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Hi,
I am considering buying a NEXUS 5 US version. If I understand correctly it will be compatible with all speeds on US T mobile frequencies, but cannot tell if it will only give me gprs and edge in the EU, or if 3G as well. EU LTE seems like a no to me in this unit, but I can live without it.
I would also consider an HTC ONE as well, but the description there is even more contradicting, depending where I look at it.
Can anyone please point me to a reliable guide of US and EU cell provider and device frequencies? I would love to know what frequencies to look for.
I spent a few months early this year in EU, had a local HTC ONE X (no LTE) and was amazed by the speed and coverage I got; traveling in a car almost 2 hours a day, I could anywhere video skype home without interruption, or drop call, or quality issues. Would be great if I go back again, I didn't have to buy and sell a new phone again...
(With Sprint in LA, CA 4G, I cannot even make a phone call without it being dropped and skype calls not video are only a dream...)
Thank you very much for any help,
i_z said:
Hi,
I am considering buying a NEXUS 5 US version. If I understand correctly it will be compatible with all speeds on US T mobile frequencies, but cannot tell if it will only give me gprs and edge in the EU, or if 3G as well. EU LTE seems like a no to me in this unit, but I can live without it.
I would also consider an HTC ONE as well, but the description there is even more contradicting, depending where I look at it.
Can anyone please point me to a reliable guide of US and EU cell provider and device frequencies? I would love to know what frequencies to look for.
I spent a few months early this year in EU, had a local HTC ONE X (no LTE) and was amazed by the speed and coverage I got; traveling in a car almost 2 hours a day, I could anywhere video skype home without interruption, or drop call, or quality issues. Would be great if I go back again, I didn't have to buy and sell a new phone again...
(With Sprint in LA, CA 4G, I cannot even make a phone call without it being dropped and skype calls not video are only a dream...)
Thank you very much for any help,
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I bought the D820, the US version and here in Norway the LTE-bands are 3 & 7 wich is not supported on the US version.
If you buy the US version you only will get the HSDPA/3G in europe. The speed is really ok here in Norway.
Wikipedia can help you look for the different LTE(4G) bands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
i_z said:
Hi,
I am considering buying a NEXUS 5 US version. If I understand correctly it will be compatible with all speeds on US T mobile frequencies, but cannot tell if it will only give me gprs and edge in the EU, or if 3G as well. EU LTE seems like a no to me in this unit, but I can live without it.
I would also consider an HTC ONE as well, but the description there is even more contradicting, depending where I look at it.
Can anyone please point me to a reliable guide of US and EU cell provider and device frequencies? I would love to know what frequencies to look for.
I spent a few months early this year in EU, had a local HTC ONE X (no LTE) and was amazed by the speed and coverage I got; traveling in a car almost 2 hours a day, I could anywhere video skype home without interruption, or drop call, or quality issues. Would be great if I go back again, I didn't have to buy and sell a new phone again...
(With Sprint in LA, CA 4G, I cannot even make a phone call without it being dropped and skype calls not video are only a dream...)
Thank you very much for any help,
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The U.S version will work fine in Europe (or the rest of the world) sans LTE. That's it. EDGE/WCDMA/UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA(+) will work fine, just no LTE.
Thank You very much for the info!
Can anybody let me know if they switched from VZW to T mobile how the experience has been?
Do you regret it because of signal issues?
Thanks for any advice. [emoji106] [emoji111]
My girlfriend has T-mobile, and I used to have Verizon, until I switched to Sprint for their Google Voice integration. With T-mobile, the signal is realllyy spotty, but with Verizon it was quite good. This is from having been in the same place as her and only I had signal. So, I think you made a good choice.
I think it depends on where you are. Some areas T-Mobile sucks and some areas they are great but if you consider the savings worth, that what matters.
you can test drive Tmobile for 7 days free !
they even send you iphone5s to play for 7 days !
just google tmobile test drive
It just sucks that we probably won't have root with the Verizon version of the Edge.
It depends on where u live if you stay , Here in metro Detroit T-Mobile is the best provider IMO and there LTE speeds beats Verizon , AT&T, and Sprint. If you live in a rural area T-Mobile shouldn't be considered.
Detroitking02 said:
It depends on where u live if you stay , Here in metro Detroit T-Mobile is the best provider IMO and there LTE speeds beats Verizon , AT&T, and Sprint. If you live in a rural area T-Mobile shouldn't be considered.
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T-Mobile has converted some of their Edge network to LTE already and is continuing that process as we speak. Also, they are setting up their 700Mhz LTE network which will require a phone with Band 12 capabilities. Their network continues to improve, but I would try out the test drive and see how you like it. Be sure to return the phone or else they are going to bill you for it.
drbveb88 said:
Can anybody let me know if they switched from VZW to T mobile how the experience has been?
Do you regret it because of signal issues?
Thanks for any advice. [emoji106] [emoji111]
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Here in Minnesota tmobile is awesome, verizon obviously has the best coverage overall, but tmo In the last couple years has extended it's reach immensely, don't get me wrong, the coverage up here is outstanding, speeds are faster than verizon overall, the only difference in the extreme northwoods, like border of Canada in the middle of a lake miles and miles from a person I will have service, i might not have lte whereas verizon does spottingly (that a word?) Lol but overall I have zero complaints, in fact I have a couple buddies that are also in your dilemma take them for a spin first and see what you think
DigChrono said:
My girlfriend has T-mobile, and I used to have Verizon, until I switched to Sprint for their Google Voice integration. With T-mobile, the signal is realllyy spotty, but with Verizon it was quite good. This is from having been in the same place as her and only I had signal. So, I think you made a good choice.
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
I think it depends on where you are. Some areas T-Mobile sucks and some areas they are great but if you consider the savings worth, that what matters.
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netnerd said:
you can test drive Tmobile for 7 days free !
they even send you iphone5s to play for 7 days !
just google tmobile test drive
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Detroitking02 said:
It depends on where u live if you stay , Here in metro Detroit T-Mobile is the best provider IMO and there LTE speeds beats Verizon , AT&T, and Sprint. If you live in a rural area T-Mobile shouldn't be considered.
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slimc84 said:
T-Mobile has converted some of their Edge network to LTE already and is continuing that process as we speak. Also, they are setting up their 700Mhz LTE network which will require a phone with Band 12 capabilities. Their network continues to improve, but I would try out the test drive and see how you like it. Be sure to return the phone or else they are going to bill you for it.
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jdidtht said:
Here in Minnesota tmobile is awesome, verizon obviously has the best coverage overall, but tmo In the last couple years has extended it's reach immensely, don't get me wrong, the coverage up here is outstanding, speeds are faster than verizon overall, the only difference in the extreme northwoods, like border of Canada in the middle of a lake miles and miles from a person I will have service, i might not have lte whereas verizon does spottingly (that a word?) Lol but overall I have zero complaints, in fact I have a couple buddies that are also in your dilemma take them for a spin first and see what you think
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Thanks everyone. I am in Northern Virginia and the reviews are mixed here. While I am close to DC and Richmond so signal and coverage should be strong, there are so many military bases, Airports and suburbs- which all help to create problem areas.
I will have to give it a try to really get a good gauge. Why can't VZW just release a unlocked phone, save me these dilemmas. Lol.
Again, thanks for all the feedback.
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It just sucks that we probably won't have root with the Verizon version of the Edge.
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That's the whole reason I'm even contemplating. Uugh. [emoji53]
drbveb88 said:
That's the whole reason I'm even contemplating. Uugh. [emoji53]
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It's been a little over a year since I have been in that area, but when I was there, I had pretty good service. The only time I had any issues, was when I was inside buildings. But they have rolled out the 700 mhz spectrum there so that should greatly improve signal quality indoors.
Edit: Also, the only two phones listed on the T-Mobile website that support Band 12 are the Note 4 and the Note Edge. So you won't be able to test the connectivity if you do the 7 day test drive with the Iphone 5S.
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That's the whole reason I'm even contemplating. Uugh. [emoji53]
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Could you maybe pay off your t-mobile phone and just use straight talk with the t-mobile compatible straight talk sim card?
It's what I do.
If you have the unlimited data from Verizon i'd stay. they no longer offer that and if you switch to a carrier with bad reception in your area then you wont get to go back. as far as the strait talk comment goes that is no good either, their data speeds are ridiculously low. my wife has straight talk (Verizon phone) and i run circles around her with my Verizon contract phone. it may say 4g, but it's a lie... i just wish they still offered unlimited data so i could have used my upgrade that now will never be used.
if you do not have the unlimited package with Verizon i suggest you run like hell to the first available option that has service in your area. Verizon is mean. unfortunately for me there is no other choice atm.
Straight talk users a bunch of networks like at&t and T-mobile. It will vary by which network you're using on which phone in what area. Even different phones can vary because of their antenna and design blocking reception like some early iPhones. Just a thought. There's a lot of prepaid plans out there, I'd look into those and keep the phone if possible.
Anyone here will jump to Z5/Z5C/Z5P?
Only if it comes to Tmobile..... then again, have to see how the camera is. If it's as good as they say it is, might just have to buy one unlocked.
If you can get an unlocked version that carries all t-mobile bands then I'll probably go with it. Otherwise I'm going nexus.
I think i will.
Finally a fingerprint sensor Xperia which i really wished for. Not sure if i go premium or standard. The standard is a setback on battery life though. But compared to premium im not sure how that will compare. If i can get 2 days on any of those two i will go premium probably. I will wait for review anyways and test it in the store.
Hope they have sorted the SD810 overheat.. It looks like they have done something..
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If you can get an unlocked version that carries all t-mobile bands then I'll probably go with it. Otherwise I'm going nexus.
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T-Mobile is asking OEM's to disable band 12 support, on non TMO approved phones, which is needed for good indoor reception. This is because VoLTE on 700 has to be certified separately by TMO, and unlocked phones without band 12 VoLTE support can't fall back to 4G when switching from data to cellular leading to no calls but with full signal, this could cause issues in emergencies in areas that only have band 12 (rare issue but could cause legal problems)
I will wait for z6 to buy z5
abhinav.tella said:
T-Mobile is asking OEM's to disable band 12 support, on non TMO approved phones, which is needed for good indoor reception. This is because VoLTE on 700 has to be certified separately by TMO, and unlocked phones without band 12 VoLTE support can't fall back to 4G when switching from data to cellular leading to no calls but with full signal and could cause issues in emergencies in areas that only have band 12 (rare issue but could cause legal problems)
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Thanks for the info. So pretty much any phone t-mobile doesn't officially carry will be unable to get band 12?
I just hope if they do carry it they don't lock down the bootloader. The Z3 is a great phone but I need my AOSP fix. Luckily I still have my old S3 to tinker with.
Here is the link to the article:
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/08/t-mo...n-situation-with-band-12-and-unlocked-phones/
I purchased the Pixel from the Google store, and I'm pretty sure it will work on MetroPCS, I'm just hoping someone who knows a little more about how that aspect of the network works can give me a little more insight.
I'm getting a little sick of paying $130 a month for 1 phone with 16 GB of data, and that is after a 22% discount through work...
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I purchased the Pixel from the Google store, and I'm pretty sure it will work on MetroPCS, I'm just hoping someone who knows a little more about how that aspect of the network works can give me a little more insight.
I'm getting a little sick of paying $130 a month for 1 phone with 16 GB of data, and that is after a 22% discount through work...
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I'm confused if you're paying that much why don't you just switch to their parent network(T-Mobile). You'll get much more incentives on a better network for a lower price.
buzzy3970 said:
I'm confused if you're paying that much why don't you just switch to their parent network(T-Mobile). You'll get much more incentives on a better network for a lower price.
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the $130 is my price on Verizon. MetroPCS is $60 a month flat for unlimited data, and it doesn't throttle you down after a certain amount used. My biggest concern was T-Mobile customers having priority on the towers over MetroPCS customers during high congestion. but my friend who has MetroPCS used his all day at the Minnesota State Fair, data, calls, whatever, and never had an issue. That's 200,000+ people in a little over a square mile area, if he wasnt having priority issues then, I doubt I ever will.
It's mostly a question of since I bought the Google version of the Pixel instead of the Verizon version, will I be able to just stick a MetroPCS simcard in it and and have it work.
Oh I see. Was very lost with pricing lol, but yes seeing that metro pcs is a true gsm carrier all the bands for their network should be on the pixel...
It should work just fine. My experience with metro in one of the largest cities in the country (Houston, TX) has been great. I haven't noticed any slower data performance or call drops than when I had TMo proper, and you still get all the TMo perks, like not charging for data for popular apps like Youtube and Spotify (I don't pay for unlimited).
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It should work just fine. My experience with metro in one of the largest cities in the country (Houston, TX) has been great. I haven't noticed any slower data performance or call drops than when I had TMo proper, and you still get all the TMo perks, like not charging for data for popular apps like Youtube and Spotify (I don't pay for unlimited).
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I'll be doing unlimited so that I can use Playstation Vue mobile without issues, and to watch Red Zone once I find another cheap alternative (Going to hate giving up my $1.99 a month access to it through Verizon. Vue charges $39.99 for 6 months). I watched an hour of the Olympics while mobile once and used about 4 GB of data...
I am thinking about going this route... but want to be sure that the Pixel will work with all of the TMobile bands so i'll have good service as well as the Wifi Calling work. Anyone with MetroPCS and a Pixel able to confirm?
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anyone know for sure ? Wifi calling?
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anyone know for sure ? Wifi calling?
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Should work just fine on both WiFi calling and even voice over LTE. The only band the pixel doesn't have is Band 71.
dia_naji said:
Should work just fine on both WiFi calling and even voice over LTE. The only band the pixel doesn't have is Band 71.
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Do you know how important Band 71 is?
I ask because I first had a Verizon Branded V20 and brought it to T-Mobile.. The reception was fairly poor around my house.. would barely get 4g .. and seemed to be bouncing towers... but when I sold it and got a T-Mobile Branded V20.. the reception is tons better.. works great. So i just want to make sure Band 71 isn't a primary one and i'll go back to having bad service with a Verizon / Unlocked Pixel version.
Thanks!
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Do you know how important Band 71 is?
I ask because I first had a Verizon Branded V20 and brought it to T-Mobile.. The reception was fairly poor around my house.. would barely get 4g .. and seemed to be bouncing towers... but when I sold it and got a T-Mobile Branded V20.. the reception is tons better.. works great. So i just want to make sure Band 71 isn't a primary one and i'll go back to having bad service with a Verizon / Unlocked Pixel version.
Thanks!
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Band 71 is only for extended LTE. Really isn't that big of a deal. Verizon branded phones are different they have bands that are sometimes locked for Verizon. The only real difference between the Verizon pixel and the pixel from google was the unlock able boot-loader. As for band 71 it's not deployed in some cities and depends on where you live. Th most important band is band 12 which the google pixel has. I've had the pixel for Verizon and never had any problems with service or even download speeds. As for band 71 not even the pixel 2 or the iPhone x have it so you really don't need to worry about it. It should work on Metro pcs, but i believe you need update your imei through the Metro pcs website.
I just picked up a pixel 1 in great condition yesterday and did carrier swap this morning by phone and it works very well. Go for it
Yep! The wife bought me one! So I was able to get it up and running on Friday... been using it all weekend! So far it seems to be working wonderful!
So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.
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So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.
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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!
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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!
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Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.
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Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.
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Well, crap. Thank you for conducting the experiment. Yeah, it's the Pixel 2XL WITH an sd card slot, which is what I want, except apparently without Band 2, the thing's hobbled. I was gonna install the Google HDR+ camera app and have it all! Damn.
I got my hopes up because I saw reports of people bringing the Exynos Note 8 over here and getting it to work, but IT has Band 2! Seriously, how tough is it to add these bands! Do people want to sell phones or not?!!
Anyway, thanks again. An answer is an answer, even if it's not the one I was hoping for.
And yeah, if you're reclaiming that term, I completely respect that, but I still gotta go with CJ.
Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.
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Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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JrWriter87 said:
If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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Sorry for the delayed response, but I got it from Amazon. Took about 4-5 days to receive it even though Amazons system said 2 weeks. I also just noticed that it's a decent amount cheaper now as well compared to when I bought it in December by over $100.
HTC U11 Plus (2Q4D100) 6GB / 128GB 6.0-inches LTE Dual SIM Factory Unlocked - International Stock No Warranty (Ceramic Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07849L28F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TMqHAbDAA316F
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I agree with this I've had zero issues so far since getting this phone. Only had it for a day now but prior to I ran LTE Discover on my HTC U11 and saw I very rarely used Band 2 (San Diego). After some digging I saw how Band 2 works on T-Mobile and I'm OK without it. I'll be in Vegas in a week so I'll be curious how it holds up there, though I don't really expect hiccups. The one thing I do want to get back is VOLTE/VOWIFI.
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.
LadyDi said:
I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.
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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.
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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.
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Thank you. I did install LTE Discovery and was able to get information on what band I am on and more. It keeps flipping back to 'H' loads which is made me wondering what I might be doing wrong if it is not in the phone itself. I am in a strong 4G LTE area for work (base) and home. My Nexus 6 and my Note 5 always read 4G LTE in an area as such. I still love this phone even though it's not 2 weeks old yet.
I'm tempted to get this for an upgrade from my HTC 10. I don't care too much about the dual camera for the HTC 12+, plus I want it in Red which might not even come out in the US. So with the bigger battery 3,900 mah, about $200 less and the red color now. Would this be a good buy if I typically travel around the east coast?
I have one I purchased on a recent trip overseas to Taiwan. My carrier here in the US is Tmobile and I only have connectivity issues in rural areas. Can someone point me to a stock ROM from Tmobile that would be compatible with this phone?
Thanks.