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Banking Apps part two

Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores, https://youtu.be/uwGcXyLaddE link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris

ChrisHtube said:
Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores,
link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris
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Natwest is currently not on HMS but the website has been mobile optimised so it will work better than it has done ?

ChrisHtube said:
Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores, https://youtu.be/uwGcXyLaddE link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris
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i also use monzo mate and it runs with no issues at all. Hope this helps

bluechains88 said:
Natwest is currently not on HMS but the website has been mobile optimised so it will work better than it has done
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Ok nice, i didn't realise it was optimised for the web so that's helpful to know.

JaiHamilton88 said:
i also use monzo mate and it runs with no issues at all. Hope this helps
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Interesting, how did you get Monzo to work? i have tried through App Gallery and its not supported yet and same with Petal search. Did you phone clone or another App store?

ChrisHtube said:
Interesting, how did you get Monzo to work? i have tried through App Gallery and its not supported yet and same with Petal search. Did you phone clone or another App store?
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yeah done it via phone clone and works perfect mate

ChrisHtube said:
Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores, https://youtu.be/uwGcXyLaddE link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris
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My wife has a P40 Lite and uses Barclays - we simply added a Website shortcut to her home screen and Password Vault remembers her main info with just a pin option to log in - really simple work around with no issues.

JaiHamilton88 said:
yeah done it via phone clone and works perfect mate
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Ok thank you, ill add it to my notes

ChrisHtube said:
Ok nice, i didn't realise it was optimised for the web so that's helpful to know.
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They took their time to do it. Most websites are optimised by now to be honest. I think santander still isn't but apparently the mobile app works on HMS now.
If this had happened to Huawei 8 years ago they may have been in trouble, but theres so many options in 2020 you shouldn't limit yourself, the camera is awesome. Huawei should go down the route of unlocking bootloaders and become to the underground phone champ. But the software ain't bad to be fair

I was trying to find out if Phone Clone was safe or not - Ive read its very good but nothing else.

GRK12 said:
I was trying to find out if Phone Clone was safe or not - Ive read its very good but nothing else.
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Phone clone is safe to use. It creates its own bubble around the two phones when transferring files. Super simple and easy to use.

Its a bit of a pain that Barclays doesnt work, i have a current account, a credit card and a savings account with them so need the 2 apps.
Not the worst thing in the world as their web browser version works but ah well

SpeakFriendnEnter said:
Its a bit of a pain that Barclays doesnt work, i have a current account, a credit card and a savings account with them so need the 2 apps.
Not the worst thing in the world as their web browser version works but ah well
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yup i get that, its the same with NatWest, at the moment it appears the only work around is weblinks.

I use the barclaycard app and Pingit a lot, so bit of a pain these arent currently on the Appstore. I took a punt on the P40 Pro as I think they will get the missing apps over tje next few months (I hope). I can login online but then trying to add a payment to the Mrs asks me to login to the App to use the pin sentry, which kinda defeats the online objective lol. The only other app I use a lot is the YouTube app, and so far havent got that working yet. MBNA and Capital One Credit Card apps seem to work ok on the P40

AMEX, TSB, and Revolut all fine as well

labpedro said:
I use the barclaycard app and Pingit a lot, so bit of a pain these arent currently on the Appstore. I took a punt on the P40 Pro as I think they will get the missing apps over tje next few months (I hope). I can login online but then trying to add a payment to the Mrs asks me to login to the App to use the pin sentry, which kinda defeats the online objective lol. The only other app I use a lot is the YouTube app, and so far havent got that working yet. MBNA and Capital One Credit Card apps seem to work ok on the P40
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Have you looked up YouTube Vanced ?

rockitman said:
Have you looked up YouTube Vanced ?
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Yes mate, got it on the phone now, cant login to it for the life of me, no matter what I do. Followed the guide but will not log in. ah well

labpedro said:
Yes mate, got it on the phone now, cant login to it for the life of me, no matter what I do. Followed the guide but will not log in. ah well
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When I got my P40pro I first followed a guide to get the limited Google services. Then put the Vanced with the Micro G. So it all works ok. But I'm not sure if the Vanced and micro G will work without going through the Google setup first.
As a side note even after getting the Google going NatWest banking still won't login with the app so I have to use the browser.
I used this guide for Google.
https://youtu.be/mxvTZ-D6THI

rockitman said:
When I got my P40pro I first followed a guide to get the limited Google services. Then put the Vanced with the Micro G. So it all works ok. But I'm not sure if the Vanced and micro G will work without going through the Google setup first.
As a side note even after getting the Google going NatWest banking still won't login with the app so I have to use the browser.
I used this guide for Google.
https://youtu.be/mxvTZ-D6THI
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I had same problem with NatWest I have done the icebox method and newest work and Google duo

On the play store I kept hassling NatWest in the review section about p40pro not working, it was a slog but the upshot is I've had a reply saying they are aware newer Huawei models aren't working with the app and they are working with Huawei to try and fix the problem.
I think it might be useful if more NatWest users also comment on the play store review area if your able, even with your old device so it puts more pressure on them to come up with a fix. I would have posted the screen shot but I don't know how on this site.

The apps you love and use on Huawei phones without Google services

Hey What's up guys,
So following on from my banking segments i thought id cover off Popular apps next.
So some of the top apps i have successfully been able to install and run without side loading GMS. This again has been done via Phone Clone, Huawei App Gallery, Petal search which draws from APK stores.
Microsoft Office
WhatsApp and i was able to transfer my chat history
Facebook
TikTok
Instagram
Twitter
Messenger
Spotify
Netflix
Snapchat
Disney Life
CODM
And many more. A lot of people still think you cant get these apps or that its very difficult to do so, or that you have to sideload GMS. Hopefully this helps build a better understanding of what you can get and with ease.
Let me know what you guys have managed to install Without sideloading GMS and did you know about getting all these apps?

What is the point? The list will be huge. Are you going to maintain this huge list of thousands of software?
Do you have some sort of website to do this effectively .. or just a random list of software in a forum in no particular order?
what is some apps work 90% ok but have a minor glitch? will that be addressed in your website for this new database?

linux2525 said:
What is the point? The list will be huge. Are you going to maintain this huge list of thousands of software?
Do you have some sort of website to do this effectively .. or just a random list of software in a forum in no particular order?
what is some apps work 90% ok but have a minor glitch? will that be addressed in your website for this new database?
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The OP is merely exchanging experience of life without google, sharing what apps work or not may be useful to some members.
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ChrisHtube said:
Hey What's up guys,
So following on from my banking segments i thought id cover off Popular apps next.
So some of the top apps i have successfully been able to install and run without side loading GMS. This again has been done via Phone Clone, Huawei App Gallery, Petal search which draws from APK stores.
Microsoft Office
WhatsApp and i was able to transfer my chat history
Facebook
TikTok
Instagram
Twitter
Messenger
Spotify
Netflix
Snapchat
Disney Life
CODM
And many more. A lot of people still think you cant get these apps or that its very difficult to do so, or that you have to sideload GMS. Hopefully this helps build a better understanding of what you can get and with ease.
Let me know what you guys have managed to install Without sideloading GMS and did you know about getting all these apps?
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To add to this, check out what people are installing on amazon fire tablets as a workaround, you may find it useful!

linux2525 said:
What is the point? The list will be huge. Are you going to maintain this huge list of thousands of software?
Do you have some sort of website to do this effectively .. or just a random list of software in a forum in no particular order?
what is some apps work 90% ok but have a minor glitch? will that be addressed in your website for this new database?
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Hi, i completely understand where you are coming from. I am only trying to share my experience and see what others have found. I'm new to forums so this may not be as well laid out as your use to but ill get better with time. If you have noticed any glitches with any of the above apps then it would be cool to know about your experience.

machina77 said:
The OP is merely exchanging experience of life without google, sharing what apps work or not may be useful to some members.
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To add to this, check out what people are installing on amazon fire tablets as a workaround, you may find it useful!
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Thank you for this i will check it out. Have you fund any particular app store that's worked best? i have been testing a few.

meh ive got the p40 pro and ive been fine using it, googles not everything. I used google for email, browser, maps and downloading apps, didn't use google books didn't use google pay after using it and having my account hacked and multiple credit and store cards taken out!! I googled it and its more common than you think.)
I still use gmail but just use their email app, I used their browser at first but recently started using duck duck go, I use here we go maps as that's the 2nd best offline navigation next to google maps and downloading apps? Went straight to app gallery and downloaded petal search which gives me everything..
Everyone's different and if you need Google then get a phone with it on but im enjoying the freedom!

P40 Pro with HMS, No GMS

Hello everyone,
So i have been posting about banking apps how to get them and other apps. I have noticed a lot of people side loading GMS or trying to and was wondering why?
I don't have GMS on my device, I'm happily using HMS as the two are not built to run together. I have all my banking apps, social media, games ect on HMS via Phone clone, App Gallery and Petal search. I still use my Gmail via the Huawei email apps no problems.
Would love everyone's feedback as to why the need for GMS?

I have been temped to load it on myself. The issue for me would be my ease of use with all the apps under one store and not having to rely on your banking to come across from previous phone. Also with the GMS again it is the ease of use knowing I can log on my laptop after and it is synced over, Youtube is a big thing for many people aswell. I used Vanced, which is good but i can't log in and subscribe to channels i am a fan of also it doesn't hold the place in the video you are watching if you need to close the app for various reasons.

I have also considered a side load but tbh there's nothing on gms I that I don't already have on my p3
40 Pro.

When I cross refrenced the Google Services I actually only ever used Photos, Maps and YouTube
For me having these replacements from the get go on my Huawei P40 Pro was a easy transition - Huawei Cloud, Here We Go and YVLR
HMS is bigger and better than I thought, Android OS has helped massively.

ChrisHtube said:
Hello everyone,
So i have been posting about banking apps how to get them and other apps. I have noticed a lot of people side loading GMS or trying to and was wondering why?
I don't have GMS on my device, I'm happily using HMS as the two are not built to run together. I have all my banking apps, social media, games ect on HMS via Phone clone, App Gallery and Petal search. I still use my Gmail via the Huawei email apps no problems.
Would love everyone's feedback as to why the need for GMS?
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YouTube and PlayStore and Barclays are the only sticking points and reasons why I'd want it to be honest!

ChrisHtube said:
Hello everyone,
So i have been posting about banking apps how to get them and other apps. I have noticed a lot of people side loading GMS or trying to and was wondering why?
I don't have GMS on my device, I'm happily using HMS as the two are not built to run together. I have all my banking apps, social media, games ect on HMS via Phone clone, App Gallery and Petal search. I still use my Gmail via the Huawei email apps no problems.
Would love everyone's feedback as to why the need for GMS?
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I am perfectly happy living within Huawei's ecosystem

So Barclays is a go to for me and to have it on my P40 Pro would be amazing I am currently using the weblink saved to device but find myself using Barclays official app on my Huawei M5, I hope Barclays can devolp an app for HMS this side of the year.
GMS is no big requirement for myself I looked at the GMS folder and only every use Photos, Maps and YT all of these have a workaround on HMS, goodbye GMS hello HMS.

dw9075n said:
I have been temped to load it on myself. The issue for me would be my ease of use with all the apps under one store and not having to rely on your banking to come across from previous phone. Also with the GMS again it is the ease of use knowing I can log on my laptop after and it is synced over, Youtube is a big thing for many people aswell. I used Vanced, which is good but i can't log in and subscribe to channels i am a fan of also it doesn't hold the place in the video you are watching if you need to close the app for various reasons.
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Hi, so i would say best approach for a lot of this is,
1 Download petal search, this gives you access to many app stores via one application. Making life easy.
2 Use Huawei ID which you can set up in settings, this allows you to do the same thing you can access your device from a laptop and pull over all the info from your phone which is cool.
3 The banking app i wouldn't say is a massive thing in regards to using Phone Clone, most people will use this app when setting up there new phone to pull your data over. So its not adding any more steps in for set up.
4 I personally just use the browser for YouTube and save it as a shortcut to my home screen. You can log in and when you switch window it saves your place on the video, so if you need to send a text ect this is perfect.
I hope this helps

Tech_Droid1 said:
So Barclays is a go to for me and to have it on my P40 Pro would be amazing I am currently using the weblink saved to device but find myself using Barclays official app on my Huawei M5, I hope Barclays can devolp an app for HMS this side of the year.
GMS is no big requirement for myself I looked at the GMS folder and only every use Photos, Maps and YT all of these have a workaround on HMS, goodbye GMS hello HMS.[/QUOTE
This big thing i think people are missing is, people swap from IOS to Android every day. They swap from one system to another one, now there's a third option. And if you have seen IOS 14 they are looking to adopt 3rd party apps which is what HMS already offers.
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ChrisHtube said:
Hi, so i would say best approach for a lot of this is,
1 Download petal search, this gives you access to many app stores via one application. Making life easy.
2 Use Huawei ID which you can set up in settings, this allows you to do the same thing you can access your device from a laptop and pull over all the info from your phone which is cool.
3 The banking app i wouldn't say is a massive thing in regards to using Phone Clone, most people will use this app when setting up there new phone to pull your data over. So its not adding any more steps in for set up.
4 I personally just use the browser for YouTube and save it as a shortcut to my home screen. You can log in and when you switch window it saves your place on the video, so if you need to send a text ect this is perfect.
I hope this helps
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Yeah this is pretty helpful thanks. Just the ease of a Youtube app that i can login on.

Tech_Droid1 said:
When I cross refrenced the Google Services I actually only ever used Photos, Maps and YouTube
For me having these replacements from the get go on my Huawei P40 Pro was a easy transition - Huawei Cloud, Here We Go and YVLR
HMS is bigger and better than I thought, Android OS has helped massively.
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Huawei have done a good job at making the transition easier for user coming from GMS Huawei or other phones like IOS or Android ect. There are easy work arounds for everything and if you love having complete control HMS is 100% what you want.

dw9075n said:
Yeah this is pretty helpful thanks. Just the ease of a Youtube app that i can login on.
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handy indeed, thank you

JaiHamilton88 said:
handy indeed, thank you
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Browser or Youtube Vanced are good options.
I have GMS installed for a couple of minor local apps but the majority works fine with HMS give it a bit and i will remove GMS.
My only gripe for now would be Android Auto which i use daily.

Help
I have a mate 20 pro I am using outlook and my main apps are Twitter Instagram YouTube what's app and telegram I am not interested in Google maps there are better alternatives and i store my photos in cloud Huawei . If I use the phone bare HMS am I going to have notification issues ? I have no issue using phone clone petal search and apkpure or even Amazon you think I should upgrade I'm on the UK can you get YouTube Vanced to get notifications . My bank is Monzo I heard the app works I understand Pay won't work not that bothered if Monzo works
Do I upgrade from my mate 20 pro

ChrisHtube said:
Tech_Droid1 said:
So Barclays is a go to for me and to have it on my P40 Pro would be amazing I am currently using the weblink saved to device but find myself using Barclays official app on my Huawei M5, I hope Barclays can devolp an app for HMS this side of the year.
GMS is no big requirement for myself I looked at the GMS folder and only every use Photos, Maps and YT all of these have a workaround on HMS, goodbye GMS hello HMS.[/QUOTE
This big thing i think people are missing is, people swap from IOS to Android every day. They swap from one system to another one, now there's a third option. And if you have seen IOS 14 they are looking to adopt 3rd party apps which is what HMS already offers.
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To think Huawei has been through leaps and bounds and now with the Trump tantrum its only proved how strong Huawei are and to think Huawei have started up HMS with Android in a very strong position unlike most quote Nokia / Microsoft / Blackberry.
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Mafiatounes said:
Browser or Youtube Vanced are good options.
I have GMS installed for a couple of minor local apps but the majority works fine with HMS give it a bit and i will remove GMS.
My only gripe for now would be Android Auto which i use daily.
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When i have used auto in the passed i have found it very inconsistent. Found waze is the best for maps.

Ive tried a sideloaded mate30 pro and initially I thought it was a wow moment, but after a couple of weeks I realised I wasn't getting the best out of my device especially as it hugely affected the battery performance, and since giving that to my wife and sharking her upgrade to the p40 pro I can say I prefer the HMS device. Shes reset the phone and stripped out GMS or shall i say I did lol and other than the Barclays app we are sorted. I mean utilising phone clone/app gallery/ petal search im completely set up. I was ever so worried about the function of not being able to cast to my chromecast however on my smart tv downstairs I can screen share using the wireless projection function. SO life continues and my device is awesome

dw9075n said:
When i have used auto in the passed i have found it very inconsistent. Found waze is the best for maps.
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Well it depends i dont have issues now with my P40 P but i did with my S20U. Also firmware of the car and a good cable is important. For now it is stable.

TBH it might have just been the car that was the issue. Always use the cable that is provided with the device.

dw9075n said:
TBH it might have just been the car that was the issue. Always use the cable that is provided with the device.
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What car do you drive? I have an Audi atm and have just had zero luck getting it to work either on older GMS devices. I'll continue to angle my phone in the cup holder.... I heard rumours of something called HiCar coming later down the line? :cyclops:

Life before Google & After ;)

Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers

one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact

Barclays Banking - I'm happy enough to use it via the browser for the time being, as it's an app I only use a few times a month but would be nice to see added!
YouTube via Browser just isn't a full time solution for me - discovering Vanced has been a saviour (it's now on my P30 Pro too)
Google Drive and Photos was one that I didn't think I used at all, but is one of those things upon using a HMS device you realise you do! (Drive for WhatsApp backup and Photos was a nice background back up I never thought about) - I have since swapped over to Huawei's cloud making use of the 50GB free for 1 year offer and I've been pleasantly surprised at how well made and easy it is to use - not something that can always be said about their in-house solutions if we're being honest.
Google Maps was never used as navigation for me but more for visualising routes via a browser search - which it still works via - Have always used Waze or in car Sat Nav.
Never been interested in NFC payments and assistants, but will be interest to give them a go once Celia? and Huawei Pay improve/go live!

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers
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Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.

For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.

dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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haha, love your comment. I now a few people who are just using the online banking until its working.

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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Tell me about it Barclays needs to join the party soon for the exact same reason
how are you chrome casting? When I hit the screen share button on YTVR nothing seems to happen?

ChrisHtube said:
Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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Petal Search Find Apps is great hands down, I have used Bolt and it is great to have this app on board so early as Bolt is going to be the next best thing for Uber like services also having the big branded apps on board is great.
I think (probably is happening in the background) HMS should be bringing in app purchases, mapping system in line app usage for apps like Pokémon Go / Uber etc
It would also be great to see App Gallery on app commercials like how it says available on Google Play Store, Apple Store etc this gets the brand out in to the public domain a lot more.

dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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Oh well, Neros is better anyway I'm still old school with the stamp cards but makes me wonder if theirs will work or not too!

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone
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I have tried the only issue is that i have not got a physical card. always been digital.

ChrisHtube said:
Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!
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Still waiting for Deliveroo in this town :laugh:

I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.

skyisblue79 said:
I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.
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Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>

Tech_Droid1 said:
Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>
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No I will still keep GMS as play store is still working and I'm able to access my paid apps. Guess I will live with this error till some better fix comes up.

How are you getting on with no play store of GMS.

Hi Guys.
Now its been a few months with the device, I know a lot of you are using the device with GMS. I have decided not to side load it on to the device, It took me a while to start get used to using the phone without. I have not had any real issues with getting apps via app gallery and petal search. (I have the odd app that doesn't work 100%, but they are apps i can live without)
how are you getting on with it all?

its been good for me also, thought i would have had a lot more issues but every app i need is there, the only exclusion atm being ebay which i can easly use via web as its layout is same as an app anyway lol

I think like most initially I was apprehensive but 8 weeks on I don't even notice tbh, life continues and I've got a banging bit of kit

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Hi Guys.
Now its been a few months with the device, I know a lot of you are using the device with GMS. I have decided not to side load it on to the device, It took me a while to start get used to using the phone without. I have not had any real issues with getting apps via app gallery and petal search. (I have the odd app that doesn't work 100%, but they are apps i can live without)
how are you getting on with it all?
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What apps are these? i may have easy work arounds for you.

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I think like most initially I was apprehensive but 8 weeks on I don't even notice tbh, life continues and I've got a banging bit of kit
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Pretty much how I feel, still a few apps here and there like OP said. Do hope AppGallery gets fleshed out soon, sounds like there's promising things on the way - just hoping Huawei invest in their ecosystem / store as they said they would!
That said, Petal Search was a pretty smart way for them to get arround Apps not being launched on their own store... Well played Huawei.

I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.

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I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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This is actually a really interest approach that makes a lot of sense. One thing I will say is HMS still seems to be better on the battery than GMS devices / installed. I guess it would be a lot of the data collection and analysis from Googles end.
Do mapping services still work with both cores completely removed? Has there been any draw backs at all?

The Google maps app works fine. I use it daily. But apps that use Google maps needs Google services to display the map(Like Grab). They don't work. This is the only drawback that I experienced.

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What apps are these? i may have easy work arounds for you.
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The only app i have had real issues with is the starbucks app. I've tried via the browsers but cannot use the card feature.

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The Google maps app works fine. I use it daily. But apps that use Google maps needs Google services to display the map(Like Grab). They don't work. This is the only drawback that I experienced.
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I am guessing that HMS core apps are probably on there way just taking a while.

it'll be good to see what will come in the next few months, daily there seems to be something new, I think I noticed sky go is now available!

now that i have gotten issues sorted out its not bad at all , only thing i miss is being able to cast to my chromecast. i set microsoft launcher and it allowed me to set google as my search engine so it feels very similar.

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The only app i have had real issues with is the starbucks app. I've tried via the browsers but cannot use the card feature.
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i see, unfortunately i don't use Starbucks. Im more of a Monster man haha. If i find anything ill be sure to let you know.

faceliler said:
I used my phone with and without google play store. Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores. This impacted battery drastically. It added me 3 hrs of on-screen time. As for an app store, I use modded apkpure market. Mod disables all reporting, ads etc.
P.s Now i have a ridiculously long battery life. Enjoying my phone more than before.
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Would you have a link to that mod please?

rbs_uk said:
Would you have a link to that mod please?
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I got it from this website: https://apk4all.com/android/apps/apkpure-mobile-appstore-mod/

I meant link for this "Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores"
Manual for debloating?

MixEvo said:
now that i have gotten issues sorted out its not bad at all , only thing i miss is being able to cast to my chromecast. i set microsoft launcher and it allowed me to set google as my search engine so it feels very similar.
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When I am am streaming I just use the wireless display feature on the device.

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
it'll be good to see what will come in the next few months, daily there seems to be something new, I think I noticed sky go is now available!
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Yeah it looks like it is getting much better. Once it has banking apps on there it will likely do much better and more people will start realising how fantastic the device is.

My music service is YouTube, I can't live without google services. I've been thinking about switch to other phone, the only gps I got working 100% of the time is Waze(Google app), don't have push for many apps is frustrating and I lost google pay that I used a lot. So not very happy.

raamoon said:
My music service is YouTube, I can't live without google services. I've been thinking about switch to other phone, the only gps I got working 100% of the time is Waze(Google app), don't have push for many apps is frustrating and I lost google pay that I used a lot. So not very happy.
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Try YouTube Vanced. Better than youtube and works.
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I meant link for this "Decided to debloat my phone and got rid of all huawei and google services, including app stores"
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Oh sorry, I used this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/adb-debloating-t4088633
In addition, I got the app called "App inspector" and got rid of many more apps than those in the guide. App inspector is for getting the package name of bloatware so i can use adb to uninstall.