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Hi everyone.
I'm writing this for everyone having problems with notification from some apps.
Right now I not receive notification from:
1. Twitter - not at all. And I can't go into setting for Push notifications
2. Gmail - that's funny. I receive one notification a day around 8-9PM.
3. Youtube - no notifications
4. LinkedIn - no notfications
And some specific apps for my country like: Inpost and OLX.
Share what's your experience with that. Maybe we will find solution.
L0tnik said:
Hi everyone.
I'm writing this for everyone having problems with notification from some apps.
Right now I not receive notification from:
1. Twitter - not at all. And I can't go into setting for Push notifications
2. Gmail - that's funny. I receive one notification a day around 8-9PM.
3. Youtube - no notifications
4. LinkedIn - no notfications
And some specific apps for my country like: Inpost and OLX.
Share what's your experience with that. Maybe we will find solution.
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I am the same. Only WhatsApp gets notifications. All others don't work
I installed GMS just out of curiosity and had the same issue. It seems like one of the Core functionalities of GMS is still incompatible/not working (Firebase). You'd expect WhatsApp to always work as it uses a separate Push service protocol.
Yeah, Gmail definitely does not work. =/
I have a hunch this is all tied to using such an old version of google account manager. (v4 is only version that still works)
This problem is because you are not registered in push notification by gms. Youbhave to choose GMS or push notification for this moment.
Seems like some have got it working, see here: https://mightygadget.co.uk/how-to-install-google-play-storeon-the-huawei-p40-pro-without-notification-errors/
el viento said:
Seems like some have got it working, see here:
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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Nice work it was a good guide so thanks . GMS currently running on my P40 pro at the moment no major issues. I did get an error this morning regarding google account services but its gone away and not come back. I also got the autocomplete working on apps just by changing the autofill settings to google and all seems to be working fine (most probably already know this but it may be helpful to some). Only issue i have run into is Netflix is not working with the latest Software update (incompatible device) but I'm sure they will update it soon.
MightyGadget said:
I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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Thank you.
Will it work from a memory card or a usb stick is mandatory ?
Borh77 said:
Thank you.
Will it work from a memory card or a usb stick is mandatory ?
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I have only done it via USB, but it shouldn't make any difference at all, as long as you get LZ Play and the APKs on the phone it should work fine.
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el viento said:
Nice work it was a good guide so thanks . GMS currently running on my P40 pro at the moment no major issues. I did get an error this morning regarding google account services but its gone away and not come back. I also got the autocomplete working on apps just by changing the autofill settings to google and all seems to be working fine (most probably already know this but it may be helpful to some). Only issue i have run into is Netflix is not working with the latest Software update (incompatible device) but I'm sure they will update it soon.
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Play store didn't have Netflix for me, I had to install that via APK Pure, but it works fine for me from there, it will only work in SD though.
I have had the occasional random notification that google can't log in my account, but then it carries on working as normal.
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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Hey mate, thank you for your work. Just a quick question, do you think Huawei can/will patch these methods in the future? I know they don't allow bootloader unlocking, but they could at least continue to allow people to sideload GMS on their phones. I already ordered a P40 Pro though so it's kinda too late now, but I'm just wondering what people think.
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Hey mate, thank you for your work. Just a quick question, do you think Huawei can/will patch these methods in the future? I know they don't allow bootloader unlocking, but they could at least continue to allow people to sideload GMS on their phones. I already ordered a P40 Pro though so it's kinda too late now, but I'm just wondering what people think.
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Good question, but there is no way of knowing for sure. I am sure it is possible this method may stop working in the future, but I doubt Huawei would be the ones to prevent it. The general consensus is that neither Huawei or Google wants to be in this situation, Google obviously earns a lot of money from people using their services and Huawei is likely losing a lot of users by not having Google on their phones. The issue will be if Google has political pressure applied to them to stop these workarounds. I don't imagine it is that hard to blacklist devices, or maybe anything running a specific chipset.
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I wrote that. It was to disable the notification nags you get when you get GMS working - it is not in relation to receiving notifications from apps. I will look into this today though.
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I hope you get this figured out!! Thank you for all you do loving my p40 pro minus certain apps not getting notifications
el viento said:
Nice work it was a good guide so thanks . GMS currently running on my P40 pro at the moment no major issues. I did get an error this morning regarding google account services but its gone away and not come back. I also got the autocomplete working on apps just by changing the autofill settings to google and all seems to be working fine (most probably already know this but it may be helpful to some). Only issue i have run into is Netflix is not working with the latest Software update (incompatible device) but I'm sure they will update it soon.
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Just dowlonad netflix version 4.16.1 and all will be great
can anybody check, protonmail app and gmail app not receiving notifications, xda and reddit as well
MightyGadget said:
Good question, but there is no way of knowing for sure. I am sure it is possible this method may stop working in the future, but I doubt Huawei would be the ones to prevent it. The general consensus is that neither Huawei or Google wants to be in this situation, Google obviously earns a lot of money from people using their services and Huawei is likely losing a lot of users by not having Google on their phones. The issue will be if Google has political pressure applied to them to stop these workarounds. I don't imagine it is that hard to blacklist devices, or maybe anything running a specific chipset.
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Well let's hope they keep it working like this indeed .
Another question @MightyGadget, what do you think of the security implications using this method, considering the modded apps that are being used etc.? Is it safe to use as a daily driver with all kinds of personal stuff on it?
MajestyZ said:
Well let's hope they keep it working like this indeed .
Another question @MightyGadget, what do you think of the security implications using this method, considering the modded apps that are being used etc.? Is it safe to use as a daily driver with all kinds of personal stuff on it?
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With all due respect, what can happen? Who cares about what you and I do on our phones?
leoking3 said:
With all due respect, what can happen? Who cares about what you and I do on our phones?
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Well, aside from installing some apps that might be stealing your credit card details and username/passwords for other apps there is nothing else really ...
I was too tempted to buy the P40 pro after previously owning the P30 pro, but the lack of google services made me change my mind. It's a brilliant phone, sadly.
Al3xxxinho said:
Well, aside from installing some apps that might be stealing your credit card details and username/passwords for other apps there is nothing else really ...
I was too tempted to buy the P40 pro after previously owning the P30 pro, but the lack of google services made me change my mind. It's a brilliant phone, sadly.
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if you really thinking about seucirty or privacy you wont be using google at all that just doesnt mix. im sure google knows more about you than your parents at the moment.
2nd are you not using 2fa for your bank or your accounts? im sure even somebody tries to login your account with 2fa enabled they have like 0.1% they can access it and make payments for you.
Well, I'm not refering to google, because yes, they know more about me than myself, but when you install the chinese google play services you really don't know what else you are installing. A keylogger would be a fine alternative to steal all your data ... Just a thought.
Hello everyone,
So i have been posting about banking apps how to get them and other apps. I have noticed a lot of people side loading GMS or trying to and was wondering why?
I don't have GMS on my device, I'm happily using HMS as the two are not built to run together. I have all my banking apps, social media, games ect on HMS via Phone clone, App Gallery and Petal search. I still use my Gmail via the Huawei email apps no problems.
Would love everyone's feedback as to why the need for GMS?
I have been temped to load it on myself. The issue for me would be my ease of use with all the apps under one store and not having to rely on your banking to come across from previous phone. Also with the GMS again it is the ease of use knowing I can log on my laptop after and it is synced over, Youtube is a big thing for many people aswell. I used Vanced, which is good but i can't log in and subscribe to channels i am a fan of also it doesn't hold the place in the video you are watching if you need to close the app for various reasons.
I have also considered a side load but tbh there's nothing on gms I that I don't already have on my p3
40 Pro.
When I cross refrenced the Google Services I actually only ever used Photos, Maps and YouTube
For me having these replacements from the get go on my Huawei P40 Pro was a easy transition - Huawei Cloud, Here We Go and YVLR
HMS is bigger and better than I thought, Android OS has helped massively.
ChrisHtube said:
Hello everyone,
So i have been posting about banking apps how to get them and other apps. I have noticed a lot of people side loading GMS or trying to and was wondering why?
I don't have GMS on my device, I'm happily using HMS as the two are not built to run together. I have all my banking apps, social media, games ect on HMS via Phone clone, App Gallery and Petal search. I still use my Gmail via the Huawei email apps no problems.
Would love everyone's feedback as to why the need for GMS?
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YouTube and PlayStore and Barclays are the only sticking points and reasons why I'd want it to be honest!
ChrisHtube said:
Hello everyone,
So i have been posting about banking apps how to get them and other apps. I have noticed a lot of people side loading GMS or trying to and was wondering why?
I don't have GMS on my device, I'm happily using HMS as the two are not built to run together. I have all my banking apps, social media, games ect on HMS via Phone clone, App Gallery and Petal search. I still use my Gmail via the Huawei email apps no problems.
Would love everyone's feedback as to why the need for GMS?
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I am perfectly happy living within Huawei's ecosystem
So Barclays is a go to for me and to have it on my P40 Pro would be amazing I am currently using the weblink saved to device but find myself using Barclays official app on my Huawei M5, I hope Barclays can devolp an app for HMS this side of the year.
GMS is no big requirement for myself I looked at the GMS folder and only every use Photos, Maps and YT all of these have a workaround on HMS, goodbye GMS hello HMS.
dw9075n said:
I have been temped to load it on myself. The issue for me would be my ease of use with all the apps under one store and not having to rely on your banking to come across from previous phone. Also with the GMS again it is the ease of use knowing I can log on my laptop after and it is synced over, Youtube is a big thing for many people aswell. I used Vanced, which is good but i can't log in and subscribe to channels i am a fan of also it doesn't hold the place in the video you are watching if you need to close the app for various reasons.
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Hi, so i would say best approach for a lot of this is,
1 Download petal search, this gives you access to many app stores via one application. Making life easy.
2 Use Huawei ID which you can set up in settings, this allows you to do the same thing you can access your device from a laptop and pull over all the info from your phone which is cool.
3 The banking app i wouldn't say is a massive thing in regards to using Phone Clone, most people will use this app when setting up there new phone to pull your data over. So its not adding any more steps in for set up.
4 I personally just use the browser for YouTube and save it as a shortcut to my home screen. You can log in and when you switch window it saves your place on the video, so if you need to send a text ect this is perfect.
I hope this helps
Tech_Droid1 said:
So Barclays is a go to for me and to have it on my P40 Pro would be amazing I am currently using the weblink saved to device but find myself using Barclays official app on my Huawei M5, I hope Barclays can devolp an app for HMS this side of the year.
GMS is no big requirement for myself I looked at the GMS folder and only every use Photos, Maps and YT all of these have a workaround on HMS, goodbye GMS hello HMS.[/QUOTE
This big thing i think people are missing is, people swap from IOS to Android every day. They swap from one system to another one, now there's a third option. And if you have seen IOS 14 they are looking to adopt 3rd party apps which is what HMS already offers.
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ChrisHtube said:
Hi, so i would say best approach for a lot of this is,
1 Download petal search, this gives you access to many app stores via one application. Making life easy.
2 Use Huawei ID which you can set up in settings, this allows you to do the same thing you can access your device from a laptop and pull over all the info from your phone which is cool.
3 The banking app i wouldn't say is a massive thing in regards to using Phone Clone, most people will use this app when setting up there new phone to pull your data over. So its not adding any more steps in for set up.
4 I personally just use the browser for YouTube and save it as a shortcut to my home screen. You can log in and when you switch window it saves your place on the video, so if you need to send a text ect this is perfect.
I hope this helps
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Yeah this is pretty helpful thanks. Just the ease of a Youtube app that i can login on.
Tech_Droid1 said:
When I cross refrenced the Google Services I actually only ever used Photos, Maps and YouTube
For me having these replacements from the get go on my Huawei P40 Pro was a easy transition - Huawei Cloud, Here We Go and YVLR
HMS is bigger and better than I thought, Android OS has helped massively.
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Huawei have done a good job at making the transition easier for user coming from GMS Huawei or other phones like IOS or Android ect. There are easy work arounds for everything and if you love having complete control HMS is 100% what you want.
dw9075n said:
Yeah this is pretty helpful thanks. Just the ease of a Youtube app that i can login on.
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handy indeed, thank you
JaiHamilton88 said:
handy indeed, thank you
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Browser or Youtube Vanced are good options.
I have GMS installed for a couple of minor local apps but the majority works fine with HMS give it a bit and i will remove GMS.
My only gripe for now would be Android Auto which i use daily.
Help
I have a mate 20 pro I am using outlook and my main apps are Twitter Instagram YouTube what's app and telegram I am not interested in Google maps there are better alternatives and i store my photos in cloud Huawei . If I use the phone bare HMS am I going to have notification issues ? I have no issue using phone clone petal search and apkpure or even Amazon you think I should upgrade I'm on the UK can you get YouTube Vanced to get notifications . My bank is Monzo I heard the app works I understand Pay won't work not that bothered if Monzo works
Do I upgrade from my mate 20 pro
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Tech_Droid1 said:
So Barclays is a go to for me and to have it on my P40 Pro would be amazing I am currently using the weblink saved to device but find myself using Barclays official app on my Huawei M5, I hope Barclays can devolp an app for HMS this side of the year.
GMS is no big requirement for myself I looked at the GMS folder and only every use Photos, Maps and YT all of these have a workaround on HMS, goodbye GMS hello HMS.[/QUOTE
This big thing i think people are missing is, people swap from IOS to Android every day. They swap from one system to another one, now there's a third option. And if you have seen IOS 14 they are looking to adopt 3rd party apps which is what HMS already offers.
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To think Huawei has been through leaps and bounds and now with the Trump tantrum its only proved how strong Huawei are and to think Huawei have started up HMS with Android in a very strong position unlike most quote Nokia / Microsoft / Blackberry.
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Mafiatounes said:
Browser or Youtube Vanced are good options.
I have GMS installed for a couple of minor local apps but the majority works fine with HMS give it a bit and i will remove GMS.
My only gripe for now would be Android Auto which i use daily.
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When i have used auto in the passed i have found it very inconsistent. Found waze is the best for maps.
Ive tried a sideloaded mate30 pro and initially I thought it was a wow moment, but after a couple of weeks I realised I wasn't getting the best out of my device especially as it hugely affected the battery performance, and since giving that to my wife and sharking her upgrade to the p40 pro I can say I prefer the HMS device. Shes reset the phone and stripped out GMS or shall i say I did lol and other than the Barclays app we are sorted. I mean utilising phone clone/app gallery/ petal search im completely set up. I was ever so worried about the function of not being able to cast to my chromecast however on my smart tv downstairs I can screen share using the wireless projection function. SO life continues and my device is awesome
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When i have used auto in the passed i have found it very inconsistent. Found waze is the best for maps.
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Well it depends i dont have issues now with my P40 P but i did with my S20U. Also firmware of the car and a good cable is important. For now it is stable.
TBH it might have just been the car that was the issue. Always use the cable that is provided with the device.
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TBH it might have just been the car that was the issue. Always use the cable that is provided with the device.
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What car do you drive? I have an Audi atm and have just had zero luck getting it to work either on older GMS devices. I'll continue to angle my phone in the cup holder.... I heard rumours of something called HiCar coming later down the line? :cyclops:
Hello everyone,
I'm using P40 Pro. I installed GMS before 3 weeks, it's working good for me. I don't get any GMS error notifications I did software update it's still working.
But I have problems with apps notifications, I don't get notifications for like:
-Twitter
-LinkedIn
-Workplace
-Spark mail
-Other apps
Battery opt. it's not a problem, I think it's a main problem with GMS.
I would like to know if there is anyway to get all notifications working normally? I don't want to use AuroraStore or freeze my GMS.
Or it's better to get back on stock HMS and use ACMarket, Apptoide, etc. to get my notifications working 100%?
Thank you.
mark.brune said:
Or it's better to get back on stock HMS and use ACMarket, Apptoide, etc. to get my notifications working 100%?
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Notifications are broken for many apps with HMS-naked install .. so it is far from 100%.
I am using HMS+microG and it fixes notifications with many apps ... but not all unfortunately ... maybe 60%
1. HMS-naked (broken notifications)
2. HMS+microG (notification fix – generally ok)
3. HMS+GMS (for google apps and broken notifications)
4. HMS+GMS+icebox (for google apps and notifications)
linux2525 said:
Notifications are broken for many apps with HMS-naked install .. so it is far from 100%.
I am using HMS+microG and it fixes notifications with many apps ... but not all unfortunately ... maybe 60%
1. HMS-naked (broken notifications)
2. HMS+microG (notification fix – generally ok)
3. HMS+GMS (for google apps and broken notifications)
4. HMS+GMS+icebox (for google apps and notifications)
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I started to use AuroraStore with frozen GSF.. After that everything started to work perfectly. I updated my GMS over AuroraStore, installed Google Duo.. All notifications started to work. So happy. :laugh::victory:
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I started to use AuroraStore with frozen GSF.. After that everything started to work perfectly. I updated my GMS over AuroraStore, installed Google Duo.. All notifications started to work. So happy. :laugh::victory:
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Kindly, can you write all steps for this solution?
t0nix31 said:
Kindly, can you write all steps for this solution?
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I need this too, i've look into other posts but there is no detailed guide yet.
Could someone provide the guideline please.
t0nix31 said:
Kindly, can you write all steps for this solution?
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zoold3vil said:
I need this too, i've look into other posts but there is no detailed guide yet.
Could someone provide the guideline please.
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Download & install Huawei multi-tool on your computer: https://pro-teammt.ru/en/multi-tool-huawei-honor/
Connect your Huawei to your PC and open the multi tool.
Go to the "Modifications" tab
In "Disabling/enabling applications" just disable com.google.android.gsf
And that's it.
I am starting to lose the love for my P40 Pro ...
a) microG - almost perfect except notifications with Skype
b) GMS+icebox - I cannot add my gmail account into outlook.
Might pickup an S20 Ultra 5G on the way home.
linux2525 said:
I am starting to lose the love for my P40 Pro ...
a) microG - almost perfect except notifications with Skype
b) GMS+icebox - I cannot add my gmail account into outlook.
Might pickup an S20 Ultra 5G on the way home.
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Why S20 Ultra 5G? That thing has so many issues with exynos and camera autofocus.
I got my Gmail working fine on my Outlook.
I'm a bit confused why some people get different results from GMS HMS + icebox
I'm pretty happy with the 2 setups, the only annoying thing is when I need to update my apps on aurora store it's not automatic. I have to grant install one by one ?
jericho246 said:
Download & install Huawei multi-tool on your computer: https://pro-teammt.ru/en/multi-tool-huawei-honor/
Connect your Huawei to your PC and open the multi tool.
Go to the "Modifications" tab
In "Disabling/enabling applications" just disable com.google.android.gsf
And that's it.
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if i do that playstore stop working... Gmail still doesnt work
any tips?
n_jalves said:
if i do that playstore stop working... Gmail still doesnt work
any tips?
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gmail isn't gonna work so use "Outlook" app or something else and add your gmail account there. Works great for me.
Playstore isn't gonna work if you freeze Google services Framework. Obviously. You gonna have to use Aurora Store or Apk Pure. The point of this operation (freezing GSF) is to get notifications working. I had problems with notifications when having BOTH Huawei Mobile Services AND GSF.
Android auto works?
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gmail isn't gonna work so use "Outlook" app or something else and add your gmail account there. Works great for me.
Playstore isn't gonna work if you freeze Google services Framework. Obviously. You gonna have to use Aurora Store or Apk Pure. The point of this operation (freezing GSF) is to get notifications working. I had problems with notifications when having BOTH Huawei Mobile Services AND GSF.
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Too bad, i'd rather used Playstore due to purchases that i made using it. I would rather not having notification to avoid the hassle with in-app purchase issue
If you freeze gsf with MT8 and unfreeze it, are there any problems. I tried something like that, I had icebox installed too, and after unfreeze at 6AM in the morning I've got a train of non-stop notification that my device is not certified by google.
Was that a side effect of freezing or just my playing with the services too much?
@sheikgr is right. But I did it slightly different, before unfreezing in icebox i opened Google Play Store - From the left menu i choose Play Protect and I turn off that function at all. Then i did unfreeze. Gmail/Maps, GPS itself.. all works fine.
But if true is what @madmack is claiming, i think its better to keep services freezed and simply to use bluemail/outlook instead of gmail. Because even if gmail is showing notification its always informs much much later than it should
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@sheikgr is right. But I did it slightly different, before unfreezing in icebox i opened Google Play Store - From the left menu i choose Play Protect and I turn off that function at all. Then i did unfreeze. Gmail/Maps, GPS itself.. all works fine.
But if true is what @madmack is claiming, i think its better to keep services freezed and simply to use bluemail/outlook instead of gmail. Because even if gmail is showing notification its always informs much much later than it should
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Hi, I have a problem with some location based app, like Tripadvisor, after unfreezing: in place of the map, I get the message "Play services are updating" and the app can't get position.
If I freeze, some apps ask to enable high precision positiong by google and can't get position as well.
Did you experience these bugs? Thx
Just use the methods on this website ... Use Chrome to translate ... They are well written and reliable ... Factory reset and start fresh with this ..
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-google-installieren-anleitung-neu/
linux2525 said:
Just use the methods on this website ... Use Chrome to translate ... They are well written and reliable ... Factory reset and start fresh with this ..
https://www.huaweiblog.de/news/huawei-google-installieren-anleitung-neu/
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Can you please explain something? As I see in the website , with one method you have playstore, apps etc working but no push notifications; the other one says no gms, appstore, etc but you get notifications. Is there a way to have both without the gms freezing trick?
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Can't have notifications and Google Play store at same time.
Keep frozen.
Google to find aurora appstore APK file and install for your apps and updates
I use outlook mail in exchange mode, and notification work immediately. Calendard and contact sync work like a charme
Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
Barclays Banking - I'm happy enough to use it via the browser for the time being, as it's an app I only use a few times a month but would be nice to see added!
YouTube via Browser just isn't a full time solution for me - discovering Vanced has been a saviour (it's now on my P30 Pro too)
Google Drive and Photos was one that I didn't think I used at all, but is one of those things upon using a HMS device you realise you do! (Drive for WhatsApp backup and Photos was a nice background back up I never thought about) - I have since swapped over to Huawei's cloud making use of the 50GB free for 1 year offer and I've been pleasantly surprised at how well made and easy it is to use - not something that can always be said about their in-house solutions if we're being honest.
Google Maps was never used as navigation for me but more for visualising routes via a browser search - which it still works via - Have always used Waze or in car Sat Nav.
Never been interested in NFC payments and assistants, but will be interest to give them a go once Celia? and Huawei Pay improve/go live!
Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers
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Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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haha, love your comment. I now a few people who are just using the online banking until its working.
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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Tell me about it Barclays needs to join the party soon for the exact same reason
how are you chrome casting? When I hit the screen share button on YTVR nothing seems to happen?
ChrisHtube said:
Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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Petal Search Find Apps is great hands down, I have used Bolt and it is great to have this app on board so early as Bolt is going to be the next best thing for Uber like services also having the big branded apps on board is great.
I think (probably is happening in the background) HMS should be bringing in app purchases, mapping system in line app usage for apps like Pokémon Go / Uber etc
It would also be great to see App Gallery on app commercials like how it says available on Google Play Store, Apple Store etc this gets the brand out in to the public domain a lot more.
dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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Oh well, Neros is better anyway I'm still old school with the stamp cards but makes me wonder if theirs will work or not too!
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone
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I have tried the only issue is that i have not got a physical card. always been digital.
ChrisHtube said:
Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!
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Still waiting for Deliveroo in this town :laugh:
I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.
skyisblue79 said:
I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.
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Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>
Tech_Droid1 said:
Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>
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No I will still keep GMS as play store is still working and I'm able to access my paid apps. Guess I will live with this error till some better fix comes up.
Hello guys!
Sorry if someone already posted this but I can't find any relevant information that could help me. Been looking through all this info, but nothing that can help me achieve what I want...
Just got myself a new P50 Pro. I unboxed the phone and I find it really amazing in terms of camera (OMG) and OS speed. Next step I tried installing something to make the phone close to something that's running Google Services.
I've heard of GSpace... Ok, I've installed it, but never been more dissapointed in my entire life.
It seems that the apps are somehow locked inside the GSpace app (like a virtual machine in Windows), so the apps take a while to load, but the worst thing possible is that the apps have ads inside them.
I mean try to open Facebook, Chrome or something and an ad pops right in your face.
I've done a full format of the phone right away, and now I'm asking you guys for a solution to bring Google Services somehow more natural to it's original state...
Can I do this, or can I sell the phone, cause I'm 100% sure, I can't live with crap, like GSpace nor without Google Services...
Thanks in advance!
Anyone?
Huawei mate 40 pro here.
It has taken a while and some testing. I can honestly say that it is worth the effort.
Look around for microG workaround to get notifications working.
Gspace is working better without microG, and it does not cost that much to pay to lose the ads. I have already done that. Gspace can also send shortcuts to the homepage of your launcher.
You have bought a special phone, amazing hardware but a bit crippled without GMS.
Try firefox instead of chrome, try installing apps via appgallery, and something like aurora or other apk store for everything else.
Outlook or other mail client also works just fine.
I have got around 140 apps, it is doable
So, without GSpace, nothing else?
@khrystyan27, many Google apps are running without problems even without GMS.
Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, those are running fine without GMS.
I use, on Mate40 pro, alot of apps without any problem (in addition to those listed) ... Telegram, Signal, Yahoo mail, Google translate, etc ...
As an alternative to YouTube, I use YouTube vanced (with the possibility of logging in).
Even Maps are running fine, without loging options, offcourse. If I want to connect to Maps, I use it into Ourplay (I tried GSpace too, I didn't like it).
Even the banking applications are starting to work, more and more, for NFC payment.
I use PayPal or Curve without any inconvenient, together with local banking applications.
So, before to use those apps you need into the virtual machines like VMOS, GSpace or Ourplay (that's what these applications are, virtual machines), try to use them normally.
Shymmy said:
@khrystyan27, many Google apps are running without problems even without GMS.
Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, those are running fine without GMS.
I use, on Mate40 pro, alot of apps without any problem (in addition to those listed) ... Telegram, Signal, Yahoo mail, Google translate, etc ...
As an alternative to YouTube, I use YouTube vanced (with the possibility of logging in).
Even Maps are running fine, without loging options, offcourse. If I want to connect to Maps, I use it into Ourplay (I tried GSpace too, I didn't like it).
Even the banking applications are starting to work, more and more, for NFC payment.
I use PayPal or Curve without any inconvenient, together with local banking applications.
So, before to use those apps you need into the virtual machines like VMOS, GSpace or Ourplay (that's what these applications are, virtual machines), try to use them normally.
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I understand what you're saying, but any method of bringing back G Services without those virtual machine hacks?
Like anything other than this...
For global models, not yet.
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Sent it back to the seller.
try to enjoy it, it´s a very good phone, i have it and i can say that i use the phone more than 95% similar to a phone with google services... yes, installing apk is not for everybody but it's worth it
Already sold it, too late...
khrystyan27 said:
Already sold it, too late...
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You did the right thing. This phone is crap without Google services.
There are too many apps that uses background services. Try strava, garmin connect, wolt... Your best choice is to stay away from this phone. I switched back to my old P30 PRO. At least it is working.
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You did the right thing. This phone is crap without Google services.
There are too many apps that uses background services. Try strava, garmin connect, wolt... Your best choice is to stay away from this phone. I switched back to my old P30 PRO. At least it is working.
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Strava works fine in gspace. Maybe you need to step back and realise that you've allowed yourself to become locked in to Google like an iPhone user is locked in to Apple.
carbonize said:
Strava works fine in gspace. Maybe you need to step back and realise that you've allowed yourself to become locked in to Google like an iPhone user is locked in to Apple.
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Maybe I should step back. But where to? Honestly Gspace is crap. I am locked to google with a lot of apps - no doubt about it (no games at all). Guess what. It works. Apple users do not complain at all.
Right now I have this phone at home unused with a map named NOT WORKING of some 20-30 apps (bank, parking, navigation, measuring tools and specific work apps). And I cant sell the phone because everybody now know the problem. It is CRAP without GMS. You can step back if you want. I can't.
I am simply waiting for someone to put on Harmony OS on international version, make it usable and sell the damn thing ASAP!
I keep hearing about navigation apps that don't work ...
Which are those ??
Is everyone really stuck on Android Auto or on Maps with login ?? Otherwise, Maps works perfectly without logging in ...
Waze, Petal maps, Here we go and many others are working fine too.
Even in Romania we have more and more functional banking applications on phones without GMS ...
Curve payments can be used for NFC payments, if the personal application used is not yet available in the App gallery.
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Maybe I should step back. But where to? Honestly Gspace is crap. I am locked to google with a lot of apps - no doubt about it (no games at all). Guess what. It works. Apple users do not complain at all.
Right now I have this phone at home unused with a map named NOT WORKING of some 20-30 apps (bank, parking, navigation, measuring tools and specific work apps). And I cant sell the phone because everybody now know the problem. It is CRAP without GMS. You can step back if you want. I can't.
I am simply waiting for someone to put on Harmony OS on international version, make it usable and sell the damn thing ASAP!
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And how exactly does Harmony make it more useful?
carbonize said:
And how exactly does Harmony make it more useful?
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This one did it some 9 months ago. Nowadays are easier methods.
schumifer said:
Huawei mate 40 pro here.
It has taken a while and some testing. I can honestly say that it is worth the effort.
Look around for microG workaround to get notifications working.
Gspace is working better without microG, and it does not cost that much to pay to lose the ads. I have already done that. Gspace can also send shortcuts to the homepage of your launcher.
You have bought a special phone, amazing hardware but a bit crippled without GMS.
Try firefox instead of chrome, try installing apps via appgallery, and something like aurora or other apk store for everything else.
Outlook or other mail client also works just fine.
I have got around 140 apps, it is doable
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Hi,
Do you have notifications on outlook? I had the P40 Pro so i can easily live withou GMS but outlook notifications are killing me... Just got the P50 Pro and i already tried 6 or 7 mail clients trying to sort this out...
Thank you for your help!
HVentura78 said:
Hi,
Do you have notifications on outlook? I had the P40 Pro so i can easily live withou GMS but outlook notifications are killing me... Just got the P50 Pro and i already tried 6 or 7 mail clients trying to sort this out...
Thank you for your help!
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Of course, with the help of microG.
schumifer said:
Of course, with the help of microG.
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I always get issues trying to connect my google account with MicroG, probably doing something wrong.
HVentura78 said:
Hi,
Do you have notifications on outlook? I had the P40 Pro so i can easily live withou GMS but outlook notifications are killing me... Just got the P50 Pro and i already tried 6 or 7 mail clients trying to sort this out...
Thank you for your help!
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Hello, i use spark and mymail and i get real time notifications without problems ( yahoo and outlook), try it