gone. It did switch to H+ in non-city places.
However a bit like Sathelp said, even that is fast. Honestly if I wasn't looking for an icon I'd have not even noticed
It kept the signal on the train there & back, and it lost it in a tunnel as is expected and regained it immediately. I am very happily surprised, this was my road test and it was always there & fast when I needed it, even between swapping from random bars' wifi connections. Very happy but I did no speed or transfer rate analysis. Just far from the nightmare I thought it might be with "no band 20"
Well then, so let's assume people from UK will have no problems. I've checked coverage map from carriers in UK and they will have at least 3G outside city and almost everywhere. In my country Czech is 3G coverage very bad. So for anyone deciding to buy mi 10 ultra, just check map coverage of your carrier. 3G is fast enough for traveling.
ToneLa said:
Calls have been fine. I was out yesterday and the 4G icon was gone. It did switch to H+ in non-city places.
However a bit like Sathelp said, even that is fast. Honestly if I wasn't looking for an icon I'd have not even noticed
It kept the signal on the train there & back, and it lost it in a tunnel as is expected and regained it immediately. I am very happily surprised, this was my road test and it was always there & fast when I needed it, even between swapping from random bars' wifi connections. Very happy but I did no speed or transfer rate analysis. Just far from the nightmare I thought it might be with "no band 20"
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@ToneLa mate, I'm so happy to have found a neighbor that is using the Ultra in UK!! I live in Cheshire too, and I was very concerned if the lack of band would affect much the experience here in UK, but now I'm much more confident. Would you mind to let me know how is being your experience with Google services? I use them a lot of course (Gmail, maps, Google pay, the basics like everyone) and I had a bad experience with the Redmi 8 that I bought for my wife, I needed to return the Chinese version because the google services didn't work well at all. I'm just freaking scary to spend all this money and it didn't work well. Thanks ''neighbour'' :good:
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@ToneLa mate, I'm so happy to have found a neighbor that is using the Ultra in UK!! I live in Cheshire too, and I was very concerned if the lack of band would affect much the experience here in UK, but now I'm much more confident. Would you mind to let me know how is being your experience with Google services? I use them a lot of course (Gmail, maps, Google pay, the basics like everyone) and I had a bad experience with the Redmi 8 that I bought for my wife, I needed to return the Chinese version because the google services didn't work well at all. I'm just freaking scary to spend all this money and it didn't work well. Thanks ''neighbour'' :good:
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Hello neighbour!
The Google services worked ok on stock. But some stuff is disabled like location history in maps, you can't see where you've been! Everything else seemed good, it's just MIUI is an opt in permissions setup. So if anything wasn't working I'd have to grant the app more permissions.
You REALLY need to get on the Xiaomi.eu rom, as this fixes anything else!
As for bands, I've got an EE SIM and a Giffgaff SIM in and it's night and day. I'm getting fast 4g with EE almost everywhere (had a little trouble driving through the countryside near Raby). Most places, the EE SIM had 4g... in Chester, in Thornton Hough, in Liverpool... Meanwhile, Giffgaff trundles along, it's acceptable but not 4g, often 3g, the speeds aren't too bad but there's more gaps in coverage.
EE coverage by us is great. But as I've said a few times they use the old 3g bands for 4g signals now. It really makes a difference!
You're on XDA so you should be able to make this phone everything you want. It's a bit awkward at first.. but it's already the best phone I've ever owned.
Good to have a neighbour here
Thanks @ToneLa, I'll follow yiur advice and use the rom you mentioned. Great to know it's working well, I'm very keen to get one and now with your opinions I'll do that. Enjoy your new toy, I'll do the same soon!! Cheers!!!
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Thanks @ToneLa, I'll follow yiur advice and use the rom you mentioned. Great to know it's working well, I'm very keen to get one and now with your opinions I'll do that. Enjoy your new toy, I'll do the same soon!! Cheers!!!
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If you haven't ordered yet use liaow.com because the guy there Mike is amazing and he declared the cost as less than 200... So when DHL got stung for customs it wasn't 20% of the real cost. It was a measly 40 quid!
Thanks mate, trust me, you will love the phone. Start the Xiaomi unlock process the day you get it though..
Will do, good to know you had a good experience with them, I was between them, Wonda mobile and TradingShenzhen, but I believe I'll follow your advice. I sent you a PM if you don't mind, and thanks for your feedback, it's reassuring to know the phone is working well with you!! Cheers!!
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Hi,
I am considering buying a NEXUS 5 US version. If I understand correctly it will be compatible with all speeds on US T mobile frequencies, but cannot tell if it will only give me gprs and edge in the EU, or if 3G as well. EU LTE seems like a no to me in this unit, but I can live without it.
I would also consider an HTC ONE as well, but the description there is even more contradicting, depending where I look at it.
Can anyone please point me to a reliable guide of US and EU cell provider and device frequencies? I would love to know what frequencies to look for.
I spent a few months early this year in EU, had a local HTC ONE X (no LTE) and was amazed by the speed and coverage I got; traveling in a car almost 2 hours a day, I could anywhere video skype home without interruption, or drop call, or quality issues. Would be great if I go back again, I didn't have to buy and sell a new phone again...
(With Sprint in LA, CA 4G, I cannot even make a phone call without it being dropped and skype calls not video are only a dream...)
Thank you very much for any help,
i_z said:
Hi,
I am considering buying a NEXUS 5 US version. If I understand correctly it will be compatible with all speeds on US T mobile frequencies, but cannot tell if it will only give me gprs and edge in the EU, or if 3G as well. EU LTE seems like a no to me in this unit, but I can live without it.
I would also consider an HTC ONE as well, but the description there is even more contradicting, depending where I look at it.
Can anyone please point me to a reliable guide of US and EU cell provider and device frequencies? I would love to know what frequencies to look for.
I spent a few months early this year in EU, had a local HTC ONE X (no LTE) and was amazed by the speed and coverage I got; traveling in a car almost 2 hours a day, I could anywhere video skype home without interruption, or drop call, or quality issues. Would be great if I go back again, I didn't have to buy and sell a new phone again...
(With Sprint in LA, CA 4G, I cannot even make a phone call without it being dropped and skype calls not video are only a dream...)
Thank you very much for any help,
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I bought the D820, the US version and here in Norway the LTE-bands are 3 & 7 wich is not supported on the US version.
If you buy the US version you only will get the HSDPA/3G in europe. The speed is really ok here in Norway.
Wikipedia can help you look for the different LTE(4G) bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
i_z said:
Hi,
I am considering buying a NEXUS 5 US version. If I understand correctly it will be compatible with all speeds on US T mobile frequencies, but cannot tell if it will only give me gprs and edge in the EU, or if 3G as well. EU LTE seems like a no to me in this unit, but I can live without it.
I would also consider an HTC ONE as well, but the description there is even more contradicting, depending where I look at it.
Can anyone please point me to a reliable guide of US and EU cell provider and device frequencies? I would love to know what frequencies to look for.
I spent a few months early this year in EU, had a local HTC ONE X (no LTE) and was amazed by the speed and coverage I got; traveling in a car almost 2 hours a day, I could anywhere video skype home without interruption, or drop call, or quality issues. Would be great if I go back again, I didn't have to buy and sell a new phone again...
(With Sprint in LA, CA 4G, I cannot even make a phone call without it being dropped and skype calls not video are only a dream...)
Thank you very much for any help,
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The U.S version will work fine in Europe (or the rest of the world) sans LTE. That's it. EDGE/WCDMA/UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA(+) will work fine, just no LTE.
Thank You very much for the info!
I purchased the Pixel from the Google store, and I'm pretty sure it will work on MetroPCS, I'm just hoping someone who knows a little more about how that aspect of the network works can give me a little more insight.
I'm getting a little sick of paying $130 a month for 1 phone with 16 GB of data, and that is after a 22% discount through work...
twiztidmn said:
I purchased the Pixel from the Google store, and I'm pretty sure it will work on MetroPCS, I'm just hoping someone who knows a little more about how that aspect of the network works can give me a little more insight.
I'm getting a little sick of paying $130 a month for 1 phone with 16 GB of data, and that is after a 22% discount through work...
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I'm confused if you're paying that much why don't you just switch to their parent network(T-Mobile). You'll get much more incentives on a better network for a lower price.
buzzy3970 said:
I'm confused if you're paying that much why don't you just switch to their parent network(T-Mobile). You'll get much more incentives on a better network for a lower price.
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the $130 is my price on Verizon. MetroPCS is $60 a month flat for unlimited data, and it doesn't throttle you down after a certain amount used. My biggest concern was T-Mobile customers having priority on the towers over MetroPCS customers during high congestion. but my friend who has MetroPCS used his all day at the Minnesota State Fair, data, calls, whatever, and never had an issue. That's 200,000+ people in a little over a square mile area, if he wasnt having priority issues then, I doubt I ever will.
It's mostly a question of since I bought the Google version of the Pixel instead of the Verizon version, will I be able to just stick a MetroPCS simcard in it and and have it work.
Oh I see. Was very lost with pricing lol, but yes seeing that metro pcs is a true gsm carrier all the bands for their network should be on the pixel...
It should work just fine. My experience with metro in one of the largest cities in the country (Houston, TX) has been great. I haven't noticed any slower data performance or call drops than when I had TMo proper, and you still get all the TMo perks, like not charging for data for popular apps like Youtube and Spotify (I don't pay for unlimited).
rocketpanda40 said:
It should work just fine. My experience with metro in one of the largest cities in the country (Houston, TX) has been great. I haven't noticed any slower data performance or call drops than when I had TMo proper, and you still get all the TMo perks, like not charging for data for popular apps like Youtube and Spotify (I don't pay for unlimited).
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I'll be doing unlimited so that I can use Playstation Vue mobile without issues, and to watch Red Zone once I find another cheap alternative (Going to hate giving up my $1.99 a month access to it through Verizon. Vue charges $39.99 for 6 months). I watched an hour of the Olympics while mobile once and used about 4 GB of data...
I am thinking about going this route... but want to be sure that the Pixel will work with all of the TMobile bands so i'll have good service as well as the Wifi Calling work. Anyone with MetroPCS and a Pixel able to confirm?
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anyone know for sure ? Wifi calling?
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anyone know for sure ? Wifi calling?
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Should work just fine on both WiFi calling and even voice over LTE. The only band the pixel doesn't have is Band 71.
dia_naji said:
Should work just fine on both WiFi calling and even voice over LTE. The only band the pixel doesn't have is Band 71.
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Do you know how important Band 71 is?
I ask because I first had a Verizon Branded V20 and brought it to T-Mobile.. The reception was fairly poor around my house.. would barely get 4g .. and seemed to be bouncing towers... but when I sold it and got a T-Mobile Branded V20.. the reception is tons better.. works great. So i just want to make sure Band 71 isn't a primary one and i'll go back to having bad service with a Verizon / Unlocked Pixel version.
Thanks!
Jaws4God said:
Do you know how important Band 71 is?
I ask because I first had a Verizon Branded V20 and brought it to T-Mobile.. The reception was fairly poor around my house.. would barely get 4g .. and seemed to be bouncing towers... but when I sold it and got a T-Mobile Branded V20.. the reception is tons better.. works great. So i just want to make sure Band 71 isn't a primary one and i'll go back to having bad service with a Verizon / Unlocked Pixel version.
Thanks!
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Band 71 is only for extended LTE. Really isn't that big of a deal. Verizon branded phones are different they have bands that are sometimes locked for Verizon. The only real difference between the Verizon pixel and the pixel from google was the unlock able boot-loader. As for band 71 it's not deployed in some cities and depends on where you live. Th most important band is band 12 which the google pixel has. I've had the pixel for Verizon and never had any problems with service or even download speeds. As for band 71 not even the pixel 2 or the iPhone x have it so you really don't need to worry about it. It should work on Metro pcs, but i believe you need update your imei through the Metro pcs website.
I just picked up a pixel 1 in great condition yesterday and did carrier swap this morning by phone and it works very well. Go for it
Yep! The wife bought me one! So I was able to get it up and running on Friday... been using it all weekend! So far it seems to be working wonderful!
So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.
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So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.
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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!
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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!
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Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.
cameljockey1 said:
Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.
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Well, crap. Thank you for conducting the experiment. Yeah, it's the Pixel 2XL WITH an sd card slot, which is what I want, except apparently without Band 2, the thing's hobbled. I was gonna install the Google HDR+ camera app and have it all! Damn.
I got my hopes up because I saw reports of people bringing the Exynos Note 8 over here and getting it to work, but IT has Band 2! Seriously, how tough is it to add these bands! Do people want to sell phones or not?!!
Anyway, thanks again. An answer is an answer, even if it's not the one I was hoping for.
And yeah, if you're reclaiming that term, I completely respect that, but I still gotta go with CJ.
Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.
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Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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JrWriter87 said:
If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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Sorry for the delayed response, but I got it from Amazon. Took about 4-5 days to receive it even though Amazons system said 2 weeks. I also just noticed that it's a decent amount cheaper now as well compared to when I bought it in December by over $100.
HTC U11 Plus (2Q4D100) 6GB / 128GB 6.0-inches LTE Dual SIM Factory Unlocked - International Stock No Warranty (Ceramic Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07849L28F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TMqHAbDAA316F
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I agree with this I've had zero issues so far since getting this phone. Only had it for a day now but prior to I ran LTE Discover on my HTC U11 and saw I very rarely used Band 2 (San Diego). After some digging I saw how Band 2 works on T-Mobile and I'm OK without it. I'll be in Vegas in a week so I'll be curious how it holds up there, though I don't really expect hiccups. The one thing I do want to get back is VOLTE/VOWIFI.
Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.
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I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.
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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.
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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.
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Thank you. I did install LTE Discovery and was able to get information on what band I am on and more. It keeps flipping back to 'H' loads which is made me wondering what I might be doing wrong if it is not in the phone itself. I am in a strong 4G LTE area for work (base) and home. My Nexus 6 and my Note 5 always read 4G LTE in an area as such. I still love this phone even though it's not 2 weeks old yet.
I'm tempted to get this for an upgrade from my HTC 10. I don't care too much about the dual camera for the HTC 12+, plus I want it in Red which might not even come out in the US. So with the bigger battery 3,900 mah, about $200 less and the red color now. Would this be a good buy if I typically travel around the east coast?
I have one I purchased on a recent trip overseas to Taiwan. My carrier here in the US is Tmobile and I only have connectivity issues in rural areas. Can someone point me to a stock ROM from Tmobile that would be compatible with this phone?
Thanks.
Will there be a OnePlus with full Verizon US LTE support? If anyone finds any news on which bands will be supported it will be great if you can past them here. Thanks!!
pretty sure its this one isn't it? the 845 modem supports more than before.
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Will there be a OnePlus with full Verizon US LTE support? If anyone finds any news on which bands will be supported it will be great if you can past them here. Thanks!!
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it shut have global support
OcazPrime said:
pretty sure its this one isn't it? the 845 modem supports more than before.
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Yeah but if it does not have band 13 ( I believe that is Verizons main LTE band) then it OP 6 won't support LTE. I have read older OP will receive service but only up to 3G.
Yes, would love it to support VZW...will gladly sell my Pixel 2 XL to move back to OnePlus. But have no choice. Sucks that the best network in the US is limited for phones with support...damn Verizon...
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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Sent a tweet to the co-founder the other day asking about that...of course support jumps in with their standard "We have no information on this issue at this time. Please stay tuned for more information on our official launch of May 15th."
I know/heard they are looking to find a US partner, since VZW has the largest/best network pretty much in the US, supporting that network gives them a huge opportunity for a flagship phone, I know they need to compete with Google/Samsung in the store, but another alternative for people is always good. As I said, I was forced on to a Pixel 2 XL because it is the only real good phone that works on Verizon, plus you can bootloader unlock and has some Dev support on XDA...with Treble. Otherwise, HTC is another alternative, they have some of the best Dev support on XDA and can bootloader unlock, works on all networks. OnePlus should follow that lead, but build a better phone.
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Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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Voice goes over Verizon's LTE as well. They will be shutting does CDMA in a few years
I sure hope so. My area is predominantly Verizon. The three main reasons I bought 1+, is bootloader unlock friendly, headphone jack, and dual SIM. My personal is ATT and my work is Verizon. I hate carrying two phones. I use my personal for data, and the work for just calls and texts. Works out ok, but group messages on Verizon get funky sometime but it's worth it. Plus I wish I could use my company's data instead of personal. The sacrifices to only carrying one phone.....here's to hoping 1+ finally includes all of Verizon's bands! And yes, soon everything will be over LTE, CDMA is going away.
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Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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That's actually incorrect. OnePlus has supported CDMA (Band 0) since the OnePlus 3. Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10. Verizon uses Band 0 in almost all markets but there are quite a few major cities where they instead use Band 1 which OnePlus is still missing.
Service on Verizon is tied to the SIM and not the device. That's why users have used OnePlus 3/5 devices on Verizon successfully with service over Band 0 CDMA and Band 2/4 LTE. I do recall some indicating that there issues when switching between CDMA/LTE, but this may have since been resolved.
However, obviously the band support is far from optimal. If the 6 just adds B13 LTE then the OP6 would be viable for Verizon-use. I don't expect it will happen, but I believe it was brought to Carl Pei's attention at some point. It's not very difficult to add B13 LTE, so it's possible but not expected that they'd add support. Let's see what happens.
Also, using Dual SIM is an option lest you forget.
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That's actually incorrect. OnePlus has supported CDMA (Band 0) since the OnePlus 3. Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10. Verizon uses Band 0 in almost all markets but there are quite a few major cities where they instead use Band 1 which OnePlus is still missing.
Service on Verizon is tied to the SIM and not the device. That's why users have used OnePlus 3/5 devices on Verizon successfully with service over Band 0 CDMA and Band 2/4 LTE. I do recall some indicating that there issues when switching between CDMA/LTE, but this may have since been resolved.
However, obviously the band support is far from optimal. If the 6 just adds B13 LTE then the OP6 would be viable for Verizon-use. I don't expect it will happen, but I believe it was brought to Carl Pei's attention at some point. It's not very difficult to add B13 LTE, so it's possible but not expected that they'd add support. Let's see what happens.
Also, using Dual SIM is an option lest you forget.
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I stand corrected
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Based on this pic I got from the not quite fully working spec page, OnePlus 6 doesn't support the main verizon band of 13.
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Just read XDA's page on the specs:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-specifications-pricing-availability/
Band 0 for CDMA is there, no Band 13 :crying:
Fear_The_Fluff said:
Just read XDA's page on the specs:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-specifications-pricing-availability/
Band 0 for CDMA is there, no Band 13 :crying:
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Is band 2 and 4 not good enough?? Just curious.
suzook said:
Is band 2 and 4 not good enough?? Just curious.
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Its never good enough lol
I use a 2nd phone for hotspot only, I would like to be able to use the primary bands for that phone. Now with 5G rolling out I wonder if maybe oneplus will add the bands for verizon's 5G when they implement it? Wishful thinking tho.
Boo....VZW and OnePLus...between the two of them...what a mess for customers. Love to get rid of my Pixel 2xl. Thing is so bulky/huge. There is really no other phone on VZW you can bootloader unlock/root with great specs and performance.
Hoping OnePlus 6 would come through...guess not. Stuck with Pixel 2 for now.
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Boo....VZW and OnePLus...between the two of them...what a mess for customers. Love to get rid of my Pixel 2xl. Thing is so bulky/huge. There is really no other phone on VZW you can bootloader unlock/root with great specs and performance.
Hoping OnePlus 6 would come through...guess not. Stuck with Pixel 2 for now.
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If I don't unlock/root are there any good spec phones at good price? I'm on a ZTE axon 7 with VZW but I can't use data when on a call and it's always losing the APN it's set to. I was really hoping the OnePlus would be my answer. I really need a stable phone.
I will report what i get on mine before i probably return it. No Verizon support? Seriously? They deserve this return, i literally assumed they had that implemented by now. LoL
I'm about to unbox & try it now, how disappointing....
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I will report what i get on mine before i probably return it. No Verizon support? Seriously? They deserve this return, i literally assumed they had that implemented by now. LoL
I'm about to unbox & try it now, how disappointing....
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Lte only, no phone calls.
So let me get this right, the voice calling is what's missing on Verizon? What if i primarily use internet based calling via Google Hangouts (old Google voice number) for calling? I'm on an old limited minutes but unlimited data Verizon plan (old grandfathered in plans) so data is unrestricted but minutes aren't used much anyway. Normally i only use the regular line if service for LTE is just too poor for VOIP calls. It would be an inconvenience but maybe not a deal breaker.
I'd love to hear any thoughts before i decide to unbox it or just sell it. I have the 256gb model which is now sold out. Breaks my heart to not be able to use it on Verizon.
Only thing holding me back is LTE support in the United States.
I'll switch to any carrier
Better keep looking!
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Only thing holding me back is LTE support in the United States.
I'll switch to any carrier
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I'm afraid you'll get shoddy coverage -- LTE will work, but only on specific frequencies. AT&T and Sprint are your best bet, but 3G on Sprint won't work:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-huawei-honor-note-10 (Scroll down to Connectivity)
I'm getting this as a gaming tablet. Not as a primary phone. Hope that helps! :good:
-Elo
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I'm afraid you'll get shoddy coverage -- LTE will work, but only on specific frequencies. AT&T and Sprint are your best bet, but 3G on Sprint won't work:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-huawei-honor-note-10 (Scroll down to Connectivity)
I'm getting this as a gaming tablet. Not as a primary phone. Hope that helps! :good:
-Elo
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Hello, I know you only use the phone for gaming, but if you ever considering unlock the phone by this method(link below) , please let us know if it works. I think it's going to be really useful for a lot of people to make the decision to buy!
Thanks in advance, man.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/how-to/how-to-unlock-huawei-bootloader-removal-t3780903
Connectivity weirdness.....
My Mi Max 2 works well on AT&T. Very good voice and decent data rates.
The max 2 has the same cell signal compatibility as the Honor Note 10, per the website above in a prior post above this.
So, I would assume the Note 10 will have a good signal on At&T (but NOT cricket. Cricket sucks trust me).
The Mi Max 3 has more bands that both the max 2 and note 10 BUT, I had one and it has awful connectivity on at&t for voice calling!!!! Data is merely OK.
So, I might switch from Max 2 to Note 10 since my Max 3 upgrade didn't work out.
I give Note 10 a 50-50 chance of being usable in the USA on AT&T.
I have note 10 and I can get 4g lte on att. It's spotty at my house but I get it so far in the other places I have been.