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this is how you can enjoy using the p40 even without google app huge list alternative

i wanted to paste the guide here but xda is not accepting my doc formatting please see the guide here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13X_ZZELINL5jIJZTcpPDRsmIGQ7cYMy6nuahJQJ5DzE/

Nice guide - albeit I couldn't overlook the irony of using Google Docs here!

Nice document. For me though it's not really the Google apps that I can't substitue, I hardly use any anyway. It's mainly apps that don't work because of GMS.

i have to say that having had this phone for a few days and trying to use it without play services it was becoming a struggle for me.
I downloaded as many of my apps i use from the app store and 3rd party sites but its just not the same. I forgot how much information i had stored with google like passwords and login details etc.
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.

hpsauce37 said:
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
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Which guide did you follow? I see one on XDA and other ones floating around the web. Did you run into any issues or did the guide works step by step?

I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.

Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS

rambits said:
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
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But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced

ptlsajan said:
But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
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You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.

steveli92 said:
You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
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I tried that with OGyoutube and login in with microg service wasnt possible for me

hpsauce37 said:
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
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I followed the same guide and everything but the notifications works. Only notifications from a few apps work. All apps that require the Google services to get the notifications (about 85% for me) do not seem to work.

I too didn't managed to login with MicroG and without GMS...

Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?

arsenal74 said:
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
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It's funny that you mentioned eBay and The Athletic as they are two apps that I use quite regularly and am having the same issue - is there any way around this without installing GMS?
My P40 Pro only arrived a couple of days ago and I really like the look and feel of it but the notifications thing is already bugging me. Currently, I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...

Tmel14 said:
I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
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install microG and move on .. notifications are completely screwed on HMS-naked .. even Huawei App Gallery apps are screwed-up with notifications .. very strange that this is often overlooked in the P40 Pro reviews ... how can you answer a skype call if the app never rings with a notification?

Banking Apps part two

Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores, https://youtu.be/uwGcXyLaddE link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris

ChrisHtube said:
Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores,
link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris
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Natwest is currently not on HMS but the website has been mobile optimised so it will work better than it has done ?

ChrisHtube said:
Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores, https://youtu.be/uwGcXyLaddE link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris
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i also use monzo mate and it runs with no issues at all. Hope this helps

bluechains88 said:
Natwest is currently not on HMS but the website has been mobile optimised so it will work better than it has done
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Ok nice, i didn't realise it was optimised for the web so that's helpful to know.

JaiHamilton88 said:
i also use monzo mate and it runs with no issues at all. Hope this helps
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Interesting, how did you get Monzo to work? i have tried through App Gallery and its not supported yet and same with Petal search. Did you phone clone or another App store?

ChrisHtube said:
Interesting, how did you get Monzo to work? i have tried through App Gallery and its not supported yet and same with Petal search. Did you phone clone or another App store?
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yeah done it via phone clone and works perfect mate

ChrisHtube said:
Following on from last weeks post on banking apps, i thought i would share what banking apps you can get and how without installing GMS. These are just some below, if you know of any others in each category feel free to comment. Looking for no side loaded GMS devices, thanks guys.
App Gallery
Currently none of the mainstream banking apps are available through App Gallery but there are some smaller third party banking apps.
Phone Clone, this is Huawei's data transfer app which can be installed on any device and pre installed on Huawei phones.
Tesco Works on HMS
First Direct Works on HMS
Halifax Works on HMS
Lloyds Works on HMS
Nation Wide Works on HMS
Santander Works on HMS
HSBC Works on HMS
Petal Search, New Huawei app built to help you find apps quickly and draws from other major app stores, https://youtu.be/uwGcXyLaddE link to YouTube video on Petal Search
Halifax works on HMS
Tesco works on HMS
Thanks Chris
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My wife has a P40 Lite and uses Barclays - we simply added a Website shortcut to her home screen and Password Vault remembers her main info with just a pin option to log in - really simple work around with no issues.

JaiHamilton88 said:
yeah done it via phone clone and works perfect mate
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Ok thank you, ill add it to my notes

ChrisHtube said:
Ok nice, i didn't realise it was optimised for the web so that's helpful to know.
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They took their time to do it. Most websites are optimised by now to be honest. I think santander still isn't but apparently the mobile app works on HMS now.
If this had happened to Huawei 8 years ago they may have been in trouble, but theres so many options in 2020 you shouldn't limit yourself, the camera is awesome. Huawei should go down the route of unlocking bootloaders and become to the underground phone champ. But the software ain't bad to be fair

I was trying to find out if Phone Clone was safe or not - Ive read its very good but nothing else.

GRK12 said:
I was trying to find out if Phone Clone was safe or not - Ive read its very good but nothing else.
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Phone clone is safe to use. It creates its own bubble around the two phones when transferring files. Super simple and easy to use.

Its a bit of a pain that Barclays doesnt work, i have a current account, a credit card and a savings account with them so need the 2 apps.
Not the worst thing in the world as their web browser version works but ah well

SpeakFriendnEnter said:
Its a bit of a pain that Barclays doesnt work, i have a current account, a credit card and a savings account with them so need the 2 apps.
Not the worst thing in the world as their web browser version works but ah well
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yup i get that, its the same with NatWest, at the moment it appears the only work around is weblinks.

I use the barclaycard app and Pingit a lot, so bit of a pain these arent currently on the Appstore. I took a punt on the P40 Pro as I think they will get the missing apps over tje next few months (I hope). I can login online but then trying to add a payment to the Mrs asks me to login to the App to use the pin sentry, which kinda defeats the online objective lol. The only other app I use a lot is the YouTube app, and so far havent got that working yet. MBNA and Capital One Credit Card apps seem to work ok on the P40

AMEX, TSB, and Revolut all fine as well

labpedro said:
I use the barclaycard app and Pingit a lot, so bit of a pain these arent currently on the Appstore. I took a punt on the P40 Pro as I think they will get the missing apps over tje next few months (I hope). I can login online but then trying to add a payment to the Mrs asks me to login to the App to use the pin sentry, which kinda defeats the online objective lol. The only other app I use a lot is the YouTube app, and so far havent got that working yet. MBNA and Capital One Credit Card apps seem to work ok on the P40
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Have you looked up YouTube Vanced ?

rockitman said:
Have you looked up YouTube Vanced ?
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Yes mate, got it on the phone now, cant login to it for the life of me, no matter what I do. Followed the guide but will not log in. ah well

labpedro said:
Yes mate, got it on the phone now, cant login to it for the life of me, no matter what I do. Followed the guide but will not log in. ah well
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When I got my P40pro I first followed a guide to get the limited Google services. Then put the Vanced with the Micro G. So it all works ok. But I'm not sure if the Vanced and micro G will work without going through the Google setup first.
As a side note even after getting the Google going NatWest banking still won't login with the app so I have to use the browser.
I used this guide for Google.
https://youtu.be/mxvTZ-D6THI

rockitman said:
When I got my P40pro I first followed a guide to get the limited Google services. Then put the Vanced with the Micro G. So it all works ok. But I'm not sure if the Vanced and micro G will work without going through the Google setup first.
As a side note even after getting the Google going NatWest banking still won't login with the app so I have to use the browser.
I used this guide for Google.
https://youtu.be/mxvTZ-D6THI
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I had same problem with NatWest I have done the icebox method and newest work and Google duo

On the play store I kept hassling NatWest in the review section about p40pro not working, it was a slog but the upshot is I've had a reply saying they are aware newer Huawei models aren't working with the app and they are working with Huawei to try and fix the problem.
I think it might be useful if more NatWest users also comment on the play store review area if your able, even with your old device so it puts more pressure on them to come up with a fix. I would have posted the screen shot but I don't know how on this site.

Google is not android, GMS Core App alternatives, Some suggestions please add :)

So having had the p40 pro and seen threads all over XDA about what are the alternatives i thought id share what i've found.
So for gmail, i've used the email app preinstalled (which does the same job)
google maps, I saw a post about here we go maps, so i've used that and it does exactly the same thing, i guess as the roads dont change and to be honest i found the speedometer element on it to be more accurate as I used my wifes s10 (as i got no other cellular GMS device) to compare GMS maps vs HMS maps and using the digital speedo in the car, so that was quite interesting.
google docs, I'm simply using what I've always used which is Microsoft office and for me I find it easier to use i guess its because its what I've always used.
Youtube, well for this i just added it as a short cut to my home screen, Even though its not an app i really use to be fair unless im on a tablet.
Playstore, Ive adjusted to appgallery and the petal search app which compliments it really well, yes you can use apkpure & aptoid etc however im just sticking to that.
I mean the misconception that android is google is crazy, I stepped away from the chains of IOS sometime ago for the reason I wanted freedom of apks, RIP showbox.
However if you've found alternatives to other google apps it could be handy, this is from what i use but for the time being ive not needed the use of any other apps as im still on lockdown in Wales.
let me know
Scott

Unfortunately lots of apps require google services. Some banking apps, some browser apps, etc. The problem is not limited to just chrome, maps, drive, youtube, etc. It is far broader and the user wouldn't know if he might have a problem unless he tried all apps that he needs without google services in order to find out which ones don't work.
From my point of view Microsoft has lots of google apps alternatives - onedrive, onenote, etc. Also YouTube which is critical for a lot of users can be used normally by installing YouTube Vanced.
I hope that some good and easy methods of installing google services show up or the Huawei ban is lifted.

There already many of these threads. .. bit hard for people to use when everything is just buried in hundreds of posts.

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
So having had the p40 pro and seen threads all over XDA about what are the alternatives i thought id share what i've found.
So for gmail, i've used the email app preinstalled (which does the same job)
google maps, I saw a post about here we go maps, so i've used that and it does exactly the same thing, i guess as the roads dont change and to be honest i found the speedometer element on it to be more accurate as I used my wifes s10 (as i got no other cellular GMS device) to compare GMS maps vs HMS maps and using the digital speedo in the car, so that was quite interesting.
google docs, I'm simply using what I've always used which is Microsoft office and for me I find it easier to use i guess its because its what I've always used.
Youtube, well for this i just added it as a short cut to my home screen, Even though its not an app i really use to be fair unless im on a tablet.
Playstore, Ive adjusted to appgallery and the petal search app which compliments it really well, yes you can use apkpure & aptoid etc however im just sticking to that.
I mean the misconception that android is google is crazy, I stepped away from the chains of IOS sometime ago for the reason I wanted freedom of apks, RIP showbox.
However if you've found alternatives to other google apps it could be handy, this is from what i use but for the time being ive not needed the use of any other apps as im still on lockdown in Wales.
let me know
Scott
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You are right, and for banking apps you can simply add the website to homescreen, also google maps is a PWA and runs great as a desktop shortcut! I did a lot of this with windows phone and had no issues whatsoever, google is not the be all and end all of mobile phones!

xchatter said:
Unfortunately lots of apps require google services. Some banking apps, some browser apps, etc. The problem is not limited to just chrome, maps, drive, youtube, etc. It is far broader and the user wouldn't know if he might have a problem unless he tried all apps that he needs without google services in order to find out which ones don't work.
From my point of view Microsoft has lots of google apps alternatives - onedrive, onenote, etc. Also YouTube which is critical for a lot of users can be used normally by installing YouTube Vanced.
I hope that some good and easy methods of installing google services show up or the Huawei ban is lifted.
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Onedrive is good or Yandex.disk

ive got a p40 pro and I use petal search ive found the odd one that tells me I need GMS then I press ok and it carries on as normal, happens with my playsration messages app but once I hit the ok button im good

linux2525 said:
There already many of these threads. .. bit hard for people to use when everything is just buried in hundreds of posts.
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I would guess as its a bit of a hot topic considering the change from GMS to HMS? and with consumers like us trying to either learn or teach there will always be a tonne of posts?

Wakawaka89 said:
ive got a p40 pro and I use petal search ive found the odd one that tells me I need GMS then I press ok and it carries on as normal, happens with my playsration messages app but once I hit the ok button im good
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Yeah ive found the same on certain apps, I had it when I phone cloned the tube app across but yeah works a treat , I guess its a download / transfer it across and see kinda thing.

machina77 said:
You are right, and for banking apps you can simply add the website to homescreen, also google maps is a PWA and runs great as a desktop shortcut! I did a lot of this with windows phone and had no issues whatsoever, google is not the be all and end all of mobile phones!
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Exactly, I've taken the mindset of 'there is always a way' and turns out 99% of the time there is!

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I would guess as its a bit of a hot topic considering the change from GMS to HMS? and with consumers like us trying to either learn or teach there will always be a tonne of posts?
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Some sort of structured spreadsheet.. Maybe Wikipedia lol
But yea.. Probably a bit hard to coordinate and Huawei should really develop

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
So having had the p40 pro and seen threads all over XDA about what are the alternatives i thought id share what i've found.
So for gmail, i've used the email app preinstalled (which does the same job)
google maps, I saw a post about here we go maps, so i've used that and it does exactly the same thing, i guess as the roads dont change and to be honest i found the speedometer element on it to be more accurate as I used my wifes s10 (as i got no other cellular GMS device) to compare GMS maps vs HMS maps and using the digital speedo in the car, so that was quite interesting.
google docs, I'm simply using what I've always used which is Microsoft office and for me I find it easier to use i guess its because its what I've always used.
Youtube, well for this i just added it as a short cut to my home screen, Even though its not an app i really use to be fair unless im on a tablet.
Playstore, Ive adjusted to appgallery and the petal search app which compliments it really well, yes you can use apkpure & aptoid etc however im just sticking to that.
I mean the misconception that android is google is crazy, I stepped away from the chains of IOS sometime ago for the reason I wanted freedom of apks, RIP showbox.
However if you've found alternatives to other google apps it could be handy, this is from what i use but for the time being ive not needed the use of any other apps as im still on lockdown in Wales.
let me know
Scott
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I've found to youtube. And I have my account connected there. So everything is synched. My p40 pro is without GMS. I only have youtube. And the best part is that it is premium and for free .
It is called vanced youtube....
I've come across it I believe on some XDA forum....

You lucky guys. I must go with gms on My p40 pro for now. Only because of one App, and thats My banking App from N26. In webpage i can't make money Transfers. The App is needed to Do this. I wrote to the N26 Support if they had Plans to offer the App in the App gallery, but they had Till now no Plans to Do that.
If anyone had a solution for this, i'm open for all.

Aurora store - an open source Google Play app that doesn't need GMS.
Microsoft Office - its far more usable than Google Docs
One Drive - works well especially if you have an office 365 subscription and it'll backup photos
There are a bunch of youtube apps on XDA that adblock and run in the background too....

Life before Google & After ;)

Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers

one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact

Barclays Banking - I'm happy enough to use it via the browser for the time being, as it's an app I only use a few times a month but would be nice to see added!
YouTube via Browser just isn't a full time solution for me - discovering Vanced has been a saviour (it's now on my P30 Pro too)
Google Drive and Photos was one that I didn't think I used at all, but is one of those things upon using a HMS device you realise you do! (Drive for WhatsApp backup and Photos was a nice background back up I never thought about) - I have since swapped over to Huawei's cloud making use of the 50GB free for 1 year offer and I've been pleasantly surprised at how well made and easy it is to use - not something that can always be said about their in-house solutions if we're being honest.
Google Maps was never used as navigation for me but more for visualising routes via a browser search - which it still works via - Have always used Waze or in car Sat Nav.
Never been interested in NFC payments and assistants, but will be interest to give them a go once Celia? and Huawei Pay improve/go live!

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers
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Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.

For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.

dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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haha, love your comment. I now a few people who are just using the online banking until its working.

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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Tell me about it Barclays needs to join the party soon for the exact same reason
how are you chrome casting? When I hit the screen share button on YTVR nothing seems to happen?

ChrisHtube said:
Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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Petal Search Find Apps is great hands down, I have used Bolt and it is great to have this app on board so early as Bolt is going to be the next best thing for Uber like services also having the big branded apps on board is great.
I think (probably is happening in the background) HMS should be bringing in app purchases, mapping system in line app usage for apps like Pokémon Go / Uber etc
It would also be great to see App Gallery on app commercials like how it says available on Google Play Store, Apple Store etc this gets the brand out in to the public domain a lot more.

dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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Oh well, Neros is better anyway I'm still old school with the stamp cards but makes me wonder if theirs will work or not too!

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone
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I have tried the only issue is that i have not got a physical card. always been digital.

ChrisHtube said:
Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!
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Still waiting for Deliveroo in this town :laugh:

I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.

skyisblue79 said:
I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.
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Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>

Tech_Droid1 said:
Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>
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No I will still keep GMS as play store is still working and I'm able to access my paid apps. Guess I will live with this error till some better fix comes up.

Question Got my new P50 Pro, can I make it usable or should I sell it?

Hello guys!
Sorry if someone already posted this but I can't find any relevant information that could help me. Been looking through all this info, but nothing that can help me achieve what I want...
Just got myself a new P50 Pro. I unboxed the phone and I find it really amazing in terms of camera (OMG) and OS speed. Next step I tried installing something to make the phone close to something that's running Google Services.
I've heard of GSpace... Ok, I've installed it, but never been more dissapointed in my entire life.
It seems that the apps are somehow locked inside the GSpace app (like a virtual machine in Windows), so the apps take a while to load, but the worst thing possible is that the apps have ads inside them.
I mean try to open Facebook, Chrome or something and an ad pops right in your face.
I've done a full format of the phone right away, and now I'm asking you guys for a solution to bring Google Services somehow more natural to it's original state...
Can I do this, or can I sell the phone, cause I'm 100% sure, I can't live with crap, like GSpace nor without Google Services...
Thanks in advance!

Anyone?

Huawei mate 40 pro here.
It has taken a while and some testing. I can honestly say that it is worth the effort.
Look around for microG workaround to get notifications working.
Gspace is working better without microG, and it does not cost that much to pay to lose the ads. I have already done that. Gspace can also send shortcuts to the homepage of your launcher.
You have bought a special phone, amazing hardware but a bit crippled without GMS.
Try firefox instead of chrome, try installing apps via appgallery, and something like aurora or other apk store for everything else.
Outlook or other mail client also works just fine.
I have got around 140 apps, it is doable

So, without GSpace, nothing else?

@khrystyan27, many Google apps are running without problems even without GMS.
Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, those are running fine without GMS.
I use, on Mate40 pro, alot of apps without any problem (in addition to those listed) ... Telegram, Signal, Yahoo mail, Google translate, etc ...
As an alternative to YouTube, I use YouTube vanced (with the possibility of logging in).
Even Maps are running fine, without loging options, offcourse. If I want to connect to Maps, I use it into Ourplay (I tried GSpace too, I didn't like it).
Even the banking applications are starting to work, more and more, for NFC payment.
I use PayPal or Curve without any inconvenient, together with local banking applications.
So, before to use those apps you need into the virtual machines like VMOS, GSpace or Ourplay (that's what these applications are, virtual machines), try to use them normally.

Shymmy said:
@khrystyan27, many Google apps are running without problems even without GMS.
Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, those are running fine without GMS.
I use, on Mate40 pro, alot of apps without any problem (in addition to those listed) ... Telegram, Signal, Yahoo mail, Google translate, etc ...
As an alternative to YouTube, I use YouTube vanced (with the possibility of logging in).
Even Maps are running fine, without loging options, offcourse. If I want to connect to Maps, I use it into Ourplay (I tried GSpace too, I didn't like it).
Even the banking applications are starting to work, more and more, for NFC payment.
I use PayPal or Curve without any inconvenient, together with local banking applications.
So, before to use those apps you need into the virtual machines like VMOS, GSpace or Ourplay (that's what these applications are, virtual machines), try to use them normally.
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I understand what you're saying, but any method of bringing back G Services without those virtual machine hacks?
Like anything other than this...

For global models, not yet.

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Sent it back to the seller.

try to enjoy it, it´s a very good phone, i have it and i can say that i use the phone more than 95% similar to a phone with google services... yes, installing apk is not for everybody but it's worth it

Already sold it, too late...

khrystyan27 said:
Already sold it, too late...
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You did the right thing. This phone is crap without Google services.
There are too many apps that uses background services. Try strava, garmin connect, wolt... Your best choice is to stay away from this phone. I switched back to my old P30 PRO. At least it is working.

iskalec1 said:
You did the right thing. This phone is crap without Google services.
There are too many apps that uses background services. Try strava, garmin connect, wolt... Your best choice is to stay away from this phone. I switched back to my old P30 PRO. At least it is working.
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Strava works fine in gspace. Maybe you need to step back and realise that you've allowed yourself to become locked in to Google like an iPhone user is locked in to Apple.

carbonize said:
Strava works fine in gspace. Maybe you need to step back and realise that you've allowed yourself to become locked in to Google like an iPhone user is locked in to Apple.
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Maybe I should step back. But where to? Honestly Gspace is crap. I am locked to google with a lot of apps - no doubt about it (no games at all). Guess what. It works. Apple users do not complain at all.
Right now I have this phone at home unused with a map named NOT WORKING of some 20-30 apps (bank, parking, navigation, measuring tools and specific work apps). And I cant sell the phone because everybody now know the problem. It is CRAP without GMS. You can step back if you want. I can't.
I am simply waiting for someone to put on Harmony OS on international version, make it usable and sell the damn thing ASAP!

I keep hearing about navigation apps that don't work ...
Which are those ??
Is everyone really stuck on Android Auto or on Maps with login ?? Otherwise, Maps works perfectly without logging in ...
Waze, Petal maps, Here we go and many others are working fine too.
Even in Romania we have more and more functional banking applications on phones without GMS ...
Curve payments can be used for NFC payments, if the personal application used is not yet available in the App gallery.

iskalec1 said:
Maybe I should step back. But where to? Honestly Gspace is crap. I am locked to google with a lot of apps - no doubt about it (no games at all). Guess what. It works. Apple users do not complain at all.
Right now I have this phone at home unused with a map named NOT WORKING of some 20-30 apps (bank, parking, navigation, measuring tools and specific work apps). And I cant sell the phone because everybody now know the problem. It is CRAP without GMS. You can step back if you want. I can't.
I am simply waiting for someone to put on Harmony OS on international version, make it usable and sell the damn thing ASAP!
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And how exactly does Harmony make it more useful?

carbonize said:
And how exactly does Harmony make it more useful?
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This one did it some 9 months ago. Nowadays are easier methods.

schumifer said:
Huawei mate 40 pro here.
It has taken a while and some testing. I can honestly say that it is worth the effort.
Look around for microG workaround to get notifications working.
Gspace is working better without microG, and it does not cost that much to pay to lose the ads. I have already done that. Gspace can also send shortcuts to the homepage of your launcher.
You have bought a special phone, amazing hardware but a bit crippled without GMS.
Try firefox instead of chrome, try installing apps via appgallery, and something like aurora or other apk store for everything else.
Outlook or other mail client also works just fine.
I have got around 140 apps, it is doable
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Hi,
Do you have notifications on outlook? I had the P40 Pro so i can easily live withou GMS but outlook notifications are killing me... Just got the P50 Pro and i already tried 6 or 7 mail clients trying to sort this out...
Thank you for your help!

HVentura78 said:
Hi,
Do you have notifications on outlook? I had the P40 Pro so i can easily live withou GMS but outlook notifications are killing me... Just got the P50 Pro and i already tried 6 or 7 mail clients trying to sort this out...
Thank you for your help!
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Of course, with the help of microG.

schumifer said:
Of course, with the help of microG.
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I always get issues trying to connect my google account with MicroG, probably doing something wrong.

HVentura78 said:
Hi,
Do you have notifications on outlook? I had the P40 Pro so i can easily live withou GMS but outlook notifications are killing me... Just got the P50 Pro and i already tried 6 or 7 mail clients trying to sort this out...
Thank you for your help!
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Hello, i use spark and mymail and i get real time notifications without problems ( yahoo and outlook), try it