Okay, so...I've been looking at numerous slider phones, and the Photon Q is the one that's probably the closest to my ideal phone that I've yet seen. I currently have Cricket, but T-Mobile's Value Plans seem to be the best deal for my needs. I know that the Photon Q supports both CDMA and GSM, but can it be unlocked to actually work on T-Mobile's network? It seems T-Mobile requires the 1700 MHz band for their 3G service, but not for their (current) 4G. Would this phone work in 4G areas, at 4G speeds, then?
Also, if I understand correctly, using GSM on the Photon Q isn't as simple as just popping in a SIM card. Apparently, Motorola has opted for a hard-soldered SIM, so if you want to switch to a network that SIM card doesn't support, you have to do some soldering (or get someone else to do so). If this is the case, it's pretty close to a dealbraker for me, though I MIGHT still go for it, if I can definitely find someone who can get it to work with T-Mobile.
Well, you are correct about the hard-soldered SIM.
See this thread about what the hack entails.
Now, to my knowledge - this hack has only been done OUTSIDE of the US. I would think since you're physically putting your SIM in place of the Sprint-specific SIM, that it would work... but I don't think anyone has actually done it yet.
Just be cautious. You seem to have done your homework.
Cool...checking that thread now. If anyone knows if this is possible to do with T-Mobile USA, or if anyone actually HAS done this, PLEASE let me know! T-Mo does have a phone I'd settle for, if this can't be done, and I'd seriously consider it, since it'd be less risky. But if this can be done reliably and without issues, I'd slightly prefer going this route, even if mostly just for the bigger screen.
And for that matter...since I don't already have service with T-Mobile, and I'd be starting NEW service...is there something about the SIM that's soldered on, that makes it unusable for T-Mobile? Wouldn't there be some information I'd be able to get from the built-in SIM that I could tell them, in order to activate THAT SIM with their service?
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And for that matter...since I don't already have service with T-Mobile, and I'd be starting NEW service...is there something about the SIM that's soldered on, that makes it unusable for T-Mobile? Wouldn't there be some information I'd be able to get from the built-in SIM that I could tell them, in order to activate THAT SIM with their service?
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The build-in SIM is for international roaming....
You would have to put a TMobile SIM in. Make sense?
Yeah...just wasn't sure if it was preprogrammed, and unable to be re-programmed. Anyway, I'm leaning toward the phone that T-Mobile DOES carry, that's almost as good, just not QUITE as big a screen, and just SLIGHTLY lower resolution. But looks to be good enough. (Samsung Galaxy S Relay)
Few notes: On Droid 4 (which has normal microSIM card) other US carriers are SIM locked by the modem software (the rest of World works) - so some risk is there too. Additionally as far as I know, T-Mobile US has mostly 3G on 1700 MHz, while Photon Q supports 850 / 1900 / 2100 MHz - so you'll have trouble with 3G. Also LTE is on 1900 MHz which is emplyoed only by Sprint as I read, so no avail there either on T-Mobile. Additionally, it looks like Photon Q has no EDGE, so you'll enjoy nice 2.5G most of the time, unless you are in the 1900 MHz area for 3G.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Few notes: On Droid 4 (which has normal microSIM card) other US carriers are SIM locked by the modem software (the rest of World works) - so some risk is there too. Additionally as far as I know, T-Mobile US has mostly 3G on 1700 MHz, while Photon Q supports 850 / 1900 / 2100 MHz - so you'll have trouble with 3G. Also LTE is on 1900 MHz which is emplyoed only by Sprint as I read, so no avail there either on T-Mobile. Additionally, it looks like Photon Q has no EDGE, so you'll enjoy nice 2.5G most of the time, unless you are in the 1900 MHz area for 3G.
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Quite the dream crusher. This would have been the perfect phone for me if I were able to just flash it over to T Mobile for service in the US. Humph, guess I'll finally have to go for a fully touch phone (yuck) or just keep the current lame thing I have (Galaxy Indulge on MetroPCS :l ) until I find something remotely better.
Why not try a droid 4,i know there is a way to get that working on gsm carriers.
Im currently using a droid 3 that works on gsm carriers and its pretty good.im running it on att and the only comparable slider on att is the captivate glide.
i would love to be able to use a photon q on att but there does not seem to be an easy way to do it...
Droid 4 has simcard slot for GSM and with some mods,I can use RUIM CDMA. It also has HSDPA and Evdo revB support. Really an all in one phone. but,I heard the GSM won't work on USA. I'm ordering a Photon Q. I hope it's better than my D4. I know I have to mod the hardware to use slot simcard. So,I might pass it and using CDMA only via flashing my own carrier.
I tried a friend's droid 4 a while back and remember not liking it. Thinking now though I may be confusing my experience with another device.
From my understanding I thought you could softmod the phone to GSM but I guess I've been reading wrong the entire time. Don't want to plop down money and say screw it and buy the phone only to get it and put it all the effort to have it not work, then have to boggle through the return process.
sad face.
edit: really wish I could remember my old account... I feel like such a n00b with a lame join date
It looks like that even if there was a SW SIM lock, it's bypassable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
But the problem with the bands still prevails.
AW: [Q] Considering Photon Q...for T-mobile?
I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
If it would be possible to use the Q without soldering in Germany with a german provider i would have changed my contract to this provider. The Q is definetly worth the trouble.
I've had to make the sim mod done by cornolio (Thanks again man for this awsom work!) And now hav one of the best phones in my oppinion here in germany working.
The only disadvantage I can life with is the unusable LTE because of the lack of frequencies in Germany.
Just my 2 cents
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I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
If it would be possible to use the Q without soldering in Germany with a german provider i would have changed my contract to this provider. The Q is definetly worth the trouble.
I've had to make the sim mod done by cornolio (Thanks again man for this awsom work!) And now hav one of the best phones in my oppinion here in germany working.
The only disadvantage I can life with is the unusable LTE because of the lack of frequencies in Germany.
Just my 2 cents
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I'm considering this option due to AT&T pricing and availability of my current unlimited data plan.
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I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
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That depends on the area. With the whole network vision upgrade in the chicago area and their new endeavor to absorb all of the US cellular customers in the chicago area, it has been a challenge to remain loyal to sprint. Most annoying thing is answering the phone and having the person on the other end not be able to hear you. This has been going on with every 3rd or 4th call i get for two months. I stick with sprint because i have always had good results with their customer service and i use alot of data. No one else offers really unlimited data in this area.
UGHHH!!!
I want this device usable on T-Mobile SOOOOOO BAD!!!
kecksk0enig said:
I can't understand why one in US whould go through all that trouble with soldering new sim and frequenzy problems, instead of using the Q with Sprint? Is Sprint network so bad @ US?
If it would be possible to use the Q without soldering in Germany with a german provider i would have changed my contract to this provider. The Q is definetly worth the trouble.
I've had to make the sim mod done by cornolio (Thanks again man for this awsom work!) And now hav one of the best phones in my oppinion here in germany working.
The only disadvantage I can life with is the unusable LTE because of the lack of frequencies in Germany.
Just my 2 cents
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Pricing is a big deal sprint is better than Verizon but thats not saying much. Tmo recently went to an everything unlimited for a flat rate pricing plan and before that there is a smaller lesser known company called simple mobile that basicly sells you tmo service for a flat rate like tmo does now but its less a month. If I could put my simple mobile sim in the photon Q I would be getting unlimited miniutes txt and data at 40 for 3g or 50 for 4g with sprint the cheapest plan with only 450 miniutes is 80 by comparison.
The photon Q does support hsdpa at 1900mhz which, too my knowledge, tmobile just got set up on the national scale. Could be wrong though
I would absolutely love a souped up Photon Q for T-Mobile, not some ratty looking Spec'd up ugly slider.
So for any unlikely Moto Design Employees reading this thread (chances - slim to none) haha, the device of my dreams...
Motorola Photon Q Styled...
- 4.5" 1080p Corning Gorilla Glass 3 Protected Display
- Military 810G Water/Dust Proof Device
- 2,500mAh Lithium-Ion Battery
- Native T-Mobile 4G LTE, HSPA, HSPA+, 3G & Edge Capable Device
- 1.8ghz Quad-Core Processor w/ 3GB of RAM
- 10+MP HD/1080P Camera-Camcorder
- WiFi
- Bluetooth 4.0+ w/ Backwards Compatability
- NFC
- IR Blastster
- Unlock(ed/able) Bootloader
- Android 4.3
- Dual Noise Cancelling Microphones
- MHL Support
- Scratch-proof Bezel
- Carbon Fiber Enforced...
(Something that would blow the S4 & HTC ONE to Shreds!)
I can sure dream though, right? Tell me something, am I the only one feeling this way???
I have the S3, and I bought it for the internals not the look. This device would be awesome, anyone agree?
Well, the Motorola Droid 5 possibly for Verizon has leaked. In recent, those new Verizon Moto LTE Devices have been able to run on AT&T and T-Mobile's HSPA Networks. Not 4GLTE, but I'll take it. Now for those who aren't up to speed, don't mock me, yes Verizon uses CDMA, but they use GSM for LTE, hence the sim card slots on their devices.
It's supposed to be rugged and have built in Qi-Charging!!!!
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hi guys
i bought a nexus s but the order was canceled and now i have to wait a couple of weeks for a refund
and then this showed up
gizmodo(DOT)com/5750750/leak-htc-pyramid-sounds-like-a-big-un-with-dual+core-processor-and-43+inch-qhd-display
now when i wanted to buy a phone the most important thing to me is " future proof" in terms of updates from google , Cyanogenmod etc
since this thing " might " be a dual core it will be supported for a very long time in terms of keeping up with new OSes
anyway im sure this phone will be CDMA so how long does a HTC phone take until they make one in a GSM flavor ?
The device is on TMobile, so it will be GSM, AFAIK.
As for support.. It is HTC, so it will be supported on XDA-dev, I have no doubt in my mind And I don't think HTC will go the Moto-way of getting in the way of rooting and such.
I hope the bands are compatible with Rogers Canada!!
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The device is on TMobile, so it will be GSM, AFAIK.
As for support.. It is HTC, so it will be supported on XDA-dev, I have no doubt in my mind And I don't think HTC will go the Moto-way of getting in the way of rooting and such.
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a perfect reply with all the info i need
1.will be GSM
2.can be rooted etc
3.will be supported from various groups etc
thanks a bunch
The sourced article has all the juicy details:
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/unc...pyramid-superphone-coming-to-t-mobile-by-may/
I'm all set to get this, assuming it has MicroSD. (Or better .) I'm a little disappointed that the HSPA+ is limited to 14 Mbps downloads. I hope the T-Mobile USA version can at minimum take full advantage of their 21Mbps download HSPA+. Even better if it can handle future speeds like 41Mbps too .
It has enough features to be a nice upgrade from my HD2. We'll see if the Pyramid turns out to be as flexible. I may wait a month or more after it's release, to see if it can be easily rooted and custom ROMs made for it. If HTC makes it too hard to hack, I may pass. (It's got to at least be hackable for custom Android ROMs.)
The Androidandme article mentions the Pyramid will probably get to other carriers in time. Good to see that maybe a US carrier will get a sweet new HTC phone first for a change . We had to wait months for the HD2 while folks elsewhere enjoyed it first .
Pyramid = Winner!
im sure it will be eisely hackable
correct me if im wrong but HTC never made it hard for us
unlike moto
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im sure it will be eisely hackable
correct me if im wrong but HTC never made it hard for us
unlike moto
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I agree
I have moto and HTC and i promess you there's no comparison!!
,
SENT FROM MY MILESTONE POWERED BY GINGERBREAD
its been a while since i read about moto but didnt they have eFUSE on the mileston how did u put gingerbread on it ?
Listen this is incredible!!!!
This is the first release of ginger just ported by cynamo people nadalback/kadalban and many more people from this amazing forum
So.... whow is it possible if we didn' t get real froyo yet and we already are using ginger!!!! O.O
THIS MATES ARE JUST AMAZING!!!!!
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Listen this is incredible!!!!
This is the first release of ginger just ported by cynamo people nadalback/kadalban and many more people from this amazing forum
So.... whow is it possible if we didn' t get real froyo yet and we already are using ginger!!!! O.O
THIS MATES ARE JUST AMAZING!!!!!
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Guys,
How's T-mobile with throttling? What are their caps? Im thinking of leaving Sprint if they don't release something worth getting soon.
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Guys,
How's T-mobile with throttling? What are their caps? Im thinking of leaving Sprint if they don't release something worth getting soon.
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from what i read
T-MOBILE
you get 3G speeds
and after you reach 5GB they stated
"No overages! (After 5 GB, data speeds may be reduced)"
how much its reduced you have to check your self
and one more thing you can share your internet to devices around you
This would make me think about leaving sprint for this.
killabee44 said:
Guys,
How's T-mobile with throttling? What are their caps? Im thinking of leaving Sprint if they don't release something worth getting soon.
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from what i read
T-MOBILE
you get 3G speeds
and after you reach 5GB they stated
"No overages! (After 5 GB, data speeds may be reduced)"
how much its reduced you have to check your self
and one more thing you can share your internet to devices around you
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I am with T-Mobile USA now and left Sprint back in March of 2010 for the T-Mobile HTC HD2.
The data works like this, you get up to 5GB/month, just like Sprint. But once you reach the limit, T-Mobile "throttles" your speed rather than totally turning it off as Sprint does. The throttling is not something I've ever experienced, but I've heard it's so slow that it makes the data practically useless till the month is over and they reset your allowance of data automatically that next month. I've also heard, that people who were throttled were able to go to a different town and get fast data speeds again within the same month. So the throttling might be location based for a certain cell tower or something.
Also, T-Mobile does not "support" tethering unless you pay a special tethering fee, which is $15/month. That means, you get no support from T-Mobile in trying to do it unless you pay, but there are plenty of people who don't pay the fee and successfully tether. If you're going to tether without paying that fee, you'd want to be very light on your usage, so you don't get busted. Similar to with Sprint.
Qwerty warrior, the plan you linked to is not the cell phone data plan, that's the plan for laptop USB sticks. The "contract" cell phone plans are listed here. T-Mobile does have non-contract cell phone plans, that are cheaper than the contract plans, but they don't display anything about those on the web site, you'd have to actually speak with a T-Mobile rep about those. T-Mobile tries hard to avoid anyone buying the non-contract plans, but they do exists.
And in T-Mobile 3G, you can do simultaneous voice + data, which on Sprint you can only do in "4G". With T-Mobile, you can do it on both 3G and "4G".
I also recall with Sprint there was an issue with conferencing multiple callers via a device, I don't know if that's still an issue with Sprint, but I know it's not an issue at all with T-Mobile.
And one debated issue, that I know is a fact. GSM devices don't burn through battery as quickly as CDMA devices. You'll get better bettery life on T-Mobile than the same device on Sprint's network. (Of course you can't use the exact '"same" device on both networks, but I'm saying the same model of device.)
oops wrong forum
They admit their data could be flawed, but phoneArena.com has tossed up a full spec sheet .
qwerty warrior said:
from what i read
T-MOBILE
you get 3G speeds
and after you reach 5GB they stated
"No overages! (After 5 GB, data speeds may be reduced)"
how much its reduced you have to check your self
and one more thing you can share your internet to devices around you
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
I am with T-Mobile USA now and left Sprint back in March of 2010 for the T-Mobile HTC HD2.
The data works like this, you get up to 5GB/month, just like Sprint. But once you reach the limit, T-Mobile "throttles" your speed rather than totally turning it off as Sprint does. The throttling is not something I've ever experienced, but I've heard it's so slow that it makes the data practically useless till the month is over and they reset your allowance of data automatically that next month. I've also heard, that people who were throttled were able to go to a different town and get fast data speeds again within the same month. So the throttling might be location based for a certain cell tower or something.
Also, T-Mobile does not "support" tethering unless you pay a special tethering fee, which is $15/month. That means, you get no support from T-Mobile in trying to do it unless you pay, but there are plenty of people who don't pay the fee and successfully tether. If you're going to tether without paying that fee, you'd want to be very light on your usage, so you don't get busted. Similar to with Sprint.
Qwerty warrior, the plan you linked to is not the cell phone data plan, that's the plan for laptop USB sticks. The "contract" cell phone plans are listed here. T-Mobile does have non-contract cell phone plans, that are cheaper than the contract plans, but they don't display anything about those on the web site, you'd have to actually speak with a T-Mobile rep about those. T-Mobile tries hard to avoid anyone buying the non-contract plans, but they do exists.
And in T-Mobile 3G, you can do simultaneous voice + data, which on Sprint you can only do in "4G". With T-Mobile, you can do it on both 3G and "4G".
I also recall with Sprint there was an issue with conferencing multiple callers via a device, I don't know if that's still an issue with Sprint, but I know it's not an issue at all with T-Mobile.
And one debated issue, that I know is a fact. GSM devices don't burn through battery as quickly as CDMA devices. You'll get better bettery life on T-Mobile than the same device on Sprint's network. (Of course you can't use the exact '"same" device on both networks, but I'm saying the same model of device.)
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Thanks for the info guys,
So, after researching I see that they throttle anyone going over 5gb a month. Sprint may advertise a cap, but they never enforce it. I have gone over many times but have never received a letter.
Tmobile is definitely stricter than Sprint with their data..
Let's see what Sprint releases in the near future. Im up for an upgrade and my contract is completely up in October. Ill pay the penalty if I have to since it's pro-rated at ten dollars a month. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
I want it.
killabee44 said:
Thanks for the info guys,
So, after researching I see that they throttle anyone going over 5gb a month. Sprint may advertise a cap, but they never enforce it. I have gone over many times but have never received a letter.
Tmobile is definitely stricter than Sprint with their data..
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Oh, Sprint does enforce theirs. They may not have gotten you (yet), but there are plenty of people, even a personal friend of mine who were busted by Sprint. Had their data shut down, got a letter and didn't get it back till later.
And with T-Mobile, there are likewise people who claim they didn't get busted yet.
Bottom line is, they all enforce and just because they didn't catch you yet don't assume they never will.
The Pyramid will be my next device is the rumored specs are true.
Went into T-Mobile yesterday and purchased a Sensation off contract. Got home and went online to get it unlocked.
Currently the phone is on AT&T and I can report that 3G / 4G service does NOT work. I know there was some talk about the phone maybe picking up the 1900 3G band - but I can confirm that is does not. It only works on the 2G / Edge network.
MMS / SMS work fine.
One MAJOR draw back to having this phone on AT&T is you cannot be talking on the phone and use data at the same time. This caught me by surprise when I was using the Google Navigation app and got a phone call. The map stopped updating until I got off the phone. I double checked trying to open a website while on the phone and it gives you an error message saying it needs a connection.
If anyone does plan to do this - know that you also have to manually put in the AT&T APN settings for internet and messaging to work. Just typing in the unlock code will allow you to place calls, but no other services work.
Another annoying part is there is a T-Mobile app that updates all your contacts with their servers. This is constantly trying to update throughout the day. The program isn't able to be un-installed at this point either.
I called AT&T to give them the IMEI number. They (obviously) don't recognize the phone and register it as a non-smart phone. At first when she said that, and also told me my unlimited data package would go from $30 to $15 I was happy. As soon as I got off the phone with her and reset the phone, the internet wouldn't come back up. Had to go in to an AT&T store to get it all fixed. They had to put the IMEI of my old Inspire 4G back on the account to get everything working again. So - don't call AT&T with the IMEI =)
So - would I do all this again and spend $600 bucks. No way - its not worth it. The phone itself is nice, but I feel like I just got tossed back in time about 15 years with this incredibly slow internet and not being able to "talk & surf" at the same time. I've put the phone for sale online
Take it for what its worth
Having only Edge connection speeds just kills the entire experience on any phone regardless of how hardware/software advanced it is. Don't you guys have the Inspire? With all due respect, why would you think the Sensation would even work to it's full potential on an entirely different 3G network? Just wondering why you would set yourself up for such an expensive let down? Again no disrespect, just wondering.
It's still within 14 days . Just return it and get your loot back dude. Thanks for experimenting and posting your results for the community. You've done your part please go return it!
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There was talk that even though the phone didn't have the 850 band - it may still work on the 1900 band. No one knew for certain (at least in the posts I have read). I read online about other makes of phones that were able to get 3G on just the 1900 band - but the Sensation doesn't seem to.
It's not a huge let down - and the money isn't wasted. I have 14 days to return it, granted with a $50 fee. So it was worth (to me) a $50 experiment to perhaps get a better phone than the Inspire - not to mention its quite a bit smaller which is a huge bonus for me!
Wy did you ever do this? The sensation with at&t 3g will be released on July 5th thru Bell in Canada and already many major import sites are taking pre-orders. It's also confirmed that the bell version will be bloat free and have pure HTC ROM on it.
It's just money man! With a return policy and able to pick it up 2 blocks from my house it was worth the gamble! If it worked on the 1900 band, I was golden. If it didn't, I'd return it or sell it on craigslist.
I imagine the Bell version is going to sell for ~$150-200 higher online because it has the 850 band - supply and demand on that phone will be quite high as compared to the T-Mobile version. I'll most def. keep my eye out. Do you have the name of the website that is doing pre-orders on the Bell Canada version? Not finding anything online.
alejate76 said:
It's just money man! With a return policy and able to pick it up 2 blocks from my house it was worth the gamble! If it worked on the 1900 band, I was golden. If it didn't, I'd return it or sell it on craigslist.
I imagine the Bell version is going to sell for ~$150-200 higher online because it has the 850 band - supply and demand on that phone will be quite high as compared to the T-Mobile version. I'll most def. keep my eye out. Do you have the name of the website that is doing pre-orders on the Bell Canada version? Not finding anything online.
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I hear ya... Worth it to try if you can get a full refund. This is the site I pre-ordered from. The price is high but will be worth it. AT&T service is WAY better in my area. I only get edge on T-Mobile @ my house or I would consider jumping ship.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_SENSATION_NAM
You could have gotten an SGS2 for about $150 more and had 4G speeds (21MB) on AT&T and used the same dumb-phone data plan. There's a guy with an SGS2 on T-Mobile U.S. in the SGS2 forum getting EDGE too. What's the point of a high-end phone that's dependent on data on a low-end network?
WOW!! $899.99 for the phone. That is A LOT man!! I could keep the Sensation I have and use it on 2G only - and have 450 bucks in my pocket. I have an Inspire sitting here next to the Sensation. Inspire is on "4G" and the Sensation on "2G". In real life tests - it takes about 1.5 seconds longer to open a website such as CNN.
The more I use the Sensation - the more I like it. Its quick - the screen is fantastic - and I'm learning to enjoy having 2G because my battery is lasting quite a bit longer than the power hogging 4G service.
This may not be a bad thing after all....
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I hear ya... Worth it to try if you can get a full refund. This is the site I pre-ordered from. The price is high but will be worth it. AT&T service is WAY better in my area. I only get edge on T-Mobile @ my house or I would consider jumping ship.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_SENSATION_NAM
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Correct me if I am wrong - but isn't the GSM bands the exact same on both phones? The only difference is the UMTS spectrum which is for 3G / 4G data. I was under the impression that the voice services of the phone (ie: making phone calls) is always done via GSM.
Edge at your house via T-mobile - don't you have a wireless router the phone would connect to anyway?
(I'm starting to feel like a sales person for the T-Mobile version now - this is scary)
You do realize that it may still work on the 1900 band, but your area is in 850 towers right?
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You do realize that it may still work on the 1900 band, but your area is in 850 towers right?
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Thats what I was thinking. ATT uses 850 for 3G in my area.
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I'll def. be on the lookout for the 1900 band to see about 3g connectivity. I live in Phoenix, AZ.
Ended up getting rid of the phone and waiting for the Canadian version with 850/1900
Too much money to spend on the phone with such limited capabilities. Could never get it to connect to 1900 MHz 3G from anywhere in Phoenix all the way to Tucson.
Wow is it really worth it to cough up 900 for a sensation? That is alot. I always looked to import a NAM version of smartphone to utilize my media net plan. I will have to just wait it out for a Nexus 3 maybe. I love tech but paying 900 for a phone is little out there for me.
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good very good
Can anyone tell me the apn settings for att mms? I updated with what I found in Google, but mms still doesn't woek.
I, for one, really appreciate taking one for the team. I was also curious as if it would work on AT&T's 1900 MHz band. We already know the 850 MHz wasn't listed.
Just an FYI, the only phone that works on 1900 MHz (as well as AWS) is the Vibrant (I have it now). If you're wondering if your area has 1900MHz coverage by AT&T, you can always use the Vibrant as your benchmark. I keep a Vibrant around just for this reason. I love having a phone that works with both AT&T and T-mobile 3G.
For those criticizing why not wait for an AT&T version: because some of us are interested in phones that can work on both GSM carriers here in the US.
Vibrant is confirmed, not sure about Galaxy S 4G (or really a Vibrant 4G). Of course there's the Nokia N8, but it's not an Android phone.
Some of us were excited to see if the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G will join the ranks.
Just so you know, the restocking fee does not apply to cancellations, only phone swaps, unless its defective, then its fee also.
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So can anyone help with mms setup on att?
Can anyone that owns either of the Verizon branded phones try the following steps to see if they can get AT&T working? These were taken from the original Droid RAZR forums:
All Verizon ics roms are lock but there a way around that. First be rooted
Then got to build. Plist and change the ro. Telephony default to 7. 7means global phone.
Then go to *#*#4636#*#* and change the radio to wcdma preferred.
That should give u Gsm in tmobile
I would really like to have a Droid RAZR maxx on at&t. I would be willing to give up lte connectivity to have it.
seh6183 said:
Can anyone that owns either of the Verizon branded phones try the following steps to see if they can get AT&T working? These were taken from the original Droid RAZR forums:
All Verizon ics roms are lock but there a way around that. First be rooted
Then got to build. Plist and change the ro. Telephony default to 7. 7means global phone.
Then go to *#*#4636#*#* and change the radio to wcdma preferred.
That should give u Gsm in tmobile
I would really like to have a Droid RAZR maxx on at&t. I would be willing to give up lte connectivity to have it.
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Got one today and just got it rooted. Can you point me to the forum these were taken out of?
Razar HD
thinking of getting it, r u happy with the phone ??
sprke said:
Got one today and just got it rooted. Can you point me to the forum these were taken out of?
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I can't remember where I snagged it. If you just use root explorer you can go through the file system and make those changes. Then pop in a T-Mobile, or att sim and see what you come up with. You may have to let it sit a while before it grabs service.
The other gsm thread says that it may be blocked on the radio firmware. How awesome would it be if a build.prop hack could fix it. I want the maxx so badly, but won't give up my s3 until someone can confirm it working for at&t/tmobile
No good.
Changed build.prop as advised:
Code:
# BEGIN Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
# GSM SMS traffic needs to be routed/sent through North America SMSC.
# This is part of the VZW World-phone Feature. SMS are always sent to a US SMSC and then injected
# into that network. This allows for billing and give the user the impression that the device is
# still in the US.
ro.telephony.gsm-routes-us-smsc = 1
# END Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
ro.mot.ril.danlist=611,*611,#611
[B]ro.telephony.default_network=7[/B]
Inserted active AT&T MicroSIM with iPhone unlimited data plan.
Changed Preferred Network Type in Phone info to WCDMA preferred. Let the phone sit for ten minutes.
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Now I have an angry RAZR MAXX HD, scanning for service continuously. Phone status shows no network type, signal, nada. Angry phone is angry. Rolled back changes.
Good try, but we are not living in the OG Droid era anymore.
TRF-Inferno said:
No good.
Changed build.prop as advised:
Code:
# BEGIN Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
# GSM SMS traffic needs to be sent through North America SMSC.
# This is part of the VZW World-phone Feature. SMS are always sent to a US SMSC and then injected
# into that network. This allows for billing and give the user the impression that the device is
# still in the US.
ro.telephony.gsm-routes-us-smsc = 1
# END Motorola, qmfd78, 14-Jul-2010, IKMAIN-884
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=1
ro.mot.ril.danlist=611,*611,#611
[B]ro.telephony.default_network=7[/B]
Inserted active AT&T MicroSIM with iPhone unlimited data plan.
Changed Preferred Network Type in Phone info to WCDMA preferred. Let the phone sit for ten minutes.
Now I have an angry RAZR MAXX HD, scanning for service continuously. Phone status shows no network type, signal, nada. Angry phone is angry. Rolled back changes.
Good try, but we are not living in the OG Droid era anymore.
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We all definitely appreciate the effort though. I may buy one and use it on wifi only until I can figure a hack out. The radios are there, just blocked somehow from North American carriers.
seh6183 said:
We all definitely appreciate the effort though. I may buy one and use it on wifi only until I can figure a hack out. The radios are there, just blocked somehow from North American carriers.
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If you were going to buy one, why not go the XT925 from Rogers? It is fully compatible with AT&T's network; the Verizon version as-is can't even get voice connectivity.
Regardless, I will give it another shot, at least not trying to do this at work will give me time to tinker with it more extensively.
TRF-Inferno said:
If you were going to buy one, why not go the XT925 from Rogers? It is fully compatible with AT&T's network; the Verizon version as-is can't even get voice connectivity.
Regardless, I will give it another shot, at least not trying to do this at work will give me time to tinker with it more extensively.
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Please tell me Rogers has the same LTE bands
seh6183 said:
Please tell me Rogers has the same LTE bands
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The two carriers have the same 3G bands but different LTE band, but the Rogers' RAZR supports both carrier's LTE bands. Something to keep in mind, if you are looking for an international phone for that supports AT&T's 3G/LTE bands, look for a phone that has UMTS 850/1900 for 3G and Band 17 700 MHz LTE.
Be careful not mix Verizon's and AT&T's LTE bands up, because they're both theoretically 700 MHz spectrum, but Verizon's is actually Band 13 while AT&T's is Band 17.
TRFnferno said:
The two have the same 3G bands but different LTE band, but the Rogers' RAZR supports both carrier's LTE bands. Something to keep in mind, if you are looking for an international phone for that supports AT&T's 3G/LTE bands, look for a phone that has UMTS 850/1900 for 3G and Band 17 700 MHz LTE.
Be careful not mix Verizon's and AT&T's LTE bands up, because they're both theoretically 700 MHz spectrum, but Verizon's is actually Band 13 while AT&T's is Band 17.
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Well this is amazing news. Now please tell me Rogers will be getting the Maxx!
seh6183 said:
Well this is amazing news. Now please tell me Rogers will be getting the Maxx!
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From what I've heard so far, there are no plans for Rogers to carry the MAXX.
rajeshr said:
From what I've heard so far, there are no plans for Rogers to carry the MAXX.
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Never can have it all, it seems How might I even go about getting my hands on a Rogers RAZR? Look on Craigslist in Canada or something?
seh6183 said:
Never can have it all, it seems How might I even go about getting my hands on a Rogers RAZR? Look on Craigslist in Canada or something?
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+1... I've been looking all over.
Keep looking on www.expansys-usa.com it'll eventually get on there
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big ach said:
Keep looking on www.expansys-usa.com it'll eventually get on there
Sent from my Motorola Droid Xyboard 10.1 with Verizon 4G LTE
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As much as I'm dying to have this phone, I would never pay 799 plus tax to have it. Even the original Droid RAZR maxx is still 739 on there. I'll just check Craigslist in Canada and get someone to ship it.
seh6183 said:
Never can have it all, it seems How might I even go about getting my hands on a Rogers RAZR? Look on Craigslist in Canada or something?
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Find someone in Canada willing to buy and ship it to you. It is an expensive proposition though as it will cost you about $700 by the time it reaches your door!
rajeshr said:
Find someone in Canada willing to buy and ship it to you. It is an expensive proposition though as it will cost you about $700 by the time it reaches your door!
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Yea ill wait for a used one to go on craigs in Canada.
seh6183 said:
Yea ill wait for a used one to go on craigs in Canada.
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I found one in Canada for like 450 but he refuses to ship it, local sale only.
Youngunn2008 said:
I found one in Canada for like 450 but he refuses to ship it, local sale only.
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I'm gonna keep my eyes peeled.
Anyone here using the tmobile $30 dollar prepaid plan and have issue getting LTE? I got my phone a bit over a week ago and love it but there is the issue of no lte. Somehow I can only get up to hspa+ on ym oneplus and this is the newest respond from tforce.
Thanks for checking back, our engineers said at this time it is not a feature we can push to a prepaid account and in order to achieve LTE on that device you would need to change to a no credit check account.
Any advise?
xellos2099 said:
Anyone here using the tmobile $30 dollar prepaid plan and have issue getting LTE? I got my phone a bit over a week ago and love it but there is the issue of no lte. Somehow I can only get up to hspa+ on ym oneplus and this is the newest respond from tforce.
Thanks for checking back, our engineers said at this time it is not a feature we can push to a prepaid account and in order to achieve LTE on that device you would need to change to a no credit check account.
Any advise?
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The only thing I know that will work is if you have another LTE phone. Is to activate it on that sim by giving them the IMEI number from that phone. Then put the sim back in your One Plus and make sure you have the right APN and you should be good to go.
If not your extra phone maybe a friends LTE phones IMEI number.
Good luck..
Few questions,
1. Are you on the right APN? fast.t-mobile.com on IPv6?
2. How old is your SIM card? Was the SIM card used in another device that is LTE enabled?
3. What OnePlus One do you have? International or Chinese version? (International has Cyanogen logo in the back)
4. Just FYI... "4G" on the OPO is LTE.
5. I believe I've known others who are using the $30 plan who are on LTE. I believe that the T Force member provided you with false information and wanted you to pay more. @jarjar124 is on the $30 plan so maybe he can provide some insight? I'm pretty sure $30 plan can get LTE. And I don't believe you need to provide them with your IMEI to be LTE provisioned. Thats what AT&T does, not T-Mobile.
If your phone is the Chinese version, then I don't think it can get LTE bands as T-mobile uses bands LTE 4/2
zephiK said:
Few questions,
1. Are you on the right APN? fast.t-mobile.com on IPv6?
2. How old is your SIM card? Was the SIM card used in another device that is LTE enabled?
3. What OnePlus One do you have? International or Chinese version? (International has Cyanogen logo in the back)
4. Just FYI... "4G" on the OPO is LTE.
5. I believe I've known others who are using the $30 plan who are on LTE. I believe that the T Force member provided you with false information and wanted you to pay more. @jarjar124 is on the $30 plan so maybe he can provide some insight? I'm pretty sure $30 plan can get LTE. And I don't believe you need to provide them with your IMEI to be LTE provisioned. Thats what AT&T does, not T-Mobile.
If your phone is the Chinese version, then I don't think it can get LTE bands as T-mobile uses bands LTE 4/2
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They played that game with the nexus 4 but it wasn't LTE but as you know with the modem hack most of use used it. But I had to give them my S3 IMEI. Then all was good. So maybe he is a new customer like I was at the time and they don't show the One as an LTE phone on there network as of yet.
But Yeah @jarjar124 is a great guy and he may be able to give more in site to this.
For me it says 4G, but I'm on LTE speeds. You can check using the speedtest app. Just don't do it quite often because it uses data like crazy lol. It worked out of the box for me. No needed to change APN or anything.
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Vortex1969 said:
They played that game with the nexus 4 but it wasn't LTE but as you know with the modem hack most of use used it. But I had to give them my S3 IMEI. Then all was good. So maybe he is a new customer like I was at the time and they don't show the One as an LTE phone on there network as of yet.
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Yup.. used the Hybrid Radios to activate LTE. The last T-Mobile on contract phone I got from T-Mobile was the Galaxy S1 and didn't have any problems. The main thing I needed to do was to update my SIM card because it was a very old one that wasn't able to get LTE signals.
If the OP did get the Chinese version then I'm sure that he won't be able to get LTE I believe. I could be wrong though. I'll have to look this up but I think the highest signal they can get on TMo is HSPA
Edit: Yup I was right. https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/untitled_1-jpeg.27662/
Chinese OPO LTE FDD: 1800/2100/2600MHz
TD-LTE....... (only used in China)
If you search on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
T-Mobile supports LTE Band 12 (limited markets, 700), 4(1700d,e,f), 2(1900)
So it is possible OP has the Chinese OPO which causes a conflict.
For me it says 4G, but I'm on LTE speeds. You can check using the speedtest app. Just don't do it quite often because it uses data like crazy lol. It worked out of the box for me. No needed to change APN or anything.
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Same here, it worked out of the box. Speedtest doesn't count towards your data now
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...data-no-longer-counts-against-data-allowances
zephiK said:
Yup.. used the Hybrid Radios to activate LTE. The last T-Mobile on contract phone I got from T-Mobile was the Galaxy S1 and didn't have any problems. The main thing I needed to do was to update my SIM card because it was a very old one that wasn't able to get LTE signals.
If the OP did get the Chinese version then I'm sure that he won't be able to get LTE I believe. I could be wrong though. I'll have to look this up but I think the highest signal they can get on TMo is HSPA
Edit: Yup I was right. https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/untitled_1-jpeg.27662/
Chinese OPO LTE FDD: 1800/2100/2600MHz
TD-LTE....... (only used in China)
If you search on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
T-Mobile supports LTE Band 12 (limited markets, 700), 4(1700d,e,f), 2(1900)
So it is possible OP has the Chinese OPO which causes a conflict.
Same here, it worked out of the box. Speedtest doesn't count towards your data now
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...data-no-longer-counts-against-data-allowances
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Really? Or is that just for simple choice plans? The prepaids don't have any of the advantages of the simple choice (free international texts/data, music streaming not counting etc). On my nexus 5, LTE worked out of the box too. Just needed the right APN.
zephiK said:
Yup.. used the Hybrid Radios to activate LTE. The last T-Mobile on contract phone I got from T-Mobile was the Galaxy S1 and didn't have any problems. The main thing I needed to do was to update my SIM card because it was a very old one that wasn't able to get LTE signals.
If the OP did get the Chinese version then I'm sure that he won't be able to get LTE I believe. I could be wrong though. I'll have to look this up but I think the highest signal they can get on TMo is HSPA
Edit: Yup I was right. https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/untitled_1-jpeg.27662/
Chinese OPO LTE FDD: 1800/2100/2600MHz
TD-LTE....... (only used in China)
If you search on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
T-Mobile supports LTE Band 12 (limited markets, 700), 4(1700d,e,f), 2(1900)
So it is possible OP has the Chinese OPO which causes a conflict.
Same here, it worked out of the box. Speedtest doesn't count towards your data now
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mob...data-no-longer-counts-against-data-allowances
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I am on the right apn
New sim card
I got the international one direct from oneplus invite XD
I put in my friend's sim card and it got 4g, my card show hspa+
xellos2099 said:
I am on the right apn
New sim card
I got the international one direct from oneplus invite XD
I put in my friend's sim card and it got 4g, my card show hspa+
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It can also be the sim. Some sims can affect the cellular reception which can lead to your phone not reading LTE. How long did u leave your sim in? It can take time for it to switch from hspa to LTE. Where I live, it switches from hspa to LTE and vice versa constantly due to the buildings and coverage. I'm not a big person on cellular reception etc so someone please correct me if I'm wrong lol.
jarjar124 said:
Really? Or is that just for simple choice plans? The prepaids don't have any of the advantages of the simple choice (free international texts/data, music streaming not counting etc). On my nexus 5, LTE worked out of the box too. Just needed the right APN.
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Good question, I have no idea. I'll have to go and take a look. Just applying common sense, I think it'd be everybody regardless of their plans since when you do a speedtest you do submit information to speedtest servers so it would only help t mobile to have the best results.
I am on the right apn
New sim card
I got the international one direct from oneplus invite XD
I put in my friend's sim card and it got 4g, my card show hspa+
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Can you show us your APN just so we can double check?
Where did you get your SIM card? From T-Mobile directly? Some sellers sell SIM cards but they don't have LTE support. Try putting your SIM card into your friend's phone and see if you get LTE on his phone.
zephiK said:
Good question, I have no idea. I'll have to go and take a look. Just applying common sense, I think it'd be everybody regardless of their plans since when you do a speedtest you do submit information to speedtest servers so it would only help t mobile to have the best results.
Can you show us your APN just so we can double check?
Where did you get your SIM card? From T-Mobile directly? Some sellers sell SIM cards but they don't have LTE support. Try putting your SIM card into your friend's phone and see if you get LTE on his phone.
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I'll check and let you guys know on the speed test.
Edit: It seems like it still uses, but it uses very little compared to before. Or its just using data for me to check how much I used lol
jarjar124 said:
I'll check and let you guys know on the speed test.
Edit: It seems like it still uses, but it uses very little compared to before. Or its just using data for me to check how much I used lol
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Maybe the second one lol. The only way to really know is, well... surpass your 5GB monthly data allowance and then be throttled down then run a speedtest. See if the results return LTE speeds or your throttled speed.
xellos2099 said:
Anyone here using the tmobile $30 dollar prepaid plan and have issue getting LTE? I got my phone a bit over a week ago and love it but there is the issue of no lte. Somehow I can only get up to hspa+ on ym oneplus and this is the newest respond from tforce.
Thanks for checking back, our engineers said at this time it is not a feature we can push to a prepaid account and in order to achieve LTE on that device you would need to change to a no credit check account.
Any advise?
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After reading a the responses and seeing you talked to them and have a new sim. I would think it is what I was talking about that phone dose not show up in there system as an LTE device as of yet.
Does your friend have T-Mobile if so I would think that is the case. If you used his sim and got LTE. I had it happen as I stated with my nexus 4 as a new customer. But using me S3 IMEI it worked when I put the sim back in my N4.
zephiK said:
Good question, I have no idea. I'll have to go and take a look. Just applying common sense, I think it'd be everybody regardless of their plans since when you do a speedtest you do submit information to speedtest servers so it would only help t mobile to have the best results.
Can you show us your APN just so we can double check?
Where did you get your SIM card? From T-Mobile directly? Some sellers sell SIM cards but they don't have LTE support. Try putting your SIM card into your friend's phone and see if you get LTE on his phone.
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http://imgur.com/gfna4hB
I used to have old sim, I went to t mobile store and they give me a new one and activate it there so I know it is new.
Vortex1969 said:
After reading a the responses and seeing you talked to them and have a new sim. I would think it is what I was talking about that phone dose not show up in there system as an LTE device as of yet.
Does your friend have T-Mobile if so I would think that is the case. I had it happen as I stated with my nexus 4 as a new customer. But using me S3 IMEI it worked when I put the sim back in my N4.
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The problem is that I don't think T-Mobile has OnePlus One IMEIs in their database. I've read that on a Reddit AMA with OnePlus employees. You'd have to give them a IMEI for a 4G compatible phone... or call them and hopefully you can find a good service representative who will help you out and provise you accordingly if everything else checks out (APN, SIM card,etc)
zephiK said:
Maybe the second one lol. The only way to really know is, well... surpass your 5GB monthly data allowance and then be throttled down then run a speedtest. See if the results return LTE speeds or your throttled speed.
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Funny thing I rarely surpass the 5gb
Only did it twice. Once was live streaming Google io 2013 and when downloading a rom kept going wrong lol.
jarjar124 said:
Funny thing I rarely surpass the 5gb
Only did it twice. Once was live streaming Google io 2013 and when downloading a rom kept going wrong lol.
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Hmm, well before your monthly cycle ends.... leave Netflix on over night or something so you can pass your limit and then you'll know if it counts for everybody lol. I usually run a speed test if im in a new area and then if its not high enough compared to my peak i just kill the app so it doesnt finish the speed test
zephiK said:
The problem is that I don't think T-Mobile has OnePlus One IMEIs in their database. I've read that on a Reddit AMA with OnePlus employees. You'd have to give them a IMEI for a 4G compatible phone... or call them and hopefully you can find a good service representative who will help you out and provise you accordingly if everything else checks out (APN, SIM card,etc)
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Yeap that is what I am saying I have seen it happen to many others even with a new accounts when the nexus 5 came out. Just reading that he talked to a rep tells me that its not in the system yet. And if he is a new to T that could be it. Give an old or other 4g IMEI will work.
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jarjar124 said:
For me it says 4G, but I'm on LTE speeds. You can check using the speedtest app. Just don't do it quite often because it uses data like crazy lol. It worked out of the box for me. No needed to change APN or anything.
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Light weight that's slow..j/k[emoji12]
Vortex1969 said:
Yeap that is what I am saying I have seen it happen to many others even with a new accounts when the nexus 5 came out.
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Light weight that's slow..j/k[emoji12]
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jarjar gave me a idea and i started a speedtest thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/oneplus-one-speed-test-result-thread-t2844144 lets get it populated
zephiK said:
jarjar gave me a idea and i started a speedtest thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/oneplus-one-speed-test-result-thread-t2844144 lets get it populated
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Well, I am not new to mobile, but the last device I got was a Galaxy Nexus which might be the problem since it was a hspa+ device. So what are my choices? Can I borrow a friend lte device and just give them the imei?
Will there be a OnePlus with full Verizon US LTE support? If anyone finds any news on which bands will be supported it will be great if you can past them here. Thanks!!
pretty sure its this one isn't it? the 845 modem supports more than before.
cerice74 said:
Will there be a OnePlus with full Verizon US LTE support? If anyone finds any news on which bands will be supported it will be great if you can past them here. Thanks!!
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it shut have global support
OcazPrime said:
pretty sure its this one isn't it? the 845 modem supports more than before.
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Yeah but if it does not have band 13 ( I believe that is Verizons main LTE band) then it OP 6 won't support LTE. I have read older OP will receive service but only up to 3G.
Yes, would love it to support VZW...will gladly sell my Pixel 2 XL to move back to OnePlus. But have no choice. Sucks that the best network in the US is limited for phones with support...damn Verizon...
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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Sent a tweet to the co-founder the other day asking about that...of course support jumps in with their standard "We have no information on this issue at this time. Please stay tuned for more information on our official launch of May 15th."
I know/heard they are looking to find a US partner, since VZW has the largest/best network pretty much in the US, supporting that network gives them a huge opportunity for a flagship phone, I know they need to compete with Google/Samsung in the store, but another alternative for people is always good. As I said, I was forced on to a Pixel 2 XL because it is the only real good phone that works on Verizon, plus you can bootloader unlock and has some Dev support on XDA...with Treble. Otherwise, HTC is another alternative, they have some of the best Dev support on XDA and can bootloader unlock, works on all networks. OnePlus should follow that lead, but build a better phone.
rav101 said:
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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Voice goes over Verizon's LTE as well. They will be shutting does CDMA in a few years
I sure hope so. My area is predominantly Verizon. The three main reasons I bought 1+, is bootloader unlock friendly, headphone jack, and dual SIM. My personal is ATT and my work is Verizon. I hate carrying two phones. I use my personal for data, and the work for just calls and texts. Works out ok, but group messages on Verizon get funky sometime but it's worth it. Plus I wish I could use my company's data instead of personal. The sacrifices to only carrying one phone.....here's to hoping 1+ finally includes all of Verizon's bands! And yes, soon everything will be over LTE, CDMA is going away.
rav101 said:
Whilst Verizon uses LTE for data, it still uses CDMA for voice and I don't think the OP phones support that?
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That's actually incorrect. OnePlus has supported CDMA (Band 0) since the OnePlus 3. Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10. Verizon uses Band 0 in almost all markets but there are quite a few major cities where they instead use Band 1 which OnePlus is still missing.
Service on Verizon is tied to the SIM and not the device. That's why users have used OnePlus 3/5 devices on Verizon successfully with service over Band 0 CDMA and Band 2/4 LTE. I do recall some indicating that there issues when switching between CDMA/LTE, but this may have since been resolved.
However, obviously the band support is far from optimal. If the 6 just adds B13 LTE then the OP6 would be viable for Verizon-use. I don't expect it will happen, but I believe it was brought to Carl Pei's attention at some point. It's not very difficult to add B13 LTE, so it's possible but not expected that they'd add support. Let's see what happens.
Also, using Dual SIM is an option lest you forget.
aenews said:
That's actually incorrect. OnePlus has supported CDMA (Band 0) since the OnePlus 3. Sprint uses Band 1 and Band 10. Verizon uses Band 0 in almost all markets but there are quite a few major cities where they instead use Band 1 which OnePlus is still missing.
Service on Verizon is tied to the SIM and not the device. That's why users have used OnePlus 3/5 devices on Verizon successfully with service over Band 0 CDMA and Band 2/4 LTE. I do recall some indicating that there issues when switching between CDMA/LTE, but this may have since been resolved.
However, obviously the band support is far from optimal. If the 6 just adds B13 LTE then the OP6 would be viable for Verizon-use. I don't expect it will happen, but I believe it was brought to Carl Pei's attention at some point. It's not very difficult to add B13 LTE, so it's possible but not expected that they'd add support. Let's see what happens.
Also, using Dual SIM is an option lest you forget.
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I stand corrected
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Based on this pic I got from the not quite fully working spec page, OnePlus 6 doesn't support the main verizon band of 13.
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Just read XDA's page on the specs:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-specifications-pricing-availability/
Band 0 for CDMA is there, no Band 13 :crying:
Fear_The_Fluff said:
Just read XDA's page on the specs:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6-specifications-pricing-availability/
Band 0 for CDMA is there, no Band 13 :crying:
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Is band 2 and 4 not good enough?? Just curious.
suzook said:
Is band 2 and 4 not good enough?? Just curious.
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Its never good enough lol
I use a 2nd phone for hotspot only, I would like to be able to use the primary bands for that phone. Now with 5G rolling out I wonder if maybe oneplus will add the bands for verizon's 5G when they implement it? Wishful thinking tho.
Boo....VZW and OnePLus...between the two of them...what a mess for customers. Love to get rid of my Pixel 2xl. Thing is so bulky/huge. There is really no other phone on VZW you can bootloader unlock/root with great specs and performance.
Hoping OnePlus 6 would come through...guess not. Stuck with Pixel 2 for now.
techlogik said:
Boo....VZW and OnePLus...between the two of them...what a mess for customers. Love to get rid of my Pixel 2xl. Thing is so bulky/huge. There is really no other phone on VZW you can bootloader unlock/root with great specs and performance.
Hoping OnePlus 6 would come through...guess not. Stuck with Pixel 2 for now.
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If I don't unlock/root are there any good spec phones at good price? I'm on a ZTE axon 7 with VZW but I can't use data when on a call and it's always losing the APN it's set to. I was really hoping the OnePlus would be my answer. I really need a stable phone.
I will report what i get on mine before i probably return it. No Verizon support? Seriously? They deserve this return, i literally assumed they had that implemented by now. LoL
I'm about to unbox & try it now, how disappointing....
accessive said:
I will report what i get on mine before i probably return it. No Verizon support? Seriously? They deserve this return, i literally assumed they had that implemented by now. LoL
I'm about to unbox & try it now, how disappointing....
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Lte only, no phone calls.
So let me get this right, the voice calling is what's missing on Verizon? What if i primarily use internet based calling via Google Hangouts (old Google voice number) for calling? I'm on an old limited minutes but unlimited data Verizon plan (old grandfathered in plans) so data is unrestricted but minutes aren't used much anyway. Normally i only use the regular line if service for LTE is just too poor for VOIP calls. It would be an inconvenience but maybe not a deal breaker.
I'd love to hear any thoughts before i decide to unbox it or just sell it. I have the 256gb model which is now sold out. Breaks my heart to not be able to use it on Verizon.