Will there be a OnePlus with full Verizon US LTE support? If anyone finds any news on which bands will be supported it will be great if you can past them here. Thanks!!
pretty sure its this one isn't it? the 845 modem supports more than before.
cerice74 said:
Will there be a OnePlus with full Verizon US LTE support? If anyone finds any news on which bands will be supported it will be great if you can past them here. Thanks!!
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it shut have global support
OcazPrime said:
pretty sure its this one isn't it? the 845 modem supports more than before.
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Yeah but if it does not have band 13 ( I believe that is Verizons main LTE band) then it OP 6 won't support LTE. I have read older OP will receive service but only up to 3G.
Yes, would love it to support VZW...will gladly sell my Pixel 2 XL to move back to OnePlus. But have no choice. Sucks that the best network in the US is limited for phones with support...damn Verizon...
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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Sent a tweet to the co-founder the other day asking about that...of course support jumps in with their standard "We have no information on this issue at this time. Please stay tuned for more information on our official launch of May 15th."
I know/heard they are looking to find a US partner, since VZW has the largest/best network pretty much in the US, supporting that network gives them a huge opportunity for a flagship phone, I know they need to compete with Google/Samsung in the store, but another alternative for people is always good. As I said, I was forced on to a Pixel 2 XL because it is the only real good phone that works on Verizon, plus you can bootloader unlock and has some Dev support on XDA...with Treble. Otherwise, HTC is another alternative, they have some of the best Dev support on XDA and can bootloader unlock, works on all networks. OnePlus should follow that lead, but build a better phone.
rav101 said:
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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Voice goes over Verizon's LTE as well. They will be shutting does CDMA in a few years
I sure hope so. My area is predominantly Verizon. The three main reasons I bought 1+, is bootloader unlock friendly, headphone jack, and dual SIM. My personal is ATT and my work is Verizon. I hate carrying two phones. I use my personal for data, and the work for just calls and texts. Works out ok, but group messages on Verizon get funky sometime but it's worth it. Plus I wish I could use my company's data instead of personal. The sacrifices to only carrying one phone.....here's to hoping 1+ finally includes all of Verizon's bands! And yes, soon everything will be over LTE, CDMA is going away.
rav101 said:
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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That's actually incorrect. OnePlus has supported CDMA (Band 0) since the OnePlus 3. Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10. Verizon uses Band 0 in almost all markets but there are quite a few major cities where they instead use Band 1 which OnePlus is still missing.
Service on Verizon is tied to the SIM and not the device. That's why users have used OnePlus 3/5 devices on Verizon successfully with service over Band 0 CDMA and Band 2/4 LTE. I do recall some indicating that there issues when switching between CDMA/LTE, but this may have since been resolved.
However, obviously the band support is far from optimal. If the 6 just adds B13 LTE then the OP6 would be viable for Verizon-use. I don't expect it will happen, but I believe it was brought to Carl Pei's attention at some point. It's not very difficult to add B13 LTE, so it's possible but not expected that they'd add support. Let's see what happens.
Also, using Dual SIM is an option lest you forget.
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That's actually incorrect. OnePlus has supported CDMA (Band 0) since the OnePlus 3. Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10. Verizon uses Band 0 in almost all markets but there are quite a few major cities where they instead use Band 1 which OnePlus is still missing.
Service on Verizon is tied to the SIM and not the device. That's why users have used OnePlus 3/5 devices on Verizon successfully with service over Band 0 CDMA and Band 2/4 LTE. I do recall some indicating that there issues when switching between CDMA/LTE, but this may have since been resolved.
However, obviously the band support is far from optimal. If the 6 just adds B13 LTE then the OP6 would be viable for Verizon-use. I don't expect it will happen, but I believe it was brought to Carl Pei's attention at some point. It's not very difficult to add B13 LTE, so it's possible but not expected that they'd add support. Let's see what happens.
Also, using Dual SIM is an option lest you forget.
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I stand corrected
Sent from my OnePlus 5 using XDA Labs
Based on this pic I got from the not quite fully working spec page, OnePlus 6 doesn't support the main verizon band of 13.
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Just read XDA's page on the specs:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-specifications-pricing-availability/
Band 0 for CDMA is there, no Band 13 :crying:
Fear_The_Fluff said:
Just read XDA's page on the specs:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-specifications-pricing-availability/
Band 0 for CDMA is there, no Band 13 :crying:
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Is band 2 and 4 not good enough?? Just curious.
suzook said:
Is band 2 and 4 not good enough?? Just curious.
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Its never good enough lol
I use a 2nd phone for hotspot only, I would like to be able to use the primary bands for that phone. Now with 5G rolling out I wonder if maybe oneplus will add the bands for verizon's 5G when they implement it? Wishful thinking tho.
Boo....VZW and OnePLus...between the two of them...what a mess for customers. Love to get rid of my Pixel 2xl. Thing is so bulky/huge. There is really no other phone on VZW you can bootloader unlock/root with great specs and performance.
Hoping OnePlus 6 would come through...guess not. Stuck with Pixel 2 for now.
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Boo....VZW and OnePLus...between the two of them...what a mess for customers. Love to get rid of my Pixel 2xl. Thing is so bulky/huge. There is really no other phone on VZW you can bootloader unlock/root with great specs and performance.
Hoping OnePlus 6 would come through...guess not. Stuck with Pixel 2 for now.
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If I don't unlock/root are there any good spec phones at good price? I'm on a ZTE axon 7 with VZW but I can't use data when on a call and it's always losing the APN it's set to. I was really hoping the OnePlus would be my answer. I really need a stable phone.
I will report what i get on mine before i probably return it. No Verizon support? Seriously? They deserve this return, i literally assumed they had that implemented by now. LoL
I'm about to unbox & try it now, how disappointing....
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I will report what i get on mine before i probably return it. No Verizon support? Seriously? They deserve this return, i literally assumed they had that implemented by now. LoL
I'm about to unbox & try it now, how disappointing....
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Lte only, no phone calls.
So let me get this right, the voice calling is what's missing on Verizon? What if i primarily use internet based calling via Google Hangouts (old Google voice number) for calling? I'm on an old limited minutes but unlimited data Verizon plan (old grandfathered in plans) so data is unrestricted but minutes aren't used much anyway. Normally i only use the regular line if service for LTE is just too poor for VOIP calls. It would be an inconvenience but maybe not a deal breaker.
I'd love to hear any thoughts before i decide to unbox it or just sell it. I have the 256gb model which is now sold out. Breaks my heart to not be able to use it on Verizon.
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Can anyone that owns either of the Verizon branded phones try the following steps to see if they can get AT&T working? These were taken from the original Droid RAZR forums:
All Verizon ics roms are lock but there a way around that. First be rooted
Then got to build. Plist and change the ro. Telephony default to 7. 7means global phone.
Then go to *#*#4636#*#* and change the radio to wcdma preferred.
That should give u Gsm in tmobile
I would really like to have a Droid RAZR maxx on at&t. I would be willing to give up lte connectivity to have it.
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Can anyone that owns either of the Verizon branded phones try the following steps to see if they can get AT&T working? These were taken from the original Droid RAZR forums:
All Verizon ics roms are lock but there a way around that. First be rooted
Then got to build. Plist and change the ro. Telephony default to 7. 7means global phone.
Then go to *#*#4636#*#* and change the radio to wcdma preferred.
That should give u Gsm in tmobile
I would really like to have a Droid RAZR maxx on at&t. I would be willing to give up lte connectivity to have it.
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Got one today and just got it rooted. Can you point me to the forum these were taken out of?
Razar HD
thinking of getting it, r u happy with the phone ??
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Got one today and just got it rooted. Can you point me to the forum these were taken out of?
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I can't remember where I snagged it. If you just use root explorer you can go through the file system and make those changes. Then pop in a T-Mobile, or att sim and see what you come up with. You may have to let it sit a while before it grabs service.
The other gsm thread says that it may be blocked on the radio firmware. How awesome would it be if a build.prop hack could fix it. I want the maxx so badly, but won't give up my s3 until someone can confirm it working for at&t/tmobile
No good.
Changed build.prop as advised:
Code:
# BEGIN Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
# GSM SMS traffic needs to be routed/sent through North America SMSC.
# This is part of the VZW World-phone Feature. SMS are always sent to a US SMSC and then injected
# into that network. This allows for billing and give the user the impression that the device is
# still in the US.
ro.telephony.gsm-routes-us-smsc = 1
# END Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
ro.mot.ril.danlist=611,*611,#611
[B]ro.telephony.default_network=7[/B]
Inserted active AT&T MicroSIM with iPhone unlimited data plan.
Changed Preferred Network Type in Phone info to WCDMA preferred. Let the phone sit for ten minutes.
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Now I have an angry RAZR MAXX HD, scanning for service continuously. Phone status shows no network type, signal, nada. Angry phone is angry. Rolled back changes.
Good try, but we are not living in the OG Droid era anymore.
TRF-Inferno said:
No good.
Changed build.prop as advised:
Code:
# BEGIN Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
# GSM SMS traffic needs to be sent through North America SMSC.
# This is part of the VZW World-phone Feature. SMS are always sent to a US SMSC and then injected
# into that network. This allows for billing and give the user the impression that the device is
# still in the US.
ro.telephony.gsm-routes-us-smsc = 1
# END Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
ro.mot.ril.danlist=611,*611,#611
[B]ro.telephony.default_network=7[/B]
Inserted active AT&T MicroSIM with iPhone unlimited data plan.
Changed Preferred Network Type in Phone info to WCDMA preferred. Let the phone sit for ten minutes.
Now I have an angry RAZR MAXX HD, scanning for service continuously. Phone status shows no network type, signal, nada. Angry phone is angry. Rolled back changes.
Good try, but we are not living in the OG Droid era anymore.
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We all definitely appreciate the effort though. I may buy one and use it on wifi only until I can figure a hack out. The radios are there, just blocked somehow from North American carriers.
seh6183 said:
We all definitely appreciate the effort though. I may buy one and use it on wifi only until I can figure a hack out. The radios are there, just blocked somehow from North American carriers.
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If you were going to buy one, why not go the XT925 from Rogers? It is fully compatible with AT&T's network; the Verizon version as-is can't even get voice connectivity.
Regardless, I will give it another shot, at least not trying to do this at work will give me time to tinker with it more extensively.
TRF-Inferno said:
If you were going to buy one, why not go the XT925 from Rogers? It is fully compatible with AT&T's network; the Verizon version as-is can't even get voice connectivity.
Regardless, I will give it another shot, at least not trying to do this at work will give me time to tinker with it more extensively.
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Please tell me Rogers has the same LTE bands
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Please tell me Rogers has the same LTE bands
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The two carriers have the same 3G bands but different LTE band, but the Rogers' RAZR supports both carrier's LTE bands. Something to keep in mind, if you are looking for an international phone for that supports AT&T's 3G/LTE bands, look for a phone that has UMTS 850/1900 for 3G and Band 17 700 MHz LTE.
Be careful not mix Verizon's and AT&T's LTE bands up, because they're both theoretically 700 MHz spectrum, but Verizon's is actually Band 13 while AT&T's is Band 17.
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The two have the same 3G bands but different LTE band, but the Rogers' RAZR supports both carrier's LTE bands. Something to keep in mind, if you are looking for an international phone for that supports AT&T's 3G/LTE bands, look for a phone that has UMTS 850/1900 for 3G and Band 17 700 MHz LTE.
Be careful not mix Verizon's and AT&T's LTE bands up, because they're both theoretically 700 MHz spectrum, but Verizon's is actually Band 13 while AT&T's is Band 17.
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Well this is amazing news. Now please tell me Rogers will be getting the Maxx!
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Well this is amazing news. Now please tell me Rogers will be getting the Maxx!
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From what I've heard so far, there are no plans for Rogers to carry the MAXX.
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From what I've heard so far, there are no plans for Rogers to carry the MAXX.
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Never can have it all, it seems How might I even go about getting my hands on a Rogers RAZR? Look on Craigslist in Canada or something?
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Never can have it all, it seems How might I even go about getting my hands on a Rogers RAZR? Look on Craigslist in Canada or something?
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+1... I've been looking all over.
Keep looking on www.expansys-usa.com it'll eventually get on there
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big ach said:
Keep looking on www.expansys-usa.com it'll eventually get on there
Sent from my Motorola Droid Xyboard 10.1 with Verizon 4G LTE
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As much as I'm dying to have this phone, I would never pay 799 plus tax to have it. Even the original Droid RAZR maxx is still 739 on there. I'll just check Craigslist in Canada and get someone to ship it.
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Never can have it all, it seems How might I even go about getting my hands on a Rogers RAZR? Look on Craigslist in Canada or something?
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Find someone in Canada willing to buy and ship it to you. It is an expensive proposition though as it will cost you about $700 by the time it reaches your door!
rajeshr said:
Find someone in Canada willing to buy and ship it to you. It is an expensive proposition though as it will cost you about $700 by the time it reaches your door!
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Yea ill wait for a used one to go on craigs in Canada.
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Yea ill wait for a used one to go on craigs in Canada.
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I found one in Canada for like 450 but he refuses to ship it, local sale only.
Youngunn2008 said:
I found one in Canada for like 450 but he refuses to ship it, local sale only.
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I'm gonna keep my eyes peeled.
Okay, so...I've been looking at numerous slider phones, and the Photon Q is the one that's probably the closest to my ideal phone that I've yet seen. I currently have Cricket, but T-Mobile's Value Plans seem to be the best deal for my needs. I know that the Photon Q supports both CDMA and GSM, but can it be unlocked to actually work on T-Mobile's network? It seems T-Mobile requires the 1700 MHz band for their 3G service, but not for their (current) 4G. Would this phone work in 4G areas, at 4G speeds, then?
Also, if I understand correctly, using GSM on the Photon Q isn't as simple as just popping in a SIM card. Apparently, Motorola has opted for a hard-soldered SIM, so if you want to switch to a network that SIM card doesn't support, you have to do some soldering (or get someone else to do so). If this is the case, it's pretty close to a dealbraker for me, though I MIGHT still go for it, if I can definitely find someone who can get it to work with T-Mobile.
Well, you are correct about the hard-soldered SIM.
See this thread about what the hack entails.
Now, to my knowledge - this hack has only been done OUTSIDE of the US. I would think since you're physically putting your SIM in place of the Sprint-specific SIM, that it would work... but I don't think anyone has actually done it yet.
Just be cautious. You seem to have done your homework.
Cool...checking that thread now. If anyone knows if this is possible to do with T-Mobile USA, or if anyone actually HAS done this, PLEASE let me know! T-Mo does have a phone I'd settle for, if this can't be done, and I'd seriously consider it, since it'd be less risky. But if this can be done reliably and without issues, I'd slightly prefer going this route, even if mostly just for the bigger screen.
And for that matter...since I don't already have service with T-Mobile, and I'd be starting NEW service...is there something about the SIM that's soldered on, that makes it unusable for T-Mobile? Wouldn't there be some information I'd be able to get from the built-in SIM that I could tell them, in order to activate THAT SIM with their service?
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And for that matter...since I don't already have service with T-Mobile, and I'd be starting NEW service...is there something about the SIM that's soldered on, that makes it unusable for T-Mobile? Wouldn't there be some information I'd be able to get from the built-in SIM that I could tell them, in order to activate THAT SIM with their service?
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The build-in SIM is for international roaming....
You would have to put a TMobile SIM in. Make sense?
Yeah...just wasn't sure if it was preprogrammed, and unable to be re-programmed. Anyway, I'm leaning toward the phone that T-Mobile DOES carry, that's almost as good, just not QUITE as big a screen, and just SLIGHTLY lower resolution. But looks to be good enough. (Samsung Galaxy S Relay)
Few notes: On Droid 4 (which has normal microSIM card) other US carriers are SIM locked by the modem software (the rest of World works) - so some risk is there too. Additionally as far as I know, T-Mobile US has mostly 3G on 1700 MHz, while Photon Q supports 850 / 1900 / 2100 MHz - so you'll have trouble with 3G. Also LTE is on 1900 MHz which is emplyoed only by Sprint as I read, so no avail there either on T-Mobile. Additionally, it looks like Photon Q has no EDGE, so you'll enjoy nice 2.5G most of the time, unless you are in the 1900 MHz area for 3G.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Few notes: On Droid 4 (which has normal microSIM card) other US carriers are SIM locked by the modem software (the rest of World works) - so some risk is there too. Additionally as far as I know, T-Mobile US has mostly 3G on 1700 MHz, while Photon Q supports 850 / 1900 / 2100 MHz - so you'll have trouble with 3G. Also LTE is on 1900 MHz which is emplyoed only by Sprint as I read, so no avail there either on T-Mobile. Additionally, it looks like Photon Q has no EDGE, so you'll enjoy nice 2.5G most of the time, unless you are in the 1900 MHz area for 3G.
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Quite the dream crusher. This would have been the perfect phone for me if I were able to just flash it over to T Mobile for service in the US. Humph, guess I'll finally have to go for a fully touch phone (yuck) or just keep the current lame thing I have (Galaxy Indulge on MetroPCS :l ) until I find something remotely better.
Why not try a droid 4,i know there is a way to get that working on gsm carriers.
Im currently using a droid 3 that works on gsm carriers and its pretty good.im running it on att and the only comparable slider on att is the captivate glide.
i would love to be able to use a photon q on att but there does not seem to be an easy way to do it...
Droid 4 has simcard slot for GSM and with some mods,I can use RUIM CDMA. It also has HSDPA and Evdo revB support. Really an all in one phone. but,I heard the GSM won't work on USA. I'm ordering a Photon Q. I hope it's better than my D4. I know I have to mod the hardware to use slot simcard. So,I might pass it and using CDMA only via flashing my own carrier.
I tried a friend's droid 4 a while back and remember not liking it. Thinking now though I may be confusing my experience with another device.
From my understanding I thought you could softmod the phone to GSM but I guess I've been reading wrong the entire time. Don't want to plop down money and say screw it and buy the phone only to get it and put it all the effort to have it not work, then have to boggle through the return process.
sad face.
edit: really wish I could remember my old account... I feel like such a n00b with a lame join date
It looks like that even if there was a SW SIM lock, it's bypassable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
But the problem with the bands still prevails.
AW: [Q] Considering Photon Q...for T-mobile?
I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
If it would be possible to use the Q without soldering in Germany with a german provider i would have changed my contract to this provider. The Q is definetly worth the trouble.
I've had to make the sim mod done by cornolio (Thanks again man for this awsom work!) And now hav one of the best phones in my oppinion here in germany working.
The only disadvantage I can life with is the unusable LTE because of the lack of frequencies in Germany.
Just my 2 cents
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kecksk0enig said:
I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
If it would be possible to use the Q without soldering in Germany with a german provider i would have changed my contract to this provider. The Q is definetly worth the trouble.
I've had to make the sim mod done by cornolio (Thanks again man for this awsom work!) And now hav one of the best phones in my oppinion here in germany working.
The only disadvantage I can life with is the unusable LTE because of the lack of frequencies in Germany.
Just my 2 cents
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I'm considering this option due to AT&T pricing and availability of my current unlimited data plan.
kecksk0enig said:
I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
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That depends on the area. With the whole network vision upgrade in the chicago area and their new endeavor to absorb all of the US cellular customers in the chicago area, it has been a challenge to remain loyal to sprint. Most annoying thing is answering the phone and having the person on the other end not be able to hear you. This has been going on with every 3rd or 4th call i get for two months. I stick with sprint because i have always had good results with their customer service and i use alot of data. No one else offers really unlimited data in this area.
UGHHH!!!
I want this device usable on T-Mobile SOOOOOO BAD!!!
kecksk0enig said:
I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
If it would be possible to use the Q without soldering in Germany with a german provider i would have changed my contract to this provider. The Q is definetly worth the trouble.
I've had to make the sim mod done by cornolio (Thanks again man for this awsom work!) And now hav one of the best phones in my oppinion here in germany working.
The only disadvantage I can life with is the unusable LTE because of the lack of frequencies in Germany.
Just my 2 cents
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Pricing is a big deal sprint is better than Verizon but thats not saying much. Tmo recently went to an everything unlimited for a flat rate pricing plan and before that there is a smaller lesser known company called simple mobile that basicly sells you tmo service for a flat rate like tmo does now but its less a month. If I could put my simple mobile sim in the photon Q I would be getting unlimited miniutes txt and data at 40 for 3g or 50 for 4g with sprint the cheapest plan with only 450 miniutes is 80 by comparison.
The photon Q does support hsdpa at 1900mhz which, too my knowledge, tmobile just got set up on the national scale. Could be wrong though
I would absolutely love a souped up Photon Q for T-Mobile, not some ratty looking Spec'd up ugly slider.
So for any unlikely Moto Design Employees reading this thread (chances - slim to none) haha, the device of my dreams...
Motorola Photon Q Styled...
- 4.5" 1080p Corning Gorilla Glass 3 Protected Display
- Military 810G Water/Dust Proof Device
- 2,500mAh Lithium-Ion Battery
- Native T-Mobile 4G LTE, HSPA, HSPA+, 3G & Edge Capable Device
- 1.8ghz Quad-Core Processor w/ 3GB of RAM
- 10+MP HD/1080P Camera-Camcorder
- WiFi
- Bluetooth 4.0+ w/ Backwards Compatability
- NFC
- IR Blastster
- Unlock(ed/able) Bootloader
- Android 4.3
- Dual Noise Cancelling Microphones
- MHL Support
- Scratch-proof Bezel
- Carbon Fiber Enforced...
(Something that would blow the S4 & HTC ONE to Shreds!)
I can sure dream though, right? Tell me something, am I the only one feeling this way???
I have the S3, and I bought it for the internals not the look. This device would be awesome, anyone agree?
Well, the Motorola Droid 5 possibly for Verizon has leaked. In recent, those new Verizon Moto LTE Devices have been able to run on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA Networks. Not 4GLTE, but I'll take it. Now for those who aren't up to speed, don't mock me, yes Verizon uses CDMA, but they use GSM for LTE, hence the sim card slots on their devices.
It's supposed to be rugged and have built in Qi-Charging!!!!
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Anyone here using the tmobile $30 dollar prepaid plan and have issue getting LTE? I got my phone a bit over a week ago and love it but there is the issue of no lte. Somehow I can only get up to hspa+ on ym oneplus and this is the newest respond from tforce.
Thanks for checking back, our engineers said at this time it is not a feature we can push to a prepaid account and in order to achieve LTE on that device you would need to change to a no credit check account.
Any advise?
xellos2099 said:
Anyone here using the tmobile $30 dollar prepaid plan and have issue getting LTE? I got my phone a bit over a week ago and love it but there is the issue of no lte. Somehow I can only get up to hspa+ on ym oneplus and this is the newest respond from tforce.
Thanks for checking back, our engineers said at this time it is not a feature we can push to a prepaid account and in order to achieve LTE on that device you would need to change to a no credit check account.
Any advise?
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The only thing I know that will work is if you have another LTE phone. Is to activate it on that sim by giving them the IMEI number from that phone. Then put the sim back in your One Plus and make sure you have the right APN and you should be good to go.
If not your extra phone maybe a friends LTE phones IMEI number.
Good luck..
Few questions,
1. Are you on the right APN? fast.t-mobile.com on IPv6?
2. How old is your SIM card? Was the SIM card used in another device that is LTE enabled?
3. What OnePlus One do you have? International or Chinese version? (International has Cyanogen logo in the back)
4. Just FYI... "4G" on the OPO is LTE.
5. I believe I've known others who are using the $30 plan who are on LTE. I believe that the T Force member provided you with false information and wanted you to pay more. @jarjar124 is on the $30 plan so maybe he can provide some insight? I'm pretty sure $30 plan can get LTE. And I don't believe you need to provide them with your IMEI to be LTE provisioned. Thats what AT&T does, not T-Mobile.
If your phone is the Chinese version, then I don't think it can get LTE bands as T-mobile uses bands LTE 4/2
zephiK said:
Few questions,
1. Are you on the right APN? fast.t-mobile.com on IPv6?
2. How old is your SIM card? Was the SIM card used in another device that is LTE enabled?
3. What OnePlus One do you have? International or Chinese version? (International has Cyanogen logo in the back)
4. Just FYI... "4G" on the OPO is LTE.
5. I believe I've known others who are using the $30 plan who are on LTE. I believe that the T Force member provided you with false information and wanted you to pay more. @jarjar124 is on the $30 plan so maybe he can provide some insight? I'm pretty sure $30 plan can get LTE. And I don't believe you need to provide them with your IMEI to be LTE provisioned. Thats what AT&T does, not T-Mobile.
If your phone is the Chinese version, then I don't think it can get LTE bands as T-mobile uses bands LTE 4/2
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They played that game with the nexus 4 but it wasn't LTE but as you know with the modem hack most of use used it. But I had to give them my S3 IMEI. Then all was good. So maybe he is a new customer like I was at the time and they don't show the One as an LTE phone on there network as of yet.
But Yeah @jarjar124 is a great guy and he may be able to give more in site to this.
For me it says 4G, but I'm on LTE speeds. You can check using the speedtest app. Just don't do it quite often because it uses data like crazy lol. It worked out of the box for me. No needed to change APN or anything.
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Vortex1969 said:
They played that game with the nexus 4 but it wasn't LTE but as you know with the modem hack most of use used it. But I had to give them my S3 IMEI. Then all was good. So maybe he is a new customer like I was at the time and they don't show the One as an LTE phone on there network as of yet.
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Yup.. used the Hybrid Radios to activate LTE. The last T-Mobile on contract phone I got from T-Mobile was the Galaxy S1 and didn't have any problems. The main thing I needed to do was to update my SIM card because it was a very old one that wasn't able to get LTE signals.
If the OP did get the Chinese version then I'm sure that he won't be able to get LTE I believe. I could be wrong though. I'll have to look this up but I think the highest signal they can get on TMo is HSPA
Edit: Yup I was right. https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/untitled_1-jpeg.27662/
Chinese OPO LTE FDD: 1800/2100/2600MHz
TD-LTE....... (only used in China)
If you search on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
T-Mobile supports LTE Band 12 (limited markets, 700), 4(1700d,e,f), 2(1900)
So it is possible OP has the Chinese OPO which causes a conflict.
For me it says 4G, but I'm on LTE speeds. You can check using the speedtest app. Just don't do it quite often because it uses data like crazy lol. It worked out of the box for me. No needed to change APN or anything.
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Same here, it worked out of the box. Speedtest doesn't count towards your data now
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...data-no-longer-counts-against-data-allowances
zephiK said:
Yup.. used the Hybrid Radios to activate LTE. The last T-Mobile on contract phone I got from T-Mobile was the Galaxy S1 and didn't have any problems. The main thing I needed to do was to update my SIM card because it was a very old one that wasn't able to get LTE signals.
If the OP did get the Chinese version then I'm sure that he won't be able to get LTE I believe. I could be wrong though. I'll have to look this up but I think the highest signal they can get on TMo is HSPA
Edit: Yup I was right. https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/untitled_1-jpeg.27662/
Chinese OPO LTE FDD: 1800/2100/2600MHz
TD-LTE....... (only used in China)
If you search on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
T-Mobile supports LTE Band 12 (limited markets, 700), 4(1700d,e,f), 2(1900)
So it is possible OP has the Chinese OPO which causes a conflict.
Same here, it worked out of the box. Speedtest doesn't count towards your data now
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...data-no-longer-counts-against-data-allowances
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Really? Or is that just for simple choice plans? The prepaids don't have any of the advantages of the simple choice (free international texts/data, music streaming not counting etc). On my nexus 5, LTE worked out of the box too. Just needed the right APN.
zephiK said:
Yup.. used the Hybrid Radios to activate LTE. The last T-Mobile on contract phone I got from T-Mobile was the Galaxy S1 and didn't have any problems. The main thing I needed to do was to update my SIM card because it was a very old one that wasn't able to get LTE signals.
If the OP did get the Chinese version then I'm sure that he won't be able to get LTE I believe. I could be wrong though. I'll have to look this up but I think the highest signal they can get on TMo is HSPA
Edit: Yup I was right. https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/untitled_1-jpeg.27662/
Chinese OPO LTE FDD: 1800/2100/2600MHz
TD-LTE....... (only used in China)
If you search on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
T-Mobile supports LTE Band 12 (limited markets, 700), 4(1700d,e,f), 2(1900)
So it is possible OP has the Chinese OPO which causes a conflict.
Same here, it worked out of the box. Speedtest doesn't count towards your data now
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...data-no-longer-counts-against-data-allowances
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I am on the right apn
New sim card
I got the international one direct from oneplus invite XD
I put in my friend's sim card and it got 4g, my card show hspa+
xellos2099 said:
I am on the right apn
New sim card
I got the international one direct from oneplus invite XD
I put in my friend's sim card and it got 4g, my card show hspa+
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It can also be the sim. Some sims can affect the cellular reception which can lead to your phone not reading LTE. How long did u leave your sim in? It can take time for it to switch from hspa to LTE. Where I live, it switches from hspa to LTE and vice versa constantly due to the buildings and coverage. I'm not a big person on cellular reception etc so someone please correct me if I'm wrong lol.
jarjar124 said:
Really? Or is that just for simple choice plans? The prepaids don't have any of the advantages of the simple choice (free international texts/data, music streaming not counting etc). On my nexus 5, LTE worked out of the box too. Just needed the right APN.
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Good question, I have no idea. I'll have to go and take a look. Just applying common sense, I think it'd be everybody regardless of their plans since when you do a speedtest you do submit information to speedtest servers so it would only help t mobile to have the best results.
I am on the right apn
New sim card
I got the international one direct from oneplus invite XD
I put in my friend's sim card and it got 4g, my card show hspa+
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Can you show us your APN just so we can double check?
Where did you get your SIM card? From T-Mobile directly? Some sellers sell SIM cards but they don't have LTE support. Try putting your SIM card into your friend's phone and see if you get LTE on his phone.
zephiK said:
Good question, I have no idea. I'll have to go and take a look. Just applying common sense, I think it'd be everybody regardless of their plans since when you do a speedtest you do submit information to speedtest servers so it would only help t mobile to have the best results.
Can you show us your APN just so we can double check?
Where did you get your SIM card? From T-Mobile directly? Some sellers sell SIM cards but they don't have LTE support. Try putting your SIM card into your friend's phone and see if you get LTE on his phone.
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I'll check and let you guys know on the speed test.
Edit: It seems like it still uses, but it uses very little compared to before. Or its just using data for me to check how much I used lol
jarjar124 said:
I'll check and let you guys know on the speed test.
Edit: It seems like it still uses, but it uses very little compared to before. Or its just using data for me to check how much I used lol
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Maybe the second one lol. The only way to really know is, well... surpass your 5GB monthly data allowance and then be throttled down then run a speedtest. See if the results return LTE speeds or your throttled speed.
xellos2099 said:
Anyone here using the tmobile $30 dollar prepaid plan and have issue getting LTE? I got my phone a bit over a week ago and love it but there is the issue of no lte. Somehow I can only get up to hspa+ on ym oneplus and this is the newest respond from tforce.
Thanks for checking back, our engineers said at this time it is not a feature we can push to a prepaid account and in order to achieve LTE on that device you would need to change to a no credit check account.
Any advise?
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After reading a the responses and seeing you talked to them and have a new sim. I would think it is what I was talking about that phone dose not show up in there system as an LTE device as of yet.
Does your friend have T-Mobile if so I would think that is the case. If you used his sim and got LTE. I had it happen as I stated with my nexus 4 as a new customer. But using me S3 IMEI it worked when I put the sim back in my N4.
zephiK said:
Good question, I have no idea. I'll have to go and take a look. Just applying common sense, I think it'd be everybody regardless of their plans since when you do a speedtest you do submit information to speedtest servers so it would only help t mobile to have the best results.
Can you show us your APN just so we can double check?
Where did you get your SIM card? From T-Mobile directly? Some sellers sell SIM cards but they don't have LTE support. Try putting your SIM card into your friend's phone and see if you get LTE on his phone.
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http://imgur.com/gfna4hB
I used to have old sim, I went to t mobile store and they give me a new one and activate it there so I know it is new.
Vortex1969 said:
After reading a the responses and seeing you talked to them and have a new sim. I would think it is what I was talking about that phone dose not show up in there system as an LTE device as of yet.
Does your friend have T-Mobile if so I would think that is the case. I had it happen as I stated with my nexus 4 as a new customer. But using me S3 IMEI it worked when I put the sim back in my N4.
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The problem is that I don't think T-Mobile has OnePlus One IMEIs in their database. I've read that on a Reddit AMA with OnePlus employees. You'd have to give them a IMEI for a 4G compatible phone... or call them and hopefully you can find a good service representative who will help you out and provise you accordingly if everything else checks out (APN, SIM card,etc)
zephiK said:
Maybe the second one lol. The only way to really know is, well... surpass your 5GB monthly data allowance and then be throttled down then run a speedtest. See if the results return LTE speeds or your throttled speed.
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Funny thing I rarely surpass the 5gb
Only did it twice. Once was live streaming Google io 2013 and when downloading a rom kept going wrong lol.
jarjar124 said:
Funny thing I rarely surpass the 5gb
Only did it twice. Once was live streaming Google io 2013 and when downloading a rom kept going wrong lol.
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Hmm, well before your monthly cycle ends.... leave Netflix on over night or something so you can pass your limit and then you'll know if it counts for everybody lol. I usually run a speed test if im in a new area and then if its not high enough compared to my peak i just kill the app so it doesnt finish the speed test
zephiK said:
The problem is that I don't think T-Mobile has OnePlus One IMEIs in their database. I've read that on a Reddit AMA with OnePlus employees. You'd have to give them a IMEI for a 4G compatible phone... or call them and hopefully you can find a good service representative who will help you out and provise you accordingly if everything else checks out (APN, SIM card,etc)
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Yeap that is what I am saying I have seen it happen to many others even with a new accounts when the nexus 5 came out. Just reading that he talked to a rep tells me that its not in the system yet. And if he is a new to T that could be it. Give an old or other 4g IMEI will work.
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jarjar124 said:
For me it says 4G, but I'm on LTE speeds. You can check using the speedtest app. Just don't do it quite often because it uses data like crazy lol. It worked out of the box for me. No needed to change APN or anything.
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Light weight that's slow..j/k[emoji12]
Vortex1969 said:
Yeap that is what I am saying I have seen it happen to many others even with a new accounts when the nexus 5 came out.
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Light weight that's slow..j/k[emoji12]
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jarjar gave me a idea and i started a speedtest thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/oneplus-one-speed-test-result-thread-t2844144 lets get it populated
zephiK said:
jarjar gave me a idea and i started a speedtest thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/oneplus-one-speed-test-result-thread-t2844144 lets get it populated
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Well, I am not new to mobile, but the last device I got was a Galaxy Nexus which might be the problem since it was a hspa+ device. So what are my choices? Can I borrow a friend lte device and just give them the imei?
So I'm jumping ship from sprint finally and will have my 12/256 pro in my hands tomorrow. With that said, are there any perks from att over T-Mobile with T-Mobile being the sole distributor. Seems att has better coverage in the areas I travel to but I've only noticed talks of t mobiles branded version. Tia
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Personally, I'd say Google Fi. It's basically T-mobile on the cheap. I've been paying about $45 a month (I use wifi a lot), which beats the $70/mo Tmobile Unlimited plan price. Price never goes above $60, so even if I use the hell out of it, I'm still saving a few bucks.
I use T-Mobile. Best service between Philly and DC (used to use Verizon for 16 years until 5 years ago) I get Unlimited everything with 3 lines. I put my Mom and sister on a family plan with me for $100 a month that includes all the taxes and fees. With T-Mobile Tuesdays (their app) I get 10-25cents off a gallon of shell gas once a week and a few other freebies that takes each of the $33 we pay down to about $25 a month per line.
Service is great, works flawlessly with T-Mobile. I haven't seen a dead spot yet and speeds never throttle even in the cities. I can use up to 70gb a month but usually stay around 20-30gb.
I'm gonna give it a shot on VZW
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Prepaid Verizon. My 6T went to a family member in need of a phone, so just gonna pop the VZW sim used in that 6T into my 7 Pro when it gets here. In the meantime, I'm posting this with that sim in my Nexus 6:silly:.. which is running surprisingly well on Pie (Nitrogen)!!
TMobile obviously
Got the phone. Went to Best Buy and paid $10 for a Google Fi SIM. Walked out to my car, popped it into the phone, started the Fi app, told it to take my # from my Pixel, and in about 20 seconds I was making a call.
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I'll get a $10 credit to my account to make the SIM free.
I have been on Mint for almost a year now. It runs off of tmobile and i pay $150 every 6 months which comes out to $25/month for 8GB of data. I am on wifi most of the time so having unlimited data doesn't benefit me much.
I'm having good luck with Verizon. Everything works except for VoWiFi and I can't for the life of me figure out how to fix it although I am considering switching to T-Mobile or Mint.
I really wish we had Fi here in Canada.
KingGlade said:
I'm having good luck with Verizon. Everything works except for VoWiFi and I can't for the life of me figure out how to fix it although I am considering switching to T-Mobile or Mint.
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Vowifi is for registered VZW devices only. Unlocked phones won't see this feature ever. Just another way for big red to lock it down.
I am on T-Mobile. Great service. Have a T-Mobile only tower under a mile away from my home. VoLTE and VoWIFI works great with my OP7Pro (bought directly from OP so not a T-Mobile branded version - I wanted faster updates) In Michigan, not sure elsewhere, but T-Mobile has their own towers as well as using all of the AT&T towers. So, for me, T-Mobile is like AT&T-plus in terms of coverage. Plus I am under a company account with T-Mobile so I get a lot of data including tethering/hotspot for no extra cost. I just moved the SIM card from one phone to this new OP7Pro and I am up and going flawlessly. No issues with VoiceMail, VoLTE, or VoWIFI.
I would be going to google FI if T-Mobile ever became a problem.
vsanch24 said:
I am on T-Mobile. Great service. Have a T-Mobile only tower under a mile away from my home. VoLTE and VoWIFI works great with my OP7Pro (bought directly from OP so not a T-Mobile branded version - I wanted faster updates) In Michigan, not sure elsewhere, but T-Mobile has their own towers as well as using all of the AT&T towers. So, for me, T-Mobile is like AT&T-plus in terms of coverage. Plus I am under a company account with T-Mobile so I get a lot of data including tethering/hotspot for no extra cost. I just moved the SIM card from one phone to this new OP7Pro and I am up and going flawlessly. No issues with VoiceMail, VoLTE, or VoWIFI.
I would be going to google FI if T-Mobile ever became a problem.
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So you put in a T-Mobile sim and VoWIFI worked? I was getting mixed answers on this, some people say it doesnt, some people say it does, I also have one directly from OP and didnt wanna switch carriers then find out I cant use it.
Thanks,
Sean
hollovoid said:
So you put in a T-Mobile sim and VoWIFI worked? I was getting mixed answers on this, some people say it doesnt, some people say it does, I also have one directly from OP and didnt wanna switch carriers then find out I cant use it.
Thanks,
Sean
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Yes, I was able to make and receive phone calls on my OP7Pro. The top bar listed VoWIFI on my screen at the time of these two test phone calls. Each test was about 12 minutes in length. I have since changed my priority due to me making/receiving a lot of calls and have to stay on them and travel to locations from VoWIFI to VoLTE. But it did work fine for me. Not sure if it is due to me being on a business account (tied to my wife's company) or if I am just lucky. Fingers crossed it will just work for you.
I'm on T-Mobile, and had VOWIFI and VOLTE immediately after switching sim also.
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T-Mobile usa works a treat...
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Vowifi is for registered VZW devices only. Unlocked phones won't see this feature ever. Just another way for big red to lock it down.
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That's not 100% accurate. I had the Pixel XL through Google but was able to use the VoWiFi and VoLTE without issue.
I believe my unlocked Nexus 6 was also able. The issue is probably that OnePlus would need to activate that particular VZW flavor of VoWiFi. It seems to have different implementations between carriers.
Edit: Also the case with my unlocked iPhone XS Max.
So, I'm guessing you can't use the One Plus 7 pro on Sprint??
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Im also jumping ship on sprint. Verizion offers a 250 gift card for new ppl, and tmobile is offering 3rd line free basically. 2 lines 120 3 lines 120
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I tried to. Sprint sim works for a few mins, internet works but call doesnt then you get error sim card locked
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Yes, I was able to make and receive phone calls on my OP7Pro. The top bar listed VoWIFI on my screen at the time of these two test phone calls. Each test was about 12 minutes in length. I have since changed my priority due to me making/receiving a lot of calls and have to stay on them and travel to locations from VoWIFI to VoLTE. But it did work fine for me. Not sure if it is due to me being on a business account (tied to my wife's company) or if I am just lucky. Fingers crossed it will just work for you.
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So I went and switched from Verizon to T-Mobile, and can confirm, the unlocked OP7 Pro does take on all the T-mobile features, the VoWifi toggle and VoLTE toggle showed up, the stock messanger also is working with RCS as far as I can tell.
Im pretty happy about how seamless it went, and now my calls are showing as numbers instead of restricted, or whatever, lol.
So no one is talking about the missing band 20 on this phone? It is very crucial especially in Europe if you drive by car out of the city. I decided not to buy the phone and maybe wait for a global version or newer version with band 20 support. You can also check cellmapper(.)net for the band coverage.
I have been talking about it... as I said to another UK poster, when it comes to 4g you have to do the homework
Mi 10 Ultra supported bands:
4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41
5G bands 1, 3, 41, 78, 79 SA/NSA
Here in the UK, band 20 is the rural, lower frequency band with the most coverage. So as you say, country trips might be difficult.
But it depends on your network also.
https://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/
EE have repurposed some old 3G frequencies for 4G. I'll let you know how that pans out
But yes, this is something everyone who imports phones should think about!
Since there's no band 20 (4g) in xiaomi mi 10 ultra also no band 42 (5g), in my understanding, in the UK, 4g and 5g both won't work at all on this phone? cheers
vtec303 said:
Since there's no band 20 (4g) in xiaomi mi 10 ultra also no band 42 (5g), in my understanding, in the UK, 4g and 5g both won't work at all on this phone? cheers
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"At all"? That's too extreme a conclusion.
With 4g there are different bands in operation and yes band 20 is the default, largest-range band and the only one you'll get outside of towns and cities. This also highly depends on your network offering the bands the phone supports in the first place; if you're with Giffgaff you're screwed
As for 5g, I checked o2 and EE and they're offering 5g on band n78, which is supported on the Mi 10 Ultra. There's also auctions for further 5G bands next year. It's too early in 5g's rollout to be definitive but the early signs look promising
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"At all"? That's too extreme a conclusion.
With 4g there are different bands in operation and yes band 20 is the default, largest-range band and the only one you'll get outside of towns and cities. This also highly depends on your network offering the bands the phone supports in the first place; if you're with Giffgaff you're screwed
As for 5g, I checked o2 and EE and they're offering 5g on band n78, which is supported on the Mi 10 Ultra. There's also auctions for further 5G bands next year. It's too early in 5g's rollout to be definitive but the early signs look promising
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I did say as far as I understand which also means I could be wrong so no conclusions as of yet, but many thanks for the clarification. Back in the days I was very close to buying a Mi 9 Chinese version with 8gb ram in comparison with the global version which only had 6, but found out it doesn't support band 20 and back than I was with O2 which had the band 20 for 4g. But now I'm with Vodafone and expect at least 4g to be working, cheers.
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I did say as far as I understand which also means I could be wrong so no conclusions as of yet, but many thanks for the clarification. Back in the days I was very close to buying a Mi 9 Chinese version with 8gb ram in comparison with the global version which only had 6, but found out it doesn't support band 20 and back than I was with O2 which had the band 20 for 4g. But now I'm with Vodafone and expect at least 4g to be working, cheers.
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No problem man. I did look into this at length worrying myself so apologies if I sounded short when someone comes in with "I heard it won't work at all!"
I have done my homework. A few people are getting their phones now (a guy in the US has just updated to "Planning to Buy?" thread confirming 4g and 5g work for him) so won't be too long to see for sure..
In terms of offering the most 4g bands that are supported on the phone, EE are best as they repurposed a lot of 3g bands that are supported and coverage checkers verify this, but Vodafone had the second most. I really think apart from rural areas it will be fine on those networks.
I promise when I get the phone I will test it (I am about a mile away from countryside) and report back. It's a bit scary spending almost £1000 on a phone that's not even got the biggest 4g band on it. I'd also like any UK users who get it to do the same.
o2 still offer pretty poor 4g support. I am with Giffgaff who haven't even confirmed 5g yet (technically worse than o2 themselves) so it's off to EE I go! Vodafone seem a safe bet. Here's hoping
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No problem man. I did look into this at length worrying myself so apologies if I sounded short when someone comes in with "I heard it won't work at all!"
I have done my homework. A few people are getting their phones now (a guy in the US has just updated to "Planning to Buy?" thread confirming 4g and 5g work for him) so won't be too long to see for sure..
In terms of offering the most 4g bands that are supported on the phone, EE are best as they repurposed a lot of 3g bands that are supported and coverage checkers verify this, but Vodafone had the second most. I really think apart from rural areas it will be fine on those networks.
I promise when I get the phone I will test it (I am about a mile away from countryside) and report back. It's a bit scary spending almost £1000 on a phone that's not even got the biggest 4g band on it. I'd also like any UK users who get it to do the same.
o2 still offer pretty poor 4g support. I am with Giffgaff who haven't even confirmed 5g yet (technically worse than o2 themselves) so it's off to EE I go! Vodafone seem a safe bet. Here's hoping
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No need to apologise my friend and yes would be great if you update the 4/5 g stats once you get the phone. My primary sim is Vodafone and than I have a Lebara just for the sake of it... lol don't use it a lot they don't offer no 5g atm, hope you like the device, looks amazing in every way apart from the fact display not QHD. Which one did you order the 16/512 or 8/256? I checked out the recommended websites none have the transparent one, atm using a oneplus 8 Pro 12/256 but thinking of getting this xiaomi, cheers.
vtec303 said:
No need to apologise my friend and yes would be great if you update the 4/5 g stats once you get the phone. My primary sim is Vodafone and than I have a Lebara just for the sake of it... lol don't use it a lot they don't offer no 5g atm, hope you like the device, looks amazing in every way apart from the fact display not QHD. Which one did you order the 16/512 or 8/256? I checked out the recommended websites none have the transparent one, atm using a oneplus 8 Pro 12/256 but thinking of getting this xiaomi, cheers.
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Where I ordered it seems to have transparent (I am getting the transparent one with 12gb/256!
https://liaow.com/xiaomi-10-extreme-commemorative-edition-128gb-8gb-transparent.html
I like Xiaomi because Oneplus aren't wireless charing (haven't seen the latest phones from them though), and this one has a graphene battery which may extend battery life.
Nobody offers 5G in the UK unless it's a seperate pack I Can see! even EE... it sucks, I'd have to pay more. Eh, I can wait
My EE SIM hasn't arrived yet. The phone has! So I put my giffgaff sim in
I am in Cheshire, about a mile from North Wales. working 4g! I can browse the internet juuuust fine.
Proof for you, taken from my Mi 9... poor thing, it will be missed, but wow!
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Also took a screenshot of the BBC World site on the Mi 10 Ultra itself to prove it's working!
I will report as I go along, but man, it feels good to be right I had to use 4G to download Swiftkey, haha, I couldn't even put my wifi password in because the Chinese keyboard was too difficult... but it's as good a test as any
And finally, took it off charge to go walk around the block (it charged nearly 20% in 5 minutes, haha)
Look familiar?
Congratulations! May I ask you what declared name and value was in your invoice when shipped with DHL?
ToneLa said:
My EE SIM hasn't arrived yet. The phone has! So I put my giffgaff sim in
I am in Cheshire, about a mile from North Wales. working 4g! I can browse the internet juuuust fine.
Proof for you, taken from my Mi 9... poor thing, it will be missed, but wow!
Also took a screenshot of the BBC World site on the Mi 10 Ultra itself to prove it's working!
I will report as I go along, but man, it feels good to be right I had to use 4G to download Swiftkey, haha, I couldn't even put my wifi password in because the Chinese keyboard was too difficult... but it's as good a test as any
And finally, took it off charge to go walk around the block (it charged nearly 20% in 5 minutes, haha)
Look familiar?
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Congratulations! May I ask you what declared name and value was in your invoice when shipped with DHL?
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Liaow wrote that it was the Mi 10 with the value at 179
I ended up paying tax but only 39
It didn't slow the delivery down. I got a call about the tax while the phone was out for delivery!
Once the phone left Hong Kong it was in the UK in one day. Could not be happier.
Anyway, if I get out this weekend I'll be sure to let you know of my 4g coverage.
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I have been talking about it... as I said to another UK poster, when it comes to 4g you have to do the homework
Mi 10 Ultra supported bands:
4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41
5G bands 1, 3, 41, 78, 79 SA/NSA
Here in the UK, band 20 is the rural, lower frequency band with the most coverage. So as you say, country trips might be difficult.
But it depends on your network also.
https://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/
EE have repurposed some old 3G frequencies for 4G. I'll let you know how that pans out
But yes, this is something everyone who imports phones should think about!
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I use O2, see my post about data throuput for all the detail but with no band 20, my 3g (H+) I'm getting about 13gb, better than I get on my heavily congested small seaside village 4g mast In the summer. I'm not complaining.
Any updates on the 4g coverage outside the city? What have your experience on the network been so far? Does it also affect calls and call signals?
ToneLa said:
Liaow wrote that it was the Mi 10 with the value at 179
I ended up paying tax but only 39
It didn't slow the delivery down. I got a call about the tax while the phone was out for delivery!
Once the phone left Hong Kong it was in the UK in one day. Could not be happier.
Anyway, if I get out this weekend I'll be sure to let you know of my 4g coverage.
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Calls have been fine. I was out yesterday and the 4G icon was gone. It did switch to H+ in non-city places.
However a bit like Sathelp said, even that is fast. Honestly if I wasn't looking for an icon I'd have not even noticed
It kept the signal on the train there & back, and it lost it in a tunnel as is expected and regained it immediately. I am very happily surprised, this was my road test and it was always there & fast when I needed it, even between swapping from random bars' wifi connections. Very happy but I did no speed or transfer rate analysis. Just far from the nightmare I thought it might be with "no band 20"
Well then, so let's assume people from UK will have no problems. I've checked coverage map from carriers in UK and they will have at least 3G outside city and almost everywhere. In my country Czech is 3G coverage very bad. So for anyone deciding to buy mi 10 ultra, just check map coverage of your carrier. 3G is fast enough for traveling.
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Calls have been fine. I was out yesterday and the 4G icon was gone. It did switch to H+ in non-city places.
However a bit like Sathelp said, even that is fast. Honestly if I wasn't looking for an icon I'd have not even noticed
It kept the signal on the train there & back, and it lost it in a tunnel as is expected and regained it immediately. I am very happily surprised, this was my road test and it was always there & fast when I needed it, even between swapping from random bars' wifi connections. Very happy but I did no speed or transfer rate analysis. Just far from the nightmare I thought it might be with "no band 20"
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@ToneLa mate, I'm so happy to have found a neighbor that is using the Ultra in UK!! I live in Cheshire too, and I was very concerned if the lack of band would affect much the experience here in UK, but now I'm much more confident. Would you mind to let me know how is being your experience with Google services? I use them a lot of course (Gmail, maps, Google pay, the basics like everyone) and I had a bad experience with the Redmi 8 that I bought for my wife, I needed to return the Chinese version because the google services didn't work well at all. I'm just freaking scary to spend all this money and it didn't work well. Thanks ''neighbour'' :good:
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@ToneLa mate, I'm so happy to have found a neighbor that is using the Ultra in UK!! I live in Cheshire too, and I was very concerned if the lack of band would affect much the experience here in UK, but now I'm much more confident. Would you mind to let me know how is being your experience with Google services? I use them a lot of course (Gmail, maps, Google pay, the basics like everyone) and I had a bad experience with the Redmi 8 that I bought for my wife, I needed to return the Chinese version because the google services didn't work well at all. I'm just freaking scary to spend all this money and it didn't work well. Thanks ''neighbour'' :good:
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Hello neighbour!
The Google services worked ok on stock. But some stuff is disabled like location history in maps, you can't see where you've been! Everything else seemed good, it's just MIUI is an opt in permissions setup. So if anything wasn't working I'd have to grant the app more permissions.
You REALLY need to get on the Xiaomi.eu rom, as this fixes anything else!
As for bands, I've got an EE SIM and a Giffgaff SIM in and it's night and day. I'm getting fast 4g with EE almost everywhere (had a little trouble driving through the countryside near Raby). Most places, the EE SIM had 4g... in Chester, in Thornton Hough, in Liverpool... Meanwhile, Giffgaff trundles along, it's acceptable but not 4g, often 3g, the speeds aren't too bad but there's more gaps in coverage.
EE coverage by us is great. But as I've said a few times they use the old 3g bands for 4g signals now. It really makes a difference!
You're on XDA so you should be able to make this phone everything you want. It's a bit awkward at first.. but it's already the best phone I've ever owned.
Good to have a neighbour here
Thanks @ToneLa, I'll follow yiur advice and use the rom you mentioned. Great to know it's working well, I'm very keen to get one and now with your opinions I'll do that. Enjoy your new toy, I'll do the same soon!! Cheers!!!
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Thanks @ToneLa, I'll follow yiur advice and use the rom you mentioned. Great to know it's working well, I'm very keen to get one and now with your opinions I'll do that. Enjoy your new toy, I'll do the same soon!! Cheers!!!
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If you haven't ordered yet use liaow.com because the guy there Mike is amazing and he declared the cost as less than 200... So when DHL got stung for customs it wasn't 20% of the real cost. It was a measly 40 quid!
Thanks mate, trust me, you will love the phone. Start the Xiaomi unlock process the day you get it though..
Will do, good to know you had a good experience with them, I was between them, Wonda mobile and TradingShenzhen, but I believe I'll follow your advice. I sent you a PM if you don't mind, and thanks for your feedback, it's reassuring to know the phone is working well with you!! Cheers!!